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Release in June?like...really?
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QUOTE(rayzy22 @ Feb 22 2016, 05:24 PM)
Release in June?like...really?
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A bit late to the market TBH
look at S7 which is launching next month in M'sia
by the time Xperia gets launched, the market is already flooded with s7/s7 edge

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QUOTE(rayzy22 @ Feb 22 2016, 05:24 PM)
Release in June?like...really?
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Later they say 'ah Sony why you release Z5 then Xperia X within 6 months? Considering Z5 wasn't even 6 months old yet.'

Few things I noticed :
- metal unibody
- newest range
- Effing 2.5D glass (hard to find glass protectors)
- no waterproofing (other than X Performance)

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Feb 22 2016, 05:34 PM)
Later they say 'ah Sony why you release Z5 then Xperia X within 6 months? Considering Z5 wasn't even 6 months old yet.'

Few things I noticed :
- metal unibody
- newest range
- Effing 2.5D glass (hard to find glass protectors)
- no waterproofing
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But the 2.5D glass so salivating...probably just use film type.

Now you mention it, yes there is nowhere mentioning waterproofing. But I think that's not full spec just yet i believe.
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shit !!!!!!!!!! Just bought z5 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(rayzy22 @ Feb 22 2016, 05:41 PM)
But the 2.5D glass so salivating...probably just use film type.

Now you mention it, yes there is nowhere mentioning waterproofing. But I think that's not full spec just yet i believe.
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Film type sucks tbh. I prefer glass with oleophobic coating like imos.

Waterproofing limited to X Performance only.
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why the X/X Performance looks like it's not as edge-to-edge like the XA? the XA looks narrower..
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But still, Sony won't get my money, as they didn't release any Ultra series phone.
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perfect,as im looking for premium 5 inch smartphone

i suppose this might cost like rm1700 for center xperia x,might be expensive for a Snapdragon 650,i hope it release as soon as possible
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Feb 22 2016, 05:34 PM)
Later they say 'ah Sony why you release Z5 then Xperia X within 6 months? Considering Z5 wasn't even 6 months old yet.'

Few things I noticed :
- metal unibody
- newest range
- Effing 2.5D glass (hard to find glass protectors)
- no waterproofing (other than X Performance)
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hmm.gif is the z series going to be discontinued and replace with this x series? the xperia x performance sure looks like a flagship spec

the curved glass and metal body looks yummy. but i was a bit let down on the small capacity battery
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Feb 22 2016, 06:25 PM)
hmm.gif  is the z series going to be discontinued and replace with this x series? the xperia x performance sure looks like a flagship spec

the curved glass and metal body looks yummy. but i was a bit let down on the small capacity battery
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No words on the replacement, nor Sony flagging this as a flagship.
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the design is ok. but the top and bottom bezels are way too big.
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Feb 22 2016, 06:25 PM)
hmm.gif  is the z series going to be discontinued and replace with this x series? the xperia x performance sure looks like a flagship spec

the curved glass and metal body looks yummy. but i was a bit let down on the small capacity battery
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flagships with 5" screen, no way in 2016

even Apple compromised on that and go beyond the screen limit
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http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_mwc_2016-review-1386p2.php

that metal unibody. wub.gif
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Sounds to me Z6 will have big improvement over Z5, perhaps 4GB RAM, a newer camera sensor, 2K screen? hmm.gif
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Downside to me is Sony designs have big bezels, for ZX no usb-C and ois.
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When is sony going to include ois in their camera??
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QUOTE(tennytyy @ Feb 23 2016, 02:37 PM)
When is sony going to include ois in their camera??
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/02/16/sony-...-stabilization/

probably by end of this year?
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way tooo late for that !!!!!!!!!!!! even Apple / Huawei / Lenovo also adopted OIS !!!!!!!!!! for Sony for sooo late in adopting OIS is - pathetic
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QUOTE(junkyman @ Feb 23 2016, 03:41 PM)
way tooo late for that !!!!!!!!!!!! even Apple / Huawei / Lenovo also adopted OIS !!!!!!!!!! for Sony for sooo late in adopting OIS is - pathetic
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but Sony Intelligent stabilization software work better than mechanical OIS.

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ironic how the XA looks the nicest of all
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QUOTE(rayzy22 @ Feb 23 2016, 03:47 PM)
but Sony Intelligent stabilization software work better than mechanical OIS.
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but that is only for video recording. it doesn't apply to taking photo
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QUOTE(rayzy22 @ Feb 23 2016, 03:47 PM)
but Sony Intelligent stabilization software work better than mechanical OIS.
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only on video, btw not on photo !!!!!!!!!! Sony camera software sucks especially when most ppl use - focus and shoot.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Feb 22 2016, 05:52 PM)
But still, Sony won't get my money, as they didn't release any Ultra series phone.
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macam.. xperia x performance quite promising for me.. better than my z3 now.. hhahaha
wondering would they come out x performance premium... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(junkyman @ Feb 23 2016, 04:05 PM)
only on video, btw not on photo !!!!!!!!!! Sony camera software sucks especially when most ppl use - focus and shoot.
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apparently the xperia M5 has better photos than their flagship Z5 hmm.gif
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not competitive enuf..even flagship only got 3gb RAM...come on la sony..u can do better.. mayb this is not "true" flagship...
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Feb 23 2016, 04:32 PM)
not competitive enuf..even flagship only got 3gb RAM...come on la sony..u can do better.. mayb this is not "true" flagship...
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Sony didn't flag this as a flagship device.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Feb 23 2016, 04:59 PM)
Sony didn't flag this as a flagship device.
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X Performance is the flagship device..for now..
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X Performance is not bad! Thumbs up for Sony.

Anyway Z5P series owner should rejoice. It looks they won't have any new flagship phones until IFA 2016. If they can keep up and release once a year, this is going to be good news for Sony.
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QUOTE(camron @ Feb 23 2016, 04:19 PM)
macam.. xperia x performance quite promising for me.. better than my z3 now.. hhahaha
wondering would they come out x performance premium...  tongue.gif
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I am jumping ship if they don't release any. Although my Z Ultra is still fine, one day it might die.
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Feb 23 2016, 05:06 PM)
X Performance is not bad! Thumbs up for Sony.

Anyway Z5P series owner should rejoice. It looks they won't have any new flagship phones until IFA 2016. If they can keep up and release once a year, this is going to be good news for Sony.
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But too bad... Once again Sony selling phones at extremely high price.

Just read gsmarena article, Xperia X alone already going for €700. WTF!

I guess Xperia X Performance will go for €880?

Fainted... Sony always sell phone at such prices despite not being a flagship phone.
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QUOTE(MsiaqweR @ Feb 23 2016, 06:13 PM)
But too bad... Once again Sony selling phones at extremely high price.

Just read gsmarena article, Xperia X alone already going for €700. WTF!

I guess Xperia X Performance will go for €880?

Fainted... Sony always sell phone at such prices despite not being a flagship phone.
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I prefer to see the price of local market than foreign market.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Feb 23 2016, 06:16 PM)
I prefer to see the price of local market than foreign market.
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You expect the price in Malaysia to be cheaper with our lousy hopeless ringgit?
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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Feb 23 2016, 06:18 PM)
You expect the price in Malaysia to be cheaper with our lousy hopeless ringgit?
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I'm never expecting it will be cheaper.
I only say I prefer to see local price than foreign price.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Feb 22 2016, 05:52 PM)
But still, Sony won't get my money, as they didn't release any Ultra series phone.
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laugh.gif'ed btw giff me ULTRA series or riot...!
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Not water-resistant, so I think not flagship phone. This is may be a feature phone I think...
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Huge huge top and bottom bezels... doh.gif

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http://www.lowyat.net/2016/96331/hands-on-...-and-xperia-xa/
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Bye bye Sony gonna bankrupt?

There is no Z6. Xperia X Performance is the Z6 flagship replacement.
http://m.pocketnow.com/2016/02/23/no-xperi...flagship-family

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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Feb 23 2016, 10:51 PM)
Bye bye Sony gonna bankrupt?

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how can they go bankrupt while they have Playstation, camera, audio, entertainment, devices and financial departments?
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QUOTE(MPIK @ Feb 23 2016, 10:12 PM)
mcm rip off from S6 Edge

agree with u the oversized bezels, the proportion is rather awkward compare to earlier Z series
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Feb 23 2016, 11:03 PM)
how can they go bankrupt while they have Playstation, camera, audio, entertainment, devices and financial departments?
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Maybe I just kidding.
Perhaps the mobile division will lose a lot of money if Xperia X Performance is truly the flagship.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Feb 23 2016, 11:03 PM)
how can they go bankrupt while they have Playstation, camera, audio, entertainment, devices and financial departments?
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if i m not mistaken, their only cash cow for now is Playstation, the rest are making loss including Columbia pictures
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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Feb 23 2016, 11:07 PM)
if i m not mistaken, their only cash cow for now is Playstation, the rest are making loss including Columbia pictures
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nope. they are making profit in recent news. remember Spectre and Adele? both boosted Sony's profit. but i think Sony Pictures might lose money again, as Daniel Craig quit acting James Bond.

just that, the most struggling is mobile division. still making loss but posted some tiny boost.

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I think this phone is not really up to today's standard, considering that it was gonna be released mid of this year
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QUOTE(MPIK @ Feb 23 2016, 10:12 PM)
Just an illusion . In fact its screen ratio better than galaxy s6 .
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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Feb 23 2016, 11:07 PM)
if i m not mistaken, their only cash cow for now is Playstation, the rest are making loss including Columbia pictures
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http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-q3-fin...creased-profit/
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The rumour that this will cost around the same as S7... not much reason choosing this over S7 unless ur diehard sony.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Feb 23 2016, 06:06 PM)
I am jumping ship if they don't release any. Although my Z Ultra is still fine, one day it might die.
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haha i wont jump till my z3 gone... biggrin.gif
still working fine after since change the lcd screen.. lolx
if this X Performance is real good i might considered to change that but depends on local price too.. laugh.gif
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i cannot accept a pseudo flagship phone with 5" Full HD screen
this will be a filler product to fill in the mid term gap before Z6 finally comes out



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QUOTE(MPIK @ Feb 23 2016, 10:12 PM)
Thats XA model, edge to edge display..performance not as nice:Attached Image

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http://www.gsmarena.com/no_xperia_z6_x_ser...-news-16860.php - looks like X models will replace the Z series from now on !!!
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QUOTE(junkyman @ Feb 24 2016, 12:23 PM)
http://www.gsmarena.com/no_xperia_z6_x_ser...-news-16860.php - looks like X models will replace the Z series from now on !!!
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This has been discussed in XDA Forum yesterday i believe. To note, it contradicted with Sony in Hungary statement in their fB. Nevertheless Xperia X grows quite 'interesting' publicity.
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ok, so the selling point is the new hybrid autofocus camera
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QUOTE(tennytyy @ Feb 23 2016, 02:37 PM)
When is sony going to include ois in their camera??
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Adding OIS will cause the camera module to "pop out" from the device. Sony has been trying to cramp in a compact camera sensor into it. I rather prefer the camera to be on the same plane with back panel. It reduces high chance of scratching the lens.

QUOTE(Baconateer @ Feb 23 2016, 04:32 PM)
not competitive enuf..even flagship only got 3gb RAM...come on la sony..u can do better.. mayb this is not "true" flagship...
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Adding more RAM will increase the power consumption, but the performance increment is hardly noticeable.
By balancing these 2 points, not adding RAM is a good choice.

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Feb 24 2016, 08:32 PM)
Adding more RAM will increase the power consumption, but the performance increment is hardly noticeable.
By balancing these 2 points, not adding RAM is a good choice.
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yes...from a technical standpoint..from a marketing view...this is an disadvantages..whn u c Samsung and LG flagship got 4gb ram..
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xperia x compared to z5. better screen and camera




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yes...from a technical standpoint..from a marketing view...this is an disadvantages..whn u c Samsung and LG flagship got 4gb ram..
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Feb 24 2016, 11:30 PM)
xperia x compared to z5. better screen and camera
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“The Xperia Z line has reached its culmination – Xperia X series represents a new chapter and evolution of our product strategy. Whilst the Xperia Z series was all about bringing the best of Sony’s advanced technologies to smartphones, Xperia X series is based on bringing smart, adaptive Sony user experiences across camera, battery performance and hardware / software design.”

SOURCE

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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Feb 25 2016, 12:03 AM)
Looks like Sony is ending the Z-series run
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There are a lot of rumors that the Z-series run ended because Sony is planning a newly redesigned flagship? If that's the case than it is good news, won't it? Anyway, I don't like X-Performance. To get a flagship phone around the middle of June should be 4GB of RAM. What's the point of getting a top of the line processor if the screen refreshes most of the time due to low RAM?
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Feb 25 2016, 09:19 PM)
There are a lot of rumors that the Z-series run ended because Sony is planning a newly redesigned flagship? If that's the case than it is good news, won't it? Anyway, I don't like X-Performance. To get a flagship phone around the middle of June should be 4GB of RAM. What's the point of getting a top of the line processor if the screen refreshes most of the time due to low RAM?
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The rumor is officially true now. Sony officially confirms Z5 is the last Z series.
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Feb 25 2016, 09:19 PM)
There are a lot of rumors that the Z-series run ended because Sony is planning a newly redesigned flagship? If that's the case than it is good news, won't it? Anyway, I don't like X-Performance. To get a flagship phone around the middle of June should be 4GB of RAM. What's the point of getting a top of the line processor if the screen refreshes most of the time due to low RAM?
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as kingkingyyk previously said:
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Adding more RAM will increase the power consumption, but the performance increment is hardly noticeable.
By balancing these 2 points, not adding RAM is a good choice.


their official statement did mention this:
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“The Xperia Z line has reached its culmination – Xperia X series represents a new chapter and evolution of our product strategy. Whilst the Xperia Z series was all about bringing the best of Sony’s advanced technologies to smartphones, Xperia X series is based on bringing smart, adaptive Sony user experiences across camera, battery performance and hardware / software design.


although 4GB ram is arguably better spec wise, sony's key here imo is overall balanced user experience. #justmy2cents
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yeah, maybe technically we don't need 4gb ram. also most user will not be able to tell the difference between 2k and fhd on a 5" screen. and also maybe the power optimization is so good that 2700mah battery is more than enough on Xp. all this only the tech savvy people will understand.

but then, on the marketing point of view, more is always better. people look at figures when doing comparison. the bigger the number equates to better spec. this is typical human nature

and also on the pricing. how is sony gonna price this xperia x performance? side by side comparison, its spec loses to s7 or g5. is sony going price this the same price range as s7 or g5? if so which device most likely people will buy? let's say same price 2.5k you get a 4gb ram, 2k screen and 3k+mah battery on the s7 vs 3gb ram, fhd screen and 2.7kmah battery on Xp. by this simple comparison, most will think the Xp is not worth it.

if sony price this like 300 or 400 lower than competitor, then maybe this Xp will still be able to find its market. if not i'm afraid things will not be looking good for sony...
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Feb 26 2016, 09:47 AM)
yeah, maybe technically we don't need 4gb ram. also most user will not be able to tell the difference between 2k and fhd on a 5" screen. and also maybe the power optimization is so good that 2700mah battery is more than enough on Xp. all this only the tech savvy people will understand.

but then, on the marketing point of view, more is always better. people look at figures when doing comparison. the bigger the number equates to better spec. this is typical human nature

and also on the pricing. how is sony gonna price this xperia x performance? side by side comparison, its spec loses to s7 or g5. is sony going price this the same price range as s7 or g5? if so which device most likely people will buy? let's say same price 2.5k you get a 4gb ram, 2k screen and 3k+mah battery on the s7 vs 3gb ram, fhd screen and 2.7kmah battery on Xp. by this simple comparison, most will think the Xp is not worth it.

if sony price this like 300 or 400 lower than competitor, then maybe this Xp will still be able to find its market. if not i'm afraid things will not be looking good for sony...
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When I saw the ram is 3GB, directly closed the specification page.
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I dont think the X series is going anywhere.

