Still waiting Vega to come out and decide which card to get for 1440p.
my Hawaii is really going to go for vacation soon .........
AMD Radeon™ Discussion V15, Radeon Software 20.10.1
AMD Radeon™ Discussion V15, Radeon Software 20.10.1
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Apr 22 2017, 12:46 PM
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Still waiting Vega to come out and decide which card to get for 1440p.
my Hawaii is really going to go for vacation soon ......... |
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Apr 23 2017, 10:30 PM
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Apr 24 2017, 05:59 PM
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for AMD gc user, make sure to update first or do it after you update your Window 10 latest update - screen flickering like shit on old driver.
(*flick on desktop = old driver incompatible - update it to 17.4.3 now and normal again) |
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Apr 24 2017, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 22 2017, 12:08 AM) Seems, RX 550 and 560 is the mc of RX5xx series. I donno how the fella always make such long videos, I like my videos short and sweet. But yeah RX 550 and RX 560 should be the main sellers. RX 580 sucks. |
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Apr 24 2017, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 24 2017, 06:28 PM) I donno how the fella always make such long videos, I like my videos short and sweet. Yeah, but at tat time, Just only 1 RX550 review on youtube @@ No other choice =w=But yeah RX 550 and RX 560 should be the main sellers. RX 580 sucks. Long video really make ppl sleep, except the day of wait for vega in streaming, but just get "VEGA is VEGA" .... RX580 is okay lah ~ for more guarantee on max setting gaming 1080p than gtx1060? Its suit for ppl who want get new card or upgrade from old 4-5 gen. Read in reddit before, the thread is about marketing and explain why nvidia use rebrand always, and explain the fact of amd gain < usage becoz of keep push out new technology. Kinda feel sad tat a specialist will last shorter than a buisnessman even its a truth XD Consumer always hope for better technology, but due to consumer always like to be spoon feed, easily mislead by marketing, and the result just as now what we get. This post has been edited by eDwanD: Apr 24 2017, 06:43 PM |
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Apr 24 2017, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 24 2017, 06:42 PM) RX580 is okay lah ~ No it isn't. It just exchange blows here and there so it's not a "more guarantee 1080p gaming" when compared to GTX 1060. for more guarantee on max setting gaming 1080p than gtx1060? Its suit for ppl who want get new card or upgrade from old 4-5 gen. 1. GTX 1070 available for as low as RM 2k while GTX 1060 6GB is around 1.2K range. *RX 580 8GB price varies from around RM 1.3k to 1,5xx* 2. GTX 1060 doesn't even draw 150w power. If it's a Polaris Refresh, it should be better but not worse. Now the power draw to performance ratio is not as good as before. |
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Apr 24 2017, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 24 2017, 06:42 PM) Read in reddit before, the thread is about marketing and explain why nvidia use rebrand always, and explain the fact of amd gain < usage becoz of keep push out new technology. Nvidia actually produces new technology too, that's why the Pascals are doing so well when compared to Maxwell.AMD Polaris is good actually, when it was launched the RX 480 was great but it was short-lived as GTX 1060 came in. AMD introduces technology, like their APU were great stuff but it was really niche, and their pricing sucks. After that the APU and the AMD FX range processor (Bulldozer) were stuck for a really long time. Polaris was good, the Polaris refresh (or refined) isn't exactly refined. Now we'll have to see what they produce for Vega. |
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Apr 24 2017, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 24 2017, 06:28 PM) I donno how the fella always make such long videos, I like my videos short and sweet. got any news for rx 550 and 560 price?But yeah RX 550 and RX 560 should be the main sellers. RX 580 sucks. i not sure wan to sell off my i7-3770 now or wait till vega out only sell out my i7 rig to ryzen 5 1600x full rig |
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Apr 24 2017, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 24 2017, 07:01 PM) Nvidia actually produces new technology too, that's why the Pascals are doing so well when compared to Maxwell. Yup, they does, but not often as much as AMD in past. One new tech occur, means need more budget. AMD Polaris is good actually, when it was launched the RX 480 was great but it was short-lived as GTX 1060 came in. AMD introduces technology, like their APU were great stuff but it was really niche, and their pricing sucks. After that the APU and the AMD FX range processor (Bulldozer) were stuck for a really long time. Polaris was good, the Polaris refresh (or refined) isn't exactly refined. Now we'll have to see what they produce for Vega. AMD push too many new tech before, limited budget on marketing, that result most of consumer choose nvidia than ati, even nvidia is rebrand samething about 3 year?! even that time ati performance is better. If u r a game company ceo, when u develop a game, which gpu u will priority to optimize? sure, is the more famous nvidia, even there's better performance ati. In the time ongoing, margins of market goes to nvidia too much than ati, that cause amd budget is worse and worse. Amd need develop both of gpu and cpu, in past, tricks of inte inl done a impact on amd as well. Bulldozer again is a failure that made by AMD's wrong decision, all these in result, amd need to sell of their own cpu lab. Ryzen is counted as one of big success of AMD, because this time, AMD change their method, not only in move from bulldozer to ryzen , but also invest much in marketing. They success use a above average performance, not only in multi threading, as well in IPC, with a better the price to challange Intel. Facebook founder wont success if without his friend done well in marketing, Microsoft wont success if bill gates fail in marketing. Its true that technology that Nvidia