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 INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V3<<, The Journey Continues Here!

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post Mar 24 2007, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 24 2007, 02:35 PM)
fx5900 didnt really show the performance in dx9 gaming like what we expect in 3dmark03. 98pro is a better choice.
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Its an FX architecture afterall....
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I used to have one FX5950 Ultra card before it blew lol sad.gif
The fan malfunctioned just after two months the warranty period ends. sad.gif
Those were the good old days.. now staying with Radeon 9600XT PE lol

My CPU specs - 3.0E @ stock | Asus P4P800-X | Kingston DDR400 1024MB*2 | Radeon 9600XT PE 256MB

Lol, TS can update my specs in the thread. Thx tongue.gif

S-478 rocks tongue.gif

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TS , also update my good old rig.

~P4 3.2C~Abit IC7 Max3~Gskill 2GB~X1950Pro~

my last 478 set with me......haha.

thanks TS






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post Mar 24 2007, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 24 2007, 02:35 PM)
hr05 shouldnt be a prob as it is flat and tall, not bulk up. You ever try add a fan blow on NB?? I think it may help. You wanna change the nb sink with hr05?? wink.gif

I not too extreme and nb cooling is not a big issue for me. But the nb heatsink is hotter than my xp120 headsink.  hmm.gif
fx5900 didnt really show the performance in dx9 gaming like what we expect in 3dmark03. 98pro is a better choice.
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i want to add a fan on top of the nb heatsink but i dont think it'll stay there laugh.gif

for now im not gonna change the nb heatsink yet..maybe later when i change my whole system whistling.gif

QUOTE(irangan @ Mar 24 2007, 03:00 PM)
If you wish to prolong the life of your rig, i dont get something too expensive or high end else your processor will hold back the performance of your card.

*Thinking back on my previous x1950pro on 3.4c. sad.gif

I think it is better for you to get a second hand 6600gt or new 6800xt. A better choice compare to 7600gt.

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Anyone from here going to Lan Party tomorrow? I want to see 478 rig in action, man.

*Looking for pengster. He stay nearby ss15 smile.gif
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i dint now that lan party was at SS15 blink.gif kinda late to sign up now right?anywayz you know my dad lah,as if he'll let me go to the lan party.and go there also kena malu lah laugh.gif

QUOTE(KahLooN @ Mar 24 2007, 05:58 PM)
@irangan
Im just searching for a card that can handle current game without many glitch. Just say at 1280*1024 resolution without those eye candy stuff.

Compare to your previous 1950pro, indeed the proc is bottleneck. The card itself need plenty of raw processing power if compare to 7600GT.

Regarding the 6800XT, it seems like the card is good but it is using DDR2 and yet a level behind of 7600GT.

Anyway, still deciding whether upgrading my card is worth. smile.gif
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just get a 6800GS or XT.should be able to handle all the games at that reso.i got mine cheap.new 6800GS at rm360 nia smile.gif dont need to waste too much money.haha
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QUOTE(irangan @ Mar 24 2007, 03:00 PM)
If you wish to prolong the life of your rig, i dont get something too expensive or high end else your processor will hold back the performance of your card.

*Thinking back on my previous x1950pro on 3.4c. sad.gif

I think it is better for you to get a second hand 6600gt or new 6800xt. A better choice compare to 7600gt.

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Anyone from here going to Lan Party tomorrow? I want to see 478 rig in action, man.

*Looking for pengster. He stay nearby ss15 smile.gif
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i think x1650pro, 7600gt/gs will still can be fully utilize its performance on our 478. Have think of get a 6800xt. tongue.gif as i heard that 7 series agp version have issues, just like what happened on Edministrator's 7600gs agp recently. hmm.gif

QUOTE(pengster @ Mar 24 2007, 08:19 PM)
i want to add a fan on top of the nb heatsink but i dont think it'll stay there laugh.gif
it can stay i think. haha.......get a 80mm fan and place it between your 6800gs and ultra90, find a way to hang the fan there. tongue.gif

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@raymond5105
Thanks for the support, i appreciate that. Just went through basic review, seems that the 7600GT still capable performing on the AGP platform without any serious bottlenecking.


