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post Jan 13 2007, 12:22 AM

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yaya...this gal busy with her asignment.......pls let her to explain
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post Jan 13 2007, 12:27 AM

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To those who have on going dispute with Clareen,

Im not siding anyone here, but i personally know her, and YES i can clarify that she's in overseas now and she'll be back by 17 January

However you may PM me to further discuss about the things that she still owing you.
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post Jan 13 2007, 01:07 AM

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the facts should be,...if you want to do business,..do it right,...seller indicate urgency like shezzar,....she reply x amount,...shezzar bank in,...now have to wait till 18th to get or later,...

its not a matter of busy or exam,...or even if she is a chun chick for that matter,..

business is business,....she online and update thread,...why cannot at least inform shezzar that she may not be able to send in time,...

as for zeroize,....how come can send to rawang??...

if soo busy ,...concentrate on study first,..later graduate then do business,...

chmpion of facts


Edited by Altie. Reason: non relevant issues.


This post has been edited by altie: Jan 13 2007, 02:02 AM
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post Jan 13 2007, 02:04 AM

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Please stay on topic. Otherwise, I will close this topic until the 17th. Viking? If you think that is a good option, by all means. I leave this thread for you to keep track, since you know the accused personally.
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post Jan 13 2007, 04:01 AM

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IMHO, since she knows that she needs to go for a holidays, pls at least get all her business done before she goes. She might don't understand how urgent can a buyer be. Please be fair to the buyer, though we know that this isn't a con case but at least a notification to the buyer is important to at least to get the notified of their ordered items.


As for the higher ranking user in LYN, please be fair to others, yes u know her personally, but it's her responsibility to look over her business. If she has time to reply and update her thread, why not spend some time to reply this pathetic buyer Please be fair to everyone.
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post Jan 13 2007, 04:48 AM

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QUOTE(altie @ Jan 13 2007, 02:04 AM)
Please stay on topic. Otherwise, I will close this topic until the 17th. Viking? If you think that is a good option, by all means. I leave this thread for you to keep track, since you know the accused personally.
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Thanks mate, i'll be following up any dispute against Clareen.

Ok guys, we are here to solve the dispute in a proper manner, not to rant nor bla out your personal experience which you can do so @ Kopitiam

Back to the topic, Clareen is in overseas now for business purpose until 17th of January 2007 and she's not running away. I repeat, she's NOT running away after receiving money. Whether she accidentally forgot or purposely forgot to post, i'll leave it to Clareen to answer when she's back to malaysia on 17th.

Currently the 2 who are involved are

1. SheZZar - yet to receive his k750's Screen Protector
2. Zeroize - yet to receive his 2gb MiniSD Memory Card

SheZZar
***I'll post you a k750 Screen Protector. Kindly PM me your
- Full Name
- Contact Number
- Address

Zeroize
***I'll try to contact Clareen asap to check about the status of your 2gb MiniSD as i suspect that she might have posted to the wrong address. I'll update this thread whenever i have any news.

Clareen
***I'll deal with you personally when you are back later.

Anymore unsolved issue with Clareen? Reply to this thread with all the details. I'll follow up and try to reply here to make it as transparent as possible. Also, i don't need any flamethrowers around to make this thread messy. Lets solve it appropriately. Lastly, im not siding anyone and im here just to offer a solution for parties involved asap.

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post Jan 13 2007, 06:05 AM

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QUOTE(nightmarej4ck @ Jan 13 2007, 12:10 AM)
she is a universiti student i guess bus with her exam again i guess ...
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QUOTE(cky6667 @ Jan 13 2007, 12:22 AM)
yaya...this gal busy with her asignment.......pls let her to explain
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Im willin to listen to her explanation. But the fact remains the same which is if she is so called "busy" why isit that she can constantly update her thread but not get back to a simple PM like mine? No matter whether she has alot of positive feedback, one rotten apple can already spoil the whole basket. For that matter, i can't really trust her as a seller anymore.

QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Jan 13 2007, 12:27 AM)
To those who have on going dispute with Clareen,

Im not siding anyone here, but i personally know her, and YES i can clarify that she's in overseas now and she'll be back by 17 January

However you may PM me to further discuss about the things that she still owing you.
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Yes i noe that she's in overseas but according to her thread she left on the 12th. So how bout from the 9th to 12? i dun think its irrational to jus take 30min off to go to the post office and deliver the goods rite? furthermore she COD's at MV. Im sure there is a post office there and she could have gone there to post it. But the fact that she did not do so.

