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post Dec 27 2006, 07:04 PM, updated 18y ago

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This will be Edifier Fan Club Version 3! Thanks to all of your support. thumbup.gif

Continued from the previous topic, Edifier Fan Club V2.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/111058

Fans of Edifier speaker systems.

Discuss it out here and be proud of what you have. ~~ B)
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post Dec 27 2006, 07:09 PM

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Just bought the Edifier speaker stand... and I posted a pic on that in another thread. Happy with the stand as it compliments the Edifier speaker set I have. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Dec 27 2006, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(blurrystart @ Dec 27 2006, 01:32 AM)
I have somthing unclear about these speakers. Pls help me !
in comparison :
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--1/AL CS-21 -->109$
--2/Klipsch GMX A 2.1 (using now but i will sell it soon) -costed me 160$
--3/Edifier S 2.1(D or non D) ~115$ + shipping (~10-20$)
--4/AL MX 5021 --> 149$
Which one is the best ? (for the Performance and ratio Performance/Price )
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Let's take AL ATP3 (the best price i may pick it up is 49$) as the base line for this little battle on speaker. (my friend's small but powerful speaker).
Have a see @ these speaker :

--1/ Logitech X-230--> 55$
--2/ Edifier M2300 --> 42$
--3/ Edifier M3300 -->42$
--4/ Edifier M3400 -->49$
--5/ Edifier M3310 --> 46$

Which one will outperform AL ATP3 ? (In clarity and bass reproduction - I care much about the clarity ). Which one has the best ratio Performance/Price ?
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For I, i have tested all many times, although not side by side but i think i have a deep impress about each of it. The klipsch GMX 2.1 really pawn all the other speaker in the list. if u are bass oriented more than mid and high,
i would say u already have the best multimedia speaker in current market. if u insist to looking for upgrade, i suggest u wait for Edifier S2.1MKII, this is the only speaker mayb can pawn GMX in the sence of good powerful tight bass. if u are more focus on mid and high while still looking for some good quality bass, i suggest u go for AegoM, the best vocal speaker ever~.

For II, according to ur requirement(in clarity-more focus, bass, performance/price ratio), IMO M3300 is the best choice. unless u are bass head, not care much about clarity and tighter bass, then ATP3 will more suit for u.

my conclusion, upgrade or downgrade to any of the speaker in the list u mention is not recommended, because is really wasting money, i doubt u wont get a better sound enjoy experience. i suggest u go for either S2.1MKII, or AegoM, or hifi level speaker like a good amp + a pair of bookshelf or floorstander. u will feel like step into heaven. laugh.gif

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post Dec 27 2006, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(Genius2006 @ Dec 27 2006, 08:45 PM)
For I, i have tested all many times, although not side by side but i think i have a deep impress about each of it. The klipsch GMX 2.1 really pawn all the other speaker in the list. if u are bass oriented more than mid and high,
i would say u already have the best multimedia speaker in current market. if u insist to looking for upgrade, i suggest u wait for Edifier S2.1MKII, this is the only speaker  mayb can pawn GMX in the sence of good powerful tight bass. if u are more focus on mid and high while still looking for some good quality bass, i suggest u go for AegoM, the best vocal speaker ever~.

For II, according to ur requirement(in clarity-more focus, bass, performance/price ratio), IMO M3300 is the best choice. unless u are bass head, not care much about clarity and tighter bass, then ATP3 will more suit for u.

my conclusion, upgrade or downgrade to any of the speaker in the list u mention is not recommended, because is really wasting money, i doubt u wont get a better sound enjoy experience. i suggest u go for either S2.1MKII, or AegoM, or hifi level speaker like a good amp + a pair of bookshelf or floorstander. u will feel like step into heaven.  laugh.gif
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IMHO Klipsch Promedia GMX A-2.1 is not that good. Disco type bass for basshead, missing midrange and very bright sound are what you can get from it. And anyone of the speakers in "section I" pawn GMX A-2.1. smile.gif