sucess in Pascals, but if u look at the analysis of their marketing, there's a bid different that causes the gap between amd and nvidia, its marketing. QUOTE(silrave @ Apr 24 2017, 10:07 PM) got any news for rx 550 and 560 price? i not sure wan to sell off my i7-3770 now or wait till vega out only sell out my i7 rig to ryzen 5 1600x full rig ![]() Stoled this price from Idealtech =w= I'm bought all part mix new and used early, because i want get my desktop earlier since i'm back to malaysia. Currently, I'm using lappy, and miss out nice deal of used gpu, if i buy a new unit of rx570 4gb RM950 for gaming, nexth month vega may release, its mafan to seel out and buy new one, somemore, my lost due to just used one month, counted as failure.... This my situation @@ just because i'm not urgent use pc lah... less gaming If ur situation, u r kin to use i7 currently and didnt any trouble, u may willing to wait for vega Why not just wait if u not urgent. This post has been edited by eDwanD: Apr 24 2017, 10:40 PM |
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Apr 24 2017, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 24 2017, 10:33 PM) Its true that technology that Nvidia sucess in Pascals, but if u look at the analysis of their marketing, there's a bid different that causes the gap between amd and nvidia, its marketing. You can't market when you don't have new products. AMD didn't have many new revolutionary things. The HD 7xxx series was good but mostly used by miners, then HD 2xx and 3xx were rehash after rehash. Fury line-up was really nice but AMD failed at the pricing part. Polaris was nice but short-lived. Polaris Refresh need not elaborate further la. As for Processor - APU, I really love that tech but pricing sucks and no one really picked it up. It's technology packed but in this aspect, I guess can say they failed at marketing. Nvidia on the other hand also rehashed technology before, I bashed them before too from 8xxx series to 9000 series rehash, then the GT series weren't doing well for some time too. AMD graphics was the better choice until Max well if I'm not mistaken. Maxwell and Pascal were the real game changers for Nvidia. Another thing to note is that Nvidia can focus on GPU alone but AMD actually focusing on CPU and GPU. |
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Apr 25 2017, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 24 2017, 11:26 PM) You can't market when you don't have new products. Agreed. But nvidia success play market with rebranding even new gen gains small performance increase in back year. AMD didn't have many new revolutionary things. The HD 7xxx series was good but mostly used by miners, then HD 2xx and 3xx were rehash after rehash. Fury line-up was really nice but AMD failed at the pricing part. Polaris was nice but short-lived. Polaris Refresh need not elaborate further la. As for Processor - APU, I really love that tech but pricing sucks and no one really picked it up. It's technology packed but in this aspect, I guess can say they failed at marketing. Nvidia on the other hand also rehashed technology before, I bashed them before too from 8xxx series to 9000 series rehash, then the GT series weren't doing well for some time too. AMD graphics was the better choice until Max well if I'm not mistaken. Maxwell and Pascal were the real game changers for Nvidia. Another thing to note is that Nvidia can focus on GPU alone but AMD actually focusing on CPU and GPU. Many of new tech by amd in past not really useful due to not had be optimization use by other field, and nvidia start with marketing play well start with 8xxx era, start from that time, many games with nvidia logo www optimization also done better in nvidia. Pascal really powerful for the moment, polaris is short lived because, nvidia backup with newer tech behind since they got lots of money for develop. Nvidia just as intel, they will use their advantage of market gain their better technology, and can counter any attack by release the newer tech. Intel play the trick of 5% increasement per years with high price these years, becoz amd faildozer too many years XD I hope vega can compete with polaris, but seems a bit hard, no news yet, just a dual polaris gpu @@ feel that amd not confidence to compete well, maybe reach gtx 1080 performance is AMD bottleneck? Added: I'm just rewatch this again properly , its good to explain, can read comment as well, more info in there. This post has been edited by eDwanD: Apr 25 2017, 05:19 AM |
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Apr 25 2017, 03:44 AM
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![]() https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/67ab7...r_amd_facebook/ Newest news : Vega will be ready in this quarter , means we can try it before end of june? =w= This post has been edited by eDwanD: Apr 25 2017, 03:45 AM |
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Apr 25 2017, 07:46 AM
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 25 2017, 03:44 AM) ![]() https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/67ab7...r_amd_facebook/ Newest news : Vega will be ready in this quarter , means we can try it before end of june? =w= |
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Apr 25 2017, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Apr 25 2017, 07:46 AM) It was already known anyway. AMD had already said it before Vega will be released in H1 2017. It's just people are impatient and AMD is giving the silence attitude I saw rumor before is early of May XD if they r same answer as before, it is great that rumor of not release due to scare to nvidia is fake. |
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Apr 26 2017, 11:40 AM
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haha
should wait for vega or volta let them both fight because heard volta by right is next year but they might change to release this year |
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Apr 27 2017, 04:24 PM
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anyone here have flashed the rx470 8gb model to 570?, techpoweup bios repositories only have rx 570 4gb, i need the 8gb bios
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Apr 27 2017, 07:23 PM
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Apr 27 2017, 10:36 PM
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