QUOTE(hellokitty @ Jan 13 2007, 01:07 AM)
the facts should be,...if you want to do business,..do it right,...seller indicate urgency like shezzar,....she reply x amount,...shezzar bank in,...now have to wait till 18th to get or later,...

its not a matter of busy or exam,...or even if she is a chun chick for that matter,..

business is business,....she online and update thread,...why cannot at least inform shezzar that she may not be able to send in time,...

as for zeroize,....how come can send to rawang??...

if soo busy ,...concentrate on study first,..later graduate then do business,...

chmpion of facts


Edited by Altie. Reason: non relevant issues.

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My sentiments as well....all im asking for is an explanation from her end and how she wants to make good.

QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Jan 13 2007, 04:48 AM)
Thanks mate, i'll be following up any dispute against Clareen.

Ok guys, we are here to solve the dispute in a proper manner, not to rant nor bla out your personal experience which you can do so @ Kopitiam

Back to the topic, Clareen is  in overseas now for business purpose until 17th of January 2007 and she's not running away. I repeat, she's NOT running away after receiving money. Whether she accidentally forgot or purposely forgot to post, i'll leave it to Clareen to answer when she's back to malaysia on 17th.

Currently the 2 who are involved are

1. SheZZar - yet to receive his k750's Screen Protector
2. Zeroize - yet to receive his 2gb MiniSD Memory Card

SheZZar
***I'll post you a k750 Screen Protector under my own name at my own cost. Kindly PM me your
- Full Name
- Contact Number
- Address

Zeroize
***I'll try to contact Clareen asap to check about the status of your 2gb MiniSD as i suspect that she might have posted to the wrong address. I'll update this thread whenever i have any news.

Clareen
***I'll deal with you personally when you are back later.

Anymore unsolved issue with Clareen? Reply to this thread with all the details. I'll follow up and try to reply here to make it as transparent as possible. Also, i don't need any flamethrowers around to make this thread messy. Lets solve it appropriately. Lastly, im not siding anyone and im here just to offer a solution for parties involved asap.

Regards
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I will forward you my details to you however, i will not close this topic as i still wish to hear her explanation and expect an apology from her end.

SheZZaR
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post Jan 13 2007, 10:36 AM

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no doubt vikingw2k is A++ seller, always update the customer with latest info, even personally called customer by phone.

While for clareen, after i banked in and PM her with my shipping address, no respond at all, until 5 days later i asked her why i haven't receive the item, she gave me a tracking ID which sent to the wrong address and i don't even know whether that really is my tracking ID or the other buyer's item.

Even if she came out and solve this, there will be no second time for me to deal with her.

That is what i got to say.
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post Jan 13 2007, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Shezzar @ Jan 13 2007, 06:05 AM)
I will forward you my details to you however, i will not close this topic as i still wish to hear her explanation and expect an apology from her end.
Thanks for being understanding, received your details via PM. I'll update you once i've posted the k750 Screen Protector to you

QUOTE(Zeroize @ Jan 13 2007, 10:36 AM)
no doubt vikingw2k is  A++ seller, always update the customer with latest info, even personally called customer by phone.

While for clareen, after i banked in and PM her with my shipping address, no respond at all, until 5 days later i asked her why i haven't receive the item, she gave me a tracking ID which sent to the wrong address and i don't even know whether that really is my tracking ID or the other buyer's item.

Even if she came out and solve this, there will be no second time for me to deal with her.

That is what i got to say.
I'll update you once i've contacted Clareen. Thanks for your patience. smile.gif
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post Jan 13 2007, 01:55 PM

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I am writing this,....because my thread above was "DELETED" due to lack of relevance
according to MOD .-Altie

What i said b4 deletion was; " From VIKINGW2K reaction,...it is quite obvious that he is wearing his heart on his sleeve and he should not let that cloud his judgement,..."

reason is,...why was it deleted???

Does anyone here feel that WHY is viking w2k is getting personally involved like,..eg,...sending the k750 screen protector to shezzar....

vikingw2k,...yes accordingly you say she is your personal friend,....
and i do strongly believe friends help friends

but AS a Trade Enforcer,....one has to be objective,...and Enforce the Trade,.

eg. If I am a judge and my friend rapes a girl and he ends up in my court,...do i simply let him go because he is my friend,....what would people think

I hope that after this statement all Trade Enforcers,..pls be objective in your judgement call
and hopefully i do not and up being a "grudge" in your minds.///

vikingw2k,....there are many other ways of impressing a girl,..this is not one of them.///....

pssstt....why not also send a 2gb mspd card to zeroize under your name and cost??