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post Dec 27 2006, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(Xeon7222 @ Dec 27 2006, 09:24 PM)
IMHO Klipsch Promedia GMX A-2.1 is not that good. Disco type bass for basshead, missing midrange and very bright sound are what you can get from it. And anyone of the speakers in "section I" pawn GMX A-2.1. smile.gif
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have u seriously done a detail test on it? for eg quiet environment and good source
and fine turn the sub volumn until the best position, or even replace the speaker cable? if say this is disco type speaker that was not wrong, its bass really very tight, powerful and punchy. but missing midrange and sound bright i cant agree with this, i dun see it is over bright and missing midrange after pair with good sound card and replace the stock cable. it should be suitable for listen other type of song also.

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post Dec 27 2006, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(Genius2006 @ Dec 27 2006, 09:39 PM)
have u seriously done a complete test on it? for eg quiet environment and good source
and fine turn the sub volumn until the best position, or even replace the speaker cable?  if say this is disco type speaker that was not wrong, its bass really very tight, powerful and punchy. but missing midrange and sound bright i cant agree with this, i dun see it is over bright and missing midrange if pair with good sound card and replace the stock cable.
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lol, I was waiting for your reply. smile.gif
No offense, just sharing my opinion here.

I have tested the GMX A-2.1 with Philips PSC 805, Prodigy 7.1 LT, Chaintech AV-710 and Audigy 2 ZS. All these sound card are considered a quite a good source for this speaker. Mostly test it with high bit rate mp3 and some .ape, .wav format songs. Testing enviroment is in my room, mostly at night which is "quite". Beside that, the Klipsch GMX A-2.1 is consider burn in already since it has been used for year. The bass contoller was set depends on the type of the songs, some songs need more bass while somes need slightly lesser.

First of all, the bass is considered powerful, but most of the songs don't need that kind of disco, heart punching type bass. Regarding to the missing midrange, don't you feel like you are listening to the songs in a "tin can"? It sound hollow and thin.
And lastly the brightness, it is so bright untill I can't even sit in front of it for more than 15 minutes. Btw, the satellites was placed approximately 26" apart and 24" from listening position. For subwoofer, I have tried placing it near the wall and also not so near to the wall. Overall, "it is not that good". I used to have a Edifier S 4.1 which pawn this GMX A-2.1 anytime. Wait, except the disco type bass when listening to those techno/disco type songs.

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post Dec 27 2006, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Xeon7222 @ Dec 27 2006, 10:05 PM)
lol, I was waiting for your reply. smile.gif
No offense, just sharing my opinion here.

I have tested the GMX A-2.1 with Philips PSC 805, Prodigy 7.1 LT, Chaintech AV-710 and Audigy 2 ZS. All these sound card are considered a quite a good source for this speaker. Mostly test it with high bit rate mp3 and some .ape, .wav format songs. Testing enviroment is in my room, mostly at night which is "quite". Beside that, the Klipsch GMX A-2.1 is consider burn in already since it has been used for year. The bass contoller was set depends on the type of the songs, some songs need more bass while somes need slightly lesser.

First of all, the bass is considered powerful, but most of the songs don't need that kind of disco, heart punching type bass. Regarding to the missing midrange, don't you feel like you are listening to the songs in a "tin can"? It sound hollow and thin.
And lastly the brightness, it is so bright untill I can't even sit in front of it for more than 15 minutes. Btw, the satellites was placed approximately 26" apart and 24" from listening position. For subwoofer, I have tried placing it near the wall and also not so near to the wall. Overall, "it is not that good". I used to have a Edifier S 4.1 which pawn this GMX A-2.1 anytime. Wait, except the disco type bass when listening to those techno/disco type songs.
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nice reply rclxms.gif i appreciate ur opinion exchange
anyway, i am not GMX owner, just test it at fren side. he replace the stock cable and pair it with x-fi. seriously i dun feel it is sound over bright and like a tin can, mayb because x-fi is warm sound card, it compliment the brightness of the speaker. further more my fren replace the very thin stock cable with a thicker and lower impedence cable, thus it cause a better dumping effect from the sub to the satelite. last time i own S2.1 too, i presume s2.1 should almost the same with s4.1? i did feel my fren GMX own my s2.1. i think u r right, mayb just we are not the same testing environment bah, or mayb i am not gmx user, not really use it very long time.
no offence, just my dua puluh cent smile.gif

