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 INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V3<<, The Journey Continues Here!

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post Apr 5 2007, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Apr 4 2007, 11:16 PM)
wow that kicks ass o.o"" but sadly i cant volt mod it...dont have the option in bios too volt mod =/ so i think this is as far as i can go =(
btw, how do i check the stability of my overclock?
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no need volt mod la. very nice oc indeed. Almost 3GHz. rclxms.gif

i use sp2004. U can try othos. icon_idea.gif


QUOTE(irangan @ Apr 4 2007, 11:47 PM)
Lolz.... Cannot compare like that ma... 3.4C EE is one of the most powerful soc478 that money can buy.. hehe...

though the price is still around 1k+ but it is still easier and cheaper to get in Malaysia. here full of AM2 only.
Try to download Prime95 or Johnny Lee Orthos
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i know it is rare and costly. haha, EE is the most powerful that need ALOT money to buy. laugh.gif

found some old news: Athlon 64 vs Pentium 4 brows.gif

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTI0


use 1k i think those EE owner may let go for it. hahaha.....


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post Apr 5 2007, 10:35 AM

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Guys, just some quick question regarding to 478 procs. Im currently owning two 478 procs. Which are 3.0E (12caps) that im using now, and another 3.0C (30caps). Both of this procs are running on same speed, and HT enable. The different just the L2 cache. 3.0E having 1M while the other 3.0C was only 512kb. I was wander, which procs deal and giving better performance. Ofcause in this case i dont put OC into. Due the 3.0C was having 30caps i believe it can do more then the other one.
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post Apr 5 2007, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(fylon @ Apr 5 2007, 10:35 AM)
Guys, just some quick question regarding to 478 procs. Im currently owning two 478 procs. Which are 3.0E (12caps) that im using now, and another 3.0C (30caps). Both of this procs are running on same speed, and HT enable. The different just the L2 cache. 3.0E having 1M while the other 3.0C was only 512kb. I was wander, which procs deal and giving better performance. Ofcause in this case i dont put OC into. Due the 3.0C was having 30caps i believe it can do more then the other one.
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u got 30caps proc??my suggestion is, OC it!!!good overclockable proc u have there. regarding ur Q, there's not much diff between 512kb or 1Mb, unless in some applications, but the diff is slightly noticeable... sweat.gif

ur 3.0C much more better in term of lower power used which mean less heat... thumbup.gif somemore, highly overclockable which i think really kick ass if u oc it more.... thumbup.gif

edit: i just saw ur siggy, u got asus p4p800 deluxe, great mobo.very2 wasting if u r not using it for oc.... icon_rolleyes.gif

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Haha.. Yea. Was using one o the LEGENDARY tongue.gif mobo for s478. Get it from one of the forumer here months ago. Great performance thou. rclxms.gif

Well i just wanted to know the raw performance of this two procs running in stock speed. The differences is the cache memory only. Hm.. I wasnt a hardcore gamer. Mostly did some 2D light gaming such like maple story tongue.gif. Mostly of the time i just do surfing and chatting.

Ever plan to do OC for my current rigs, due the parts are suitable for it. But yet did i cos still in saving money to get better casing and cooling before i can did OC for it. cry.gif

QUOTE(rainingzero @ Apr 5 2007, 11:33 AM)
u got 30caps proc??my suggestion is, OC it!!!good overclockable proc u have there. regarding ur Q, there's not much diff between 512kb or 1Mb, unless in some applications, but the diff is slightly noticeable... sweat.gif
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Uh.. shocking.gif Noticeable of prformance huh.. Thanks for ya information! notworthy.gif
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post Apr 5 2007, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(fylon @ Apr 5 2007, 10:35 AM)
Guys, just some quick question regarding to 478 procs. Im currently owning two 478 procs. Which are 3.0E (12caps) that im using now, and another 3.0C (30caps). Both of this procs are running on same speed, and HT enable. The different just the L2 cache. 3.0E having 1M while the other 3.0C was only 512kb. I was wander, which procs deal and giving better performance. Ofcause in this case i dont put OC into. Due the 3.0C was having 30caps i believe it can do more then the other one.
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QUOTE(fylon @ Apr 5 2007, 12:09 PM)
Haha.. Yea. Was using one o the LEGENDARY tongue.gif  mobo for s478. Get it from one of the forumer here months ago. Great performance thou. rclxms.gif

Well i just wanted to know the raw performance of this two procs running in stock speed. The differences is the cache memory only. Hm.. I wasnt a hardcore gamer. Mostly did some 2D light gaming such like maple story tongue.gif. Mostly of the time i just do surfing and chatting.

