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 Kena rip off by DIGI?, DIGI user... please come in..

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post Jul 25 2016, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jul 25 2016, 04:44 PM)
A contract is a contract - get this fact right , and you will find all your arguments are self defeating.

changing package , upgrade plan etc - is not part of the contract, so whatever your sentiments are - they are irrelevant.

reverse this for a moment - what if some accounts department made a mistake in their prices offering for a phone - can Digi write to you to charge you more after realizing their mistake ? they can't - because they'd entered into contract with you. can Digi reduce your monthly quota ? they can't while they are in contract.

it's a buyer - seller thing with both side pledging to HONOUR their terms and conditions.
rule of law and first world mentality should start with ourselves. taking responsibility for our action and not to run away when the facts are clearly not in our favour.

if contract can be changed , and everyone won't honor it how will our country progress? telco will not want to subsidize phones in future due to uncertainty of contract FFK.they also have to provide for "non performing contracts" in their financial report. it will be hard for account department to estimate income from contracts. all this will indirectly affect consumers , because telco will charge an "insurance" on top of the phone prices to provide for FFK contracts.
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Oh yea.. just so you know..

with all the HONOUR talks... and how we are bound to contract...

Gues what.... Digi allows you to modify your contract as long as they are the one benefiting it... they allow you to midway change plan as long as you are paying more or as in upgrading your plan...

Bottomline.. whatever you do.. as long as they are in the upper hand, they are fine with it...


They are flexible when they get more $$ ... but not flexible even if they KNOW their old customers getting screwed..
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post Jul 25 2016, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Jul 25 2016, 05:06 PM)
Oh yea.. just so you know..

with all the HONOUR talks... and how we are bound to contract...

Gues what.... Digi allows you to modify your contract as long as they are the one benefiting it... they allow you to midway change plan as long as you are paying more or as in upgrading your plan...

Bottomline.. whatever you do.. as long as they are in the upper hand, they are fine with it...
They are flexible when they get more $$ ... but not flexible even if they KNOW their old customers getting screwed..
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again - there is no coercion or force if a customer decides to upgrade halfway. he enters it willingly , and the telco offers it willingly. again it's willing buyer seller.

the onus is on US as consumers to give it due diligence BEFORE entering into a contract, not to CRY after that. I'm not defending Digi , it took me 6 months of testing and comparison of prices before signing a 24 months contrast with them. i checked the coverage at my work place and home and testing the speed. I also researched on the forum to see customers experience and complaints on all the telco.

hmm although I do have theory why you signed up the plan without much research. lol

This post has been edited by Chrono-Trigger: Jul 25 2016, 05:16 PM
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post Jul 25 2016, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jul 25 2016, 05:09 PM)
again - there is no coercion or force if a customer decides to upgrade halfway. he enters it willingly , and the telco offers if willingly. again it's willing buyer seller.

the onus is on US as consumers to give it due diligence BEFORE entering into a contract, not to CRY after that. I'm not defending Digi , it took me 6 months of testing and comparison of prices before took a 24 months contrast with them. i checked the coverage at my work place and home and testing the speed. I also researched on the forum to see customers experience and complaints on all the telco.
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Again, I'm not talking about comparing prices or dissatisfy that other Telco having better plans than them. I'm fucking pissed on how my plan is getting ripped off by the plan THEY THEMSELVE offer.

I can let go with the coverage but what pisses me off is that just because I signed up earlier a few weeks... I am paying DOUBLE for the same benefit.

I'm not even pissed about comparing with their promotional plan ... Im fucking pissed about my STANDARD plan had to pay DOUBLE for the same STANDARD plan they revised a few weeks later...


You should try paying double for something similar.... unlike physical goods... They CAN choose to revise my quota and benefits easily ... but they choose not to... so what can I say?

Customers come first?? NOPE.... screw them for signing up earlier...
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post Jul 25 2016, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jul 25 2016, 04:44 PM)
A contract is a contract - get this fact right , and you will find all your arguments are self defeating.

changing package , upgrade plan etc - is not part of the contract, so whatever your sentiments are - they are irrelevant, just saying bro.
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I agree to that to certain extent. A contract is a contract and its contents are binding. But how about customer relationship? Ie keeping the customer happy. How about customer retention? If you are in the service line, you would understand that keeping your customer happy is very important.
Nevertheless, thanks to (whatever my sentinments were), we are porting out all our company lines to another Telco which doesn't require us to sign any contracts.