Imagine viking,..if you get yourself involved here by sending the screen protector to shezzar,...you are setting a precedent...of immense consequence,....IMAGINE in the future,....anybody that is the friend of a Trade Enforcer would bring up this topic and if lets say person A knows Trade Enforcer B,....and person A got cheated or Scammed of money or goods,...he goes to Trade Enforcer B his friend,...and he says,...

remember the time that vikingw2k covered for the mistakes of his friend clareen ??
i want you to pay XYZ amount that i was cheated because mods are ALLOWED to get personally involved,....

and from there i becomes like in court cases where a lawyer will bring up past defence cases of "in the judgment of Clareen VS Shezzar" a moderator fulfilled the role of the seller by sending the item that the seller did not send,.....Therefore in all future judgements,...all moderators friends are entitled to compensation from their respective Trade Enforcers in accordance the same treatment,..
(scarsm#) only if they are a chun chick,....

PLEASE do not invisible or delete this post as i would like a few moderators to come and comment on this.

This post has been edited by hellokitty: Jan 19 2007, 11:52 PM
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post Jan 13 2007, 02:31 PM

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lol....plz dont be immature =.=
get a life ...
viking is trying to help his friend here but not to cover his friend mistake
she still need to come here to explain after his trip
u dont have common sense at all

u never read the rules here dont you =.=
gosh.....
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post Jan 13 2007, 02:53 PM

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I am not arguing personally against vikingw2k,...it is just that as a Trade Enforcer,..he is setting a PRECEDENT,..that may change the way lowyat net is in the future,..

1) how does zeroise feel,...shezzar gets compensated,...what about him,...

2) if in the future clareen forgets to send the item,..can the buyer claim from vikingw2k??

3) can all buyers get compensation from the moderator if the moderator is the seller friend (whether monetary or goods) if the seller does not deliver,...etc,..make good on word

ahbenggay./// pls read properly b4 posting,...yur reply sounds a lot immature then mine

This post has been edited by hellokitty: Jan 19 2007, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(hellokitty @ Jan 13 2007, 01:55 PM)
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vikingw2k,...yes accordingly you say she is your personal friend,....
and i do strongly believe friends help friends

but AS a Moderator,....one has to be objective,...

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vikingw2k,....there are many other ways of impressing a girl,..this is not one of them.///....

snip

Imagine viking,..if you get yourself involved here by sending the screen protector to shezzar,...you are setting a precedent...of immense consequence,....IMAGINE in the future,....anybody that is the friend of the moderator would bring up this topic and if lets say person A knows moderator B,....and person A got cheated or Scammed of money or goods,...he goes to moderator B his friend,...and he says,...

remember the time that vikingw2k covered for  the mistakes of his friend clareen ??
i want you to pay XYZ amount that i was cheated because mods are ALLOWED to get personally involved,....

and from there i becomes like in court cases where a lawyer will bring up past defence cases of "in the judgment of Clareen VS Shezzar" a moderator fulfilled the role of the seller by sending the item that the seller did not send,.....Therefore in all future judgements,...all moderators friends are entitled to compensation from their respective moderators in accordance the same treatment,..
(scarsm#) only if they are a chun chick,....

PLEASE do not invisible or delete this post as i would like a few moderators to come and comment on this.
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Let's get a few things straight.

1) Viking is an elite not a mod. There's a difference, elites are the same as everyone else, they have no moderating powers or responsibilities.

2) Don't use personal attacks on viking to make a point, again he is not a mod, what good does it do you to say "vikingw2k,....there are many other ways of impressing a girl,..this is not one of them.///...."? If you have a legit complaint, make your complaint and leave the immature crap out of it.

3) If a mod does defend a "cheater", you should use the little REPORT button and report it. It will be handled by the admins, mods and staff.

Btw, it would be alot easier to read your post if you'd use less fullstops(.) at every pause.


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QUOTE(hellokitty @ Jan 13 2007, 02:53 PM)
I am not arguing personally against vikingw2k,...it is just that as a moderator,..he is setting a PRECEDENT,..that may change the way lowyat net is in the future,..

1) how does zeroise feel,...shezzar gets compensated,...what about him,...

2) if in the future clareen forgets to send the item,..can the buyer claim from vikingw2k??

3) can all buyers get compensation from the moderator if the moderator is the seller friend (whether monetary or goods) if the seller does not deliver,...etc,..make good on word

ahbenggay./// pls read properly b4 posting,...yur reply sounds a lot immature then mine
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1. Doesn't matter.

2. No.

3. No.

Reasons: Like what ahbenggay said.
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post Jan 13 2007, 03:03 PM

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***Forwarded PM from hellokitty to vikingw2k
QUOTE(hellokitty @ Jan 13 2007, 02:47 PM)
i am not arguing personally with you,...its just that what you are doing will effect the whole of lowyat net in the future,...if u not understand pls pm me,..

also if you send the screen protector to shezzar,..any future trade with clareen if she forget to send will ask you to compensate ,.....also like how zeroise feel now,...very unfair
I guess you misunderstood.