Ever plan to do OC for my current rigs, due the parts are suitable for it. But yet did i cos still in saving money to get better casing and cooling before i can did OC for it. cry.gif
Uh.. shocking.gif Noticeable of prformance huh.. Thanks for ya information! notworthy.gif
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wao, you having 30 cap proc?? drool.gif drool.gif

honestly, 3.0E and 3.0C perform neck to neck. but if i have the same rig as yours, i will go for the 30cap cpu and oc it till the last drop. smile.gif







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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Apr 5 2007, 12:15 PM)
wao, you having 30 cap proc?? drool.gif  drool.gif

honestly, 3.0E and 3.0C perform neck to neck. but if i have the same rig as yours, i will go for the 30cap cpu and oc it till the last drop. smile.gif
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Yup.. Haha! I thought i had sold it long time ago. But few days ago i did my room cleaning and found it lie on the drawer for ages. Tested and it still running fine. Keep as backup procs. drool.gif

But anyways, thanks for ya advise. Planning to change procs once i got enough money for better casing. Atm, my hyper 6+ still cant really give the best shoot yet. Due my old casing was "bottleneck" the cooler. Too pack cry.gif and causing the air flow not smooth. My 3.0E (prescott) running on 36-37'c on idle. Full load reach 48 highest. laugh.gif
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FYI, 3.0E vs 3.0C at stock, the Northwood still win in most applications

3.0E however is 90nm, thus you can scale it quite high too since its a Prescott. Thats where the 1MB will show its power, OC it tongue.gif

As for the Northwood 30 caps M0 stepping, its a rare gem. Can hit very high speeds smile.gif
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post Apr 5 2007, 04:42 PM

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prescott will shine when fsb is higher due to oc limit is higher. with good cooling, it can break 4ghz barrier. Its quite hard for northwood to get 4GHz.


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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Apr 5 2007, 04:42 PM)
prescott will shine when fsb is higher due to oc limit is higher. with good cooling, it can break 4ghz barrier. Its quite hard for northwood to get 4GHz.
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Hmm... Seems like both of the procs got their pros and cons. hmm.gif Btw, just wander anybody here using hyper 6+ this cooling system? Whts the minimum temperature that u guys ever archive? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(fylon @ Apr 5 2007, 05:36 PM)
Hmm... Seems like both of the procs got their pros and cons. hmm.gif Btw, just wander anybody here using hyper 6+ this cooling system? Whts the minimum temperature that u guys ever archive? laugh.gif
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Nice processor and mobo you have there. like everyone said, it is a waste if you dont OC it. haha

anyway, you ask your question in Cooling And Modding thread.
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Just for comparison, I use a CM Hyper 48 with a Tt SMart Fan 2 at full speed. If room temps 38C stock clock 2.8C.
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QUOTE(irangan @ Apr 5 2007, 05:41 PM)
Nice processor and mobo you have there. like everyone said, it is a waste if you dont OC it. haha

anyway, you ask your question in Cooling And Modding thread.
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Lol.. Yea.. But not now. Rising fund for getting a better cooling and casing then will squezz the juice for this two procs. Haha. Opss.. Some offtopics here. doh.gif

Tomorrow my place here will held PC fair. Hehe.. Going to hunt some stuff.

QUOTE(almostthere @ Apr 5 2007, 05:43 PM)
Just for comparison, I use a CM Hyper 48 with a Tt SMart Fan 2 at full speed. If room temps 38C stock clock 2.8C.
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Yo pals.. Thanks for the information! Hah.. Mine are roughly like urs. But my fan only run at 1500-1600rpm! thumbup.gif

Edit: Typo!!

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QUOTE(irangan @ Apr 4 2007, 10:08 PM)
x2 939; just get it from oversea. selling damm cheap..
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Get it outside malaysia ah..expensive leh.dont want to waste much tongue.gif saving all i can now for C2D in a couple of months.