Xperia X already selling for €600

I guess Xperia XP will be selling at €750 + with only mediocre specs like 3GB RAM and 2700mah + no differentiating features worth mentioning.
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When I saw the ram is 3GB, directly closed the specification page.
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lol, haha....agreed.

how much really does it cost just to include another 1GB of RAM onto the phone?
since Sony mentioned there will not be any Z6 and I assume this will be their flagship and yet 3GB RAM?

What's their engineers thinking? Sony can only blame themselves if this company closes.
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lol, haha....agreed.

how much really does it cost just to include another 1GB of RAM onto the phone?
since Sony mentioned there will not be any Z6 and I assume this will be their flagship and yet 3GB RAM?

What's their engineers thinking? Sony can only blame themselves if this company closes.
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Feb 26 2016, 09:47 AM)
yeah, maybe technically we don't need 4gb ram. also most user will not be able to tell the difference between 2k and fhd on a 5" screen. and also maybe the power optimization is so good that 2700mah battery is more than enough on Xp. all this only the tech savvy people will understand.

but then, on the marketing point of view, more is always better. people look at figures when doing comparison. the bigger the number equates to better spec. this is typical human nature

and also on the pricing. how is sony gonna price this xperia x performance? side by side comparison, its spec loses to s7 or g5. is sony going price this the same price range as s7 or g5? if so which device most likely people will buy? let's say same price 2.5k you get a 4gb ram, 2k screen and 3k+mah battery on the s7 vs 3gb ram, fhd screen and 2.7kmah battery on Xp. by this simple comparison, most will think the Xp is not worth it.

if sony price this like 300 or 400 lower than competitor, then maybe this Xp will still be able to find its market. if not i'm afraid things will not be looking good for sony...
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Feb 26 2016, 01:02 PM)
We absolutely need more than that. Spotify automatically shuts down while I play CoC or view pictures on my phone. Of course there are other things that it keeps running on the background. I am on the Z1 btw.
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QUOTE(MPIK @ Feb 26 2016, 11:08 AM)
lol, haha....agreed.

how much really does it cost just to include another 1GB of RAM onto the phone?
since Sony mentioned there will not be any Z6 and I assume this will be their flagship and yet 3GB RAM?

What's their engineers thinking? Sony can only blame themselves if this company closes.
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It's not easy to build a phone. It's not like you want add 1gb of ram then can simply add. It's depend on board design, engineering knowledge, manufacturing availability, cost of parts and etc. U need to know Samsung is very very big company and they are more to IDM. They can design, produce some parts by their own. And also need to see the volume. Samsung sales may a lot units than Sony, they manage to lower the supplier cost.

It's really depending on ecosystem of each company. There are always better and better.. And they will do market analysis on each segment and decide the pricing.
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Feb 26 2016, 06:00 PM)
It's not easy to build a phone. It's not like you want add 1gb of ram then can simply add.  It's depend on board design, engineering knowledge, manufacturing availability, cost of parts and etc. U need to know Samsung is very very big company and they are more to IDM. They can design, produce some parts by their own. And also need to see the volume. Samsung sales may a lot units than Sony, they manage to lower the supplier cost.

It's really depending on ecosystem of each company. There are always better and better.. And they will do market analysis on each segment and decide the pricing.
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annoncement from Sony Mobile MY on their fb

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annoncement from Sony Mobile MY on their fb
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Dual version will be more famous in Malaysia I guess. Lol but I can't change already. Just wonder z5 series can get predictive hybrid focus,?! By theory should be able to make it through software.
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haha... i'm also still using z1... but z1 only have 2gb ram, which i think by today's standard really is "just enough"
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Feb 26 2016, 10:31 PM)
Dual version will be more famous in Malaysia I guess.  Lol but I can't change already. Just wonder z5 series can get predictive hybrid focus,?! By theory should be able to make it through software.
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Feb 26 2016, 10:41 PM)
I hope Sony surprise us this IFA. This October will be a full three years. Aren't we proud? haha

Btw, it looks like we are not getting the XP.
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yeah... come this oct and it'll be 3 years. actually my z1 still serving me well after changing the battery. true that it launch apps a bit slower than newer phone and still it's not that bad that i consider it as lag. anyway i'm looking to upgrade to a dual sim, front facing speaker (got bored cupping my hand at the bottom speaker whenever watching video), and a better battery life phone

sony mobile my fb page does show a picture of 3 xperia x when they made the announcement. 1 is definitely XA. the other 2 which look identical, i assume it will be X and XP

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Feb 26 2016, 11:48 PM)
not if it's more famous here but i'm definitely looking for a dual sim phone for my next smartphone. i travel overseas for work often and a dual sim version will be definitely more convenient
yeah... come this oct and it'll be 3 years. actually my z1 still serving me well after changing the battery. true that it launch apps a bit slower than newer phone and still it's not that bad that i consider it as lag. anyway i'm looking to upgrade to a dual sim, front facing speaker (got bored cupping my hand at the bottom speaker whenever watching video), and a better battery life phone

sony mobile my fb page does show a picture of 3 xperia x when they made the announcement. 1 is definitely XA. the other 2 which look identical, i assume it will be X and XP
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i got rumors that we wont have XP.
still, let's wait for it.
anyhow, i am hoping Sony to release a successor for Z Ultra, as that's my only target to replace my aging but beloved Z Ultra.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Feb 27 2016, 12:05 AM)
i got rumors that we wont have XP.
still, let's wait for it.
anyhow, i am hoping Sony to release a successor for Z Ultra, as that's my only target to replace my aging but beloved Z Ultra.
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i think uk and germany also not getting xp. well, maybe it's true that this XP was never meant to be a flagship. by releasing only x and xa, sony is targeting mid range market only and maybe at IFA will release a true flagship model.

just my tots

and so far still no solid leaks about any z ultra replacement
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Feb 27 2016, 12:05 AM)
i got rumors that we wont have XP.
still, let's wait for it.
anyhow, i am hoping Sony to release a successor for Z Ultra, as that's my only target to replace my aging but beloved Z Ultra.
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I just hope that my aging Z1 could last until the next suitable replacement... September looks like a long wait. Anyway, I still hope that we can get the XP.

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Feb 26 2016, 11:48 PM)
not if it's more famous here but i'm definitely looking for a dual sim phone for my next smartphone. i travel overseas for work often and a dual sim version will be definitely more convenient
yeah... come this oct and it'll be 3 years. actually my z1 still serving me well after changing the battery. true that it launch apps a bit slower than newer phone and still it's not that bad that i consider it as lag. anyway i'm looking to upgrade to a dual sim, front facing speaker (got bored cupping my hand at the bottom speaker whenever watching video), and a better battery life phone

sony mobile my fb page does show a picture of 3 xperia x when they made the announcement. 1 is definitely XA. the other 2 which look identical, i assume it will be X and XP
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Dual sim is very convenient as I using it. The reason I use android instead of apple ios. I need dual sim for personal and work purpose too..
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I just hope that my aging Z1 could last until the next suitable replacement... September looks like a long wait. Anyway, I still hope that we can get the XP.
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yeah... let's say sept announce another flagship model. by the time MY release it will be oct or nov... i might just get the XP also if the price is right.
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yeah... let's say sept announce another flagship model. by the time MY release it will be oct or nov... i might just get the XP also if the price is right.
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Agree. If the price is good and really the only difference is additional 1GB RAM. I would go for the XP. Least I am holding a metal back, different from what I've been holding for close to 3 years now.
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sony mobile malaysia website already listed X and XA as coming soon. but no sign of X Performance....

http://www.sonymobile.com/my/products/phones/
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Feb 29 2016, 10:20 AM)
sony mobile malaysia website already listed X and XA as coming soon. but no sign of X Performance....

http://www.sonymobile.com/my/products/phones/
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what worries me most abt Sony is their strategy or lack of it. the 6mth cycle is a mess. Z5 only release 3mths ago. If Sony position X series as the new flagship range, it's back to 6mth cycle. more so, X Performance as top range and ppl who buy Z5 and Z5 Premium will b pissed.

i'm a big fan of Sony Omnibalance design (not so much of their skin) but the thought of holding something now and 6mths later its superseded scares me... and i m talking abt over 2k phone.

someone among the OEM must have realise that Apple has the best strategy. the S model after a major release. My HTC One M7 rocking a snapdragon 615 still work fine. my other phone rock a snapdragon 801 and i don't feel at all its 1.5years old flagship.

These confusing strategy from Sony is reason why after my TX, ive not own a Sony phone even i like Omnibalance.


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Sony Xperia X and XA UK pre-orders kick off
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With Sony's 6 month release cycle, means the price of phone will drop very fast.
I am happy to buy older generation phone at bargain price lol.
With my phone usage pattern I don't need the most recent model anyway.
Currently using Z3C and I don't feel lag or slowness at all.
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QUOTE(yushin @ Mar 3 2016, 11:44 AM)
With Sony's 6 month release cycle, means the price of phone will drop very fast.
I am happy to buy older generation phone at bargain price lol.
With my phone usage pattern I don't need the most recent model anyway.
Currently using Z3C and I don't feel lag or slowness at all.
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i second this. my z3c is still blazingly fast & snappy. and now since sony also include z3 series for marshmallow update, i think i'll stick with this phone for another year thumbsup.gif
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Hmmm

Samsung S7 Edge is already out and there's still no news on Xperia Performance even heading to over shores. I wonder if should just jump ship to Samsung. Sony's execution just sucks. Until today they still can provide any further info about launch dates.
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Mar 12 2016, 03:27 PM)
Hmmm

Samsung S7 Edge is already out and there's still no news on Xperia Performance even heading to over shores. I wonder if  should just jump ship to Samsung. Sony's execution just sucks. Until today they still can provide any further info about launch dates.
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camera samples are out. while the dynamic range and lowlight seems okay, time for Sony to fix their oil painting effect. used their A6000 and no longer wanna use phone cam to take pictures.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/04/18/xperi...camera-samples/
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QUOTE(yushin @ Mar 3 2016, 11:44 AM)
With Sony's 6 month release cycle, means the price of phone will drop very fast.
I am happy to buy older generation phone at bargain price lol.
With my phone usage pattern I don't need the most recent model anyway.
Currently using Z3C and I don't feel lag or slowness at all.
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thumbsup.gif My Z3c stilol blazing fast compared to my already starting sluggish 6 +
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sold off my z5 already haha, the camera a let down to me (my own preference) !!!! Will the X series really see the improvement ???
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interested in the X Performance here. Curious on their price tho.
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and now there's Xperia X Premium

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_x_prem...-news-17838.php
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Looks like Sony Malaysia will launch Xperia XA soon
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QUOTE(junkyman @ Apr 20 2016, 09:59 AM)
sold off my z5 already haha, the camera a let down to me (my own preference) !!!! Will the X series really see the improvement ???
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BTW, got it from their Line page. They are teasing us.
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cross my finger on the phone camera !!!!!!!! Wait actual release and review then only decide.
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QUOTE(junkyman @ Apr 20 2016, 01:23 PM)
Looks like Sony Malaysia will launch Xperia XA soon
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So now there's another X model coming in? The Xperia X Premium with HDR screen. Whatever that means haha.

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coming i will buy it ..

but next year which is the year of 2017 NEW YEAR =p

i promise hahahahhaa
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/05/04/is-th...ia-x-packaging/

They fixed the huge box that some may complained about it. rclxms.gif
Now, waiting a better camera fix.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ May 9 2016, 03:03 PM)
http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/05/04/is-th...ia-x-packaging/

They fixed the huge box that some may complained about it. rclxms.gif
Now, waiting a better camera fix.
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...more interested to know if the XP is coming to malaysia and its pricing
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...more interested to know if the XP is coming to malaysia and its pricing
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It's been announced that the XP won't make it's way to MY.
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It's been announced that the XP won't make it's way to MY.
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It's been announced that the XP won't make it's way to MY.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ May 9 2016, 05:50 PM)
We are mentioning about X Performance, not the normal X.
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coming i will buy it .. 

but next year which is the year of  2017 NEW YEAR =p

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http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/05/04/is-th...ia-x-packaging/

They fixed the huge box that some may complained about it. rclxms.gif
Now, waiting a better camera fix.
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i don't find the problems with the previous "overiszed" packaging policy

though more and more manufacturers these days follow the Apple's philosophy of packaging, everything must packed ngam ngam one, with little to no wasted space~

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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ May 11 2016, 11:25 AM)
i don't find the problems with the previous "overiszed" packaging policy

though more and more manufacturers these days follow the Apple's philosophy of packaging, everything must packed ngam ngam one, with little to no wasted space~
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Actually it's a good thing, means the contents in the box have no room knocking around inside the box.

But then, I don't have issue with big boxes also.

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5'inch dispay size?

Any ideas how and where does Xperia X better than Z5/Z5p actually?
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We are mentioning about X Performance, not the normal X.
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The reply didn't specifically says no. They just avoid mentioning the XP all together.
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i dunno why sony ditch 4k diaplay for the new flagship x performance ...
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Xperia XA Ultra - 6' inch display

Ok, keeping my eyes on this hopefully Nokia reveal their 6inch model soon

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Preview of the Sony Xperia X Performance in Japan.
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This is totally unexpected. The X beats the 10 in speed test! another video compares to G5 and the X seems like on par with G5

also there's video compare to S7 and S7 is still faster than the X.


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http://www.xda-developers.com/video-demons...peria-x-camera/
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This is totally unexpected. The X beats the 10 in speed test! another video compares to G5 and the X seems like on par with G5

also there's video compare to S7 and S7 is still faster than the X.


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It is more expensive than S7. God bless Sony.
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It is more expensive than S7. God bless Sony.
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Fuyoh. 2499.. Waa. Wonder how much is x performance then.
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It is more expensive than S7. God bless Sony.
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Review is OK but those look for high spec will not buy off with that price la.
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Wow, a 2.5k phone which can't record 4k video. It's a Sony.
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Sony dare to sell a middle range processor phone with such price! I salute Sony! Bravo! Sony!
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RM2k is ok RM2.5k is just ridiculous.
Ain't nobody knows what Sony is thinking.
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Review is OK but those look for high spec will not buy off with that price la.
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Overall is good in all aspect except the average battery life and low light shot.
The most drawback is the PRICE.
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Overall is good in all aspect except the average battery life and low light shot.
The most drawback is the PRICE.
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The price. No waterproof, overall is good and nice built. Brightness is really too bright if full bar. Just use auto brightness I believe can go more than 4 hours SOT for normal usage.

Low light shot I don't feel any problem over there. Considered a lot better than others.
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The price. No waterproof, overall is good and nice built. Brightness is really too bright if full bar. Just use auto brightness I believe can go more than 4 hours SOT for normal usage.

Low light shot I don't feel any problem over there. Considered a lot better than others.
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In that review video the reviewer said it has paint effect when it comes to lowlight.
It should put price tag at RM2099.
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In that review video the reviewer said it has paint effect when it comes to lowlight.
It should put price tag at RM2099.
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with tiny sensor of smartphone, i accept those in artificiallights or lowlight.. without zoom 100%, it is okay for social media and even print out in B5 B4 size.. most important, focus of the photo must not be blur..
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with tiny sensor of smartphone, i accept those in artificiallights or lowlight.. without zoom 100%, it is okay for social media and even print out in B5 B4 size.. most important, focus of the photo must not be blur..
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You have your points. Now just wait the pricing of X Performance.
Looking for water resistant phone.
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Sony dare to sell a middle range processor phone with such price! I salute Sony! Bravo! Sony!
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im not sure how they define their xperia x series. but definitely this is not direct competition like Snapdragon 650 chipset device, e.g. redmi note 3 vs Xperia X. Although same chipset but overall build and quality is totally different. It's more like oppo right now, normal chipset, but build quality is a lot better than other manufacturers..

in the end, up to consumer's preference. In my opinion, with this rm2499 price tag, i will rather take Z5 dual.. better spec and support IP68 waterproof.. 3gb ram, 32gb internal storage.. difference in object tracking camera and higher resolution front facing camera.. i will still go for z5 dual or z5 premium.. dual sim and separate micro sim slot..
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QUOTE(wind3524 @ Jun 6 2016, 09:40 PM)
RM2k is ok RM2.5k is just ridiculous.
Ain't nobody knows what Sony is thinking.
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QUOTE(squall_kay @ Jun 6 2016, 10:56 PM)
Their cyber troops and their management feel that despite its a midranger but it's capable to outperform flagship phone, so why not sell it at flagship price...haha hahaha
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That spec....at that price
Sony still sleeping

anyways Sony MY mentioned X Performance would not be in Msia market

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that's really ridiculous pricing. maybe sony mobile thought their product is like apple that most user don't care about the spec and just buy their brand name
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this is what we call DOA.... Death on Arrival.

and i thought HTC was mad with the A9 price. Sony juz up the bar. RM2599 you can get what is currently one of the best smartphone... S7.

