You wanna see my BST-15 ori battery? Okaylah, here are the photos below, in it's original packing. Yeah, still a virgin and inside the box. I bought it from Charlie Communication, an authorised SE dealer in Penang. I guess any of guys from Penang will know lah so I think I can skip the intro part.





The SE service centre is not open today in Penang but I'll be taking my two batteries along with me and show them to Charlie and I have a strong feeling that my BST-37 is a fake one as none of my friends who bought their phones in Penang has a bettery like mine, whether they're using Midland or AP sets. As for BST-33, I have no comments because it could be an original battery but maybe not from Midland.

I have actually wanted to order a spare battery from Clareen, BST-33 and BST-37, she told me none of the batteries are in stock, I've waited from the day I bought my K800i (same day as Alienfighter) till now, she still told me no stock at all whether AP or Midland original batteries, she quoted me RM60 for AP original and RM80 for Midland original. When I asked around in Penang, a number of reputable shops have the original batteries in stock. I'll probably ask Charlie Communication to show me their original BST-33 if they have on in stock so that I can compare it. KL is bigger than Penang, it doesn't make sense why all the suppliers don't have stock for original SE batteries, the batteries are not made in Penang mah, why we have it here and please, they're not fakes, if you've been to Gurney Plaza, Penang, these authorised SE dealers don't sell AP or fake stuff.

Ermm..... Viking, how about you? Do you have any problems getting original Midland batteries like BST-33 and BST-37? Just curious. I was surprised that Clareen's price for a Midland battery is only RM80, she told that she's selling at cost price. It could be true but I dunno, however, most shops are selling BST-33 around RM168 (best price is around RM160 the most) and BST-37 at RM160 (best price is around RM155 the most). I have asked around a few and they told me even got no stock, they can order it for me within 3 days from KL. I just kept quiet and was wondering why Clareen is having difficulties to order ori batteries for me. Of course, this is not a dispute, just wanna share this with all of you since most of the forumers are based in KL, maybe you can give me your feedback, are original batteries that hard to buy in KL?

AP user don't face any problem? Aiyo, how about my K618i and K610i leh? Both AP sets and the batteries are questionable, doesn't look like the ones from Midland or AP. I guess Clareen's suppliers are dishosnest, mesti ada hantu lah, switching all of our stuff. AP set also cheaper by a bit mah but give me a Cap Ayam battery is too much because an original Midland battery costs as much as RM160 for BST-37 so if I add this amount to the price I've paid for my AP set, I might as well get a Midland set in Penang and claim the free bluetooth? Right or not? In the end, I'm not getting a good deal after all.


There's a possibility because it could be rejects that has been refurbished to working state. Or the phone is not brand new, could be a display set so they simply find a box and bungkus it for you, that's why the serial numbers don't match. Just my assumption okay.

This post has been edited by sunauto: Jan 20 2007, 11:49 AM

i never knew from a simple screen protector dispute could end up into a 123 posts dispute. Anyway, as for those who are worried of their battery originality, i stand by vikingw2k the best opinion and proof you can get to certify your batteries are from SonyEricsson Service Centres. Till that assumption is proven with evidence, lets not speculate here and there.

As for Clareen she's just a middle man where she gets the fones from her supplier and sells it. So the main culprit isnt really her but more to the supplier or where she is getting the fones.

Its not suprising that KL being so big there isn't any stock. Like for example W900i when it was in the market had very little stock for Ori and AP sets. It really depends on demand for tat certain model/accessories.

SheZZaR

Well Shezzar, the dispute is not only involving your screen protector, how about the memory card. We can bring our battery to the service centre but I can't bring my BST-37 to the service because that's an AP set but for after comparing the battery with my friends, I have a reason to believe it is a fake. Sometimes, we don't have to proof everything single thing here because as a seller, he or she should be prepared to answer any questions thrown at him or her. I know Clareen gets her stuff from someone else but she must be aware that my BST-37 doesn't look like a single bit like the Midland or AP battery and I'm not lying, have attached every single picture here for your everyone to see. I have wasted a lot of time to upload the pictures here and for the BST-33, I guess I wouldn't be taking leave just to go to the service centre, if the rest is not free to go, then I guess Clareen could probably check with the service centre, after all we have uploaded all the pictures here. I mean sometimes we can't spoonfeed every here, the seller should exist to prove the battery is genuine.

