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post Sep 24 2016, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 24 2016, 04:05 PM)
A turning point for emerging markets

Franklin Templeton: Emerging markets can sustain outperformance, driven by valuations and potential growth factors

URL: http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...erging-markets/
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My question now is when to get out of emerging market.
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post Sep 24 2016, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Sep 24 2016, 09:23 AM)
Nice.

My kenanga growth fund feel sluggish...😣

I only have 8-10k there but my wife have almost 30k in there...

Hopefully they catch up the return...
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What is the reason for it's recent sluggishness ?
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post Sep 24 2016, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Sep 24 2016, 06:02 PM)
My question now is when to get out of emerging market.
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if you are a trader, some would suggest to 1st determine your profit/lost target in %?
if you are a long term investor, some would suggest determine your required % of allocation...sell off excesses?

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QUOTE(tmc @ Sep 24 2016, 06:05 PM)
What is the reason for it's recent sluggishness ?
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hmm.gif maybe the answer is the performance of the equities market of the country that this fund are mandated to focus on are not doing well compared to others?
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post Sep 24 2016, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Sep 24 2016, 06:15 PM)
hmm.gif maybe the answer is the performance of the equities market of the country that this fund are mandated to focus on are not doing well compared to others?
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Any relationship with 1MDB ?
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post Sep 24 2016, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Sep 24 2016, 06:17 PM)
Any relationship with 1MDB ?
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how long had this 1MDB story been going on?
how long had this sluggish performance of this fund had been?

to say no relationship is not true....but just how many % are due to this 1MDB issue?
there maybe also other things like, low oil prices, low palm oil prices, low properties sales, etc, etc

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post Sep 24 2016, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Sep 24 2016, 06:19 PM)
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how long had this 1MDB story been going on?
how long had this sluggish performance of this fund had been?
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There was a major dip for KGF somewhere sept 15.
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post Sep 24 2016, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Sep 24 2016, 06:08 PM)
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if you are a trader, some would suggest to 1st determine your profit/lost target in %?
if you are a long term investor, some would suggest determine your required % of allocation...sell off excesses?
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Not looking for internal reason to sell off. Looking for external reasons to sell off and invest in something else. devil.gif
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QUOTE(tmc @ Sep 24 2016, 06:24 PM)
There was a major dip for KGF somewhere sept 15.
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May 2014: The Sarawak Report, a whistleblowing website run by British investigative journalist Clare Rewcastle Brown, begins to publish allegations about misappropriation of state funds by 1MDB.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/malaysian-pm-n...721-gqadif.html

QUOTE(tmc @ Sep 24 2016, 06:29 PM)
Not looking for internal reason to sell off. Looking for external reasons to sell off and invest in something else.  devil.gif
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hmm.gif then anytime also can be a sell off date.....there are a lot of external reasons be it good or bad ones.... biggrin.gif
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post Sep 24 2016, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Sep 24 2016, 06:30 PM)

hmm.gif then anytime also can be a sell off date.....there are a lot of external reasons be it good or bad ones....  biggrin.gif
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Thank you for being patience with me. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 25 2016, 07:01 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 24 2016, 04:05 PM)
A turning point for emerging markets

Franklin Templeton: Emerging markets can sustain outperformance, driven by valuations and potential growth factors

URL: http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...erging-markets/
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According to him emerging markets will continue to be good for another 3-4 years. Question is whether you want to believe him or not.
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post Sep 25 2016, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 24 2016, 10:39 AM)
Riversand, There will not be any Std-Dev for ASX FP UTF or if there is, they are negligible compared to normal UTF as ASX FP UTF's NAV remained fixed.

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Risk free return, something you repeatedly preach, is given by (one of the formula):

Sharpe Ratio = (investment return - risk free rate)/Std-Dev

Now, if Std-Dev for ASx is negligible, the Sharpe Ratio goes towards infinity rclxm9.gif

You are not practicing what you preach brows.gif
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post Sep 25 2016, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Sep 25 2016, 08:01 AM)
Risk free return, something you repeatedly preach, is given by (one of the formula):

Sharpe Ratio = (investment return - risk free rate)/Std-Dev

Now, if Std-Dev for ASx is negligible, the Sharpe Ratio goes towards infinity  rclxm9.gif

You are not practicing what you preach  brows.gif
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For FP ASX, investment return = risk free rate, so Sharpe ratio is 0 regardless of std dev? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Sep 25 2016, 07:01 AM)
According to him emerging markets will continue to be good for another 3-4 years. Question is whether you want to believe him or not.
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Affinhwang & FSM also said EM is the place to bet wor.......i guess they looked at the valuation n upside potential data....
Well, they are not GOD.....they are just like us but with a much better advantage in term of experiences, resources n inside knowledge etc, etc......so on the question of should one trust him or not?.......(borrowed phrase) Are feeling more lucky, if not gonna follow, punk? ☺

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Sep 25 2016, 09:05 AM)
For FP ASX, investment return = risk free rate, so Sharpe ratio is 0 regardless of std dev? tongue.gif
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Risk free rate is epf dividend 6.xx%.
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post Sep 25 2016, 10:29 AM

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ah pek with smartphone noob here.....

when I noticed something nice that I wanted to share in LYN.....
i log into LYN on smartphone......
I clicked the CHOOSE FILE button.....
there was this CAMERA icon....
I clicked it & took a picture with it.....

but when I "add this...." or "add reply"....
it just goes to stand still mode......

anyone know the correct way to sent pic taken on smartphone to LYN?

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post Sep 25 2016, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 25 2016, 10:29 AM)
ah pek with smartphone noob here.....

when I noticed something nice that I wanted to share in LYN.....
i log into LYN on smartphone......
I clicked the CHOOSE FILE button.....
there was this CAMERA icon....
I clicked it & took a picture with it.....

but when I "add this...." or "add reply"....
it just goes to stand still mode......

anyone know the correct way to sent pic taken on smartphone to LYN?
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Browser permission to storage not granted.

Assume android phone.

Settings - installed apps - your browser or whichever app

Check permissions.

After enable it might have to kill the browser and restart.
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post Sep 25 2016, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Sep 25 2016, 09:42 AM)
Risk free rate is epf dividend 6.xx%.
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Some correction; definition of risk free rate is a rate that does not change frequently. KWSP dividend is a poor representation of risk free rate as that dividend changes year to year.

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post Sep 25 2016, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Sep 25 2016, 10:50 AM)
Browser permission to storage not granted.

Assume android phone.

Settings - installed apps - your browser or whichever app

Check permissions.

After enable it might have to kill the browser and restart.
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yes,
android Samsung phone.
in SETTING/APPLICATIONS/DEFAULT APPLICATIONS/
I access web by clicking internet icon so I click
INTERNET....UNDER PERMISSIONS....
"this application can access the following on your devise:
take pictures and videos" (is among the many that I can see stated there)

could it be LYN forum has a quota / jpeg file size limitation that limits pictures taken from smartphone and posted directly from phone?
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post Sep 25 2016, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 25 2016, 11:15 AM)
yes,
android Samsung phone.
in SETTING/APPLICATIONS/DEFAULT APPLICATIONS/
I access web by clicking internet icon so I click
INTERNET....UNDER PERMISSIONS....
"this application can access the following on your devise:
take pictures and videos" (is among the many that I can see stated there)

could it be LYN forum has a quota / jpeg file size limitation that limits pictures taken from smartphone and posted directly from phone?
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You can try upload the pic to imgur. Then copy the link for forum (if I am not mistaken is call bb code) which will look something like [ img ] url of pic [ img ]

No need to make new account/download app. Button to upload is top right (cloud icon).

Hope that helps.

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