Any available units left for the 933sqf? PM me please

What size you bought?

con9lan7cbfirm sour grap MAX

Park 2 got bridge connecting to the mall, a bridge connecting to the park and abundance of shops + offices in between the residences and the mall.

You've got everything there, entertainment/shopping/shops just within your vicinity (not to mention the shops within your own residence and park residences). You've also got a golf course if you fancy golf.

You have a kindergarten, a primary and secondary school within less than 500 meters, you have a BIG PUBLIC PARK which will never go away in front of your residence, LRT within less than 2km if you REALLY need to use the train.

A medical university nearby not to mention a hospital and international school coming up.

Bukit Jalil park not too near and not too far if there are any events or concert held there.

No TnB, no manufacturing and you can't say your residence appeal is bad when infront of you is a well maintain park and behind of you is a brand new mall and beside you are brand new residences and shops.


What's your excuse now?

Then tell me what makes you think Subang will attract people compared to BJ?

The thing is, you have to know malls attract people not people attract malls.

The anchor tenants and what the mall has to offer are what attracts people NOT location. Just look at Jaya Shopping center, it is in the middle of section 13, one of the most strategic place with heavy traffic but despite that the mall is very very quiet. That is because they do not have the proper tenant to attract people and there is no reason for people to go there. Same goes for Subang Parade but Subang Parade traffic has increased in the recent years thanks to the movie theater and also other additions.

If you dive in deeper, there is something very important when it comes to getting good anchor tenants which is the mall managements. Pavilion and Sunway REIT have strong brand name which attracts tenants that is why you don't see any tom dick and harry mall can easily just get good tenants to join.

Bottom line, it is clear that there are plentiful development in BJ. The well received residences units are proof that there will be significant traffic being built in that area and on top of that the surrounding appeal like a public park is a big plus. Time will tell if the place will become another Sunway Pyramid or another Da Men/Jaya Shopping center.

Tell me, what One Utama have? What MV have? Your argument makes no sense, you think SP flourish because of sunway lagoon? please...

Lot 15 you said everything best but because of TnB you say suck.

Park 2 got everything and no TnB, you say suck because you assume it is going do badly.

APA YOU MAU actually? Cannot satisfy you one la... when every aspect is ok you use your assumption/imagination to say it suck... like that you win liao lo..

This post has been edited by holypredator: Jan 14 2019, 11:02 PM

Your argument implies BJ city will do badly, even other forumers here are saying you sour grape. Perhaps in your mind you think what you are saying is neutral but it is not, everything you've said before and now has always been leaning towards a heavy implication on something good or bad.

I've argued that Park 2 is better than Lot 15 overall few months ago but you can't seem to actually challenge my points but the only thing you've said is because it is Subang and Subang is better than BJ. Care to refute my points said earlier and actually challenge why you think Lot 15 is better than the points I gave few posts earlier? SA mentioned that Lot 15 is the last piece of land for service apartment in ss16/1 (within the TOD area) so it is unique in a way and based on Sime's original plan, it is indeed the last piece of land used for service apartment while the rest within SS16/1 (TOD area) will be either soho/office or a mall. So I'm not sure what you meant by one condo amongst dozen of others there meant cause there are no other high end high rise condo like Lot 15 in SS16/1 .

And what is your argument that BJ is not unique enough to attract outsiders? So far, you've been giving statements but there is not facts/figures hence what is the purpose? Are we suppose to just say "Yeah, no one will go BJ because beanboy said so"

Tell me what? Your sentence ends with Setia res also have link bridge to the mall and facing park, what are you actually wanting to tell me? Is there any actual point or it is just a statement?

This post has been edited by holypredator: Jan 14 2019, 11:35 PM

Now I remember why I stopped talking to you.

Damn, things never changed... I expected you will give these type of stupid half baked non contributional response. It happened the last time and it happened again.

I guess I walked into the same trap the minute I thought this time it would be different.

Do me a favour, don't bother quoting me.... I'm tired of seeing your name appearing on my notification.

This post has been edited by holypredator: Jan 15 2019, 12:39 AM

I don't mind a good argument but beanboy there never gave one.

It's the same thing that happened to me last time and it happened again.

The last time I argued with him on another project he responded "you don't understand one la" and those sort of avoiding questions but yet insisting on his point.

IT HAPPENED AGAIN... the last time I said he doesn't contribute anything but just mindless posts, I guess he never change... why he bother to even start a debate when he is not actually presenting any points I don't know. Perhaps he just wants to start a fight or he just wants to up his stars (I can't believe I am saying this shit again after half a year avoiding that schmuck)

All I see here is 2 retards can't actually give proper reason to why the project is doing badly apart from their imaginary situation DESPITE the sales tell otherwise. It's like trying to argue with a block of wood while sales are almost done....

Just ignore BeanBoy. His post never make sense and most of the time he make things up which are untrue.

