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post Jun 8 2020, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(idealhometech @ Jun 7 2020, 11:22 AM)
Different Spec:

Indoor:
- DS-2CD1143G0E-I (4MP Digital WDR, 2560 × 1440 @ 20fps)
- DS-2CD2143G0-I (4MP True WDR, 2688 × 1520 @ 25fps)
- DS-2CD2347G3E-L (4MP ColorVu, 2560 × 1440 @25fps)

Outdoor:
- DS-2CD1043G0-I (4MP Digital WDR, 2560 × 1440 @ 20fps)
- DS-2CD2043G0-I (4MP True WDR, 2688 × 1520 @ 25fps)
- DS-2CD2T47G3E-L (4MP ColorVu, 2560 × 1440 @25fps)
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Great, now I get it.

Do you have any recommendations of higher end series with Mic and motorised camera?
Budget about RM500-RM700.
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post Jun 8 2020, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Snoy @ Jun 8 2020, 07:58 AM)
Great, now I get it.

Do you have any recommendations of higher end series with Mic and motorised camera?
Budget about RM500-RM700.
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Motorised lens or Pan/Tilt?


Indoor PT:
DS-2CV2Q21FD-IW (2MP, Pan Tilt, 2-way audio)- RM180
Built-in Mic & Speaker, but not PoE, so need to make a power socket for it.

or

Outdoor PTZ:
DS-2DE3204W-DE (2MP, Pan tilt, 4x Zoom, Audio Connector) - RM730

Indoor PTZ:
DS-2DE2204IW-DE3 (2MP, Pan tilt, 4x Zoom, Audio Connector) - RM580

Both PTZ got Audio In/Output Connector, u can connect external mic, speaker to it.

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Motorised Lens (Varifocal)

DS-2CD2621G0-IS (Bullet, 2MP, 4.2x Zoom, Audio Connector) - RM500

DS-2CD2721G0-IS (Dome, 2MP, 4.2x Zoom, Audio Connector) - RM530

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post Jun 8 2020, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(idealhometech @ Jun 8 2020, 11:40 AM)
Motorised lens or Pan/Tilt?
Indoor PT:
DS-2CV2Q21FD-IW (2MP, Pan Tilt, 2-way audio)- RM180
Built-in Mic & Speaker, but not PoE, so need to make a power socket for it.

or

Outdoor PTZ:
DS-2DE3204W-DE (2MP, Pan tilt, 4x Zoom, Audio Connector) - RM730

Indoor PTZ:
DS-2DE2204IW-DE3 (2MP, Pan tilt, 4x Zoom, Audio Connector) - RM580

Both PTZ got Audio In/Output Connector, u can connect external mic, speaker to it.

or

Motorised Lens (Varifocal)

DS-2CD2621G0-IS (Bullet, 2MP, 4.2x Zoom, Audio Connector) - RM500

DS-2CD2721G0-IS (Dome, 2MP, 4.2x Zoom, Audio Connector) - RM530
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Thank you for the suggestion and correction.

What I want was indeed PT indoor POE with mic camera.
The initial suggestion, DS-2CD1323G0-IU (2MP with Mic) matched well but I was looking for better range (ColorVu/DarkFigther are good).

I'm not sure how the audio connector works.
I assume external mic should work with POE camera but external speaker may require additional power supply, right?
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post Jun 8 2020, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(Snoy @ Jun 8 2020, 03:19 PM)
Thank you for the suggestion and correction.

What I want was indeed PT indoor POE with mic camera.
The initial suggestion, DS-2CD1323G0-IU (2MP with Mic) matched well but I was looking for better range (ColorVu/DarkFigther are good).

I'm not sure how the audio connector works.
I assume external mic should work with POE camera but external speaker may require additional power supply, right?
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Yes, u need external 12V for mic for that PoE PTZ camera.

If DarkFighter with built-in mic, either:
DS-2CD2425FWD-I (2MP) - RM420

DS-2CD2545FWD-IS (4MP) - RM570

DS-2CD2525FWD-IS (2MP) - RM530

if Non-Dark Fighter:

DS-2CD2543G0-IS (4MP) - RM430

DS-2CD2523G0-IS (2MP) - RM390

if ColorVu:

DS-2CD2347G1-LU (4MP) - RM600

DS-2CD2327G1-LU (2MP) - RM530

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it seem there is some bug at the unifi D-Link DIR-850L router 2.12TM firmware release at 2019, Dahua imou Ip Camera Cloud Live Stream would Disconnect 99% of time, While LAN and Wifi Live Stream still working 100% of time, but 6 Models, 4 Brands of newer and older generation Ip Camera Cloud Live Stream would still working well 100% of time.

tried to reset and reconfig/setting manually without config backup and upload unifi D-Link DIR-850L router, bug issue still happen.

tried to Enable UPnP: ; IPv4 Multicast Streams: ; IPv6 Multicast Streams: ; Application Level Gateway (ALG) Configuration ; PPTP: ; IPSec (VPN): ; RTSP: ; SIP: ; and Multiple Port Forwarding, work a while and Cloud Disconnect again.