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post Dec 27 2006, 11:46 PM

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@Xeon, Genius Thx for your reply

but being a owner of GMX 2.1 i think that i tilt to Genius2006's evaluation. Maybe the bass overwhelms the treble in some kinds of music but the overall performance is great with a little adjustment.

In the section I as i mentioned above, i've never tested Edifier 2.1D so i dont know what to say about it.... For the rest i think Cs -21 wont stand a chance in comparison to GMX. The MX 5021 is somehow the real competitor to my hero GMX but i prefer GMX.

I divided those speakers into two groups mainly just because their price ...the 1st group is > 100$ and the second one is < 50$ and their power (RMS) too. Doubtlessly, the 2nd group has less power than 1st one.

I'm living @ my university's dormitory with 3 students. My GMX rarely raises it's voice because it usually annoys my friends (so loud). So i'm thinking something else that has less power but fair in performance (which is not too bad in comparison to my GMX). Maybe after the deal, i will have some extra money...(hix i'm planning downgrade my speaker when everybody want to upgrade ...)

So, should i go for AL ATP3 or Edifier M3300 (3310 or 3400-these models are available in my local warehouses ) ? How good are they ? (i'm afraid of selling them instantly when i get 1 of them shipped !)

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QUOTE(blackshirt @ Dec 27 2006, 07:22 AM)
If you can upgrade to A2ZS you can try kernel streaming, improve alot laugh.gif
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im just thinking to change to audigy 2 coz they told upgrade to zs not improving a lot and just enrich the sound...but since i want to change the sound card is okay to try a2zs if i can get wat i want biggrin.gif

QUOTE(thh1212 @ Dec 27 2006, 05:57 PM)
i think i give a wrong suggestion for the subwoofer placement. doh.gif

however, u can try to put the subwoofer on a carpet or block the subwoofer hole with a cloth, some say it can tighter and give cleaner bass.

For the moding, u need to do it yourself. If u are lucky u can find a shop / somebody to do it for u. U can get all the things u need from jalan pasar.

I'm not using the same speaker model, so i can't imagine how much u need to seal your subwoofer after opened. My S4.1 just need to unscrew and screw back the 14 screws. That's all.  rclxms.gif
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will try to put a cloth a hole rclxms.gif ...will post the result... about sealing the speaker..i think better to change the sound card first. laugh.gif
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Me using R1900TIII, I wound say it is good for those looking for vocal or audiophile listner. I intend to buy bcoz I love vocal songs. For tehcno this is not for your choice.
Any idea where I can add an active sub combine with these speaker, I find it lack of bass when coming to DVD.
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QUOTE(smwah @ Dec 28 2006, 07:17 PM)
Me using R1900TIII, I wound say it is good for those looking for vocal or audiophile listner. I intend to buy bcoz I love vocal songs. For tehcno this is not for your choice.
Any idea where I can add an active sub combine with these speaker, I find it lack of bass when coming to DVD.
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yeap!!!if i got more money i would like to try S2000!!! tongue.gif
lack of bass because there is no subwoofer for it...
for movies and budget one i would recommend R501 MKII... rclxms.gif
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yupe..
S2000 is really a nice set of speaker..
can be considered bookshelf quality..
im happy with its performance..
actually it doesnt lack bass, just turn the volume to around 80%, you definately feel the bass.. it came with a 5.5 inch mid, thus enable it to play pretty decent bass note.. if you compared it to Aego, its more relaxing to listen to for long hours becos it wasnt as pointy as Aego..

