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prince_mk
post Dec 8 2016, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Dec 8 2016, 05:25 PM)
We discussed this topic before. There are several reasons why US ETF tend to beat actively managed funds:

1. Fees are higher for actively managed funds
2. US funds include many pension funds, which tend to be more conservative.
(Peter Lynch mentioned this in his book.)
3. ETF's performance depends on investors' sentiment and confidence. See the attached diagram.

Now, comparing US and Malaysia:
Factor #1 - applicable to Malaysia too.
Factor #2 - applicable to Malaysia too, but you can certainly pick the more aggressive funds.
Factor #3 - not happening in Malaysia, yet.
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I agreed with u. Have u started in us etf ? I m interested.
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Dec 8 2016, 04:36 PM)
Btw, just curious to know, which fund are you'll referring it as Ponzi 1 and Ponzi 2 ?
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full list of funds "nickname".. biggrin.gif laugh.gif innocent.gif thumbsup.gif rclxs0.gif
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post Dec 8 2016, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Dec 8 2016, 05:36 PM)
I agreed with u. Have u started in us etf ? I m interested.
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Not yet lah biggrin.gif
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post Dec 8 2016, 07:37 PM

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Kapchai fund still can go in ? Or wait
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post Dec 8 2016, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Dec 8 2016, 05:36 AM)
US market all time high.. smile.gif
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For the US market all time high, TA global tech lost 0.2%, other us equity funds lost >1%.

The correlation with index is so far off ? Is it because of ringgit strengthening ?

This post has been edited by puchongite: Dec 8 2016, 07:46 PM
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post Dec 8 2016, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Dec 8 2016, 07:37 PM)
Kapchai fund still can go in ? Or wait
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depending of how much % you wanted it to constitute in your portfolio.....
if you currently has less than 5%,...I would say yes...can still go in
if you currently has > 10%, ...I would say yes....wait a while more then decide.
if you have > 20%, I would say yes.......if you can stomach that heavy allocation and have other none so high risk investment......
if you have >50%, I would say yes......if you know what you are doing.
if you have >80%, I would say yes......if this % in RM terms is just kacang to you.
so it depends....
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post Dec 8 2016, 07:59 PM

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"The number of approved applications for investment withdrawal via the Members Investment Scheme (MIS), meanwhile, increased 15.4% to 179,351 involving an amount of RM1.57bil in Q3 2016 from 155,417 involving an amount of RM1.51bil in the corresponding period of 2015."

wow,....so many think they knows where to make > EPF rate......
cry.gif why couldn't I.... doh.gif bangwall.gif

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...rement-savings/

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post Dec 8 2016, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Dec 8 2016, 07:52 PM)
depending of how much % you wanted it to constitute in your portfolio.....
if you currently has less than 5%,...I would say yes...can still go in
if you currently has > 10%, ...I would say yes....wait a while more then decide.
if you have > 20%, I would say yes.......if you can stomach that heavy allocation and have other none so high risk investment......
if you have >50%, I would say yes......if you know what you are doing.
if you have >80%, I would say yes......if this % in RM terms is just kacang to you.
so it depends....
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So only people with 10%-20% need to wait, the rest is yes, can go in. Right?
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post Dec 8 2016, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Dec 8 2016, 07:59 PM)
"The number of approved applications for investment withdrawal via the Members Investment Scheme (MIS), meanwhile, increased 15.4% to 179,351 involving an amount of RM1.57bil in Q3 2016 from 155,417 involving an amount of RM1.51bil in the corresponding period of 2015."

wow,....so many think they knows where to make > EPF rate......
cry.gif  why couldn't I.... doh.gif  bangwall.gif

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...rement-savings/
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from the article it states that less epf members withdraw their retirement savings upon reaching age 55. it's good no?

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 8 2016, 08:51 PM)
So only people with 10%-20% need to wait, the rest is yes, can go in. Right?
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yes....can go in if you had waited long enough and had decided that it is now the time.... innocent.gif
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post Dec 8 2016, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 8 2016, 08:53 PM)
from the article it states that less epf members withdraw their retirement savings upon reaching age 55. it's good no?
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I guess most realised the track records.....or are not in the need to withdraw....then it is good.....as for them they have still have no need to withdraw it for life's subsistence.

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QUOTE(T231H @ Dec 8 2016, 08:55 PM)
yes....can go in if you had waited long enough and had decided that it is now the time.... innocent.gif
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I don't have any kapchai. I belong to the can-go-in-now group. Lol.
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post Dec 8 2016, 09:23 PM

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Those with TA Global, you may want to read this

Apple’s Top Assembler Foxconn Confirms Plans for U.S. Investment
Bloomberg News
December 7, 2016 — 12:37 AM EST

Foxconn Technology Group, the biggest assembler of Apple Inc. devices, is in preliminary discussions to make an investment that would expand the company’s U.S. operations.

The disclosure came hours after an announcement by U.S. President-elect Donald Trump and SoftBank Group Corp.’s Masayoshi Son to invest $50 billion in the U.S. and create 50,000 jobs. The money will come from SoftBank’s $100 billion technology fund, which was announced in October, a person familiar with the matter said. A document that Son held up after the meeting in Trump Tower also included the words “Foxconn,” “$7 billion” and “50,000 new jobs” in addition to SoftBank’s numbers.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...-u-s-investment

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Dec 8 2016, 07:37 PM)
Kapchai fund still can go in ? Or wait
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as a Malaysian investor I would say no. political environment and instability of our leaders dampen our country's chance to grow big.
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post Dec 8 2016, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Dec 8 2016, 07:37 PM)
Kapchai fund still can go in ? Or wait
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Tis is a million MYR to answer
Based on current scenarios, there is no catalyst for Bursa to shine
Having said tat, Bursa could b a superstar as market is irrational brows.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Dec 8 2016, 09:43 PM)
Tis is a million MYR to answer
Based on current scenarios, there is no catalyst for Bursa to shine
Having said tat, Bursa could b a superstar as market is irrational  brows.gif
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wake me up when that happens. until then I'll be investing in specific Malaysian companies through stocks rather than a Malaysian fund
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post Dec 8 2016, 09:50 PM

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Then i know what to do alrdy. Will do switching to Eastspring Global Emerging.
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Dec 8 2016, 09:50 PM)
Then i know what to do alrdy. Will do switching to Eastspring Global Emerging.
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same with me.

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I made a lost of 2% and pulled out on the 1st December . now recovering whilst kapchai is still going down
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post Dec 8 2016, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Dec 8 2016, 07:37 PM)
Kapchai fund still can go in ? Or wait
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I have been a participant in Kapchai UTF since mid 2013, my longest holding in any one fund, exclude the CMF.

Come this 31st Jan 2017, which is time for me to do my biannual portfolio re-balancing, I am considering to exit this fund in view of KLSE lackluster performance.

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post Dec 8 2016, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 8 2016, 10:13 PM)
I have been a participant in Kapchai UTF since mid 2013, my longest holding in any one fund, exclude the CMF.

Come this 31st Jan 2017, which is time for me to do my biannual portfolio re-balancing, I am considering to exit this fund in view of KLSE lackluster performance.

Xuzen
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I used epf monies. Shall i exit ? Its abt 10k.

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