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Investment THE PARK 2 @ PAVILION BUKIT JALIL [OWNERS' THREAD], Malton to launch Final Phase of BJC

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post Aug 9 2022, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(tongyk @ Aug 9 2022, 02:37 AM)
ALL OF YOU also REALLY funny arguing the term and definition of "luxury"

If you really wanna compare luxury properties in the world, Malaysia is in no ranking at ALL.

Even BKK properties are way more luxury than any high end properties in Msia.

And sorry to say that even DPC the best living place in KL is nowhere close to properties in BKK/SG

Price, location isn't the factor determine the term luxury guys. It's the finishing of the end product and of course material being use also part of that.

As for the PARK I would say it's good for now, investors as the valuation has achieved close to 1k psf from early launch about 650 psf?

As for Malaysia standard, it's deem good property already, alot of u i must say is feeling sour as most of u don't own a unit there, the topic is actually owners vs keyboard warriors, u dont want lose n i dont want u to step on my property.
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So much butthurt from the owner...

You do know your argument and rest of you owners argument make no sense?? You guys constantly argue that no Malaysian property is considered luxury... but insist on the park properties to be the best... constantly trying to beat the dead horse...

Also... as mentioned many times already... look back at my posts... the park projects material used are no where near luxury... can't even beat those that are slightly more expensive range like Lot 15... Opus KL... at water... let alone want to compete with properties which are truly high end with marble flooring and finishing...

Seriously... enough is enough... there is some point where many who refute tries to be moderate but the owners here are just delusional..


again... "don't own a unit" doesn't mean shit... because most didn't want to own one.... many here have already said... at the price point... it is not difficult to own one... people who could afford any property in Mont Kiara or even a RM2mil setia sky park could own 3 units of the park projects... hack... people who could own any middle upper projects like the ones that I have listed earlier could own a park project BJCC.... HOWEVER... it won't be the same the other way round cause people who could own a unit at the park project can't even smell let alone own a unit at setia sky seputeh...
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post Aug 9 2022, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Aug 9 2022, 09:42 AM)
So much butthurt from the owner...

You do know your argument and rest of you owners argument make no sense?? You guys constantly argue that no Malaysian property is considered luxury... but insist on the park properties to be the best... constantly trying to beat the dead horse...

Also... as mentioned many times already... look back at my posts... the park projects material used are no where near luxury... can't even beat those that are slightly more expensive range like Lot 15... Opus KL... at water... let alone want to compete with properties which are truly high end with marble flooring and finishing...

Seriously... enough is enough... there is some point where many who refute tries to be moderate but the owners here are just delusional..
again... "don't own a unit" doesn't mean shit... because most didn't want to own one.... many here have already said... at the price point... it is not difficult to own one... people who could afford any property in Mont Kiara or even a RM2mil setia sky park could own 3 units of the park projects... hack... people who could own any middle upper projects like the ones that I have listed earlier could own a park project BJCC.... HOWEVER... it won't be the same the other way round cause people who could own a unit at the park project can't even smell let alone own a unit at setia sky seputeh...
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dude...you are still here arguing trying to convince people u never know wacko.gif u must be really free
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post Aug 9 2022, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(xlss @ Aug 9 2022, 10:50 AM)
dude...you are still here arguing trying to convince people u never know  wacko.gif u must be really free
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Ya man, non of my biz also. even I don't own there also feel annoyed. this thread is suppose for discussion and for some positive insight and hopefully msia prop can be achieve real luxury or at least comparable with BKK. Internet really poison i would say.

don't know nowadays ppl so free come to bombard others prop without any benefits.
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post Aug 9 2022, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Aug 9 2022, 09:42 AM)
So much butthurt from the owner...

You do know your argument and rest of you owners argument make no sense?? You guys constantly argue that no Malaysian property is considered luxury... but insist on the park properties to be the best... constantly trying to beat the dead horse...

Also... as mentioned many times already... look back at my posts... the park projects material used are no where near luxury... can't even beat those that are slightly more expensive range like Lot 15... Opus KL... at water... let alone want to compete with properties which are truly high end with marble flooring and finishing...

