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vikingw2k
post Jan 13 2007, 12:27 AM

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To those who have on going dispute with Clareen,

Im not siding anyone here, but i personally know her, and YES i can clarify that she's in overseas now and she'll be back by 17 January

However you may PM me to further discuss about the things that she still owing you.
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post Jan 13 2007, 04:48 AM

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QUOTE(altie @ Jan 13 2007, 02:04 AM)
Please stay on topic. Otherwise, I will close this topic until the 17th. Viking? If you think that is a good option, by all means. I leave this thread for you to keep track, since you know the accused personally.
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Thanks mate, i'll be following up any dispute against Clareen.

Ok guys, we are here to solve the dispute in a proper manner, not to rant nor bla out your personal experience which you can do so @ Kopitiam

Back to the topic, Clareen is in overseas now for business purpose until 17th of January 2007 and she's not running away. I repeat, she's NOT running away after receiving money. Whether she accidentally forgot or purposely forgot to post, i'll leave it to Clareen to answer when she's back to malaysia on 17th.

Currently the 2 who are involved are

1. SheZZar - yet to receive his k750's Screen Protector
2. Zeroize - yet to receive his 2gb MiniSD Memory Card

SheZZar
***I'll post you a k750 Screen Protector. Kindly PM me your
- Full Name
- Contact Number
- Address

Zeroize
***I'll try to contact Clareen asap to check about the status of your 2gb MiniSD as i suspect that she might have posted to the wrong address. I'll update this thread whenever i have any news.

Clareen
***I'll deal with you personally when you are back later.

Anymore unsolved issue with Clareen? Reply to this thread with all the details. I'll follow up and try to reply here to make it as transparent as possible. Also, i don't need any flamethrowers around to make this thread messy. Lets solve it appropriately. Lastly, im not siding anyone and im here just to offer a solution for parties involved asap.

Regards
-VK-

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post Jan 13 2007, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Shezzar @ Jan 13 2007, 06:05 AM)
I will forward you my details to you however, i will not close this topic as i still wish to hear her explanation and expect an apology from her end.
Thanks for being understanding, received your details via PM. I'll update you once i've posted the k750 Screen Protector to you

QUOTE(Zeroize @ Jan 13 2007, 10:36 AM)
no doubt vikingw2k is  A++ seller, always update the customer with latest info, even personally called customer by phone.

While for clareen, after i banked in and PM her with my shipping address, no respond at all, until 5 days later i asked her why i haven't receive the item, she gave me a tracking ID which sent to the wrong address and i don't even know whether that really is my tracking ID or the other buyer's item.

Even if she came out and solve this, there will be no second time for me to deal with her.

That is what i got to say.
I'll update you once i've contacted Clareen. Thanks for your patience. smile.gif
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post Jan 13 2007, 03:03 PM

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***Forwarded PM from hellokitty to vikingw2k
QUOTE(hellokitty @ Jan 13 2007, 02:47 PM)
i am not arguing personally with you,...its just that what you are doing will effect the whole of lowyat net in the future,...if u not understand pls pm me,..

also if you send the screen protector to shezzar,..any future trade with clareen if she forget to send will ask you to compensate ,.....also like how zeroise feel now,...very unfair
I guess you misunderstood.

If i were to cover her up, i might as well
- answer everything for her rather then telling everybody that she's away and wait her back to answer by herself
- post the 2gb MiniSD to Zeroize straight away without checking with Clareen

My main concern goes to the TS(SheZZar), which is why im proposing a solution for him . that's to send him the SP since he need it sooo urgently rather then leaving him to wait till Clareen is back on 17th. Please understand his feelings too.

For Zeroize case, I've mentioned that i'll help him to update Clareen's status. (not posting him the 2gb MiniSD by myself)

We are here to reach a good solution for TS and Zeroize, do you have any suggestions to solve this problem now rather then leaving the TS and Zeroize to wait till 17 Jan?

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***btw one question to SheZZar and Zeroize
Did you rang Clareen up to ask about the status of your goods when she failed to reply you PM?