X at RM2499, X Performance comes i wonder how much premium we have to pay.

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this is what we call DOA.... Death on Arrival.

and i thought HTC was mad with the A9 price.  Sony juz up the bar.  RM2599 you can get what is currently one of the best smartphone... S7.

X at RM2599, X Performance comes i wonder how much premium we have to pay.
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QUOTE(sickboy @ Jun 7 2016, 09:12 AM)
That spec....at that price
Sony still sleeping

anyways Sony MY mentioned X Performance would not be in Msia market
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Where did they mention it? I can't see it on their FB
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Agree, i rather pay rm2.5k plus for real flagship like S7 / HTC 10 rather than this piece of over price phone !!!!
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that's really ridiculous pricing. maybe sony mobile thought their product is like apple that most user don't care about the spec and just buy their brand name
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"But, the part that really gets me is the price tag that Sony has placed on their new Xperia X smartphone: RM2,499. RM2,499 for a midrange Snapdragon 650 processor (same processor as in the RM749 Xiaomi Redmi Note 3) with 3GB of RAM."
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The Xperia X is not even waterproof! Seriously, for that price I rather get the S7 non-edge. Better in every aspect.
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If SONY trying to say spec is not everything then I choose older Z2 which price at RM999 now.
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Seems like mid range device is almost same as a flagship in this game review
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Seems like mid range device is almost same as a flagship in this game review
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Snapdragon 650 series processors are quite powerful. The only drawback is weak GPU (hence no 4K encoding support).

Initially I thought it was meant to replace M5, but turned out puke.gif .

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 7 2016, 07:45 PM)
Seems like mid range device is almost same as a flagship in this game review
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but if you noticed, the S7 has better graphics. the shadows and dynamic range are better.
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It is more expensive than S7. God bless Sony.
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Gotta blame the weak ringgit
But then again, we are expecting street price to hover around 2k
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Gotta blame the weak ringgit
But then again, we are expecting street price to hover around 2k
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Gotta blame the weak ringgit
But then again, we are expecting street price to hover around 2k
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you can blame the weak RM when flagship now inching 3k. u can't say so when S7 sells for RM2599 and X going for RM2499.

it's not only MY. India also the same. ridiculous price.

Sony oh Sony... what you guys been smoking la


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Want to earn more money per phone sold aka apple way. Problem is sony don't have as many isheeps to buy thier products this tactic is going to bite them very hard in the butt.
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Jun 7 2016, 08:34 PM)
Gotta blame the weak ringgit
But then again, we are expecting street price to hover around 2k
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Nothing to blame in RM. This phone is ridiculous expensive everywhere.
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Seems like mid range device is almost same as a flagship in this game review
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Even its able to outperform those flagship devices, thus it make sense to price it at flagship price? If they have common sense, by having a midranger that capable to beat out competitors flagship and price it at more affordable price, and utilize it to market it to customers, perhaps they can sell more devices to the mass.

For me, if want to buy flagship phone and even some midrange able to best it out, I still choose the flagship for overall package. Extra 1gb ram also doen't hurt to have it.
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Jun 7 2016, 08:34 PM)
Gotta blame the weak ringgit
But then again, we are expecting street price to hover around 2k
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Typical ringgit bashers???
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QUOTE(squall_kay @ Jun 7 2016, 11:08 PM)
Even its able to outperform those flagship devices, thus it make sense to price it at flagship price? If they have common sense, by having a midranger that capable to beat out competitors flagship and price it at more affordable price, and utilize it to market it to customers, perhaps they can sell more devices to the mass.

For me, if want to buy flagship phone and even some midrange able to best it out, I still choose the flagship for overall package. Extra 1gb ram also doen't hurt to have it.
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Yup agree to this. They should price it in the mid high range and market it as the mid ranger that can compete with flagships. In my opinion it was a corporate decision to price it flagship and cheap out on specs to get more profit per phone sold regardless of public opinion. They want to be the apple in android. Question is will they survive long with this tactic?
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QUOTE(FsBadBoyz @ Jun 7 2016, 11:26 PM)
Yup agree to this. They should price it in the mid high range and market it as the mid ranger that can compete with flagships. In my opinion it was a corporate decision to price it flagship and cheap out on specs to get more profit per phone sold regardless of public opinion. They want to be the apple in android. Question is will they survive long with this tactic?
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I hope there will be backlash in terms of sales so that can teach them a lesson.
Anyway, missed the time using Sony's phone. I do like rectangular slab phone.
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Jun 7 2016, 08:17 PM)
Snapdragon 650 series processors are quite powerful. The only drawback is weak GPU (hence no 4K encoding support).

Initially I thought it was meant to replace M5, but turned out  puke.gif .
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Argh. Continue to use your m5 better. 2499 adoi. So ass pain. Cpu with A72 is powerful. But gpu in s650 is normal average.


QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 7 2016, 08:18 PM)
but if you noticed, the S7 has better graphics. the shadows and dynamic range are better.
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Different display panel. S7 got software glitches. Need optimise again. X do have powerful A72 core supported there. But gpu still is a weak point. And most importantly, the price. Rm2499 is way too high. I will rather choose Z5 Dual at 2299.

QUOTE(squall_kay @ Jun 7 2016, 11:08 PM)
Even its able to outperform those flagship devices, thus it make sense to price it at flagship price? If they have common sense, by having a midranger that capable to beat out competitors flagship and price it at more affordable price, and utilize it to market it to customers, perhaps they can sell more devices to the mass.

For me, if want to buy flagship phone and even some midrange able to best it out, I still choose the flagship for overall package. Extra 1gb ram also doen't hurt to have it.
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Just kidding Bro.. X not really able to outperform than s7 la. Just software optimisation between these 2 phones are slightly different. S7 still better than X in overall aspect. Consumers will know how to value the stuff now. Rm2499 is very very tough price.. No waterproof, lower gpu specs. Sony really confident with their camera parts. X series most advertised features was on camera predictive autofocus.
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i hope sony have another flagship device coming this IFA... if not, this will be the worst year for sony mobile to date
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 8 2016, 08:24 AM)
Argh. Continue to use your m5 better. 2499 adoi.  So ass pain. Cpu with A72 is powerful. But gpu in s650 is normal average.
Small hand + Single handed operation = Limited to compact series. brows.gif
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While Taiwan launches 3 models, and is slight cheaper compared to Malaysia.
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everytime I go to the mall and look at Sony shop I feel sad. most of the time the shop either empty or got only 1-2 customers. looks like the X screams more like a NO instead.
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The xa and xa ultra still got alil hope but x really no saving. Sony practically dug thier grave then jump in and wait for consumers to bury them with the x series line up. The product line up using mtk soc but priced much higher then chinese brands using the same soc with the camera as the main selling point. Heck even most of the chinese brands are using snapdragons at that price point.
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From a business perspective, it's not easy as consumer think.

The cost of a phone cannot compare like A with A ( Snapdragon 650 vs 650 in this case).
First, structural design, hardware design.. PCB trial, software design, packing material design, inspection, certification, volume production. in every stage, do have any customise parts will incur extra costs.

It's like from motherboard, screen, camera, housing, battery, and a lot a lot of elements from components selection.



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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 8 2016, 06:06 PM)
From a business perspective, it's not easy as consumer think.

The cost of a phone cannot compare like A with A ( Snapdragon 650 vs 650 in this case).
First, structural design, hardware design.. PCB trial, software design, packing material design, inspection, certification, volume production. in every stage, do have any customise parts will incur extra costs.

It's like from motherboard, screen, camera, housing, battery, and a lot a lot of elements from components selection.
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Wah dont tell me thier chinese counterparts do not do the same and just copy what sony does? If im not mistaken you work in Intel no? So you should also know the majority of bom cost is always never more then 2/3(highest i have seen) of enduser price for consumer product. So don't tell me sony is so bad in thier economies to scale that they lose out to Chinese companys that sell products within asian region vs worldwide to sony?
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QUOTE(FsBadBoyz @ Jun 8 2016, 11:54 PM)
Wah dont tell me thier chinese counterparts do not do the same and just copy what sony does? If im not mistaken you work in Intel no? So you should also know the majority of bom cost is always never more then 2/3(highest i have seen) of enduser price for consumer product. So don't tell me sony is so bad in thier economies to scale that they lose out to Chinese companys that sell products within asian region vs worldwide to sony?
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I don't know about the their companies and I can't comment much. From consumer perspective, the price for x is too high. This is from surface level. From business perspective, stakeholder aim to maximise the profit. I just wish to say that don't just compare on white paper. Cost is the critical parts for all companies. The components are the crucial factors. Seem like Sony have to take deep consideration on their components selection. Cost do have relationship with volume as well. Deep business acumen over here

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 9 2016, 12:39 AM)
I don't know about the their companies and I can't comment much. From consumer perspective, the price for x is too high. This is from surface level. From business perspective, stakeholder aim to maximise the profit. I just wish to say that don't just compare on white paper. Cost is the critical parts for all companies. The components are the crucial factors. Seem like Sony have to take deep consideration on their components selection. Cost do have relationship with volume as well. Deep business acumen over here
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This is company issue, majority consumer don't care about it. By the way they is nothing wow component inside Sony Xperia X, others company can do it means they shall able to do it, if they can't that is their problem. As a consumer why we need to care all about this, this is not consumer problem.

The decision maker make the wrong decision need to responsible for the company. A good company shall do more research, check current market price and know what consumer want, also nowadays consumer is not stupid, consumer know to compare and pick the best, simply jack up the price because as you said possible cost issue, this is not something consumer shall compensate on it.

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Agreed with andrewtst and chuanhong. Both has sound argument but as andrewtst mention that as consumer no one cares about how the company source the components and volume only care the specs,pricing n performance. But i still can't see why sony muz price thier product so high given the highly competitive market. Imho they are trying to maximise profit per phone sold like what apple is doing. Problem is ios is only sold by apple and no one else. Sony is not selling ios but android. Two different market. They are milking thier own hardcore fan to the max. As for the normal consumer who is not brand specific will shy away from this pricing. As the chinese brands keep catching up this won't do sony any good. The question will be why buy sony when the chinese brands can achieve that same user experience and quality half the price or even lower then half.
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yeah.. i just voice out from company perspective only..

each company do have their own strengths, weaknesses and others.. like what we learned and heard normally - SWOT analysis. Sony is totally under perform from analysis..

The future in mobile industry i can foresee are depend on Huawei & Samsung. They leading in most critical parts, wireless communication, memory/parts provider

For X model, really overpriced in my opinion.. But people may look forward on XA and XA ultra

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 9 2016, 12:39 AM)
I don't know about the their companies and I can't comment much. From consumer perspective, the price for x is too high. This is from surface level. From business perspective, stakeholder aim to maximise the profit. I just wish to say that don't just compare on white paper. Cost is the critical parts for all companies. The components are the crucial factors. Seem like Sony have to take deep consideration on their components selection. Cost do have relationship with volume as well. Deep business acumen over here
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So you're saying that it is on the consumer's part to bear the cost for Sony while they generate enough volumes? May be true from a monopoly perspective but in a perfect competition, Sony has officially sounded their death knell. Nokia once said that too. More features, superior components. Besides, their video recording overheats and their camera low light is subpar.

From what I have gathered before, the pricing was to distinguish them away from the Chinese phones. So people would be curious. Of course, that won't be as soon as they had a head to head comparison with other models. Snapdragon 6series used to be the high end chipset before the announcement of the 800 variant. So IMO is Sony is still living in the past.
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Too expensive is too expensive..I had high hopes on the price when seeing the spec sheet (Snapdragon 650) combined with Sony build and battery life....Now I can just look elsewhere.
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jun 9 2016, 09:01 AM)
So you're saying that it is on the consumer's part to bear the cost for Sony while they generate enough volumes? May be true from a monopoly perspective but in a perfect competition, Sony has officially sounded their death knell. Nokia once said that too. More features, superior components. Besides, their video recording overheats and their camera low light is subpar.

From what I have gathered before, the pricing was to distinguish them away from the Chinese phones. So people would be curious. Of course, that won't be as soon as they had a head to head comparison with other models. Snapdragon 6series used to be the high end chipset before the announcement of the 800 variant. So IMO is Sony is still living in the past.
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I guess Sony is doing gambling.. If no sales, end up with loss and same route as Nokia.. They are good and talented.. But business nowadays had changed.. if they dont plan to change, really will follow as Nokia
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japan brand cannot simply bow down to korean. must put high price to maintain premium brand.
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Des why they are bleeding to death. Price premium but nothing special compared to competition. That xa ultra is the new 6in flagship but specs so poor. Barely an upgrade from the zultra. Its like this model was designed to replace zultra q1 last year not this year.
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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Jun 9 2016, 02:20 PM)
japan brand cannot simply bow down to korean. must put high price to maintain premium brand.
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I guess Sony is doing gambling.. If no sales, end up with loss and same route as Nokia.. They are good and talented.. But business nowadays had changed.. if they dont plan to change, really will follow as Nokia
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I think they are stupid. Oh well, if Z5 gets below 2k I might just get Z5.
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attended the training few weeks ago. a solid and premium feel device, but when pricing reveals....i think i better sell Z5.

highly confirmed that Sony Mobile hired the wrong people to price and market their phones. doh.gif

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So much tech but failed to execute properly. Kinda remind me of an old movie called final fantasy...
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 9 2016, 10:57 PM)
attended the training few weeks ago. a solid and premium feel device, but when pricing reveals....i think i better sell Z5.

highly confirmed that Sony Mobile hired the wrong people to price and market their phones. doh.gif
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Or they just plain ignorant?
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 9 2016, 10:57 PM)
attended the training few weeks ago. a solid and premium feel device, but when pricing reveals....i think i better sell Z5.

highly confirmed that Sony Mobile hired the wrong people to price and market their phones. doh.gif
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so during the training, putting the price aside, what is the main selling point of xperia X?
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kinda sad to say it out.... but still have to say it..... bye.gif bye.gif SONY
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QUOTE(squall_kay @ Jun 10 2016, 05:52 AM)
You guys didn't feedback to them?
Or they just plain ignorant?
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so during the training, putting the price aside, what is the main selling point of xperia X?
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The design (I'm giving a point at here, has a very good feel on hand)

I am highly confident this year is a bad year for Sony Mobile.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 10 2016, 11:06 AM)
It's wiser for me to feedback once the product is starting to sell, otherwise there will be issues.
The camera features (nothing to shout for me)
The design (I'm giving a point at here, has a very good feel on hand)

I am highly confident this year is a bad year for Sony Mobile.
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Xs, XAs & XA-Ultra(s)... laugh.gif


i guess SONY MOBILE would be closing down very sooooooooooon. if this X SERIES can't help to boost their sales. sad to say that but have to say that.... whistling.gif


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QUOTE(Cruxs @ Jun 10 2016, 11:21 AM)
None can beat Z Ultra design
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Actually based on a number of testing and comparison videos between Xperia X and other brands flagships on youtube, the Xperia X is not too shabby and I personally really like how the build looks and promising point-and-shoot camera functions.