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post Jul 25 2016, 05:20 PM

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You "Signed" a contract to get a phone at a lower cost. Thats how you are bond to "x" years. No issues with fraud, ethics or what so ever here as business is business.
And you said Maxis worked like a charm, by all means pay more then. I myself used all 4 telco and know Maxis service is great, just a steep price to pay.
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post Jul 25 2016, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jul 25 2016, 05:18 PM)
I agree to that to certain extent. A contract is a contract and its contents are binding. But how about customer relationship? Ie keeping the customer happy. How about customer retention? If you are in the service line, you would understand that keeping your customer happy is very important.
Nevertheless, thanks to (whatever my sentinments were), we are porting out all our company lines to another Telco which doesn't require us to sign any contracts.
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I like you....

You understand this from the consumer point of view.. or you must have studied marketing principles flex.gif



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post Jul 25 2016, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Jul 25 2016, 05:20 PM)
You "Signed" a contract to get a phone at a lower cost. Thats how you are bond to "x" years. No issues with fraud, ethics or what so ever here as business is business.
And you said Maxis worked like a charm, by all means pay more then. I myself used all 4 telco and know Maxis service is great, just a steep price to pay.
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Damn.. I am tired of repeating myself..


Like I said.. I am not comparing my plan with another non device plan...I am comparing APPLE TO APPLE..


My RM108 postpaid is a device plan... the same as RM68 device plan currently offered with 6GB while mine is 5GB...



I signed the contract... I did not say they are in breach of contract... but their business ethics is SHIT.. it's a fact when a customer signed with you earlier but you decided to screw him and not giving him what he actually deserve..
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post Jul 25 2016, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Jul 25 2016, 05:20 PM)
I like you....

You understand this from the consumer point of view.. or you must have studied marketing principles  flex.gif
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Im a graduate in business studies and marketing is one of my core study. If you look at my signature, you will know Im in a customer orientated type of business and I like to keep my customers happy. Its pretty straightforward, when your customers are not happy, they will just bring their business elsewhere.
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Jul 25 2016, 05:23 PM)
Damn.. I am tired of repeating myself..
Like I said.. I am not comparing my plan with another non device plan...I am comparing APPLE TO APPLE..
My RM108 postpaid is a device plan... the same as RM68 device plan currently offered with 6GB while mine is 5GB...
I signed the contract... I did not say they are in breach of contract... but their business ethics is SHIT.. it's a fact when a customer signed with you earlier but you decided to screw him and not giving him what he actually deserve..
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There is basically no need to argue anymore on this. Its very clear that Digi wont ever accomodate your request no matter what your excuse are. Next time, be a smart consumer and try to look for a Telco which doesn't require you to sign a contract OR which are more willing to accomodate their customers' requests.
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post Jul 25 2016, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Jul 25 2016, 05:23 PM)
Damn.. I am tired of repeating myself..
Like I said.. I am not comparing my plan with another non device plan...I am comparing APPLE TO APPLE..
My RM108 postpaid is a device plan... the same as RM68 device plan currently offered with 6GB while mine is 5GB...
I signed the contract... I did not say they are in breach of contract... but their business ethics is SHIT.. it's a fact when a customer signed with you earlier but you decided to screw him and not giving him what he actually deserve..
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I don't think they have any intention to cheat you at that point of time.

since then so many things have changed, other telco started throwing prices and Digi faced intense competition , so they had to follow suit by lowering their prices. nobody expected this you know.

have you written to Digi to ask them to give you more data? here is the problem , if they do that , it will get viral here lol and they have to deal with the social media PR which affected maxis a while ago.

I am sure if they want to give you more data, they must be prepared to give ALL the same.

not easy you know lol.

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post Jul 25 2016, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Jul 25 2016, 05:23 PM)
Damn.. I am tired of repeating myself..
Like I said.. I am not comparing my plan with another non device plan...I am comparing APPLE TO APPLE..
My RM108 postpaid is a device plan... the same as RM68 device plan currently offered with 6GB while mine is 5GB...
I signed the contract... I did not say they are in breach of contract... but their business ethics is SHIT.. it's a fact when a customer signed with you earlier but you decided to screw him and not giving him what he actually deserve..
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The value of "x" product is RM108 at February. True
However, the value of RM108 is not the same in July.
Digi made a sale in Feb based on certain figures which amounts to that profit/lost margin.
Later in the year, those figures could have changed due to external factors and what not, which affects the price point.

