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post Nov 13 2019, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Nov 13 2019, 12:53 PM)
Are u looking at cash upfront or collateralized trading account?
That's not too bad. CGS Cimb charges the same for cash upfront online trading.
CIMB charges RM8.48 minimum i tot..haha but percentage is the same if im not wrong
djhenry91 can clarify?

QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Nov 13 2019, 12:53 PM)
I noticed quite a number of brokers are charging 0.1% for cash upfront online trading account. The diffrenciator for cash upfront online will then be minimum brokerage.
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yeah most brokers charge 0.1%....since the poster was talking about RM12 for MBB,i guess he is referriing to minimum brokerage..
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post Nov 13 2019, 05:24 PM

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post Nov 13 2019, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Nov 13 2019, 03:00 PM)
CIMB charges RM8.48 minimum i tot..haha but percentage is the same if im not wrong
djhenry91 can clarify?
yeah most brokers charge 0.1%....since the poster was talking about RM12 for MBB,i guess he is referriing to minimum brokerage..
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min RM8 for cash upfront... not include those stamp duty,clearing fees and SST
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post Nov 14 2019, 08:35 PM

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V150 almost 4 years weehh. can see sentiment is not so good still
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post Nov 15 2019, 05:35 PM

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post Nov 21 2019, 01:07 AM

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Hey all, found out the rm 28 or 0.42% is charged by Maybank Investment Bank (with a remisier), hence the fee

To get rm 8 or 0.1%, open your cds through Maybank’s Equity Investment Centre instead
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post Nov 21 2019, 10:23 AM

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owh i din know there was a difference
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post Nov 21 2019, 10:30 AM

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Want to ask, what is HSI-xxx such as HSI-H8F, HSI-C7J counter etc all means? why their price like roller-coaster, today drop so much tmrw rise so high???
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post Nov 21 2019, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(Kjk014 @ Nov 21 2019, 10:30 AM)
Want to ask, what is HSI-xxx such as HSI-H8F, HSI-C7J counter etc all means? why their price like roller-coaster, today drop so much tmrw rise so high???
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Those are put warrant and call warrant.
-Hxx - Put warrant
- Cxx -call warrant

It is high risk or high leveraged "bet", if don't know how it works, then better don't touch.
Highly leveraged or highly geared, the more volatility of the price.

You need to know their conversion and exercise price and maturity date to deliver their valuation.


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post Nov 21 2019, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 21 2019, 02:49 PM)
Those are put warrant and call warrant.
-Hxx - Put warrant
- Cxx -call warrant

It is high risk or high leveraged "bet", if don't know how it works, then better don't touch.
Highly leveraged or highly geared, the more volatility of the price.

You need to know their conversion and exercise price and maturity date to deliver their valuation.
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i see.... thanks
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post Nov 21 2019, 03:31 PM

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do you hold EWM or other similar KLCI index funds?
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post Nov 21 2019, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 21 2019, 03:31 PM)
cubalagi

do you hold EWM or other similar KLCI index funds?
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Haha.. Of course not! Why want to pay the high management fee of EWM n forex to buy a bunch of Bursa blue chips.. 😆

Basically, I will use etfs to diversify into other markets and asset classes (bonds, gold etc) outside of Bursa and SGX stocks.

This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Nov 21 2019, 04:58 PM
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post Nov 21 2019, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Kjk014 @ Nov 21 2019, 10:30 AM)
Want to ask, what is HSI-xxx such as HSI-H8F, HSI-C7J counter etc all means? why their price like roller-coaster, today drop so much tmrw rise so high???
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HSI is the HK index, which is volatile.

HSI-xx are warrants on the index, which amplifies the % movement a few times.

HSI-C7K for example is a call warrant over HSI with a 12x leverage as at today. So if hsi go up 1% expect it to go up about 12%. But today HSI dropped 1.5%, so can see the warrant dropped nearly 18%. Note that leverage of a warrant can change daily n this is something to watch out.

Really not for the faint hearted.. N usually should only be used for day trading.
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post Nov 21 2019, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Nov 21 2019, 05:11 PM)
HSI is the HK index, which is volatile.

HSI-xx are warrants on the index, which amplifies the % movement a few times.

HSI-C7K for example is a call warrant over HSI with a 12x leverage as at today. So if hsi go up 1% expect it to go up about 12%. But today HSI dropped 1.5%, so can see the warrant dropped nearly 18%. Note that leverage of a warrant can change daily n this is something to watch out.

Really not for the faint hearted.. N usually should only be used for day trading.
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but if you buy and hold (cash upfront), it's ok, no?

like normal stock, buy and hold... but in this case, you buy and hold, it may drop today, but if it increases tomorrow by 1%, then you can sell and profit 12%?
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post Nov 21 2019, 06:29 PM

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those hsi structure warrant dont simply hold
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post Nov 21 2019, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 21 2019, 05:20 PM)
but if you buy and hold (cash upfront), it's ok, no?

like normal stock, buy and hold... but in this case, you buy and hold, it may drop today, but if it increases tomorrow by 1%, then you can sell and profit 12%?
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Never buy n hold these things.. Look up on leverage compounding effect and options time decay..

What I'm looking forward to on Bursa is the leverage/inverse etfs. These are still risky but less so than a warrant. Less leverage n more importantly, there are no time decay.

For eg. If it's a HSI 2x leverage etf, means it will "only" drop 3% today. These ones can hold for slightly longer.

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post Nov 21 2019, 08:25 PM

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Hi guys, i have some extra cash to grow but not sure where.Is stocks exchange good?or better to put in unit trust like Public Mutual and let it frow there?Looking around 7%-10% return p.a. Please advise.Thanks!
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post Nov 21 2019, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(spoon2272 @ Nov 21 2019, 08:25 PM)
Hi guys, i have some extra cash to grow but not sure where.Is stocks exchange good?or better to put in unit trust like Public Mutual and let it frow there?Looking around 7%-10% return p.a. Please advise.Thanks!
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You are lucky if you can get 7-10% dividen in unit trust.Of course stock is better.Capital gain + dividen
I recommend ARREIT (Amanah Raya Real Estate Trust).Dividens 4 times a year.Now below 80 sen.iPO price 1rgt.

This post has been edited by abdrahib: Nov 21 2019, 09:59 PM
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post Nov 22 2019, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(spoon2272 @ Nov 21 2019, 08:25 PM)
Hi guys, i have some extra cash to grow but not sure where.Is stocks exchange good?or better to put in unit trust like Public Mutual and let it frow there?Looking around 7%-10% return p.a. Please advise.Thanks!
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depends on your luck and know how....
i missed the train of AMD.
being an oldfag, i follow tech news often.....and when AMD landed both Xbox 1 and PS4 contract back then, i knew they were gonna rocket.....


however, back then was USD2 during the Bulldozer days.....now it's USD40 after ryzen....
ayam ragret i had no cash back then to play
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post Nov 22 2019, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(abdrahib @ Nov 21 2019, 09:46 PM)
You are lucky if you can get 7-10% dividen  in unit trust.Of course stock is better.Capital gain + dividen
I recommend ARREIT (Amanah Raya Real Estate Trust).Dividens 4 times a year.Now below 80 sen.iPO price 1rgt.
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Why would you recommend ARREIT instead of other M-REIT?

Is it due to the price drop below IPO, appears to be a value buy currently?

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