If i were to cover her up, i might as well
- answer everything for her rather then telling everybody that she's away and wait her back to answer by herself
- post the 2gb MiniSD to Zeroize straight away without checking with Clareen

My main concern goes to the TS(SheZZar), which is why im proposing a solution for him . that's to send him the SP since he need it sooo urgently rather then leaving him to wait till Clareen is back on 17th. Please understand his feelings too.

For Zeroize case, I've mentioned that i'll help him to update Clareen's status. (not posting him the 2gb MiniSD by myself)

We are here to reach a good solution for TS and Zeroize, do you have any suggestions to solve this problem now rather then leaving the TS and Zeroize to wait till 17 Jan?

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***btw one question to SheZZar and Zeroize
Did you rang Clareen up to ask about the status of your goods when she failed to reply you PM?

This post has been edited by vikingw2k: Jan 13 2007, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(hellokitty @ Jan 13 2007, 01:55 PM)
I am writing this,....because my thread above was "DELETED" due to lack of relevance
according to MOD .-Altie

What i said b4 deletion was; " From VIKINGW2K reaction,...it is quite obvious that he is wearing his heart on his sleeve and he should not let that cloud his judgement,..."

reason is,...why was it deleted???

Does anyone here feel that WHY is viking w2k is getting personally involved like,..eg,...sending the k750 screen protector to shezzar....

vikingw2k,...yes accordingly you say she is your personal friend,....
and i do strongly believe friends help friends

but AS a Moderator,....one has to be objective,...

eg. If I am a judge and my friend rapes a girl and he ends up in my court,...do i simply let him go because he is my friend,....what would people think

I hope that after this statement all moderators,..pls be objective in your judgement call
and hopefully i do not and up being a "grudge" in your minds.///

vikingw2k,....there are many other ways of impressing a girl,..this is not one of them.///....

pssstt....why not also send a 2gb mspd card to zeroize under your name and cost??

Imagine viking,..if you get yourself involved here by sending the screen protector to shezzar,...you are setting a precedent...of immense consequence,....IMAGINE in the future,....anybody that is the friend of the moderator would bring up this topic and if lets say person A knows moderator B,....and person A got cheated or Scammed of money or goods,...he goes to moderator B his friend,...and he says,...

remember the time that vikingw2k covered for  the mistakes of his friend clareen ??
i want you to pay XYZ amount that i was cheated because mods are ALLOWED to get personally involved,....

and from there i becomes like in court cases where a lawyer will bring up past defence cases of "in the judgment of Clareen VS Shezzar" a moderator fulfilled the role of the seller by sending the item that the seller did not send,.....Therefore in all future judgements,...all moderators friends are entitled to compensation from their respective moderators in accordance the same treatment,..
(scarsm#) only if they are a chun chick,....

PLEASE do not invisible or delete this post as i would like a few moderators to come and comment on this.
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i am posting here because you asked me to give comments on ur post. and u were very rude when i replied u in a very gentle manner smile.gif

yo see, from my perspective, u arent directly involved in this disute, and u should not interfear, i mean think bout it, what would be the point?

see, from my point of perspective, it seems like u are try to throw him off as "trade inforcer"


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hi APOLOGIES around,...my eyesight must be going,.....it seems that ALTIE is a moderator and viking is not a moderator,.....duh,.....keep imagining the elite tag is a mod tag,(my fault on that one),......

but still quite irritated by the deletion by altie,..

okok,...what the mod says are okiez,....

aiiihhh,....vikingw2k why you no tell me you not mod when i pm and ask you to remove my name from the minor trade offenders list,...
it was from there that i stopped looking at his tag and believed in my mind he was a mod,...

final : if a moderato were to be doing what vikingw2k was doing then i suppose i may be correct but since viking is not a moderator,...he is not held to the same virtues as i hold our mods to,..

I am editing the 2-3 of my above posts from the word moderatoe to trade enforcer
just to be transparent

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oi shezzar.. clareen is my fren.. beri muka can ? she's in overseas now.. it's not that she run away.. she same course with me.. how busy she is i understand.. i hope u too.. when she come back i get the stuff and send it directly to ur house how ?

just a small misunderstood.. she reply PM and thread slow.. chill man

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Hellokitty.

Your problem is with me. You should have PMed me about this. I would have explained to you why I edited your post. Enough of this. PM me your concerns and I will work them out with you.
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can I just ask Clareen for refund?

I just got my 2Gb miniSD at local store. 2 weeks is really too long to wait.

vikingw2k, thanks for your concern and help. Hope you can contact her real soon and solve this.

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