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post Jan 13 2007, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(hellokitty @ Jan 13 2007, 03:59 PM)
aiiihhh,....vikingw2k why you no tell me you not mod when i pm and ask you to remove my name from the minor trade offenders list,...
it was from there that i stopped looking at his tag and believed in my mind he was a mod,...

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Im just a small elite dude with extra trade enforcer tag not a Moderator. But that doesn't mean that i will turn you down when you made a report to me about your Minor Offenders Removal thinggy,

hellokitty, I've made it very clear to u
- I've told you to open a thread in TZ Dispute Corner yourself, ask whoever who has any unsolved dispute with you to come in and solve it with you peacefully yourself.
- You kept asking me who are the others who bla about you. I dont think it's necessary as you were blacklisted for the deal with Seng007, so just settle the dispute with him and you'll get your name removed from the M/O list.
- Finally you got your dispute solved yesterday and pm-ed me about it, and i've personally pm-ed se7en to help me to remove your nick from M/O list instead of editing the Minor Offenders List myself.

Anyway lets rest the case. All we wanted to see now is to solve this dispute asap and i'll leave it to Clareen to explain everything when she's back to Malaysia later on.

QUOTE(Zeroize @ Jan 13 2007, 05:29 PM)
can I just ask Clareen for refund?

I just got my 2Gb miniSD at local store. 2 weeks is really too long to wait.
I'll propose to her when i can get her through and see what she can do about it.

QUOTE(Zeroize @ Jan 13 2007, 05:29 PM)
vikingw2k, thanks for your concern and help. Hope you can contact her real soon and solve this.
No prob, received your sms just now when i was sleeping

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post Jan 13 2007, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(Shezzar @ Jan 13 2007, 07:47 PM)
Hellokitty i understand your sentiments and i thank you for it but im sorry to say that the mods and vikingw2k has made a strong point. And vikingw2k is doing his/her best to settle this up.
Appreciates that. By the way, just wondering did you called Clareen's phone number when she failed to reply you via PM?
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post Jan 19 2007, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jan 19 2007, 08:14 PM)
if Moderator A doesn't take action, complain to Moderator B, C, etc. Last resort, if no action taken, then only you voice out and name them here.
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if a Moderator doesn't take action or biased, complain to Admins or Staff, Last resort, PM se7en

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post Jan 19 2007, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jan 19 2007, 08:34 PM)
I guess it's not that extreme until we should send a PM to se7en  sweat.gif  By the way, Vikingw2k, did you manage to locate the whereabouts of Clareen yet? She's still in Japan or what? No lah, I'm just asking, I guess everyone is eager to hear from her.
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I've tried to reach her number, and being told that she's not back yet

sunauto, alienfighter, suiteng - just a humble suggestion here

Have you tried to send your battery and phone to Sony Ericsson Service Centre to verify whether they are genuine or not? I believe SESC's staff will have the final say whether it's fake or genuine.

Below are Sony Ericsson's Service Centre addresses and contact numbers around KL
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Hope this helps.

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post Jan 19 2007, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jan 19 2007, 09:22 PM)
Firstly, I'm from Penang but don't worry, I know where the service centre is and secondly, I'm working and I can't simply leave the office by telling my boss, I need to take half day leave because I need to check with the service centre whether my battery is ori or not. I'm free tomorrow but since it's a public holiday, I guess the service centre is closed. I'm not sure about Alienfighter and Sui Teng, maybe they're working too like myself, you can't assume that we're college kids. If I can do that, I will bring it to the service centre but as a seller, she should know how to answer such questions since they're not technical in nature. The battery that I got wasn't faulty or anything, the standby time was great and it was brand new when I got my hp but I guess after seeing pictures that it resembles the AP battery, I guess I got the right to ask about this.
Im just suggesting an alternative way since she's not around and cant contact her. Hope you dont misunderstood that im ordering you to send it to service centre instead of sending to her. Yes you may send back to her, or for faster reply, you may try my suggestion.