If Sony Mobile price it right I definitely get it even its lower spec than other flagships
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 10 2016, 11:06 AM)
It's wiser for me to feedback once the product is starting to sell, otherwise there will be issues.
The camera features (nothing to shout for me)
The design (I'm giving a point at here, has a very good feel on hand)

I am highly confident this year is a bad year for Sony Mobile.
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Well the price range for the X really puts people off, but from youtube early reviews who manage to get it a week ago, seems like most of them are happy with it and some say its comparable with SD810 at least. Software is greatly optimized and performance-wise its on par with flagships phone.

If only Sony placed it in the mid-range range (maybe slightly above the M5), Sony would have ta-pao-ed pretty much every single competition in the mid-range category.

Pity, a missed opportunity.



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they will never learn, they still think they are premium brand
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I wander how is that proper optimised adreno510 going to beat adreno530?
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jun 10 2016, 03:00 PM)
aiyo... u also say like that, sony sure die straight straight lor
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Z5 still okay for me but for the X, I just want to do my job only 'so sorry. I can't help you on this'.

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I cannot help them if they don't want to help themselves.. :v
Z5 still okay for me but for the X, I just want to do my job only 'so sorry. I can't help you on this'.
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No you can help us.when sales not doing well you can feed back kau kau mia to sony malaysia.you as a sony user and seller should know what they are doing wrong no?
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Hence, previously mentioned, i will only start to feedback like crazy once it starts selling.
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Seem like X also got overheat control set by Sony in its software.. But surprisingly Z5 series Snapdragon 810 overheat monster that mentioned by most people are perform better..

*All video are record based on 1080p 60 fps in the test.. not sure which android version for each phone so no comment on that..
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got a hands on the X today during the sony sneak peek at the curve. have to say the X does not impress me at all.

putting aside the price, somehow it doesn't feel premium to me at all. it just feel like other ordinary phone. the 2.5D glass and metal back... it just doesn't feel as premium as other competitor's offering. sad to say i'm even more impress with the in hand feel of samsung galaxy A series...

the heavily advertised predictive autofocus is inconsistent. i find myself having a hard time clicking the object to focus. fail case more than successful.

after the event, i go on to play with the z5 and i must say i'm more satisfied with the z5 than the x... too bad sony...
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Pretty much any good thing that Sony talks about their camera ability is bullshit. At this point in time, their lies is getting out of hand.
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jun 13 2016, 05:27 PM)
Pretty much any good thing that Sony talks about their camera ability is bullshit. At this point in time, their lies is getting out of hand.
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I've tested it and this phone is clearly not my type. But this is just me personally. Others may think otherwise
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QUOTE(Cruxs @ Jun 10 2016, 11:21 AM)
None can beat Z Ultra design
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jun 10 2016, 04:06 PM)
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Just tried Xperia X out last weekend at the Curve. I own a M5 now, and although a lot of online reviews seems to say Xperia X is a (overpriced) replacement for M5, I feel the Xperia X is a lot more refined compared to my M5. The camera is a lot faster shot-to-shot, faster than Z5 even.

I also like the curved screen better than on M5/Z5.
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QUOTE(kiwlm @ Jun 20 2016, 10:07 AM)
Just tried Xperia X out last weekend at the Curve. I own a M5 now, and although a lot of online reviews seems to say Xperia X is a (overpriced) replacement for M5, I feel the Xperia X is a lot more refined compared to my M5. The camera is a lot faster shot-to-shot, faster than Z5 even.

I also like the curved screen better than on M5/Z5.
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Still very hard to justify its flagship price. No sane company will put mid range hardware in to "flagship" device. The adreno510 just dont have the raw power. If they launch at 2099 still acceptable(still overpriced but hey its a sony). But not 2499.
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QUOTE(kiwlm @ Jun 20 2016, 10:07 AM)
Just tried Xperia X out last weekend at the Curve. I own a M5 now, and although a lot of online reviews seems to say Xperia X is a (overpriced) replacement for M5, I feel the Xperia X is a lot more refined compared to my M5. The camera is a lot faster shot-to-shot, faster than Z5 even.

I also like the curved screen better than on M5/Z5.
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the X is a good phone BUT the price shouldn't be exceeding 2k mark.
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QUOTE(kiwlm @ Jun 20 2016, 10:07 AM)
Just tried Xperia X out last weekend at the Curve. I own a M5 now, and although a lot of online reviews seems to say Xperia X is a (overpriced) replacement for M5, I feel the Xperia X is a lot more refined compared to my M5. The camera is a lot faster shot-to-shot, faster than Z5 even.

I also like the curved screen better than on M5/Z5.
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It is a good phone but not the price. Middle range spec with high end price equal to suicide.
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probably the brand itself already cost half of the phone
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QUOTE(FsBadBoyz @ Jun 20 2016, 10:38 AM)
Still very hard to justify its flagship price. No sane company will put mid range hardware in to "flagship" device. The adreno510 just dont have the raw power. If they launch at 2099 still acceptable(still overpriced but hey its a sony). But not 2499.
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I remember S7 launched with the 3099 price tag.
And cheapest iPhone 6s is 3199.

I guess Sony now also think that 2499 will be mid range and maybe X Performance going to come in at 3099 or 3199.
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QUOTE(kiwlm @ Jun 20 2016, 03:03 PM)
I remember S7 launched with the 3099 price tag.
And cheapest iPhone 6s is 3199.

I guess Sony now also think that 2499 will be mid range and maybe X Performance going to come in at 3099 or 3199.
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No need qoute iphone ba. No one else except apple sells em. Problem is sony malaysia says no plans of bringing in xp. So x is the new flagship. New flagship but mid range specs. Then why in the world sd800 series exist when sd600 can do the job just as good? 2499 and above is in the sd800 series price range. How to compare s7e with x? The normal s7 is just rm200 away and that is a full fledged flagship minus the edge screen. Sure lagwiz is not fully optimized as sony but that's the only point sony had over its closest competition in that price range.
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QUOTE(FsBadBoyz @ Jun 20 2016, 03:38 PM)
No need qoute iphone ba. No one else except apple sells em. Problem is sony malaysia says no plans of bringing in xp. So x is the new flagship. New flagship but mid range specs. Then why in the world sd800 series exist when sd600 can do the job just as good? 2499 and above is in the sd800 series price range. How to compare s7e with x? The normal s7 is just rm200 away and that is a full fledged flagship minus the edge screen. Sure lagwiz is not fully optimized as sony but that's the only point sony had over its closest competition in that price range.
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Lagwiz has too much bloatware. My friend's S7 Edge comes with 4GB RAM and u only get 500MB RAM after a fresh reboot. What a piece of crap. Then there's always the big question like where has all the RAM gone too? Even my Sony with 2GB RAM has 600MB RAM. That's why I will never consider a Samsung ever.
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i think i will go for xperia x performance smile.gif
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for the X, this time the screen is better. the contrast is good and has deeper blacks.
X Performance will be much better.

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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jun 22 2016, 09:06 AM)
Lagwiz has too much bloatware. My friend's S7 Edge comes with 4GB RAM and u only get 500MB RAM after a fresh reboot. What a piece of crap. Then there's always the big question like where has all the RAM gone too? Even my Sony with 2GB RAM has 600MB RAM. That's why I will never consider a Samsung ever.
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jun 22 2016, 09:06 AM)
Lagwiz has too much bloatware. My friend's S7 Edge comes with 4GB RAM and u only get 500MB RAM after a fresh reboot. What a piece of crap. Then there's always the big question like where has all the RAM gone too? Even my Sony with 2GB RAM has 600MB RAM. That's why I will never consider a Samsung ever.
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500mb from boot? S7 Edge lag? Hahaha! Please stop talk nonsense.

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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jun 22 2016, 09:06 AM)
Lagwiz has too much bloatware. My friend's S7 Edge comes with 4GB RAM and u only get 500MB RAM after a fresh reboot. What a piece of crap. Then there's always the big question like where has all the RAM gone too? Even my Sony with 2GB RAM has 600MB RAM. That's why I will never consider a Samsung ever.
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Don't know bout s7e but my a7(06) got insta,fb,fbmessenger,chrome (14tabs), tumblr,wechat,line,whasap,skype,utube,twitter running in the background. Still have 920mb to spare. Btw nowdays after fresh reboot the apps still running. You need to manually close it. As for my 2gb ram sony i got social media running only so can get around 700mb to 950mb free most of the time. But lagwiz undoubtedly still stutters every now and then on the new ui. As long as no bad lagging why even bother bout free ram?
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jun 22 2016, 09:06 AM)
Lagwiz has too much bloatware. My friend's S7 Edge comes with 4GB RAM and u only get 500MB RAM after a fresh reboot. What a piece of crap. Then there's always the big question like where has all the RAM gone too? Even my Sony with 2GB RAM has 600MB RAM. That's why I will never consider a Samsung ever.
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I don't know where you got this info but during my days with S7E, i still have 1.1GB left under heavy multitasking. Not to defend samsung but it's true.

Anyway, our Xperia X comes with 64GB internal memory, while some countries get 32GB only.
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QUOTE(FsBadBoyz @ Jun 20 2016, 03:38 PM)
No need qoute iphone ba. No one else except apple sells em. Problem is sony malaysia says no plans of bringing in xp. So x is the new flagship. New flagship but mid range specs. Then why in the world sd800 series exist when sd600 can do the job just as good? 2499 and above is in the sd800 series price range. How to compare s7e with x? The normal s7 is just rm200 away and that is a full fledged flagship minus the edge screen. Sure lagwiz is not fully optimized as sony but that's the only point sony had over its closest competition in that price range.
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Well, there are still android manufacturers that target iPhones, although they are becoming more and more rare. Why I like quoting iPhones because Apple is very good at making great experience phones with non high end hardware. They are able to be smoother with just 1GB of RAM for so long while an android with 2GB of RAM will lag.

A lot of phones also boast their spec so they sound good on paper, but they actually tuned it down to save battery. 4K in Z5, 6GB RAM in OnePlus, what else?

I guess Sony felt that its time to concentrate on the experience other than the specs, but having said that, how successful is this, we will have to wait and see.
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jun 22 2016, 09:06 AM)
Lagwiz has too much bloatware. My friend's S7 Edge comes with 4GB RAM and u only get 500MB RAM after a fresh reboot. What a piece of crap. Then there's always the big question like where has all the RAM gone too? Even my Sony with 2GB RAM has 600MB RAM. That's why I will never consider a Samsung ever.
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Coming from a Nexus, I find even Sony have too many services running. lol.

I will also never consider a Samsung, because of the swapped two buttons though.
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QUOTE(kiwlm @ Jun 22 2016, 02:34 PM)
Well, there are still android manufacturers that target iPhones, although they are becoming more and more rare. Why I like quoting iPhones because Apple is very good at making great experience phones with non high end hardware. They are able to be smoother with just 1GB of RAM for so long while an android with 2GB of RAM will lag.

A lot of phones also boast their spec so they sound good on paper, but they actually tuned it down to save battery. 4K in Z5, 6GB RAM in OnePlus, what else?

I guess Sony felt that its time to concentrate on the experience other than the specs, but having said that, how successful is this, we will have to wait and see.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 22 2016, 01:41 PM)
I don't know where you got this info but during my days with S7E, i still have 1.1GB left under heavy multitasking. Not to defend samsung but it's true.

Anyway, our Xperia X comes with 64GB internal memory, while some countries get 32GB only.
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jun 22 2016, 03:43 PM)
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Seems like the x performance will be heading to uk (limited) and Germany which initially was not their plan. Not sure if Sony MY will change their plan.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/06/22/xperi...many-after-all/
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jun 22 2016, 09:06 AM)
Lagwiz has too much bloatware. My friend's S7 Edge comes with 4GB RAM and u only get 500MB RAM after a fresh reboot. What a piece of crap. Then there's always the big question like where has all the RAM gone too? Even my Sony with 2GB RAM has 600MB RAM. That's why I will never consider a Samsung ever.
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since s6/s6e time, i dont feel lag stuff. for s7e, i would say, lag? what's that.
i have over 80apps installed, after reboot always have between 1.4-1.9gb free ram.
so, either your friend phone have problem or he/she do not how to manage.

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On side note, my old Z2 (recently sell it off) with Android 6, perform pretty smooth for its age. Cannot compare with modern smartphone but consider good compared to those phone during its time.

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jun 23 2016, 11:31 AM)
Seems like the x performance will be heading to uk (limited) and Germany which initially was not their plan. Not sure if Sony MY will change their plan.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/06/22/xperi...many-after-all/
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Not sure what's their whole logic of not releasing it everywhere, licensing perhaps?

The Z5 also have not been to US, very strange.

Or someone who knows care to enlighten?

I still prefer X to X Performance though, 64 GB RAM, and also Radio!!! I use radio to watch tv quietly when my son is asleep.
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jun 22 2016, 03:43 PM)
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User problem I would say
I had about 100+ app on my ex S7e and each reboot I always have about 1.8gb ram left
500mb is way too low and funny!!
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http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/06/23/3-t...nal-smartphone/

Sony now seems to say the X Performance battery wont last as long as X and XA, they removed the 2 days battery life as well.
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QUOTE(kiwlm @ Jun 23 2016, 10:06 PM)
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/06/23/3-t...nal-smartphone/

Sony now seems to say the X Performance battery wont last as long as X and XA, they removed the 2 days battery life as well.
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Is XA ultra coming to Malaysia?
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Is XA ultra coming to Malaysia?
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Price will be RM1699.
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thing is the X and XA probably struggle to last the whole day
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Lol, it can if you make it a dumb phone.

Yeah, but now you know the X Performance battery life is more sucky.

Hopefully this is not the effect of limiting the screen (and body) size to 5 inch and using a higher end processor.
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QUOTE(kiwlm @ Jun 24 2016, 01:41 PM)
Lol, it can if you make it a dumb phone.

Yeah, but now you know the X Performance battery life is more sucky.

Hopefully this is not the effect of limiting the screen (and body) size to 5 inch and using a higher end processor.
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But then, the SD820 is quite a power hungry chip.

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Anyway, just bought Xperia X! Got a 64gb sdcard as a free gift together with the transparent case and screen protector.

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Anyway, just bought Xperia X! Got a 64gb sdcard as a free gift together with the transparent case and screen protector.
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QUOTE(kiwlm @ Jun 27 2016, 01:28 PM)
Anyway, just bought Xperia X! Got a 64gb sdcard as a free gift together with the transparent case and screen protector.
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i guess you're the one who purchase it.. give some user's review from your usage although i had molest the xperia X in Sony centre and do some quick comparison with Z5 Premium..
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jun 27 2016, 03:40 PM)
Review review!!
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If you have any specific questions please ask. Will try my best to answer.

I was using M5 previously. So that's what I am comparing against.

1. The screen is a lot nicer, more white, and more sharp. Even though they are technically the same specs.

2. The touch screen is a lot more responsive, very noticeable when using keyboard.

3. The NFC have been swapped to the front, guess got pros and cons, pros is now I can use a case, cons is it might be a bit awkward.

4. The original sony stamina mode is gone, but battery life seems good (need longer), not sure is it due to Sony or Marsmallow.

5. Haven't have time to play with the Camera yet.
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QUOTE(Slick69 @ Jun 27 2016, 11:29 PM)
Is it worth it? Plan to buy.

And......
MOAR REVIEW PLEASE! XD

-Gaming performance
-camera
-wi-fi strength,
-bugs
-game-compatabilityness
-speaker's sound detail(does it crack at high volume?)
-call quality

Anything at all,please....wink.gif
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i only can give some slight review based on shop's display.

Gaming performance wont be the best at quality but definitely it wont lag.
Camera is snappier but the oil painting effect doesn't look nice when zoomed in. Dynamic range is better but colors not as good as Z5.
Speaker is at the soft side but the quality doesn't suffer even at max volume.
Call quality is good, as good as most flagships.