Most of the handphone sellers in LYN couldn't even prove the genuity of the batteries that they're selling, when I just asked them a simple question, Midland or AP ori battery, then picture please? None of the sellers could provide these pictures because they know if they're fakes, they will be held responsible, it's a risky business to sell batteries and sometimes, I guess I'm better off getting them an authorised SE dealer for a peace of mind, might be expensive but guaranteed to be 100% genuine.

Anyway, I'm not giving Clareen a hard time, hope she is aware of this because as a buyer, I will feel that I'm cheated if I'm not given exactly what it should come with the handphone package. The AP phone is from Comsat and for such a reputable AP company, how could they have switched my battery to a fake one? Is it really them or Clareen's suppliers or her friend or partner changed it? Who is at fault?

yes, we are not assume that clareen is the culprit here....
i know it the supplier dirty work somehow..
but at least... we still need to know from her, how she can solve this problem..
if she can manage to settle this problem smoothly, i dont see why i will deal with her again someday....
but if this problem couldnt settle as what we want...the best for us...
i can see that, she will really get hard to doing business in LYN anymore...

For your guys information, those picture shows the BST 33/37 are really fake ones. Even there is Midland sticker (people can do wonders by using heat blower to easily remove the Midland sticker came from its original place and stick it back to fake batteries)

Original batteries have shinning layer battery cover.

AP set usually provide fakes batteries as those ori batteries being taken out and sold separately. I was lucky enough to purchase a AP set K750i with all original parts identical to was you can get from Midland. How do i know? Well i own a Midland K750i, made a comparison... Is identical and the best part the battery is ori!

vikingw2k - sorry, don't misunderstand. I'm not accusing you of anything. If you see from my posting time it was late and I just came back from work. Maybe I missed out on the line where you said that the photo that you posted was a quiz for us.

Just to clarify - why did you post the pics of the 3 different batteries again? Is it because you want us to help you identify or were you testing us (buyers) to see if we know which is original and which is fake?

Anyway, as promised, I managed to get my digicam and take pics of my battery that came with my AP set.

Here you go.

Is original battery

Alright guys, I just came back from Gurney Plaza, I spent an hour at Charlie Communication, an authorised SE dealer. He opened three brand new boxes of SE K800i (Midland set) and all three boxes came with a BST-33 950 mAh battery with a squarish white sticker (like Bigfoot-X's first picture) and even the wrapping paper is of different quality and colour than mine (not the same as Bigfoot-X's other two pictures though). It's different from Everdying's BST-33 900 mAh battery posted here earlier. He was surprised why my Midland battery was different as I told him I bought my K800i last month and he told me that his stocks were all ordered last month too for the free bluetooth promotion. I said, I really don't know. He asked me to contact Midland directly and check with them because the service centre is not the best place to ask since the battery is distributed by Midland and the service centres are not related to Midland, T-Choice or even Thorus too. The boss even showed me his original BST-33 batteries on display and yes, it's identical to the one which came with the K800i phone. I don't think the Midland battery should look different for the ones sold in Penang and KL mah, right? So, anyone can volunteer to contact Midland, ar? The boss told me that the SE service centres only look at the Midland sticker so really 'sai hei' to go there to ask them. He said if I don't believe, get a Grade 'A' Cap Ayam battery and put a Midland sticker, they'll tell you it's genuine.

As for BST-37 leh, as I've mentioned earlier, I bought two AP sets so most definitely, I shouldn't expect it to look like the one from Midland but again, he searched for a few AP ones and nope, the battery is different from mine, he said mine could be a fake one or a recond one and don't forget I did mention that the battery was already in my phone when I received it unlike my K800i. I told him, okay, okay ........ stop telling me lah, I guess I'll get the two ori batteries from him after CNY. Won't be trusting anyone in LYN selling SE ori batteries liao because the prices are too good to be true sometimes, it's safer to get from an authorized SE dealer, at least I'm assured of the real thing. I guess if you look at my BST-15 ori battery posted here earlier, I don't think anyone will say it's a fake because it's not.