@pengster
Still looking my eyes widely on the 7600GT. laugh.gif


@kabukiawie
What happen to Edministrator's 7600gs agp? Massive artifacts or a bad card? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 24 2007, 10:48 PM)
i think x1650pro, 7600gt/gs will still can be fully utilize its performance on our 478. Have think of get a 6800xt. tongue.gif as i heard that 7 series agp version have issues, just like what happened on Edministrator's 7600gs agp recently. hmm.gif
it can stay i think. haha.......get a 80mm fan and place it between your 6800gs and ultra90, find a way to hang the fan there. tongue.gif
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now i have a 80mm fan on my sidepanel.blowing around the gpu area and some to the mobo (i think) laugh.gif so its not too bad.

at least now with my 6800GS i can play all the games that i want.so no rush to upgrade yet tongue.gif

only thing is that when multitasking or doing heavy stuff its real slow. sad.gif

QUOTE(KahLooN @ Mar 24 2007, 11:04 PM)
@raymond5105
Thanks for the support, i appreciate that. Just went through basic review, seems that the 7600GT still capable performing on the AGP platform without any serious bottlenecking.
@pengster
Still looking my eyes widely on the 7600GT.  laugh.gif
@kabukiawie
What happen to Edministrator's 7600gs agp? Massive artifacts or a bad card? unsure.gif
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7600GT?good card..with your proc at 3Ghz should not bottleneck much. laugh.gif

however,i prefer a 256bit card.better performance.that's the thing i missed out on my 6800GS doh.gif
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7600GT AGP quite rare to get. if can get it then sure rock!

his galaxy 7600gs suddently die. luckily still under warrenty. The weird things is that he didnt clock it and use zalman fatal1ty to cool it. temp is under control. then 1 day suddently cant boot and found out that gc die. Now still RMA.

7 series agp uses an extra chipset to convert from pcie to agp. According to Edministrator, that chip was the hottest on that card. Hmm......i start to think of get 6 series like 6600gt, 6800xt etc. Just think only tongue.gif
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hehe...just wanna join the discussion but don't really know bout the stuff u all talking about... sweat.gif by the way...i've notice that kabukiawie siggy getting update from time to time...wanna hit 4GHz aa bro??? hehe... brows.gif
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not to thatextreme la. Just try to up the speed and check the stability. Now at 3.38GHz. smile.gif tonight want to loop 3dmark01 till morning.

my mobo a bit weird that when i set over 190fsb, the divider will change down to 5:4 or 3:2. Then i have to set to auto in order to get 1:1. Max speed only at 3.45GHz with 1:1 @ c2.5. its slower than 3.33GHz. doh.gif

a little bit more to 10k on my little G3 Ti200 @ stock. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(pengster @ Mar 24 2007, 11:10 PM)
however,i prefer a 256bit card.better performance.that's the thing i missed out on my 6800GS doh.gif
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Having a 256bit card of older generation doens't mean it is better than the current 128bit generation smile.gif

The most important 1 is how powerful the GPU architecture is then followup by the memory

Take the FX 59 series 256bits cards against the 6 series for example

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hm..ppl wondering on my 7600gs card, here's the issue:

1. When I first bought the card in January, it was ok, until I loaded games utilizing shaders. After running games for 30-60mins, artifacts started showing here and there and will be gone after restarting the game. Games tested: HL2, Riddick, NFSMW. Older games such as C&C: Generals runs fine for hours. Swapped 1:1 card within 3 days.