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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jun 22 2016, 03:43 PM)
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Fresh reboot impossible will be left only 500+MB.

After sometimes it will use more and this is normal, else those RAM will be waste. As long proper manage and proper release won't harm the performance is the correct movement. What for left plenty waste RAM there, unless you really high when see big amount RAM left.

FRESH REBOOT shall be available around 1.7GB.

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QUOTE(Slick69 @ Jun 27 2016, 11:29 PM)
Is it worth it? Plan to buy.

And......
MOAR REVIEW PLEASE! XD

-Gaming performance
-camera
-wi-fi strength,
-bugs
-game-compatabilityness
-speaker's sound detail(does it crack at high volume?)
-call quality

Anything at all,please....wink.gif
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I don't play games that much. tongue.gif

Will take a few pictures this weekend to try out the camera.

Haven't seen any bugs so far.

Wifi seems good. My previous M5 have this issue where sometimes the Wifi even though it is on, it can't see any access points, and need a reboot. This one does not have such issue yet so far.

I felt almost like an iPhone user buying this phone, caring less and less about specs, and more "faith".

The fingerprint sensor needs a bit getting used to, the power button is recessed, so I can't really press it if I put my whole thumb over it, so now I actually use the left tip of my thumb to press it.

Having the fingerprint sensor on the power button also give me small issue. When a whatsapp message come in, in my old phone, I will press power, then I can see the whatsapp notificaiton on the lockscreen, then I double tap it, and put in my pattern, then it will bring me to WhatsApp.

If I use the fingerprint now, once I press the power button with my thumb, it will unlock straight, and go back to my home screen, where I need to go and find and launch WhatsApp. Good thing that this phone have a double tap to wake phone, which I am currently trying out.

Battery life is pretty amazing, I unplugged my phone around 8am on Monday, and yesterday didn't charge it, this morning the phone still have about 60%. Think my previous M5 will go to about 20%. Though it is still new and the battery review is not conclusive yet.

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I don't play games that much. tongue.gif

Will take a few pictures this weekend to try out the camera.

Haven't seen any bugs so far.

Wifi seems good. My previous M5 have this issue where sometimes the Wifi even though it is on, it can't see any access points, and need a reboot. This one does not have such issue yet so far.

I felt almost like an iPhone user buying this phone, caring less and less about specs, and more "faith".

The fingerprint sensor needs a bit getting used to, the power button is recessed, so I can't really press it if I put my whole thumb over it, so now I actually use the left tip of my thumb to press it.

Having the fingerprint sensor on the power button also give me small issue. When a whatsapp message come in, in my old phone, I will press power, then I can see the whatsapp notificaiton on the lockscreen, then I double tap it, and put in my pattern, then it will bring me to WhatsApp.

If I use the fingerprint now, once I press the power button with my thumb, it will unlock straight, and go back to my home screen, where I need to go and find and launch WhatsApp. Good thing that this phone have a double tap to wake phone, which I am currently trying out.

Battery life is pretty amazing, I unplugged my phone around 8am on Monday, and yesterday didn't charge it, this morning the phone still have about 60%. Think my previous M5 will go to about 20%. Though it is still new and the battery review is not conclusive yet.
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QUOTE(sonyfanzz @ Jun 28 2016, 03:35 PM)
this is XP or X? ohmy.gif
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X. XP is not available yet in Malaysia, and I got turned off when I found out the 2 days battery life tag was removed for XP.
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will it be compact version for x series?
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will it be compact version for x series?
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Don't think so, I remember reading that Sony have concluded that 5 inch is the perfect size.

Actually for me, 5 inch is the sweet spot, not 4.7 and not 5.2.
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QUOTE(kiwlm @ Jun 30 2016, 09:34 PM)
Don't think so, I remember reading that Sony have concluded that 5 inch is the perfect size.

Actually for me, 5 inch is the sweet spot, not 4.7 and not 5.2.
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Some other manufacturers can fit 5.1 or 5.2 inch size screen in same (or negligible difference) footprint as Sony's phone.
Perhaps their studies were carried out based on their chunky bezel. Lol
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QUOTE(kiwlm @ Jun 30 2016, 09:34 PM)
Don't think so, I remember reading that Sony have concluded that 5 inch is the perfect size.

Actually for me, 5 inch is the sweet spot, not 4.7 and not 5.2.
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QUOTE(squall_kay @ Jul 1 2016, 05:10 AM)
Some other manufacturers can fit 5.1 or 5.2 inch size screen in same (or negligible difference) footprint as Sony's phone.
Perhaps their studies were carried out based on their chunky bezel. Lol
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Lol, they are very sensitive about their own design.

When I switched from Nexus 5 to Xperia M5, both 5 inch screens, yeah, I noticed that the phone is bigger, because Sony decided that the top and bottom should be symmetrical. It takes a while to get used to, but I am happy after that.

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QUOTE(kiwlm @ Jul 1 2016, 11:57 AM)
Lol, they are very sensitive about their own design.

When I switched from Nexus 5 to Xperia M5, both 5 inch screens, yeah, I noticed that the phone is bigger, because Sony decided that the top and bottom should be symmetrical. It takes a while to get used to, but I am happy after that.
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i also do like symmetrical design. thats why used to be Xperia proud owner (converted my whole family to use xperia) but thats not an excuse to slim down or fit bigger screen in same foot print. others can do, why this Jap's giant can't do. Lol.
waiting for more remarkable Xperia with better pricing.
now my phone brand preferences already changed to Samsung and Huawei
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I found something different in the X's panel. Different colors have different white balance. The one i found on graphite black offers a much true to white screen, while the rest of the colors have slight blue cast over the white.

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 1 2016, 04:01 PM)
I found something different in the X's panel. Different colors have different white balance. The one i found on graphite black offers a much true to white screen, while the rest of the colors have slight blue cast over the white.
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Well I have a black and a white, you want me to compare? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kiwlm @ Jul 1 2016, 05:39 PM)
Well I have a black and a white, you want me to compare? biggrin.gif
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But then, you might wanna compare as well as a reference. icon_rolleyes.gif
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As promised, here are some pictures that I have taken with the Xperia X with auto mode last weekend.

Two things
The object tracking is totally useless, it could not lock on to my kid gliding around even after repeated press. So I have gave up using it.

The camera felt really snappy when compared to my previous M5. I have compared it in store to a Z5 before and it is faster than the Z5. So this is the most important thing I wanted from a camera from my phone.

As for the quality of the shots, leave it to you guys to decide. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(kiwlm @ Jul 4 2016, 11:13 AM)
The object tracking is totally useless, it could not lock on to my kid gliding around even after repeated press. So I have gave up using it.
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if the object is moving slowly, you will able to track it.
EDIT : but a 'hyperactive' kid may not able to successfully lock.
however, it is not as good as my A6000 which with a press of a button, it tracks the object intelligently and fast.

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If the phone can do what A6000 can do then no need to buy the digital camera already lol
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 4 2016, 03:07 PM)
if the object is moving slowly, you will able to track it.
EDIT : but a 'hyperactive' kid may not able to successfully lock.
however, it is not as good as my A6000 which with a press of a button, it tracks the object intelligently and fast.
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Well, I tried to "track" when my son is stationary, somehow it keep locking into other stuffs, not near the place I touch at all.

I have a feeling this tracking is also made complicated by the small sensor with big depth of field. I own the A5100 and I think it can decide the boundary by just looking at which parts is in focus and which parts not. This is obvious by the fact that the locking work less and less accurately on the A5100 when the aperture is made smaller and smaller.

Yeah, and in A5100 I don't need to initiate the Lock on AF most of the time, it manage to find the object that I want to focus 95% of the time. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 4 2016, 03:52 PM)
If the phone can do what A6000 can do then no need to buy the digital camera already lol
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QUOTE(kiwlm @ Jul 4 2016, 11:13 AM)
As promised, here are some pictures that I have taken with the Xperia X with auto mode last weekend.

Two things
The object tracking is totally useless, it could not lock on to my kid gliding around even after repeated press. So I have gave up using it.

The camera felt really snappy when compared to my previous M5. I have compared it in store to a Z5 before and it is faster than the Z5. So this is the most important thing I wanted from a camera from my phone.

As for the quality of the shots, leave it to you guys to decide. tongue.gif
Looks like the corner sharpness is rather decent. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 4 2016, 03:07 PM)
if the object is moving slowly, you will able to track it.
EDIT : but a 'hyperactive' kid may not able to successfully lock.
however, it is not as good as my A6000 which with a press of a button, it tracks the object intelligently and fast.
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lol I thought you were talking about this http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_a6000-6938.php
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QUOTE(Fuyuhotaru @ Jul 5 2016, 03:47 PM)
lol I thought you were talking about this http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_a6000-6938.php
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Ah Hahahaha. Nay nay, not that one.
BTW, just comparing a feature with my camera with Xperia X's predictive hybrid autofocus.
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I just play this phone and it actually nice looking and smooth but the price is so sorry, I won't buy.
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Oh yeah, there's this "promotion" thing happening about 1 year warranty to the screen. If you own a Xperia previously. I do own a Xperia M5, but when I go through the steps to register for the warranty, it doesn't ask for the IMEI of my old phone at all.
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Jul 14 2016, 07:13 PM)
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Not available yet. doh.gif
Anyway, i won't buy it. My Z Ultra is light years ahead of it. laugh.gif
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Not available yet. doh.gif
Anyway, i won't buy it. My Z Ultra is light years ahead of it. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Jul 14 2016, 08:13 PM)
Friend's Z Ultra just died and finding for replacement, but seems like no phone can beat it's screen and GPU (he is a heavy gamer). laugh.gif
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Why not get Z5P? Still superior what. laugh.gif
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Why not get Z5P? Still superior what. laugh.gif
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Letting him to choose between Desire 830 and A9 Pro.

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Overbudget  biggrin.gif
Letting him to choose between Desire 830 and A9 Pro.

P/S : C5 Ultra has battery drain issue?  hmm.gif
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no idea, but C5 Ultra would easily last any users a day of normal use.
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Users from mobile01 claims the battery drain is too fast, I also heard that from others. blush.gif
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Jul 14 2016, 11:13 PM)
Users from mobile01 claims the battery drain is too fast, I also heard that from others.  blush.gif
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alright, just got few complains about it, on the spot. but, majority satisfied with the phone overall. wink.gif

anyway, did Sony answered my prayers for a successor to my Z Ultra?
http://www.gsmarena.com/exclusive_sony_xpe...-news-19465.php
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 18 2016, 09:49 PM)
alright, just got few complains about it, on the spot. but, majority satisfied with the phone overall. wink.gif

anyway, did Sony answered my prayers for a successor to my Z Ultra?
http://www.gsmarena.com/exclusive_sony_xpe...-news-19465.php
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this looks huge. any idea what's the screen size like?
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jul 19 2016, 01:53 PM)
this looks huge. any idea what's the screen size like?
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There was another leak here:
https://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=g...&testgroup=info

The screen size stated is 5.1 inch.

Well, it really looked like X Performance 2, besides the fact that it seems to be using the 21MP camera from M5 instead of the 23MP from Z5/X.
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jul 19 2016, 01:53 PM)
this looks huge. any idea what's the screen size like?
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Somewhere between 5.5 - 5.7
Just assumption...

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 18 2016, 09:49 PM)
alright, just got few complains about it, on the spot. but, majority satisfied with the phone overall. wink.gif

anyway, did Sony answered my prayers for a successor to my Z Ultra?
http://www.gsmarena.com/exclusive_sony_xpe...-news-19465.php
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Ah, I see biggrin.gif

Looks like another 5 inch, not the 6 inch. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Jul 19 2016, 04:20 PM)
Ah, I see biggrin.gif

Looks like another 5 inch, not the 6 inch.  sweat.gif
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well, i hope it will be larger than that. im more of a phablet guy. laugh.gif
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from this pic it sure looks big, like 5.5inch and above
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but from these pic it looks like a 5incher screen
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jul 20 2016, 10:33 AM)
from this pic it sure looks big, like 5.5inch and above

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jul 20 2016, 10:33 AM)
from this pic it sure looks big, like 5.5inch and above
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but from these pic it looks like a 5incher screen
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It looks like 5.5" to me.
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jul 20 2016, 10:33 AM)
from this pic it sure looks big, like 5.5inch and above
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but from these pic it looks like a 5incher screen
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Was a Sony pro-fan, but if they were gonna release this.. they might as well shut the whole mobile department altogether. Not to mention, the premium pricing they positioning is horrendous for the product value they offer.
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The home screen seems to be using Google Now Launcher.
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Bought a XA, since I got a nice offer on it and my One M7 is dying. Honestly I'm a little underwhelmed after using the M7 for soo long. It feels a bit sluggish at times, although I know at that price point I can't really complain much but hmmmmm.
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QUOTE(ryanice8888 @ Jul 20 2016, 11:44 AM)
Man, was hoping sony to come out with a good design phones. This one is just horrible.

Was a Sony pro-fan, but if they were gonna release this.. they might as well shut the whole mobile department altogether. Not to mention, the premium pricing they positioning is horrendous for the product value they offer.
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Looks better to me, especially that metal unibody design.
However, one of the design changes i can't approve of is the NFC placement. Placing it on the front is awkwardly funny.
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Looks better to me, especially that metal unibody design.
However, one of the design changes i can't approve of is the NFC placement. Placing it on the front is awkwardly funny.
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Man, I gotta be blind to love the design. It looks somewhat like MI3?

Don't get me wrong, I always loved the build quality of Sony. The metal unibody on xperia X proved that, i loved it but those are choice of material. However if speaking from design perspective, the overall design from speaker grill to the bezel are awful.

I own Xperia Z, Z2 and Z3. But since then, its hard to get impressed at Sony flagships. Z2 speaker grill and LED light still legend for me.

At this point Sony is better off packing their bag. Disappointed.. I was certain Sony going to produce something different after Xperia Z series ended. Sadly, its for the worst.
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QUOTE(ryanice8888 @ Jul 20 2016, 02:38 PM)
Man, I gotta be blind to love the design. It looks somewhat like MI3?

Don't get me wrong, I always loved the build quality of Sony. The metal unibody on xperia X proved that, i loved it but those are choice of material. However if speaking from design perspective, the overall design from speaker grill to the bezel are awful.

I own Xperia Z, Z2 and Z3. But since then, its hard to get impressed at Sony flagships. Z2 speaker grill and LED light still legend for me.

At this point Sony is better off packing their bag. Disappointed.. I was certain Sony going to produce something different after Xperia Z series ended. Sadly, its for the worst.
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Yes, the Z2 speaker grille + LED light is a design killer.
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The design is great. But the lower back part totally spoils it.
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jul 20 2016, 09:43 PM)
The design is great. But the lower back part totally spoils it.
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some rumours say that is exclusive to Japanese set design. not sure what's the logic though

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just did a search on xperia x performance for docomo and it does have the extra bar on the lower back as well

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jul 21 2016, 09:53 AM)
some rumours say that is exclusive to Japanese set design. not sure what's the logic though

edit:
just did a search on xperia x performance for docomo and it does have the extra bar on the lower back as well
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Might it be special antenna for their network?
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jul 21 2016, 09:53 AM)
some rumours say that is exclusive to Japanese set design. not sure what's the logic though

edit:
just did a search on xperia x performance for docomo and it does have the extra bar on the lower back as well

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Hmm yeah I wonder why. As long as international sets is not affected it should be great then. Thanks for the info.
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jul 21 2016, 05:10 PM)
Hmm yeah I wonder why. As long as international sets is not affected it should be great then. Thanks for the info.
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Might it be special antenna for their network?
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I have check the phones just now. I admit. The design is very nice. Unlike C4 and M4 which looks dated. There is a distinct improvement in their designs. Z5 is still good looking but nothing compared to X and XA. I think I might as well get XA for my dad.