Im happy with my set...
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QUOTE(blurrystart @ Dec 27 2006, 11:46 PM)

So, should i go for AL ATP3 or Edifier M3300 (3310 or 3400-these models are available in my local warehouses ) ? How good are they ? (i'm afraid of selling them instantly when i get 1 of them shipped !)
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My vote goes to M3300. It's a good speaker for music superb clarity and tight bass. Performance with movies is also good but if you're a bass head or gamer, then go for others. Of all the budget models you listed, M3300 wins hands down ... at least for me smile.gif
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can anyone give me the pricing for
R501 MKII
and
S5.1

tq very much
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QUOTE(sean392 @ Dec 29 2006, 07:45 PM)
can anyone give me the pricing for
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R501 retail at RM399

S5.1 already stop carrying smile.gif
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input stage of most (if not all) edifier speakers internal power amp is not that good, u can improve the sound quality by adding a pre-amp stage between ur source and speaker smile.gif
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QUOTE(smwah @ Dec 28 2006, 07:17 PM)
Me using R1900TIII, I wound say it is good for those looking for vocal or audiophile listner. I intend to buy bcoz I love vocal songs. For tehcno this is not for your choice.
Any idea where I can add an active sub combine with these speaker, I find it lack of bass when coming to DVD.
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not sure 4 u find it lacking of bass but the set i;m uisng the bass is too overwhelming for songs usually turn it till lowest when movie-ing its not bad either mayb an additional sub is needed but it sound ok to me since the room shakes when the bass is at its highest
wat sound card r u pairing it with?
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Quote from the V2 Forum:

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This certification is great news. It is nice to see Edifier in the leading forefront of our environment for our planet. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Dec 29 2006, 07:37 PM)
My vote goes to M3300. It's a good speaker for music superb clarity and tight bass. Performance with movies is also good but if you're a bass head or gamer, then go for others. Of all the budget models you listed, M3300 wins hands down ... at least for me  smile.gif
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just got M3300...

i hate telling the truth but M3300 really gave me a big disappointment. sad.gif As most of u here recommended me go for M3300 due to its clarity and tight bass. U r right about the clarity but i couldnt see there's tight bass ...all it could perform was a weak and inappropriate low frequency to its good treble blink.gif. I tried maximizing the bass boosting as much as i could and the result got worse and worse shakehead.gif
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i think that M3300 is just mediocre in performance. There's certainly a gap between M3300 and ATP3 (the same situation there when i compare it to VS 4121 sad.gif ). Maybe its clarity gets the point but it totally lose the rest !
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Thx for all of ur advices. This thread is EDIFIER's FAN CLUB, So definitely some guys assess EDIFIER's products partially.They r give more peformance than EDIFIER can offer customers.
We need more true evalution or feedback than exaggeration hmm.gif


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QUOTE(blurrystart @ Jan 1 2007, 06:57 PM)
just got M3300...

i hate telling the truth but M3300 really gave me a big disappointment. sad.gif  As most of u here recommended me go for M3300 due to its clarity and tight bass. U r right about the clarity but i couldnt see there's tight bass ...all it could perform was a weak and inappropriate low frequency to its good treble  blink.gif. I tried maximizing the bass boosting as much as i could and the result got worse and worse  shakehead.gif
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i think that M3300 is just mediocre in performance.  There's certainly a gap between M3300 and ATP3 (the same situation there when i compare it to VS 4121 sad.gif ). Maybe its clarity gets the point but it totally lose the rest !
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Thx for all of ur advices. This thread is EDIFIER's FAN CLUB, So definitely some guys assess EDIFIER's products partially.They r give more peformance than EDIFIER can offer customers.
We need more true evalution or feedback  than exaggeration  hmm.gif
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You should have tested the speakers first before you bought them.
I believe that there is no absolutes for determining a speaker's quality.
Some listeners might think it is lousy but some might think it is excellent.
The fan club here is mainly to serve as secondary references to help in your purchase decisions.
The primary reference should always be the speakers that you want to buy and your own ears.

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