For example :
"pav reit forseen pav bj wont be successful"

Pavilion REIT never said that and they won't be dumb enough to say that even if it is true. But this idiot beanboy make it like it is a statement from pavilion. I see also piss off cause constantly got an idiot going around spreading lies as if it is a fact. If those people who never do their research and read this, sure kena misled gao gao.

The other 2 points are equally ridiculous but I guess you know what I am trying to say. Just ignore this fella and never take any of his input seriously.

Are you sure Harrods is buying over? Any source?

I don't remember harrods being a mall rather than just a departmental store.

There are no news that the building will be changed to harrods. Harrods isn't even a mall to begin with but only a departmental store brand.

QIA is an investment company, they don't really call the shots to naming malls besides they only hold about 35.74% stakes. They are cash rich from Qatar and makes a ton of blunder in their investment portfolio because all they have is cash and all they do is splurge on anything that is available (see their performance record).

I'm pretty sure either the mall would stay as "Pavilion bukit jalil" and run by other REIT or Pavilion REIT eventually takes over.

I think Malton group and Pavilion group might be losing confidence on their BJ City plan hence they are opening up for foreign investors. Think about it, if it is deemed so successful, who would want to sell it away? I believe what happened is the low take up rate of commercial shops which are already completed hence prompting both Malton and Pavilion to be worried on the malls well being.

Or perhaps Pavilion REIT gearing has exceeded their capacity hence they do not wish/have the capital to be injected for the mall. They are getting more selective on their project I guess since Da Men has not been doing well. Despite pavilion damansara being a later project, they chose that instead of BJCC which is obvious that when they have limited capacity, they would go for the better ones which in this case Damansara Pavilion and not BJCC.

This post has been edited by holypredator: Feb 1 2019, 01:00 PM

What my beliefs about bukit jalil city residences are that it is an "OK" choice for living (especially if you have a reason to live in Bukit Jalil) and an "OK" choice for investment. Other than that I don't think it is worth all the hype that has been mentioned in this thread. The value ain't going to Up Up Up as if this is the next KLCC landmark (see my quote below).

There are potential for Investment for residences in terms of AirBnB seeing that it is near the Bukit Jalil Stadium (concert goers), a mall and golf club. However, bear in mind that there are 5 blocks (even more if you include LBS) of highly dense residential towers, which would definitely drive the AirBnB price down to the bare minimum in view of the competition investors will face.

Living wise, it is also moderate in value because while it has a park behind, a mall in front and shops in between, that area is Jam as hell. On top of that, you are living on a highly dense tower with 1,000 over units for park 2 itself and a lot more for park residences. Also, a lot of the investors are eyeing on it for AirBnB services and Rental hence living wise would be affected in that aspect.

Overall, it is a moderate buy. Not good nor bad for both living and investing purposes.

They are changing it to Da Men BJ or Da Men 2

I'm pretty sure it is going to be called Da Men BJ or Da Men 2

Rumours and my source told me that Pavilion REIT is interested to take over again.

Then news came out few hours ago.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/pavi...-mall-ownership


But the thing is they are saying they aren't going to brand it as Pavilion BJ because they don't think it is prestigious or luxurious enough to carry the brand name. Only Pavilion KL adn Pavilion Damansara is being branded as such (High class area)

BJ aren't particularly a high class area, hence they are going to name it Da Men no.2.

This post has been edited by holypredator: Apr 9 2019, 12:10 AM

Intermark is office mixed but more towards office than a mall.

They will brand it Da Men 2 or Da Men BJ cause that is their "shopping complex" branding whereas Pavilion seems to be more towards lifestyle mall

No one will be so stupid giving out their full details including unit no. to you.

You are not the JMB or official committee.. it's like giving out their personal details to some stranger.

Name + HP no. + Park Sky/Park 2 should be sufficient info

rent to who?

Doesn't seem to have any demographic to "rent to".

There are no hospital/international schools nearby..

There are also no convenient route to the airport either hence definitely not for pilot/air stewardess.

There are no universities/colleges nearby so... I don't there will be any students renting it

On top of that, the closest train station is not within walking distance.


The only demographic that I can think off is perhaps AirBnB for short events [national stadium bukit jalil / tourists maybe?]

Also, the park residences is 4 blocks with 1k units 700+ units from the park 2. This is not counting the building from LBS.... which consist of 1.3k units. All these are only confined to BJCC itself... within close proximity there are others including Treez jalil. And even that excludes other tiers apartment within close proximity like Sri Rakyat and Jalil Damai.

With that many competition and no demographics... you'd be lucky if you could even get somebody who wants to rent your unit.

NONE of those you've mentioned are within walking distance.

The closest also the Tzu Chi school... which is about 2.6km

Traffic there is a nightmare getting in and out.

However, the biggest concern is also competition in renting. Like I mentioned, 1k+ units from park residences and 700+ from park 2. On top of that you have another 1k+ from LBS.... these projects are equal in terms of specification, tier and all of them are within BJCC. There are many other projects nearby as well.

How are you going to compete?

LBS project is not low end... the price is slightly cheaper but bear in mind it is leasehold.