Enable DMZ: work but didn't spend the times to test it for how long, but DMZ work for only single device/IP.

Tested Dahua imou Ip Camera Cloud Live Stream with TP-Link Deco M4 v2 Latest Firmware 190917 , working 100% of time.

more Detail Report here : https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry97021190

subscribe and install unifi fibre 30mbps at December 2017, the unifi D-Link DIR-850L router came with newer Default Firmware 2.09TM , the Sticker at the plastic router casing and package box bottom has Firmware 2.09TM written, the big multiple Realtek Chipset security issue was fixed with this Default Firmware. never tried to play with different Region firmware upload & install manually with this router, the only firmware upgrade done was 2.10TM and 2.12TM , at router web interface Check for New Firmware.

tried to Flash unifi D-Link DIR-850L with newest international Firmware 2.23 with lastest fixes, 1st Boot to D-Link Router Recovery Mode and flash Middle Firmware DIR850LB1_FW210WWb03.bin , then router web interface Upgrade Manually DIR850LB1_FW220WWb03.bin , then DIR850LB1_FW223WWb01.bin , after that Restore To Factory Default Settings and reconfig/setting manually without config backup and upload.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry86448823

http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=44909.0

ftp://ftp2.dlink.com/SECURITY_ADVISEMENTS...CH_v2.20B03.zip

http://pmdap.dlink.com.tw/PMD/GetAgileFile...3494E7;19623.0;

http://pmdap.dlink.com.tw/PMD/GetAgileFile...0064E7;15877.0;

ftp://ftp2.dlink.com/PRODUCTS/DIR-850L/RE...BM8_WW_BETA.zip

with Latest international Firmware 2.23 , all [Dahua imou Ip Camera Cloud Live Stream would Disconnect 99% of time] issue was gone, now Dahua imou Ip Camera Cloud Cloud Live Stream was working 100% of time, same as all other [6 Models, 4 Brands of newer and older generation Ip Camera Cloud Live Stream would still working well 100% of time.] with all setting turned off [UPnP: ; IPv4 Multicast Streams: ; IPv6 Multicast Streams: ; Application Level Gateway (ALG) Configuration ; PPTP: ; IPSec (VPN): ; RTSP: ; SIP: ; Multiple Port Forwarding ; DMZ]

another issue happen since 2.12TM firmware also gone, System Log E-Mail, now it's also working 100% of time. this issue doesn't happen at 2.10TM firmware.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry92708171

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry92708161

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry92708142

the D-Link DIR-850L international firmware doesn't have TM TR-069 and other customization, router web interface is much smoother.

QUOTE(Alpha_Tay @ Jun 5 2020, 05:24 AM)
anybody tried the new dahua imou brand ip camera just officially sell at lazada malaysia?

i tried imou Cue 2 ip camera with only wireless connection and imou Ranger 2 with both LAN and wireless connection, however both model and both LAN and wireless connection would always disconnect 99% of time from dahua imou cloud at the imou life android apps and dahua SmartPSS windows x64 software, however the ip camera itself is working fine, the android apps imou life have a LAN Live function, live stream over LAN still work for both model with both LAN and wireless connection. there is also a dahua SmartPSS windows x64 software, with both cloud and LAN function, LAN function is working fine, cloud is the same would always disconnect 99% of time.

my internet connection is unifi 300mbps with fiberhome modem and unifi D-Link DIR-850L latest firmware 2.12TM , i have multiple brand and model ip camera with cloud live stream function, all are working well without any single cloud live stream issue.
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post Jun 16 2020, 11:41 AM

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Am looking for cctv for my house. Two for car porch, One for outdoor, wifi.

Requirement is must be night vision clear and able to identify vehicle no. and of course, face of person. And simple to use.

Any suggestions?
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QUOTE(chkwong @ Jun 16 2020, 11:41 AM)
Am looking for cctv for my house. Two for car porch, One for outdoor, wifi.

Requirement is must be night vision clear and able to identify vehicle no. and of course, face of person. And simple to use.

Any suggestions?
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Use 5Mp sure can see plates & face within 20'. Just camera? No need recorder?
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post Jun 17 2020, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Jun 16 2020, 01:38 PM)
Use 5Mp sure can see plates & face within 20'. Just camera? No need recorder?
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Something like those Xiaomi CCTV which can record to cloud or mobile access.
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QUOTE(chkwong @ Jun 17 2020, 09:54 AM)
Something like those Xiaomi CCTV which can record to cloud or mobile access.
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I am testing a unit of 5Mp PTZ 18x zoom with wifi. Can share the online link for you to see the quality but can only record direct to sdcard or nvr. No cloud.