Seriously... enough is enough... there is some point where many who refute tries to be moderate but the owners here are just delusional..
again... "don't own a unit" doesn't mean shit... because most didn't want to own one.... many here have already said... at the price point... it is not difficult to own one... people who could afford any property in Mont Kiara or even a RM2mil setia sky park could own 3 units of the park projects... hack... people who could own any middle upper projects like the ones that I have listed earlier could own a park project BJCC.... HOWEVER... it won't be the same the other way round cause people who could own a unit at the park project can't even smell let alone own a unit at setia sky seputeh...
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read carefully, msia prop is nowhere luxury even with Ritz Carlton. No need feel offensive and I can give a champion for this win. Go offline.
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post Aug 9 2022, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(tongyk @ Aug 9 2022, 11:21 AM)
Ya man, non of my biz also. even I don't own there also feel annoyed. this thread is suppose for discussion and for some positive insight and hopefully msia prop can be achieve real luxury or at least comparable with BKK. Internet really poison i would say.

don't know nowadays ppl so free come to bombard others prop without any benefits.
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Mean you have little idea of BKK poorperly market, developers, how much calacatta marble is used, etc. And you have no idea of how much wealth is floating in BKK.

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post Aug 9 2022, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 9 2022, 11:41 AM)
Mean you have little idea of BKK poorperly market, developers, how much calacatta marble is used, etc. And you have no idea of how much wealth is floating in BKK.
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I think the Park Sky Residence and Park 2 enthusiast doesn't want to look at facts but just positive praises, at least that is what I felt when I read the replies. It is pretty cringy seeing how these people are trying so hard to paint these 2 projects as the cream of the crop when it is not even the best within the upper middle class range, let alone comparing it to actual high end service apartments.
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QUOTE(MalcomShorten @ Aug 9 2022, 12:36 PM)
I think the Park Sky Residence and Park 2 enthusiast doesn't want to look at facts but just positive praises, at least that is what I felt when I read the replies. It is pretty cringy seeing how these people are trying so hard to paint these 2 projects as the cream of the crop when it is not even the best within the upper middle class range, let alone comparing it to actual high end service apartments.
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Transacted PSF price and volume is the reality, speak for itself.

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post Aug 9 2022, 02:02 PM

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Let’s just go by the golden test rule ok - if some witch won’t store dozens of Hermes bags in your development then it’s not luxury.

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post Aug 9 2022, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 9 2022, 11:41 AM)
Mean you have little idea of BKK poorperly market, developers, how much calacatta marble is used, etc. And you have no idea of how much wealth is floating in BKK.
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hello~ u poorperty guy again. I said BKK can get the term luxury, and do u see msia got calacatta marble? Msia lose 9 street in term of luxury-ness

So no luxury the term can use in msia, only can use gain or lose money.
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post Aug 9 2022, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 9 2022, 11:41 AM)
Mean you have little idea of BKK poorperly market, developers, how much calacatta marble is used, etc. And you have no idea of how much wealth is floating in BKK.
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hello~ u poorperty guy again. I said BKK can get the term luxury, and do u see msia got calacatta marble? Msia lose 9 street in term of luxury-ness

So no luxury the term can use in msia, only can use gain or lose money.
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post Aug 9 2022, 06:41 PM

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How is the experience, for example driving to a carpark at 5th floor in Park Sky? Does the carpark lift able to bring you to your unit or need to interchange? Do we have enough time to tahan berak?
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post Aug 9 2022, 09:34 PM

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Let’s just say that the demand for extremely high spec high rises is limited. Only maybe expats or foreign buyers would consider it likely not the local elite.

There are certainly many personal landed property furnished to the 9s. The price differential between high spec landed and units would be minimal when you get to that threshold hence landed would be preferred.

At the end of the day, people buy units because they simply can’t afford the landed version of where they’d like to live.



Lol found a video that exactly describes living in Park Sky. It’s in Cantonese and with the more exacting standards of a Hongkie. TLDR, it’s not luxury.

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post Aug 9 2022, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Aug 9 2022, 09:34 PM)
Let’s just say that the demand for extremely high spec high rises is limited. Only maybe expats or foreign buyers would consider it likely not the local elite.

There are certainly many personal landed property furnished to the 9s. The price differential between high spec landed and units would be minimal when you get to that threshold hence landed would be preferred.

At the end of the day, people buy units because they simply can’t afford the landed version of where they’d like to live.



Lol found a video that exactly describes living in Park Sky. It’s in Cantonese and with the more exacting standards of a Hongkie. TLDR, it’s not luxury.
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I think this won't happen in Msia, it's not like SG demand is so high. Due to majority income level is low and corruption lose foreign confident.
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post Aug 10 2022, 01:56 AM

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THE PARK 2, BUKIT JALIL



THE ESTATE, SOUTH BANGSAR



Compare between these 2 specs.... I think it is clear night and day... even blind people also can tell which project spec is higher end...

Porcelain tiles vs Natural Stone/Granite

Laminated wood vs Engineered Timber

Roca toilet fittings vs TOTO (Roca is high end.. don't get me wrong but when it comes to toilet luxury will always be Kohler/American Standard/TOTO)

Bear in mind... The Estate is no where near setia sky seputeh... let alone ritz carlton or pavilion residences... you are literally talking about specs like Italian marble flooring etc at that point...