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post Jan 20 2007, 03:37 AM

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QUOTE(6GDominator @ Jan 20 2007, 03:33 AM)
oops. sorry man. i am using the W810i but the battery has the same model right? if yes then i think it is fake one gua. sad.gif
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w810's battery and k800's battery is different
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QUOTE(Bigfoot-X @ Jan 20 2007, 03:38 AM)
I will try to get some pics of my AP battery this weekend and post it up, it looks like the Battery C in the K800i forums. The one with the square white sticker and the little holes on the sides. I just can't find where the digital camera is.
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You mean Battery C from this pic which i posted in k800 forum?


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QUOTE(Bigfoot-X @ Jan 20 2007, 04:36 AM)
Come to think of it - do we even know now which of the 2 types is original and fake? I guess the only way is for someone to verify with the official Sony Ericsson centre because there seems to be alot of confusion here.
The best way, IMHO as i've mentioned earlier is to send to SE Service Centre rather than making your own assumptions whether they are genuine or not. I believe SE Staff will have the last say whether they are genuine or not.

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Even viking who's a seller can't be sure? rclxub.gif
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Are you saying that i cant identify which battery out of the 3 which i've posted is genuine or not?

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post Jan 22 2007, 05:45 AM

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Some facts about the PM Message and Pos Malaysia + Answer for Battery Quiz


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Finally we move on to the mini battery research which i've made.

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Answer : Battery A = FAKE, Battery B = FAKE, Battery C= AP Battery


here's another Battery D = 900mAh, Made In Japan, BST-33
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How about another one from Sony Ericsson's Website here?
900mAh, Made in Japan BST-33 - Same spec with my Battery D

next, we move on to one of our forummers post
QUOTE(csclinks @ Dec 29 2006, 03:53 AM)
These r the 2 different batteries between mine and my bro's K750i, but 2 phone r under same AP distributor :

Mine                                                                                         
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My Bro's
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Which one is ori and fake?!? Why not giving the same battery even under the same distributor???
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From here we can see that even if you buy from the same distributor doesn't guarantee that you'll get the same battery design(though it's not BST-33 which we are discussing but we can use this as example).

also try going through this thread Sony Ericsson BST-37 Battery" and you'll know that nobody can really sure 100% and point out which battery is Original or AP or Fake by just comparing the design. After 25 pages of discussion, we still hold on to the "Looking at the Sticker Theory".

Conclusion :

After looking at so many batteries design, we can notice that, they are a wide varieties of batteries design available outside there. The one that we bought might look like any of the above ABCD and E(might be another design). Looking at the answers from my quiz, some forrumers said, how come Battery C looks the same with my Midland battery? How come it's like my AP battery? and so....

I gathered almost 10 piece of batteries(with the aid of my friend + 4 Batteries of mine) and YES, their design do varies depending on the batch when it was produced. Thus we are unable to judge whether it's genuine or not by just looking at the design itself. and still, the only way to verify whether they are Original Batteries or not, is via

1. sending back to the AP supplier to check with them (for AP sets)
2. bring to Authorized Service Centre to verify(for Midland, Thorus, T-Choice)

and after the verification at the respective distributors, the decision whether to trust the distributor's word or not lies on us.

Take for instance,

We suspect that our Credit Card is fake, and we send it to the respective bank and ask them to verify for us. They checked and told us it's not fake. and if we still don't trust them, i believe that it's considered "personal doubt" and the only way to clear that "personal doubt" is to "trust them" rather then making own assumption and end up with endless doubt.

P/S : One small problem which i encountered whenever i use Fake battery for my k800 is that, i can't fully charge the battery to 100%, it'll stays at 20% or sometimes lower than that. At first i thought it was that particular battery that has that problem, i've sent back to claim warranty and they replaced another battery for me. I tested and yet it's still the same, after i got it replaced by 3 times. I finally went to another supplier and get a fake battery to test it out. I got the same result too. Im not sure whether anybody who bought fake battery have encountered this issue or not.

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