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I changed my Z1 battery a few days ago. Looks like I have plenty of time to wait for IFA and for the next phones to be released around Oct/Nov.
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jul 22 2016, 03:33 PM)
I changed my Z1 battery a few days ago. Looks like I have plenty of time to wait for IFA and for the next phones to be released around Oct/Nov.
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Z1 damn strong! I always find excuse to change phone. But my z1 just won't fail me...
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Fortunately I did not visit the store with a swollen battery haha because everything else still runs great...
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jul 23 2016, 11:07 AM)
Z1 damn strong! I always find excuse to change phone. But my z1 just won't fail me...
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it's not failing me, even with a pretty worn battery for the whole 2 years ++
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jul 22 2016, 03:30 PM)
I have check the phones just now. I admit. The design is very nice. Unlike C4 and M4 which looks dated. There is a distinct improvement in their designs. Z5 is still good looking but nothing compared to X and XA. I think I might as well get XA for my dad.
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THe XA design really thumbsup.gif > would have gotten it ,if it's a flagship with top specs
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Jul 23 2016, 12:31 PM)
THe XA design really  thumbsup.gif > would have gotten it ,if it's a flagship with top specs
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jul 23 2016, 12:06 PM)
if your Z1 is damn strong, then my Z Ultra is the same as well.

it's not failing me, even with a pretty worn battery for the whole 2 years ++
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Just go and change the battery and you'll feel it is as good as new
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Haha. I will wait first. I'm waiting to see how the leaked model looks like.
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jul 23 2016, 07:36 PM)
But I'm beginning to doubt that it'll be a big as z ultra. Most probably it'll be 5.2 or 5.5
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I am fine with it as long it sized more than 5.5"
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/07/25/someo...y-xperia-f833x/

some F8331 leaks again.
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Just a little over a month left to hear about their latest handsets.
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Jul 27 2016, 08:51 AM)
Just a little over a month left to hear about their latest handsets.
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wonder how will sony name this new handset... xperia x premium? xperia x plus? or xperia x1?

but x1 and x2 were already been used before back then in the sony ericsson days.
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Jul 27 2016, 10:19 AM)
wonder how will sony name this new handset... xperia x premium?
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that is a tiny clue. smile.gif

from my understanding, it will pack the latest tech from Bravia TV as well, HDR screen.

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Anybody using XA ultra?
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Anybody using XA ultra?
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Dxomark rank Xperia Performance as top dog

http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia...ressive-results

Xperia X should be similar.

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QUOTE(squall_kay @ Jul 29 2016, 02:39 PM)
Dxomark rank Xperia  Performance as top dog

http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia...ressive-results

Xperia X should be similar.
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I only hope for one thing though - eliminate the oil painting artifacts

Dynamic range those are better than previous generation.
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is xperia xa ultra already out in market?
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it is. just released few weeks ago, and retailing at RM1699.
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Jz bought a XA for my wife yesterday~
Any idea where can i find flip case for it ?
Official case from Sony kinda pricey for me~ blush.gif
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QUOTE(neo0915 @ Aug 1 2016, 10:47 AM)
Jz bought a XA for my wife yesterday~
Any idea where can i find flip case for it ?
Official case from Sony kinda pricey for me~  blush.gif
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S.O.T around 5 hours with 4g,acceptable la...
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What is your usage? Did you using stamina/ultra stamina mode?
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it is. just released few weeks ago, and retailing at RM1699.
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Friend bought XA Ultra after knowing the Desire 830 costs 980 laugh.gif

The thin bezel is brows.gif
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Aug 10 2016, 04:17 PM)
Friend bought XA Ultra after knowing the Desire 830 costs 980  laugh.gif

The thin bezel is  brows.gif
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He/she will Selfie whole day long. laugh.gif
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He doesn't use camera much. He uses it for playing games on the big screen. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Aug 10 2016, 05:03 PM)
He doesn't use camera much. He uses it for playing games on the big screen. laugh.gif
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Still enjoyable at least. tongue.gif
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I currently using Xperia Z3, which I upgraded from Z1.
My 1st criteria of choosing a smartphone is the camera, because smartphone is my daily camera beside my other Sony camera like A7, A6000 and RX100iii

So now I wonder which should my next smartphone be? Xperia Z5 or Galaxy S7....
because so many review have gave the camera on Z5 very bad comment!!
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QUOTE(rockcacing @ Aug 10 2016, 05:09 PM)
I currently using Xperia Z3, which I upgraded from Z1.
My 1st criteria of choosing a smartphone is the camera, because smartphone is my daily camera beside my other Sony camera like A7, A6000 and RX100iii

So now I wonder which should my next smartphone be? Xperia Z5 or Galaxy S7....
because so many review have gave the camera on Z5 very bad comment!!
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Is it? Z5 camera shouldn't be an issue for experienced camera user. By using proper settings, you can keep the ISO low, to maintain the dynamic range and noise. biggrin.gif

In daylight, the detail level is as good as RX100 III. For night, you can switch to downsampled 8MP to maintain the pixel quality.

Here's daylight comparison.
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Handheld Night comparison (Z5C sample was shot with 8MP downsampled + Night Scene [Long exposure])
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QUOTE(rockcacing @ Aug 10 2016, 05:09 PM)
I currently using Xperia Z3, which I upgraded from Z1.
My 1st criteria of choosing a smartphone is the camera, because smartphone is my daily camera beside my other Sony camera like A7, A6000 and RX100iii

So now I wonder which should my next smartphone be? Xperia Z5 or Galaxy S7....
because so many review have gave the camera on Z5 very bad comment!!
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if camera, ofc s7. Still the best phone cam around
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Aug 10 2016, 05:19 PM)
Too big for his pocket  laugh.gif
Is it? Z5 camera shouldn't be an issue for experienced camera user. By using proper settings, you can keep the ISO low, to maintain the dynamic range and noise. biggrin.gif

In daylight, the detail level is as good as RX100 III. For night, you can switch to downsampled 8MP to maintain the pixel quality.
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The Z5 is a good phone camera only if correct settings are used but most smartphone users won't have the time tinkering the settings, so they won't go full manual all the time, unlike us. laugh.gif

But, I appreciate Sony's effort in manual scene choices. The results turn out to be much more pleasant than auto mode. Despite the aggressive noise reduction and sharpening algorithm, the colors at least does not off white balance and has better dynamic range. The link below to the sample photo taken with one of Sony's scene mode.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry81193566
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Aug 11 2016, 02:47 PM)
The Z5 is a good phone camera only if correct settings are used but most smartphone users won't have the time tinkering the settings, so they won't go full manual all the time, unlike us. laugh.gif

But, I appreciate Sony's effort in manual scene choices. The results turn out to be much more pleasant than auto mode. Despite the aggressive noise reduction and sharpening algorithm, the colors at least does not off white balance and has better dynamic range. The link below to the sample photo taken with one of Sony's scene mode.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry81193566
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Auto mode is good enough for daylight. Dark places need night scene / handheld twilight.
For the colour / contrast / brightness stuff, those can be post processed to fit one's taste.
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QUOTE(urmysunshine @ Aug 12 2016, 11:11 AM)
i'm looking into sony XA Ultra. do 16GB enough space enough?
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What's your usage? If normally into social and entertainment ones, it's sufficient.
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for gaming purpose
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It comes with memory card slot, so should have no issue with your media files all stored into memory card. sweat.gif
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It comes with memory card slot, so should have no issue with your media files all stored into memory card.  sweat.gif
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While I could get the XA...but for the same processor with a bigger screen for an additional 500 I would not even consider...
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I went to Sony Centre to try out yesterday, can really feel the slowness while browsing the photos taken (I currently using Xperia Z3)
Camera also slow in focus and taking photo for both rear and front camera, keep getting blurry photo, even i set to high ISO at 1600
however i do like the big screen, surprisingly not too big to hold in one hand (I used to owned Galaxy Note 2)
must give a big big like to the screen edge design, really felt so nice to hold!!

Because my primary criteria of a phone is on the camera and photo viewing, therefore I have to switch my consideration to either Xperia C5 Ultra or M5
After viewed so many review, seem like M5 stand out on its camera (both rear and front) and price
However C5 Ultra come second, camera is just a bit behind M5

Any commend from XA Ultra, C5 Ultra and M5 owners? TQ
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Xperia x comes with OIS?

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Aug 22 2016, 08:33 PM)
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Lol, I think that's a mistake.

I remember quite clearly that one of the Sony Engineers being interviewed mentioned that they still think that their SteadyShot implementation is much better than OIS currently.

I think the general perception is that it is true for Video, but for Photos, it is questionable.
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QUOTE(kiwlm @ Aug 23 2016, 11:01 AM)
Lol, I think that's a mistake.

I remember quite clearly that one of the Sony Engineers being interviewed mentioned that they still think that their SteadyShot implementation is much better than OIS currently.

I think the general perception is that it is true for Video, but for Photos, it is questionable.
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Totally agreed. Sony SteadyShot is the best especially in video shooting!
I dun mind with a little bit of cropping, but it does work very close to a steady cam!
The only thing that still holding me from switching out from Xperia phone (>_<)
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Xperia X now has a RM300 rebate promo. after rebate will be 2199. smile.gif
on top of that, you will have chance to win a PS4 or SW3.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Aug 23 2016, 11:17 AM)
Xperia X now has a RM300 rebate promo. after rebate will be 2199. smile.gif
on top of that, you will have chance to win a PS4 or SW3.
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2199 is really a good price! smile.gif
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Got myself the UCH-12 charger, apparently supports both QC 3.0 and PE+ quick charge for my XA. Haven't really done much testing with it, but apparently it can recharge my XA from 15% to 70% in about half an hour, so I should get full charge in an hour or so? Also readings from the Ampere app shows charging rate as much as 2300mA+- when from low battery, as opposed to max 1500mA+- on the stock UCH-20 charger, although it trickles down to pretty much the same as the battery fills up. That said I haven't really tried any 2.1amp chargers so.. maybe when I can I'll do comparisons with all of 'em, aeroplane mode and all.

Not much of a review but well.. I'm not that much of a reviewer. My XA can last me till the end of the day on normal usage anyway, and I prefer the idea of fast charging rather than a big battery. Thinking of getting another perhaps, so I don't have to lug it around from office - home etc.
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Xperia XZ and X Compact

http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/08/25/xperi...d-on-sony-site/

Estimated price, RM3299? hmm.gif laugh.gif
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Xperia XZ and X Compact

http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/08/25/xperi...d-on-sony-site/

Estimated price, RM3299? hmm.gif laugh.gif
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https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...ny-xperia-xz%2F

Another leak.

If the pricing and availability is good, looks like I found a promising successor to my aged Xperia Z - Xperia XZ.

More X, more powah flex.gif
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Aug 26 2016, 11:11 AM)
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...ny-xperia-xz%2F

Another leak.

If the pricing and availability is good, looks like I found a promising successor to my aged Xperia Z - Xperia XZ.

More X, more powah  flex.gif
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so, s820, 4gb ram, 5.2" screen, 23MP with dual tone flash and laser focus, USB type c. so far looks promising. really hoping to get a replacement for my z1 as well.

i'm just wondering how big is the battery capacity.
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Aug 26 2016, 02:05 PM)
so, s820, 4gb ram, 5.2" screen, 23MP with dual tone flash and laser focus, USB type c. so far looks promising. really hoping to get a replacement for my z1 as well.

i'm just wondering how big is the battery capacity.
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Can any1 report xa ultra screen on time pls
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Aug 26 2016, 11:11 AM)
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...ny-xperia-xz%2F

Another leak.

If the pricing and availability is good, looks like I found a promising successor to my aged Xperia Z - Xperia XZ.

More X, more powah  flex.gif
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I thought it's Xperia XR? hmm.gif
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Hey guys...need some help. Just bought Xperia XA today but I got a problem. I dont see the sim tray inside the phone. Is it really has no sim tray or mine was missing. I bought it online and came from a dealer. My previous Z2 has it.
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QUOTE(ali_setan3 @ Aug 30 2016, 09:25 PM)
Hey guys...need some help. Just  bought Xperia XA today but I got a problem. I dont see the sim tray inside the phone. Is it really has no sim tray or mine was missing. I bought it online and came from a dealer. My previous Z2 has it.
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request product return to retailer due to missing item.

side note : Sony Xperia XZ and X Compact design leaked.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/08/31/xperi...ss-photos-leak/
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side note : Sony Xperia XZ and X Compact design leaked.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/08/31/xperi...ss-photos-leak/
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QUOTE(ali_setan3 @ Aug 30 2016, 09:25 PM)
Hey guys...need some help. Just  bought Xperia XA today but I got a problem. I dont see the sim tray inside the phone. Is it really has no sim tray or mine was missing. I bought it online and came from a dealer. My previous Z2 has it.
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Should have sim tray kua, if no sim tray how you put your sim card in??
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Sep 1 2016, 09:24 AM)
request product return to retailer due to missing item.

side note : Sony Xperia XZ and X Compact design leaked.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/08/31/xperi...ss-photos-leak/
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When is the launching ( Malaysia time)? Any link for live broadcast? Very excited about this launch
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When is the launching ( Malaysia time)? Any link for live broadcast? Very excited about this launch
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Launching, I assume it will be around October/November.
And for the live stream, here you go.

https://community.sony.co.uk/t5/blog-news-f...16/ba-p/2215288
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 1 2016, 12:52 PM)
When is the launching ( Malaysia time)? Any link for live broadcast? Very excited about this launch
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Side note : am I the one that thinks that the latest XZ looks like a power bank after installed with the official style cover?
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First post updated with XZ Launch Info
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Kinda disappointed with the design actually...the display screen to body ratio is so small...and the body looks thick..sigh.. sad.gif

On a bright side, hope the camera really as good as what they advertised.

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QUOTE(pds_disi @ Sep 1 2016, 09:18 PM)
sony supporker here.
whichever design manager approved the sharp edge should be fired together with the designer.
u may say its chamfered but still freaking sharp compare to many other phone exist on market.

after suppork them so many year finally i can skip buying sony phone for a year thanks to those fucuking designer.
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I think the pricetag would be a turnoff assuming it will be priced similarly to X when it first launch
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QUOTE(i am number 2 @ Sep 1 2016, 09:21 PM)
Kinda disappointed with the design actually...the display screen to body ratio is so small...and the body looks thick..sigh.. sad.gif

On a bright side, hope the camera really as good as what they advertised.
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Can dream on. They produced great hardware on their cameras but always whistling.gif on their software part...
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But but... I'm sold to what they offered in the phone wub.gif

The forest blue is.... So elegant thumbsup.gif

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The best feature I appreciate the most - full manual controls. Now I can create photos at my own will.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 1 2016, 10:05 PM)
But but... I'm sold to what they offered in the phone wub.gif

The forest blue is.... So elegant  :thumbsup:
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But but... I'm sold to what they offered in the phone wub.gif

The forest blue is.... So elegant  :thumbsup:
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I'm sold too... Only left 2 concerns... Battery life and price. Hope it won't be a 3k phone...
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The best feature I appreciate the most - full manual controls. Now I can create photos at my own will.
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i dont think we can adjust aperture size of the camera right, can we?
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i dont think we can adjust aperture size of the camera right, can we?
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Yes. Aperture on phone is fixed, for compensating the sensor size. If manufacturers dump in variable aperture (which is impossible), we will see darker photos at lower aperture.
Not only Sony but my Note 7 also is not adjustable.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Sep 1 2016, 10:31 PM)
Yes. Aperture on phone is fixed, for compensating the sensor size. If manufacturers dump in variable aperture (which is impossible), we will see darker photos at lower aperture.
Not only Sony but my Note 7 also is not adjustable.
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Then it is still not full manual control.. Haha
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QUOTE(i am number 2 @ Sep 1 2016, 11:22 PM)
Then it is still not full manual control.. Haha
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side note, if Sony gives the ability to save RAW images, edit maniacs will love it.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Sep 1 2016, 01:21 PM)
Launching, I assume it will be around October/November.
And for the live stream, here you go.

https://community.sony.co.uk/t5/blog-news-f...16/ba-p/2215288
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I have feeling with this XZ this time, especially the Forest Blue! Oh No!!!

