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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V) Se7en, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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post Oct 17 2016, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(filage @ Oct 17 2016, 01:13 PM)
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Cheapest condo 400k. U got to get ready 10% ard 40k and also legal fee ard 7k.

If u buy 2nd hand, the legal fee is more. If new one then u save on d snp.
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post Oct 18 2016, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 16 2016, 07:06 PM)
When you die, all your holdings in asnb will be transferred to your kids in cash. By paying them rm190 (current price) + extra charges you get to transfer your holdings in unit form instead of cash.

In my opinion not worth it as
(i) we won't be sure how amanah saham return is in the future
(ii) your kid will be charged a few % commission when the transfer is done
(iii) if I am not mistaken, there's a yearly fees
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Without this, it will take 2 years for your kids to get cash.
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post Oct 18 2016, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 18 2016, 09:00 AM)
Without this, it will take  2 years for your kids to get cash.
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Not really. If I am not mistaken, The pengisytiharan does it in 21 days. But with a will just a few months (2 months?). There was a discussion about this in one of the old threads.
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post Oct 18 2016, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 16 2016, 07:19 PM)
Oh ya, the time is also another one. With will, one get the money slower, with this pengisytiharan amanah, one get the money faster. Thanks for pointing out about the annual fees. For me the annual fees + the transfer charge is a turn off. If one time payment of say RM100, I won't mind asking my parents to go for it. But since there is annual fees + the transfer charge, I told my parents don't need to waste money.
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If u put ASX in the will it is costlier. Without will it will take 2 years, my friend's experience. And pls don't compare with DIY will.

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post Oct 18 2016, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 18 2016, 09:02 AM)
Not really. If I am not mistaken, The pengisytiharan does it in 21 days. But with a will just a few months (2 months?). There was a discussion about this in one of the old threads.
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I think, it depends on how soon the issue of a grand of probate.

I couldn't see the reason of ASNB to delay the release in the presence of a grant of probate.

Unless, it is for their selfish interest of keeping their pengisytiharan business.


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post Oct 18 2016, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Oct 17 2016, 02:55 PM)
What would be a good proportion to diversify to UT compared to FP?
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There is no specific answer as it depends on individual objective n risk appetite

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post Oct 18 2016, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 17 2016, 02:45 AM)
(i) How many years you want to pay yearly fees? 20-30 years? What happen if in between ASX FP change to VP/not performing/inflation in Malaysia creep up until = return given by ASX FP? If anything happen, can cabut anytime I like.
(ii) One time fees + that yearly fees still can stomach. But not the % amount charged (parents words - not mine)
(iii) True. But look at the % charged.
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V think there is enuf time to live but v nvr know which moment is the last
If u think will is not important as part of wealth mgmt, then just forget it

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post Oct 18 2016, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 18 2016, 10:54 AM)
V think there is enuf time to live but v nvr know which moment is the last
If u think will is not important as part of wealth mgmt, then just forget it
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Parents already included in amanah saham into their will. But this pengisytiharan stuff is redundant.
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post Oct 18 2016, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 18 2016, 10:54 AM)
V think there is enuf time to live but v nvr know which moment is the last
If u think will is not important as part of wealth mgmt, then just forget it
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With PA, one can bypass lawyer and claim direct to ASNB with all the required documents, right?


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post Oct 18 2016, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(twinkle5129 @ Oct 18 2016, 11:15 AM)
With PA, one can bypass lawyer and claim direct to ASNB with all the required documents, right?
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Yes as time is of essence especially kids or elderly who is dependent on cash flow for daily expenses
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post Oct 18 2016, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 18 2016, 10:54 AM)
V think there is enuf time to live but v nvr know which moment is the last
If u think will is not important as part of wealth mgmt, then just forget it
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Will is very important. But, the execution part is very tricky. Beneficial may have option of skipping some unnecessary fat bills. This is the feeling I have after speaking with a few will advisers.

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post Oct 18 2016, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 18 2016, 11:21 AM)
Yes as time is of essence especially kids or elderly who is dependent on cash flow for daily expenses
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Thanks. I was mulling about doing PA last May as I already have a personal will.
The advantage of transfer of ASNB units are the BIGGEST highlight for me.
$10/yr is very minimal maintenance fees cost for a peaceful mind esp after I've invested so much time 'gathering' precious units.
Now my lawyer can 'claim' less % on my other assets as this PA will handle my ASNB units faster and I've read, cheaper too.

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post Oct 18 2016, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(kpfun @ Oct 18 2016, 11:26 AM)
Will is very important. But, the execution part is very tricky. Beneficial may have option of skipping some unnecessary fat bills. This is the feeling I have after speaking with a few will advisers.
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Mind to share the details of 'unnecessary fat bills'?
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post Oct 18 2016, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(twinkle5129 @ Oct 18 2016, 11:33 AM)
Thanks. I was mulling about doing PA last May as I already have a personal will.
The advantage of transfer of ASNB units are the BIGGEST highlight for me.
$10/yr is very minimal maintenance fees cost for a peaceful mind esp after I've invested so much time 'gathering' precious units.
Now my lawyer can 'claim' less % on my other assets as this PA will handle my ASNB units faster and I've read, cheaper too.
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Your lawyaer can 'claim' less % on your asset other assets but ASNB can claim lots.
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post Oct 18 2016, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(kpfun @ Oct 18 2016, 11:26 AM)
Will is very important. But, the execution part is very tricky. Beneficial may have option of skipping some unnecessary fat bills. This is the feeling I have after speaking with a few will advisers.
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 18 2016, 11:36 AM)
Mind to share the details of 'unnecessary fat bills'?
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I wonder how about those without wills/ PA? How can/ how long before the next of kin claims back from ASNB.
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post Oct 18 2016, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(twinkle5129 @ Oct 18 2016, 11:41 AM)
I wonder how about those without wills/ PA? How can/ how long before the next of kin claims back from ASNB.
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A fren of mine need to run up n down like a donkey for 3 years when his dad passed away
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post Oct 18 2016, 12:00 PM

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PA Vs Will, which on better for ASX?
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post Oct 18 2016, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Oct 17 2016, 03:43 PM)
All 3 ASX FP
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I was able to top up ASW.


QUOTE(OPT @ Oct 17 2016, 04:05 PM)
I don't think there is a new form...for those who has been topping these few months lol
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Ehem.




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post Oct 18 2016, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(wu ming @ Oct 18 2016, 12:07 PM)
I was able to top up ASW.
Ehem.
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Wow, sapu by you? What time you got it and how much ?
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QUOTE(wu ming @ Oct 18 2016, 12:07 PM)
Ehem.
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Thanks for the form..
Seems part C & D is new...
Others are the same

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