2. The 2nd card was perfect, but thinking of prolonging the life of the card, I bought better cooler for it, the Zalman FS-V7. Temp dropped from 51/67 to 42/54. Yet, I noticed the hottest part is the PCIE to AGP bridge's heatsink. Anyway, last 2 weeks, it just suddenly died on me. Now in RMA proccess, really very sad. Next time wanna think on how to mod the bridge's heatsink, coz the stock one is not so good.

That's my experience to share with you guys here. But I think a good agp card such as the 6800XT or 7300GT is a worthy buy to give a boost on our S478 system. Advantages are the shader3 support, moderate clock speeds for current games and DVI for future LCD screen if anyone wishes to upgrade from CRT to LCD.

Congrates to kabukiawie on the almost 1Ghz oc... rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Mar 25 2007, 02:12 AM)
Having a 256bit card of older generation doens't mean it is better than the current 128bit generation smile.gif

The most important 1 is how powerful the GPU architecture is then followup by the memory

Take the FX 59 series 256bits cards against the 6 series for example
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agreed. different between card generation is more obvious than different in bits. like 6600gt vs 5900, 7600gt vs 6800. Now just dont know hows the performance of 8600gt.smile.gif

QUOTE(edministrator @ Mar 25 2007, 08:22 AM)
hm..ppl wondering on my 7600gs card, here's the issue:

1. When I first bought the card in January, it was ok, until I loaded games utilizing shaders. After running games for 30-60mins, artifacts started showing here and there and will be gone after restarting the game. Games tested: HL2, Riddick, NFSMW. Older games such as C&C: Generals runs fine for hours. Swapped 1:1 card within 3 days.

2. The 2nd card was perfect, but thinking of prolonging the life of the card, I bought better cooler for it, the Zalman FS-V7. Temp dropped from 51/67 to 42/54. Yet, I noticed the hottest part is the PCIE to AGP bridge's heatsink. Anyway, last 2 weeks, it just suddenly died on me. Now in RMA proccess, really very sad. Next time wanna think on how to mod the bridge's heatsink, coz the stock one is not so good.

That's my experience to share with you guys here. But I think a good agp card such as the 6800XT or 7300GT is a worthy buy to give a boost on our S478 system. Advantages are the shader3 support, moderate clock speeds for current games and DVI for future LCD screen if anyone wishes to upgrade from CRT to LCD.

Congrates to kabukiawie on the almost 1Ghz oc...  rclxms.gif
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ed, so early already wake up on sunday. laugh.gif

1ghz oc not stable 1 la. biggrin.gif this morning wake up see the monitor 3dmark hang. doh.gif
just downclock to 3.33GHz.

7300GT agp price near to rm400 is a bit out of budget. hmm.gif


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can anyone tell me the normal temperature for a p4 2.8A non-HT prescott? the rig seems a little hot at times.
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how hot is your cpu?? Did you oc? Is the airflow in your casing not good?
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QUOTE(awh85 @ Mar 25 2007, 09:27 AM)
can anyone tell me the normal temperature for a p4 2.8A non-HT prescott? the rig seems a little hot at times.
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normal temp is around 45idle 55load (estimated realistic temp for prescott) in normal situation with stock cooling and normal casing.

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eh? my rig is not in the list maaa!~ aaahhh~~
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QUOTE(awh85 @ Mar 25 2007, 09:27 AM)
can anyone tell me the normal temperature for a p4 2.8A non-HT prescott? the rig seems a little hot at times.
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Get a CPU temp detector like MBM5 and monitor your rig

Make sure your rig has sufficient airflow
And recommended to change the stock CPU cooler and HS as well
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kabukiawie,see your rig can goes up to 3.33GHz.Very good overclcoking result man. This has boosted a lot of power in your system there.P4P800-X can o/c about 1GHz more that should be very good as the vDimm there max only providing 2.68V.

Kahloon,when are you going to get your 7600GS ? brows.gif brows.gif
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actually for 533Mhz systems, Vdimm applied is not so necessary because it operates below the default speeds of DDR400. I assume all base on 1:1 ratio

Focus more on the Vcore only smile.gif

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