It is only 5.2"! I cannot have any feeling on this phone!
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I have feeling with this XZ this time, especially the Forest Blue! Oh No!!!

It is only 5.2"! I cannot have any feeling on this phone!
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But the price is kinda steep.. Given that there is nothing new compared to previous model, 599.99 pound sterling.. Let's see how they will price in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(i am number 2 @ Sep 2 2016, 07:31 AM)
But the price is kinda steep.. Given that there is nothing new compared to previous model,  599.99 pound sterling.. Let's see how they will price in Malaysia.
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I assume it will be priced at RM3099 after tax.
That's really.......a beautiful price. sweat.gif
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I assume it will be priced at RM3099 after tax.
That's really.......a beautiful price. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 2 2016, 02:32 AM)
I have feeling with this XZ this time, especially the Forest Blue! Oh No!!!

It is only 5.2"! I cannot have any feeling on this phone!
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The naming really confusing. also sony need to improve their efficiency, 1st sep announce then next month only launch. by the time they launch, everyone is talking about iPhone 7 d
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The naming really confusing. also sony need to improve their efficiency, 1st sep announce then next month only launch. by the time they launch, everyone is talking about iPhone 7 d
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1 month is consider short. most manufacturer also like that
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 2 2016, 10:26 AM)
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QUOTE(i am number 2 @ Sep 2 2016, 07:31 AM)
But the price is kinda steep.. Given that there is nothing new compared to previous model,  599.99 pound sterling.. Let's see how they will price in Malaysia.
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I guess around RM 2,999 to RM 3,099.

QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Sep 2 2016, 10:15 AM)
I assume it will be priced at RM3099 after tax.
That's really.......a beautiful price. sweat.gif
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If more than that will be too much asking already.

QUOTE(silentsunami @ Sep 2 2016, 10:36 AM)
The naming really confusing. also sony need to improve their efficiency, 1st sep announce then next month only launch. by the time they launch, everyone is talking about iPhone 7 d
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I assume it will be priced at RM3099 after tax.
That's really.......a beautiful price. sweat.gif
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Or they could make everyone happy and sells it for 2599... cool2.gif
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Xperia X worth buying? Or z5..

Current phone almost dying..
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QUOTE(monocle @ Sep 3 2016, 07:09 AM)
Xperia X worth buying? Or z5..

Current phone almost dying..
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Xperia X worth buying? Or z5..

Current phone almost dying..
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Z5's current pricing is more attractive. You get last year's flagship at almost same as the Xperia X price.

Or hang on for Xperia XZ
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 3 2016, 09:19 AM)
Z5's current pricing is more attractive. You get last year's flagship at almost same as the Xperia X price.

Or hang on for Xperia XZ
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Z5 is quite nice but the processors turns me off. But if XZ comes out and Z5 drops to 1500 like that I won't mind...
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Uh so with XZ, what happens to the X Performance..?
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Uh so with XZ, what happens to the X Performance..?
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How's the batt life expectation of this new XZ?
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Sep 3 2016, 01:55 PM)
How's the batt life expectation of this new XZ?
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So I will stay tune and see how well reviews go.
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Check out these video from "iPhoneArena"..
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Sep 3 2016, 04:09 PM)
I'm expecting Sony to market their 2 days battery life on it. smile.gif
So I will stay tune and see how well reviews go.
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extreme test on video stabilisation..
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Sep 3 2016, 04:23 PM)
Check out these video from "iPhoneArena"..
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Only if they sell if around the current X's price, imo.
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Guys, is xperia X a dualSim device?
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Guys, is xperia X a dualSim device?
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Thanks bro.. still considering this & other sd650/652 phones.
Would've been no brainer if it is ip68.

Use one bro?
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QUOTE(RedsInHell @ Oct 17 2016, 02:56 PM)
Thanks bro.. still considering this & other sd650/652 phones.
Would've been no brainer if it is ip68. 

Use one bro?
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Yeah, and quite happy with it, tried out XZ in shops, but dun really like the feel of that.

The Xperia X seems to be the last phone that they are marketing with 2 days battery life, so I think they have given up of that.

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My humble Xperia XA Review biggrin.gif

*Fair warning. Can be boring xD

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QUOTE(LightningChan @ Nov 7 2016, 07:52 PM)
My humble Xperia XA Review biggrin.gif

*Fair warning. Can be boring xD

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I was first intrigued and tempted by the XA Ultra but no, no, no and no. I still love my Z ultra even more despite the 8MP camera without even a 'puny' flash. laugh.gif
Other than that, the SoC also made me withdraw myself as it's well known for power hungry.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Nov 7 2016, 11:21 PM)
I was first intrigued and tempted by the XA Ultra but no, no, no and no. I still love my Z ultra even more despite the 8MP camera without even a 'puny' flash. laugh.gif
Other than that, the SoC also made me withdraw myself as it's well known for power hungry.
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XA Ultra is not the best phone I've used. That honor goes to the original Z(C6603). Still would've used it if it hadn't got problems. That being said, XA Ultra is a fun phone to use. Maybe its because its my first time using such a huge phone. Haha.

The battery though. Really sucks. Others are fine by me. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(LightningChan @ Nov 8 2016, 12:10 AM)
XA Ultra is not the best phone I've used. That honor goes to the original Z(C6603). Still would've used it if it hadn't got problems. That being said, XA Ultra is a fun phone to use. Maybe its because its my first time using such a huge phone. Haha.

The battery though. Really sucks. Others are fine by me. biggrin.gif

Slightly larger than an iPhone 7+  brows.gif
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You should try the XZ. Can say it's one of the best Xperia that Sony did and almost on par with competitors.
Imagine it's a ppap version of X and Z. laugh.gif

The only drawback is that 2900mah battery but luckily, able to last me a day with 20-30% left.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Nov 8 2016, 12:19 AM)
You should try the XZ. Can say it's one of the best Xperia that Sony did and almost on par with competitors.
Imagine it's a ppap version of X and Z. laugh.gif

The only drawback is that 2900mah battery but luckily, able to last me a day with 20-30% left.
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XZ expensive ooo.. and it's not very appealing to me. Haha.
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QUOTE(LightningChan @ Nov 8 2016, 01:04 PM)
XZ expensive ooo.. and it's not very appealing to me. Haha.
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Have you tried the UCH-12 quick charger to... somewhat offset the average battery life? Because to me it doesn't seem to be all that... quick, for a $130+- charger.
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QUOTE(BlitzAce @ Nov 8 2016, 01:29 PM)
Have you tried the UCH-12 quick charger to... somewhat offset the average battery life? Because to me it doesn't seem to be all that... quick, for a $130+- charger.
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Would QC 3.0 work on the XA/XA Ultra that has Helio P10?
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Nov 8 2016, 02:27 PM)
If you really into quick charge, get the AUKEY Quick Charger, the QC3.0 is charging at 30ma per minute.
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Would QC 3.0 work on the XA/XA Ultra that has Helio P10?
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Unfortunately, the XA Ultra uses a different SoC, which is Mediatek. A Mediatek phone must use Pump Express chargers, which is a quick charging technology by Mediatek. Using a Qualcomm quick charge will charge the phone at a normal rate.
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QUOTE(BlitzAce @ Nov 8 2016, 01:29 PM)
Have you tried the UCH-12 quick charger to... somewhat offset the average battery life? Because to me it doesn't seem to be all that... quick, for a $130+- charger.
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Um.. I don't know about the UCH-12 quick charger wo.. its RM139 for the charger adapter head only right?. Kinda pricey. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Nov 8 2016, 03:25 PM)
Unfortunately, the XA Ultra uses a different SoC, which is Mediatek. A Mediatek phone must use Pump Express chargers, which is a quick charging technology by Mediatek. Using a Qualcomm quick charge will charge the phone at a normal rate.
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Any Pump Express compatible charger alternatives other than the UCH-12?. UCH-12 seems quite pricey for a charger.
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QUOTE(LightningChan @ Nov 9 2016, 09:32 AM)
Any Pump Express compatible charger alternatives other than the UCH-12?. UCH-12 seems quite pricey for a charger.
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it also seems to be lacking in 3rd party support.
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Something like this, perhaps? charger
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Nov 9 2016, 09:59 AM)
haven't seen one other than UCH-12. sweat.gif
it also seems to be lacking in 3rd party support.
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QUOTE(BlitzAce @ Nov 9 2016, 10:11 AM)
Something like this, perhaps? charger
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Hm.. Seems okay wo..
Should be RM50-60 if sold here.

Gonna keep an eye out for more reputable brand like Belkin.. haha
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I don't think there's any of the big brands that makes PE chargers, been looking around for a while now, actually.
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QUOTE(BlitzAce @ Nov 9 2016, 01:35 PM)
I don't think there's any of the big brands that makes PE chargers, been looking around for a while now, actually.
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Aww.. That's just sad..

Oh btw, XA Ultra retail price just dropped RM200.. doh.gif
I just bought it a week ago..
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Sony doesn't use Qualcomm Quick Charge tech? Their fast charging is proprietary?
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QUOTE(LightningChan @ Nov 9 2016, 01:27 PM)
The UCH-12 is too expensive.. haha
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QUOTE(LightningChan @ Nov 9 2016, 01:46 PM)
Aww.. That's just sad..

Oh btw, XA Ultra retail price just dropped RM200..  doh.gif
I just bought it a week ago..
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QUOTE(powerangah @ Nov 9 2016, 03:21 PM)
Sony doesn't use Qualcomm Quick Charge tech? Their fast charging is proprietary?
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No. Because sony uses different chipset for their phones, each chipset has their own fast charging technology. If Qualcomm, use QC. If Mediatek, use Pump Express.

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Nov 9 2016, 03:34 PM)
If you become my girlfriend, i will get you one for free. laugh.gif
Jokes aside, yes, understandable for those whom bought it recently. Coz i faced this situation before. sweat.gif  doh.gif
Money went down to the drain.
Haha.. sweat.gif

But then again, RM1699 with 1 year extended warranty and an overly priced thin rubber casing vs RM1499 with nothing. I think my deal was better la.. tongue.gif

Gonna compile and post some test shots with the XA Ultra rear and front camera soon biggrin.gif
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Someone should bring in those PE chargers and sell em here nod.gif
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QUOTE(BlitzAce @ Nov 9 2016, 03:51 PM)
Someone should bring in those PE chargers and sell em here  nod.gif
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That is actually a good idea.. Many phones uses Mediatek SoCs nowadays.. HTC, Sony, Xiao Mi, Oppo are the main phones I see on the list. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Nov 9 2016, 03:34 PM)
If you become my girlfriend, i will get you one for free. laugh.gif
Jokes aside, yes, understandable for those whom bought it recently. Coz i faced this situation before. sweat.gif  doh.gif
Money went down to the drain.
No. Because sony uses different chipset for their phones, each chipset has their own fast charging technology. If Qualcomm, use QC. If Mediatek, use Pump Express.
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Samsung uses Exynos but still compatible with qc
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QUOTE(powerangah @ Nov 9 2016, 05:14 PM)
Samsung uses Exynos but still compatible with qc
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Because their Exynos chipset is based on Qualcomm's quick charging technology, so it's compatible vice versa.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Nov 9 2016, 05:24 PM)
Because their Exynos chipset is based on Qualcomm's quick charging technology, so it's compatible vice versa.
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As a photographer of sorts, I had to do a simple review on the XA Ultra's camera.

So for a few random shots smile.gif
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Macro shots (With NEX-3N shots to show what I am focusing on) brows.gif
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Overall, pretty disappointed with the camera. The resolution is there but it takes really near perfect condition to get a nice shot. Front camera however, is really nice.

Pros :
- Overall good color reproduction
- Fair speed at taking pictures
- Large screen so its easy to spot for details
- Good resolution
- Front camera flash and OIS helps alot
- Comfortable shutter button despite being thin

Cons :
- Poor autofocus speed
- Phase detection not fast enough in some cases
- Poor macro focusing(iPhone 5 does better)
- Rear camera no OIS. Pressing the shutter button fast may shake the photo
- Stock camera app settings and control are quite limited even on manual mode
- No custom white balance
- Auto mode sucks as auto white balance is not accurate most of the time indoors
- Single LED flash not powerful enough for further subjects in the dark

Thanks for reading notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(LightningChan @ Nov 9 2016, 07:05 PM)
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Oh well, i believe your PM inbox gonna flooded with people to ask for your number, and i might be the first. laugh.gif
Anyway, just joking. laugh.gif

Nice review BTW. No doubt a photographer's sight. I have a A6000 but mostly serves as my leisure camera. sweat.gif
And reading this review made me wanna write a camera review for my Xperia XZ.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Nov 9 2016, 07:29 PM)
Oh well, i believe your PM inbox gonna flooded with people to ask for your number, and i might be the first. laugh.gif
Anyway, just joking. laugh.gif

Nice review BTW. No doubt a photographer's sight. I have a A6000 but mostly serves as my leisure camera. sweat.gif
And reading this review made me wanna write a camera review for my Xperia XZ.
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A6000!!! My dream camera!

I'm curious though on XZ's triple sensor.
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QUOTE(LightningChan @ Nov 9 2016, 07:05 PM)
Pros :
- Overall good color reproduction
- Fair speed at taking pictures
- Large screen so its easy to spot for details
- Good resolution
- Front camera flash and OIS helps alot
- Comfortable shutter button despite being thin

Cons :
- Poor autofocus speed
- Phase detection not fast enough in some cases
- Poor macro focusing(iPhone 5 does better)
- Rear camera no OIS. Pressing the shutter button fast may shake the photo
- Stock camera app settings and control are quite limited even on manual mode
- No custom white balance
- Auto mode sucks as auto white balance is not accurate most of the time indoors
- Single LED flash not powerful enough for further subjects in the dark
I have the Xperia X, not sure whether the focusing distance is the same.

Last week I tried to use the rear camera to snap a high res photo of a printed 3/4R picture, it just won't focus when I get too near to the photo, was trying to get it as close as possible to get better resolution.

So what I did was to pull back, and then just zoom in, make sure the zoom is less than 2X. Since the X camera have 24 MP which is too much, I guess don't mind sacrificing a bit.

It is not really the same with macro focus, but guess it is a workaround.
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QUOTE(kiwlm @ Nov 10 2016, 10:21 AM)
I have the Xperia X, not sure whether the focusing distance is the same.

Last week I tried to use the rear camera to snap a high res photo of a printed 3/4R picture, it just won't focus when I get too near to the photo, was trying to get it as close as possible to get better resolution.

So what I did was to pull back, and then just zoom in, make sure the zoom is less than 2X. Since the X camera have 24 MP which is too much, I guess don't mind sacrificing a bit.

It is not really the same with macro focus, but guess it is a workaround.
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Yup. Basically if your focus distance is lesser than the minimum focusing distance the lens won't focus. Stepping away and zooming in to focus is one way to do it. You can also snap the picture at your widest angle and then crop it later. Quality should still be okay if you don't crop too much since its a 20mp+ camera. Safer than zooming because photos tend to be blurry from handshake.

If only there are manual focusing option. That way can maximize the use of the camera's focusing distance.

Still, very disapointed with the camera la.. haha

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QUOTE(LightningChan @ Nov 10 2016, 04:07 PM)
Yup. Basically if your focus distance is lesser than the minimum focusing distance the lens won't focus. Stepping away and zooming in to focus is one way to do it. You can also snap the picture at your widest angle and then crop it later. Quality should still be okay if you don't crop too much since its a 20mp+ camera. Safer than zooming because photos tend to be blurry from handshake.

If only there are manual focusing option. That way can maximize the use of the camera's focusing distance.