The biggest issue for you is, you gotten a product at a "x" discount price which was factored in. Is not just as simple as a "Service" sold.

Correct me if I'm wrong, investment plans and medical insurance also would not do scale you up or down if you bought a plan early of the year and they decide to revise it later on.

And lets make a "IF" statement. IF the new price is RM108 for 2gb only and Digi decides to scale you down, will you be happy eventhou you signed a 2 year contract for 5GB ?

Contracts also do exist to protect a buyer incase such case happens you know...

Btw Im not Digi fan boy, as I said, I use all 4 telco.

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jul 25 2016, 05:27 PM)
There is basically no need to argue anymore on this. Its very clear that Digi wont ever accomodate your request no matter what your excuse are. Next time, be a smart consumer and try to look for a Telco which doesn't require you to sign a contract OR which are more willing to accomodate their customers' requests.
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ya Lo. ask him get prepaid next time or direct purchase phone.

many of my friends do that.
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post Jul 25 2016, 05:37 PM

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Here is a tip. Make a huge rant and if your lucky, you get their CEO to appear on Video for 3 mins and revise things for you, like what happen in Maxis biggrin.gif
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post Jul 25 2016, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Jul 25 2016, 05:37 PM)
Here is a tip. Make a huge rant and if your lucky, you get their CEO to appear on Video for 3 mins and revise things for you, like what happen in Maxis biggrin.gif
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Hahaha.. That would take a few thousands subscribers to be unhappy then.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jul 25 2016, 06:00 PM)
Hahaha.. That would take a few thousands subscribers to be unhappy then.
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Im pretty sure there are thousands who are unhappy tongue.gif Since early of the year was the iPhone's plan subscription.
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QUOTE(Azurika @ Jul 25 2016, 05:37 PM)
Here is a tip. Make a huge rant and if your lucky, you get their CEO to appear on Video for 3 mins and revise things for you, like what happen in Maxis biggrin.gif
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wah very good idea.

another maxis fiasco devil.gif
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Jul 25 2016, 05:23 PM)
Damn.. I am tired of repeating myself..
Like I said.. I am not comparing my plan with another non device plan...I am comparing APPLE TO APPLE..
My RM108 postpaid is a device plan... the same as RM68 device plan currently offered with 6GB while mine is 5GB...
I signed the contract... I did not say they are in breach of contract... but their business ethics is SHIT.. it's a fact when a customer signed with you earlier but you decided to screw him and not giving him what he actually deserve..
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Basically it isn't DiGi's fault that you signed a contract and took a discount over the phone. I paid RM250 to get out of my DiGi iPhone contract, so that I can have unlimited calls smile.gif

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post Jul 26 2016, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jul 25 2016, 03:42 PM)
Its was never a case of getting out of the contract. Just wanted to change the package. Btw, do you know that companies lines are all tied up to 2 years contract whether you like it or not? Get your facts right first.  shakehead.gif
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Your contract says u pay this much monthly for this telco service,data plus call,and your phone. Phone sudak dapat. 2 months later realise ur package not competitive. Make noise. Then the next time you buy house you better tell bank their offer is not competitive after you sign the offer letter. You will still want to remain with the bank,but you want them to revise their package. Same bank they hv the obligation to revise for u right? Tapi lock out period is 5 years like what you have signed in contract. You go complain? Make noise?
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jul 24 2016, 03:54 PM)
Digi treat their customers on contract like crap. When you sign the contract, you are selling your soul to them. To change your package, you would need to terminate your contract which means paying a penalty for it. If not, you can dream on for them to upgrade your current package.
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Cant wait for my CONtract to end in Dec...
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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Jul 26 2016, 04:37 PM)
Your contract says u pay this much monthly for this telco service,data plus call,and your phone. Phone sudak dapat. 2 months later realise ur package not competitive. Make noise. Then the next time you buy house you better tell bank their offer is not competitive after you sign the offer letter. You will still want to remain with the bank,but you want them to revise their package. Same bank they hv the obligation to revise for u right? Tapi lock out period is 5 years like what you have signed in contract. You go complain? Make noise?
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