Anyway, what happened, has happened. I don't think Clareen can demand another replacement for the batteries, I'm sure her suppliers will come out with 101 excuses. They'll sure say that you didn't check everything before leaving so that's your fault, not ours. Some sellers in KL are very lan si, my friend bought a PSP from Sungei Wang, not only the battery is fake, screen protector also fake and the earphones are also fake too, it was cheaper by RM100. How to argue with the seller? Nothing to argue lah because in the first place, my friend just paid for it and leave. You can't hold the seller responsible for this as he can twist words and say that you have went back and swapped the accessories.

I hope Clareen will give the affected parties a proper explanation and also, don't just take handphones from your suppliers without checking, nobody can be trusted nowadays and she shouldn't assume that her suppliers are honest and reliable. As a handphone seller, he or she should check the goods properly prior selling to people. That's what I feel. I know most of you are selling handphones as a side income business, nothing wrong with that but get your stuff from trusted sources.

I'm just wondering, what do you mean by the wrapping is different? Are you referring to the silver layer around the battery?

Anyway, whilst I was looking at my battery again, I notice that the serial number printing has started to rub off! Now part of my serial number is gone

I didn't realise I was scraping against it until the wordings all came off.

Yeah the silver layer.
Serial number starting to come off??? OMG ........ what did you do? It shouldn't happen what, even for my P900i, the battery is more than 2 years and the serial number is still there, didn't fade or come off either.

as i m dealer,wanna tell u all nt all d battery will have the sticker like t choice o ori company...its up to the supplier stock d.........sometime the supplier wan to sell cheap,thn they put ap d battery inside.....

For your information i had send out the item at 10th January 2007.. But i'm so sorry that i did not reply your pm to let you know the trace number~*




From the picture shown below it prove that i haven't open your pm yet..





And same to this pm too..





I'm so sorry if i did reply your pm late.. But i'm very sure that i had reply your pm regarding to your v3x.. I would not simply delete any pm without replying it..




For your information i would like to double confirm that i had send out the item at 9 Jan 2007 at Damansara Jaya Pos Express..




You're so wrong.. It's doesnt matter about the amount of transaction.. Sometime that's alot delay that causes by Pos Laju Malaysia.. I swear I did send out at 9 Jan 2007.. It's impossible for me to send at 12 Jan as that day i'm already at my hometown and prepare to go oversea.. And this alot of people know that due to the reason i have to cancel all my deal..




So sorry for the timing.. I have been delay till 19th January in Japan.. I will upload my air ticket soon for proof..




Thanks for that!!


Lastly for SheZZar's case, all i could say is, i have posted the item on 9th January 2007, and I'm not sure what caused the delay in post office as we all know that sometimes they might have a slight delay, I would like apologize if i have miss out your PM, BUT i hope that you too can take back your words saying that im a Conwoman or what as the delay was on Post Office side

This post has been edited by Clareen: Jan 20 2007, 07:47 PM

Thanks for saying me as irresponsible seller.. For information SheZZaR did not inform me at all.. As the time he created the thread i already at KLIA..


The fact is you did not inform me at all.. I know it from Viking once i reach Malaysia..

Thanks for that.. But the fact SheZZaR did not sms me or call me to inform about this issue if he need the screen protector that urgent, why couldn't he call me instead of pm me?


So sorry for the delay i just reach Malaysia on 19th Jan 2007

How sure you're i have con 5 person?


Thanks for your donation but the fact is no matter how poor i'm i also will work hard and don need any donation from you guys..

Welcome back Clareen...so any take on the battery issues

Thanks, kindly allow me sometime to clear the mess one by one

Zeroize - allow me one days so that i can look for the tracking number of your item *p/s i'm at my hometown ipoh now*, i afraid that i have given you the wrong tracking number, your patience is much appreciated. But i'm very sure i had send your item out at 8th Jan 2007 at Bangsar Pos Office.

I hope you had read my term and condition before make your decision to purchase anything from me..

6. In case of lost of items , we will file a complaint with Postal authorities, which takes around 30-45 days for the investigations to be completed. Until this investigation is completed we cannot refund or resend a new shipment

You're so wrong.. I do not know any high ranking member in LYN at all.. I really did went oversea.. As what i mention earlier i will upload my air ticket picture soon..

Are you accusing that the Admins and Staff here are biased? You may fill in a report against them if you felt so instead of dropping your 2 cents here.

This post has been edited by Clareen: Jan 20 2007, 08:28 PM