Still, very disapointed with the camera la.. haha
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This is why you should get the XZ, periodically. laugh.gif
Coz XZ features full manual control (finally, lol).
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Nov 10 2016, 05:22 PM)
This is why you should get the XZ, periodically. laugh.gif
Coz XZ features full manual control (finally,  lol).
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But it's so pricey and bezel so thick.. XD

I think there's 3rd party camera apps that allow manual focus as well.. Haha.
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QUOTE(LightningChan @ Nov 10 2016, 06:10 PM)
But it's so pricey and bezel so thick.. XD

I think there's 3rd party camera apps that allow manual focus as well.. Haha.
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XA Ultra bezels thicker leh... laugh.gif
Just to let you know only,

Camera FV if i remember correctly... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Nov 10 2016, 06:17 PM)
XA Ultra bezels thicker leh... laugh.gif
Just to let you know only,

Camera FV if i remember correctly... hmm.gif
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XA Ultra screen both side is edge to edge ma.. That's caught my attention. Haha..
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QUOTE(LightningChan @ Nov 10 2016, 04:07 PM)
Yup. Basically if your focus distance is lesser than the minimum focusing distance the lens won't focus. Stepping away and zooming in to focus is one way to do it. You can also snap the picture at your widest angle and then crop it later. Quality should still be okay if you don't crop too much since its a 20mp+ camera. Safer than zooming because photos tend to be blurry from handshake.

If only there are manual focusing option. That way can maximize the use of the camera's focusing distance.

Still, very disapointed with the camera la.. haha
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Well, in our phones, the zoom is a crop, so there's not much difference regarding handshake.

The difference is in the exposure and white balance, if you include too many things other than what you wanted to snap/crop, then the exposure won't be that correct.
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Upon further testing, XA Ultra's main camera isn't half bad. Some skills may be required to work with the "lazy" software. I find myself needing to lock the AF by half pressing the shutter button and move the phone forward and backward to focus on small stuff on a close up shot.

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Is XA battery as bad as what reviews claim? How many hours screen on time r u all getting?
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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Dec 4 2016, 05:05 PM)
Is XA battery as bad as what reviews claim? How many hours screen on time r u all getting?
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Somewhat okay to me, but I'm not an exactly a heavy user, and most of the time I'm just stuck in the office, though. Under normal usage I would usually be left with around 30%+-; mostly light browsing and occasional Youtube, brightness at 80% and I don't really use WiFi since my office's WiFi stinks!

And I've purchased a UCH-12 quick charge, although it's somewhat.. disappointing being a Quick Charger, pricey at that, too. I've heard others complain about the UCH-12 usage with the XA, too.
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post Jan 21 2017, 04:23 PM

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you guys keeping your phone and dont wanna upgrade?

I see less of Xperia Xs in garage sales and as well in mudah..i want to get those 2nd hand ones hehe
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QUOTE(chikuera @ Jan 21 2017, 04:23 PM)
you guys keeping your phone and dont wanna upgrade?

I see less of Xperia Xs in garage sales and as well in mudah..i want to get those 2nd hand ones hehe
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Good phone. Gotta wait a few years then i might consider selling it off. brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Jan 21 2017, 04:26 PM)
Good phone. Gotta wait a few years then i might consider selling it off.  brows.gif  brows.gif
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if you wanna sell it on a cheap, contact me tongue.gif

heard there will be a new sony phone in Feb..will be announced during MWC..

lets see then drool.gif
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QUOTE(chikuera @ Jan 21 2017, 04:30 PM)
if you wanna sell it on a cheap, contact me  tongue.gif

heard there will be a new sony phone in Feb..will be announced during MWC..

lets see then  drool.gif
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Few years later. rclxs0.gif rclxs0.gif rclxs0.gif

I dont use my phone for 6 months then get a new one. Haha.
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Jan 21 2017, 05:21 PM)
Few years later.  rclxs0.gif  rclxs0.gif  rclxs0.gif

I dont use my phone for 6 months then get a new one. Haha.
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same bro.. either it's broken or lost. my last sony phone was the ZL, used it for almost 2 years until 2015 when I lost it..missing sony cry.gif
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QUOTE(chikuera @ Jan 21 2017, 06:40 PM)
same bro.. either it's broken or lost. my last sony phone was the ZL, used it for almost 2 years until 2015 when I lost it..missing sony cry.gif
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I feel ya bro. My last sony phone broke on me 2 years ago. Sony Xperia Play. Miss the little bugger. cry.gif

Anyways, happy hunting on your phone bruh thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Jan 21 2017, 07:26 PM)
I feel ya bro. My last sony phone broke on me 2 years ago. Sony Xperia Play. Miss the little bugger.  cry.gif

Anyways, happy hunting on your phone bruh  thumbsup.gif
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thanks!

waiting for the new phone to launch and let the old ones get lower prices

probably getting X, Xcompact, Z5 or Z5 Compact rclxms.gif
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this thread alive? just bought xa ultra
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have screen burn on my xperia xa dual

can claim warranty or not? or any other way to fix it?
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Hi guys. Just bought the Xperia X F5122 from Sony July promotion.
So far the phone is good.

Just wanna ask,
i know recording video in 60fps will overheat.
but will 30fps also same? Yesterday i test recording n also transfering file in the same thing, after 11 mins overheat n stop recording.
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QUOTE(terryforever @ Jul 18 2017, 09:54 AM)
Hi guys. Just bought the Xperia X F5122 from Sony July promotion.
So far the phone is good.

Just wanna ask,
i know recording video in 60fps will overheat.
but will 30fps also same? Yesterday i test recording n also transfering file in the same thing, after 11 mins overheat n stop recording.
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Hi, do u experience any poor signal (4g, 3G, wifi) on Xperia x?
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I'm getting very weak signal on my XA after Nougat update. Related...?
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QUOTE(BlitzAce @ Jul 25 2017, 10:21 PM)
I'm getting very weak signal on my XA after Nougat update. Related...?
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I'm not so sure if it is bcos of nougat but till now after I update still my Xperia x very weak signals
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QUOTE(piscesguy1314 @ Jul 25 2017, 10:06 PM)
Hi, do u experience any poor signal (4g, 3G, wifi) on Xperia x?
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Why? 3G or 4G i didnt test.
But wifi is ok.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/dullhunk/28097769971

hi my xperia x got this issue, anybody know how to settle it.
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QUOTE(naminakata87 @ Aug 8 2017, 02:11 AM)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dullhunk/28097769971

hi my xperia x got this issue, anybody know how to settle it.
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2017/08/08/xperi...curity-patches/

New updates
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QUOTE(Hexlord @ Aug 9 2017, 05:56 PM)
Ya, just update.
Didnt notice any changes.
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RM1,300 for Sony Xperia X is it worth to buy?
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In terms of security update it is very good, just got the security updates for September.
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RM1,300 for Sony Xperia X is it worth to buy?
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You might want to compare it with the newer XA1, 5" but with Mediatek Helio P20 and abit lighter.
https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.aspx?catid=228
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QUOTE(imbibug @ Sep 12 2017, 01:12 PM)
You might want to compare it with the newer XA1, 5" but with Mediatek Helio P20 and abit lighter.
https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.aspx?catid=228
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I think the Xperia x is better haha, although abit outdated
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https://www.lowyat.net/2017/148316/sony-xpe...e-cut-malaysia/

This could be interesting... comparable to the Redmi Note series (even though slightly expensive)
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QUOTE(HMMaster @ Nov 21 2017, 09:21 AM)
https://www.lowyat.net/2017/148316/sony-xpe...e-cut-malaysia/

This could be interesting... comparable to the Redmi Note series (even though slightly expensive)
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does sony phone offer cloud base storage like icloud or imi?
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or can consider X Performance at RM1159. But not malaysia set.
https://www.lazada.com.my/sony-xperia-x-per...1332084&sc=EQI=
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of...osting_services

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does sony phone offer cloud base storage like icloud or imi?
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Got the Xperia X from 11 street for rm949-50 on Black friday and received it yesterday... going through the many updates 1 by 1 now... hopefully Oreo will come along soon smile.gif

Btw, 11street is now selling it at rm929 and u can grab the -50 voucher to purhcase this for less than 900 now...
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QUOTE(Redundant @ Nov 29 2017, 09:22 AM)
Got the Xperia X from 11 street for rm949-50 on Black friday and received it yesterday... going through the many updates 1 by 1 now... hopefully Oreo will come along soon smile.gif

Btw, 11street is now selling it at rm929 and u can grab the -50 voucher to purhcase this for less than 900 now...
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now lazada also 900, why this phone drop price until so much? something wrong ?
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QUOTE(Pain4UrsinZ @ Nov 29 2017, 07:09 PM)
now lazada also 900, why this phone drop price until so much? something wrong ?
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they want to clear stock maybe? sony half year 1 flagship ,so their phone drop price very fast lo .lazada selling 899 , compare to china brand still worth to buy even just 3GB ram..... the display and camera KO china phone kaw kaw mega_shok.gif
last month directD promo XZ just 1399 after voucher apply around 1.3K
Xzs 15XX 11street.... cool2.gif

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QUOTE(Pain4UrsinZ @ Nov 29 2017, 07:09 PM)
now lazada also 900, why this phone drop price until so much? something wrong ?
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Using it now... quality wise i feel it's better than chinese phone although losing in spec... the camera is good, but not great as lots of noise are present... I like the finger print scanner on the side, a very ideal place for a one touch unlock smile.gif

Screen is great too and I love the Sony theme and UI... very elegant yet very close to stock android.

Running smooth on 7.1.1 now with Oreo expected to come out very soon for sony phones... the X performance already received it this week!

Also managed to grab a RM29 ringke fusion case on clearance in lazada too! Another good point of getting an outdated phone is that the accessories are also cheaper! biggrin.gif

Btw i chose to buy from 11street because the one offered there at 929 comes with the charging dock while the 899 deal on lazada doesn't. But the dock is useless after I've installed the ringke fusion case on it... the charging port cut out is too small for the dock sad.gif

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QUOTE(Redundant @ Nov 30 2017, 08:40 AM)
Using it now... quality wise i feel it's better than chinese phone although losing in spec... the camera is good, but not great as lots of noise are present... I like the finger print scanner on the side, a very ideal place for a one touch unlock smile.gif

Screen is great too and I love the Sony theme and UI... very elegant yet very close to stock android.

Running smooth on 7.1.1 now with Oreo expected to come out very soon for sony phones... the X performance already received it this week!

Also managed to grab a RM29 ringke fusion case on clearance in lazada too! Another good point of getting an outdated phone is that the accessories are also cheaper! biggrin.gif

Btw i chose to buy from 11street because the one offered there at 929 comes with the charging dock while the 899 deal on lazada doesn't. But the dock is useless after I've installed the ringke fusion case on it... the charging port cut out is too small for the dock sad.gif
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the phone selling 2K+ last year....of course the quality surely better then china phone.... rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif SD650 + 23MP still kicking biggrin.gif worth the price 899 laugh.gif but lot of ppl still prefer china phone over Sony biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(dark_winter1314 @ Nov 30 2017, 10:12 AM)
the phone selling 2K+ last year....of course the quality surely better then china phone.... rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  SD650 + 23MP still kicking biggrin.gif  worth the price 899  laugh.gif  but lot of ppl still prefer china phone over Sony  biggrin.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V4-qLU-pyE
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Haha i'm so impressed that i'm already planning to purchase the XZ1 when the price comes down to this range lol laugh.gif

U are waiting for the Oreo update too bro? Hope it comes out within these few weeks smile.gif
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QUOTE(Redundant @ Nov 30 2017, 10:50 AM)
Haha i'm so impressed that i'm already planning to purchase the XZ1 when the price comes down to this range lol  laugh.gif

U are waiting for the Oreo update too bro? Hope it comes out within these few weeks smile.gif
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if budget tight & plan to buy HTC, LG , Sony better wait for a year the phone price drop d then just buy lol...super duper worth....old flagship with low price...haha.....the build quality is superb compared to china phone.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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My XA1 seem to have touch sensitivity issue on the left edge of the screen (Q damn hard to detect). Anyone got experience such issue?

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My XA1 seem to have touch sensitivity issue on the left edge of the screen (Q damn hard to detect). Anyone got experience such issue?

Send for repair'?
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Guys, want to ask your opinion, is the Xperia X Performance still a good buy right now since the price on Lazada is below 1.2k for the AP version? Haven't used a Sony phone since the days of my sony walkman Spiro phone. Thanks.
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QUOTE(sheva78 @ Nov 30 2017, 03:52 PM)
Guys, want to ask your opinion, is the Xperia X Performance still a good buy right now since the price on Lazada is below 1.2k for the AP version? Haven't used a Sony phone since the days of my sony walkman Spiro phone. Thanks.
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The problem is ...its a company lucky draw gift.

I got the warranty card, and the phone also registered - if check under "about phone" shown warranty until Aug 2018

Is that sufficient to proceed?
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any difference for xperia X that coming from thorus or midland ?
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any difference for xperia X that coming from thorus or midland ?
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thorus and midland is original Msia set... cool2.gif
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hi guys just bought xperia x thorus set through 11street (seller store is DirectD). How do i register my phone warranty ? where can i find the serial number ?
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Saw Special Promo Advertising at Direct D Publika Branch selling Xperia XA @ Rm699 and Xperia X @ RM999.
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hi guys just bought xperia x thorus set through 11street (seller store is DirectD). How do i register my phone warranty ? where can i find the serial number ?
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The serial number is located at the packaging box..

Alternatively you can check in 'Settings > About Phone > Status". Scroll down you can see your phone serial number. This is in Android 7.1.1.
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QUOTE(Pain4UrsinZ @ Dec 6 2017, 09:22 AM)
hi guys just bought xperia x thorus set through 11street (seller store is DirectD). How do i register my phone warranty ? where can i find the serial number ?
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hi, so how ya after few days using the phone? it's worth to buy? any heat up , lag issue?


QUOTE(tass @ Dec 9 2017, 06:45 PM)
Saw Special Promo Advertising at Direct D Publika Branch selling Xperia XA @ Rm699 and Xperia X @ RM999.
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affordable price biggrin.gif but need some review 1st
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affordable price  biggrin.gif  but need some review 1st
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Xperia X Reviews from GSM Arena
https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_x-review-1441.php


Xperia XA Reviews from GSM Arena
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QUOTE(tass @ Dec 9 2017, 06:48 PM)
The serial number is located at the packaging box..

Alternatively you can check in 'Settings > About Phone > Status".  Scroll down you can see your phone serial number. This is in Android 7.1.1.
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register in this page ?

https://mysony.sony.com.my/ExpressProductRegistration.aspx

serial number only allowed to key in 7 digits,mine more than that a lot
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QUOTE(Pain4UrsinZ @ Dec 10 2017, 08:52 AM)
register in this page ?

https://mysony.sony.com.my/ExpressProductRegistration.aspx

serial number only allowed to key in 7 digits,mine more than that a lot
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🤔 hmm, when I bought my Xperia XZ from Sony Center, inside the box there's a warranty card which the Sony staff filled in.

No need to register online...

Do you have warranty card inside the box?
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QUOTE(tass @ Dec 10 2017, 11:37 AM)
🤔 hmm, when I bought my Xperia XZ from Sony Center, inside the box there's a warranty card which the Sony staff filled in.

No need to register online...

Do you have warranty card inside the box?
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yes, i have the warranty card and also e-receipt . it is purchased through online directD.

so i just keep the warranty card and receipt ?
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yes, i have the warranty card and also e-receipt . it is purchased through online directD.

so i just keep the warranty card and receipt ?
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anyone bought lazada promo set Xperia X. the phone heat up easily or not? it's worth to buy compared to Moto G5s Plus / Mi A1.
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Loved my new Xperia X bought for rm889 at 11street. Performance and visual is good as my spare phone. Battery life not satisfactory though.
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Loved my new Xperia X bought for rm889 at 11street. Performance and visual is good as my spare phone. Battery life not satisfactory though.
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