I think we can put this topic to rest already... if people want to argue there is no luxury apartment in Malaysia... fine... luxury is subjective and maybe you have a super high standard that only a Palace suits your need... but saying the park projects BJCC are the highest end in Selangore/KL with these kinds of spec and price???... doh.gif doh.gif At best the park 2 is middle level specs while projects like The Estate is upper middle level specs...

The park residence is a bit worse though... I've watched iHerng's video and was like WTF... no full shower fittings but instead comes with instant water heater... old school switch... flush panel door doh.gif doh.gif literally the same level as those lower middle level specs like Ryan & Miho... Panarama... Exsim's Damansara Perdana type projects...

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Aug 10 2022, 01:56 AM)
THE PARK 2, BUKIT JALIL

THE ESTATE, SOUTH BANGSAR

Compare between these 2 specs.... I think it is clear night and day... even blind people also can tell which project spec is higher end...

Porcelain tiles vs Natural Stone/Granite

Laminated wood vs Engineered Timber

Roca toilet fittings vs TOTO (Roca is high end.. don't get me wrong but when it comes to toilet luxury will always be Kohler/American Standard/TOTO)

Bear in mind... The Estate is no where near setia sky seputeh... let alone ritz carlton or pavilion residences... you are literally talking about specs like Italian marble flooring etc at that point...
I think we can put this topic to rest already... if people want to argue there is no luxury apartment in Malaysia... fine... luxury is subjective and maybe you have a super high standard that only a Palace suits your need... but saying the park projects BJCC are the highest end in Selangore/KL with these kinds of spec and price???...  doh.gif  doh.gif  At best the park 2 is middle level specs while projects like The Estate is upper middle level specs...

The park residence is a bit worse though... I've watched iHerng's video and was like WTF... no full shower fittings but instead comes with instant water heater... old school switch... flush panel door  doh.gif  doh.gif  literally the same level as those lower middle level specs like Ryan & Miho... Panarama... Exsim's Damansara Perdana type projects...
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base porsche w/out option vs. fully loaded Merc/BMW ... end of stori ... seriously get a life dude whistling.gif
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post Aug 10 2022, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(xlss @ Aug 10 2022, 09:10 AM)
base porsche w/out option vs. fully loaded Merc/BMW ... end of stori ... seriously get a life dude  whistling.gif
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hohoho.... such ego... BASE PORSCHE w/out option wo....

more like base Myvi.... trying hard to be a Mini Cooper with shitty body kits...


Seriously... stop pretending that an upper middle priced service apartment at best.... located at a place where people don't really consider a prime area... typical mid-end fittings given (lower end for park residence)... is something to shout about... this horse had died donkey years and you still trying to beat it...

Park residence is at best the same specs with Ryan & Miho level...

Park 2 is at best the same specs with Sunway Serene.... nowhere near the Estate level... let alone those properties at MK/Desa Park city...


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post Aug 10 2022, 10:12 AM

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So tu lan. Like a bunch of Real Housewife datins arguing who’s richer. Are you guys friends with witch?
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post Aug 10 2022, 11:33 AM

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Argue for days straight d still no chill.. ahaha Aiya just settled as high end for BJCC area la.
High end for bangsar south
High end for KLCC
High end for PJ
High end for USJ

All and all as long as secondary market hold not far from initial psf is a good buy. How many zeros at the end is subjective. See %
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omg....long luxury argument still going on blink.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Aug 7 2022, 04:25 PM)
The Park 2 wasn't selling at 1000psf.... when it was first launch it is only 800+ net price... if you are referring to the current property guru price then you must have very little knowledge on real estate if you think immediate VP inflated price (seller selling at SPA price or higher) is what it is worth...

If you think it is a luxury property in bukit jalil... then so be it... if it makes you happy...

All I wanted to say is... it ain't a luxury project... at best it is above average service apartment.... 

"Highest end" condo in sub KL and Selangor is a bold statement... like I said... Setia Sky Seputeh... which is at Seputeh not KLCC which you don't want to be compared to... starts at RM2mil cheapest unit... that is no doubt a luxury project...

And as mentioned before... if you are talking about Building Spec... Park 2 is far inferior compared to Lot 15... which is located at Subang not KLCC.... 

If Park 2 with such high 1k unit density + typical specs could be considered Luxury.... Lot 15 is a super luxury in whole of Selangor then...

thanks for the laugh  laugh.gif  laugh.gif...
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You bought a unit at Lot 15 bro?

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