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post Jun 17 2020, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Jun 17 2020, 10:50 AM)
I am testing a unit of 5Mp PTZ 18x zoom with wifi. Can share the online link for you to see the quality but can only record direct to sdcard or nvr. No cloud.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjIfI2aX2QU
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post Jun 19 2020, 10:38 PM

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hi guys
thinking to get this cctv for my house

EZVIZ C3W Color Night Vision 1080P at rm299

any other options better than this?
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post Jun 20 2020, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(epie @ Jun 19 2020, 10:38 PM)
hi guys
thinking to get this cctv for my house

EZVIZ C3W Color Night Vision 1080P at rm299

any other options better than this?
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Maybe u can consider IMOU G22, G26E or C26E
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post Jun 21 2020, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(idealhometech @ Jun 20 2020, 12:50 PM)
Maybe u can consider IMOU G22, G26E or C26E
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thanks for the suggestion...any particular reason why u recommend imou over ezviz?

anyway....i heard that most of the cctv that has alarm tend to give false alarm i.e insects fly over..pets and car
any cctv can overcome this?

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QUOTE(epie @ Jun 21 2020, 11:20 PM)
thanks for the suggestion...any particular reason why u recommend imou over ezviz?

anyway....i heard that most of the cctv that has alarm tend to give false alarm i.e insects fly over..pets and car
any cctv can overcome this?
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Nowadays some have human detection so it's a bit better than motion. Less false alarm but still not perfect.
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QUOTE(adamw @ Jun 22 2020, 09:49 AM)
Nowadays some have human detection so it's a bit better than motion. Less false alarm but still not perfect.
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Thanks bro... Can suggest me any model that is good to avoid false alarm
Currently only have ezviz in my mind... And my budget is around rm300 each
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QUOTE(epie @ Jun 21 2020, 11:20 PM)
thanks for the suggestion...any particular reason why u recommend imou over ezviz?

anyway....i heard that most of the cctv that has alarm tend to give false alarm i.e insects fly over..pets and car
any cctv can overcome this?
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From our experience, IMOU wifi cctv better than ezviz, but IMOU price slightly expensive.

Yes, u will get false alarm because camera motion detection based on image pixel change. Now only cctv with built-in Ai can differentiate human, vehicle, pets, insect, etc.. But very expensive.

If u opt for IMOU G26E, it has motion detector PIR built-in, can reduce false alarm.




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QUOTE(epie @ Jun 22 2020, 10:33 AM)
Thanks bro... Can suggest me any model that is good to avoid false alarm
Currently only have ezviz in my mind... And my budget is around rm300 each
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Are you using it for instant trigger to phone? Need free cloud?
And the Imou G26E, I thought PIR will normally detect human but seems tree moving also detected.
Can read the review here IMOU but it's below 300 though.
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QUOTE(adamw @ Jun 22 2020, 10:48 PM)
Are you using it for instant trigger to phone? Need free cloud?
And the Imou G26E, I thought PIR will normally detect human but seems tree moving also detected.
Can read the review here IMOU but it's below 300 though.
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the main purpose for me to have motion sensor is to trigger the alarm siren as my house do not have any alarm system
but if it keeps giving false alarm than no point to have it as it will disturb me and my neighbors
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QUOTE(epie @ Jun 22 2020, 10:54 PM)
the main purpose for me to have motion sensor is to trigger the alarm siren as my house do not have any alarm system
but if it keeps giving false alarm than no point to have it as it will disturb me and my neighbors
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Hi all

I would need to install CCTV at my house but all the quotations that I received from a few sellers were rm2500 without hacking, rm3000 with hacking and yesterday, another seller quoted rm4000.
I actually think I only need about 4 wired cameras for the ground floor
1. Porch
2. Hall
3. Kitchen
4. Back

For the upper floor, I would just get the wireless one and fix it if I really need it. I have a maid and its just a precaution thingylar..to be safe.

The thing is, the house is undergoing renovation and my contractor's electrician is around as well, I can get them to fix for me the wires all, so I was just thinking if I can do it myself instead.

So, my next question is..what type of camera do I need to buy, saw some HIK vision stuff, what do you all recommend and if possible, provide me the link, so that I can buy it.
I should be able to do the configuration myself, also..what type of wiring would I need..

And...for the porch and the back, how do I know if my camera is waterprooflar...

Looking for advice as well, you see the area is already gated and guarded.. so..I am not gonna go for any alarm system like that. Just would like to save moneylar...don't want to spend unnecessarily.
I should also mention that, my contractor is also laying for me the cat6 cables for data point.

What cables do the CCTV thing use?

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