@fylon
why dont you just try to OC ur 30 capper? drool.gif should be able reach good speeds laugh.gif
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Wao cool,30capper 3.0C.Why not go into overclocking?I think should be very easy to get 3.6GHz with your board.Besides what type of RAM chip are you using ?Good RAM can push up your clocking also.
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is this ok ar? i duno if i should push more ade....coz im using stock heatsink sweat.gif




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post Apr 5 2007, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(fylon @ Apr 5 2007, 06:05 PM)
Lol.. Yea.. But not now. Rising fund for getting a better cooling and casing then will squezz the juice for this two procs. Haha. Opss.. Some offtopics here. doh.gif

Tomorrow my place here will held PC fair. Hehe.. Going to hunt some stuff.
Yo pals.. Thanks for the information! Hah.. Mine are roughly like urs. But my fan only run at 1500-1600rpm! thumbup.gif

Edit: Typo!!
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haha....just notice you are from Kuching. tongue.gif ya, pc fair start tomorrow. Will go there eye shopping. laugh.gif

I think if you have time and effort, try push both to the max, see which 1 is better. tongue.gif 30cap of coz is nice. but if 3.0E can go pass 4ghz its sweet as well. Share your oc experience when you proceed. wink.gif Hyper 6+ is quite a nice HFS.
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Apr 5 2007, 09:56 PM)
Wao cool,30capper 3.0C.Why not go into overclocking?I think should be very easy to get 3.6GHz with your board.Besides what type of RAM chip are you using ?Good RAM can push up your clocking also.
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Haha.. Yea! Act its my fren's proc. He burned his board and change to another rigs. Then sold me this procs for RM200 two years ago. But i was forgotten where i keep it. sweat.gif Recently then found. Hehe.. Hmm.. My ram? Currently running on mixed 2x kingston 256mb and 2x hynix 256mb. Both are dual channel with same CL. Dont dare to OC due the ram was from same factory. sweat.gif Actually my current rigs was from emmeir (one of the forumer here. tongue.gif)

QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Apr 5 2007, 10:25 PM)
haha....just notice you are from Kuching. tongue.gif ya, pc fair start tomorrow. Will go there eye shopping. laugh.gif

I think if you have time and effort, try push both to the max, see which 1 is better. tongue.gif 30cap of coz is nice. but if 3.0E can go pass 4ghz its sweet as well. Share your oc experience when you proceed.  wink.gif Hyper 6+ is quite a nice HFS.
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Yea.. Im from kuching. How about you bro? Same? Lol.. Yup! Go there for some window shopping. rclxm9.gif Was looking for graphic card. Hope can hook 7300GT. laugh.gif

Now cannot lo.. Having exam. Maybe wait exam finish then try it. Hehe. My current board only give until 30% max AI overclocking. Guess if want to go pass 4ghz need to adjust vcore right? Im new in OC. Still learning! icon_rolleyes.gif
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@bryanyeo87
hows the idle temp and load temp? how long can you prime with that speed?

Nice oc, i think you can get higher. But better keep your eyes on the temp. i saw its 51C already at the corner there with your prime on idle. try to make sure that load temp is always below 60.

its time for you get a better HFS. smile.gif


@fylon
same as well...miao~~

hmm...if 7300Gt is cheap i may want to grab 1. hoho... u know la, price at kuching. doh.gif

use manual oc, read the pinned thread in oc united. If got problem just post it here, many sifus here(definately not me, not enough skills yet laugh.gif)

with hyper 6+ the temp shouldnt be a big problem. promised that case airflow is good.

Btw, how much you get this rig? very sweet indeed. smile.gif

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Haha.. Icic!! Good! Nice to meet you. laugh.gif

Yup.. Well well.. U know i know. Kuching pc parts price are insane. I went to compumart past 2 week and ask about 7600GT price. Guess how much they told me? 650 and need order. sweat.gif Thats crazy. doh.gif

Lol.. Learning now. But need time to to practical. Pray that my board dont burned out during test time! cool2.gif

This rigs? Hmm.. The prcos and mobo cost me around 500 lo. Resonable la hor? haha.. But i think its worth. Seems the mobo are extremely rare to find nowdays.

Now really dont dare to do OC yet. Provided i got a better casing then i will try it. Currently using cap palang casing which are too small too pack. The cooler itself are big already. Haha.. But still can maintain stock temperature in between 36-38 lo. Due to Prescott core = heat monster. Haha.
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fylon, make sure u got good PSU also...this will bring stability to ur system... smile.gif

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