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STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V150
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Kjk014
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Nov 22 2019, 11:50 AM
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Getting Started

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Nov 21 2019, 05:11 PM) HSI is the HK index, which is volatile. HSI-xx are warrants on the index, which amplifies the % movement a few times. HSI-C7K for example is a call warrant over HSI with a 12x leverage as at today. So if hsi go up 1% expect it to go up about 12%. But today HSI dropped 1.5%, so can see the warrant dropped nearly 18%. Note that leverage of a warrant can change daily n this is something to watch out. Really not for the faint hearted.. N usually should only be used for day trading. What would happen if hold until it's expiry date??
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IMBeta305
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Nov 22 2019, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Nov 21 2019, 05:11 PM) HSI is the HK index, which is volatile. HSI-xx are warrants on the index, which amplifies the % movement a few times. HSI-C7K for example is a call warrant over HSI with a 12x leverage as at today. So if hsi go up 1% expect it to go up about 12%. But today HSI dropped 1.5%, so can see the warrant dropped nearly 18%. Note that leverage of a warrant can change daily n this is something to watch out. Really not for the faint hearted.. N usually should only be used for day trading. where can we actually check abt the "leverage" of each warrant.
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Cubalagi
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Nov 22 2019, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(Kjk014 @ Nov 22 2019, 11:50 AM) What would happen if hold until it's expiry date?? If out of money, u lose all your initial capital. Even if warrant is in the money, the cash settlement might not be enough to cover your capital so u can still lose some. This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Nov 22 2019, 06:01 PM
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Cubalagi
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Nov 22 2019, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(IMBeta305 @ Nov 22 2019, 02:57 PM) where can we actually check abt the "leverage" of each warrant. U can look at warrant websites like malaysiawarrants.com (Macquarie) or Naga warrants site (Kenanga).
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cherroy
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Nov 26 2019, 10:16 AM
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20k VIP Club
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QUOTE(Kjk014 @ Nov 22 2019, 11:50 AM) What would happen if hold until it's expiry date?? You can lose 100% if the warrant is out of money.
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moosset
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Nov 27 2019, 06:03 PM
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just wondering..... if an ETF has gone too expensive, will the fund manager do a ETF split so that the price becomes more affordable?
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Cubalagi
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Nov 27 2019, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 27 2019, 06:03 PM) just wondering..... if an ETF has gone too expensive, will the fund manager do a ETF split so that the price becomes more affordable? Yes, this can happen. Fundamentally makes no difference tho.
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moosset
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Nov 27 2019, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Nov 27 2019, 07:01 PM) Yes, this can happen. Fundamentally makes no difference tho. ah, good. I was just wondering if it behaves like a stock.
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moosset
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Nov 28 2019, 10:56 AM
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how do we check the % of foreign ownership in a stock? like as of today?
is it only through the annual report?
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Cubalagi
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Nov 28 2019, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 28 2019, 10:56 AM) how do we check the % of foreign ownership in a stock? like as of today? is it only through the annual report? I've no idea too. What I keep an eye out is the foreign fund flows into/out bursa (n it has been showing investors fleeing since PH yook power). https://www.theedgemarkets.com/flash-categories/fund-flow
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moosset
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Nov 28 2019, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Nov 28 2019, 09:04 PM) I've no idea too. What I keep an eye out is the foreign fund flows into/out bursa (n it has been showing investors fleeing since PH yook power). https://www.theedgemarkets.com/flash-categories/fund-flowso we can only see foreign funds in/out of bursa but not specific stocks? for example, I want to see what % of foreign ownership for MBB. If the % is high and recession hits, then I can assume foreign investors would sell so the price would drop further. If the % is low, then I can assume the price will not go any lower?... I think.
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Cubalagi
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Nov 28 2019, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 28 2019, 09:10 PM) so we can only see foreign funds in/out of bursa but not specific stocks? for example, I want to see what % of foreign ownership for MBB. If the % is high and recession hits, then I can assume foreign investors would sell so the price would drop further. If the % is low, then I can assume the price will not go any lower?... I think. I guess u may need to dig out the annual report which may be too late. But foreign investors hv been selling out of Malaysia since last year. I would expect their ownership to be at the low point now. Retail investor participation also low, brokers are suffering. Which to me then is a contrarian indicator...Buy.
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djhenry91
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Nov 28 2019, 11:20 PM
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i dont think u can see daily foreign holding % daily. tht data so limited and foreign fund flows into/out bursa not 100% is foreign fund figure ya
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nghoongen
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Nov 29 2019, 12:32 PM
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Hey guys, I know it's kind of weird to ask here but where can I look for contact of remisiers?
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~Curious~
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Nov 29 2019, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(nghoongen @ Nov 29 2019, 12:32 PM) Hey guys, I know it's kind of weird to ask here but where can I look for contact of remisiers? bursa mktplace iis a good start...i think they list d brokers there n u can register ur interest fr them to call u..downside is u can only register interest for 1 broker at a time..
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boonyu
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Nov 30 2019, 04:49 PM
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New Member
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Anyone know any good/decent stock pick service out there for beginner?
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Cubalagi
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Dec 3 2019, 12:32 AM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/02/in-2019-alm...ent-worked.htmlExcept Malaysia..maybe 2020. This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Dec 3 2019, 12:32 AM
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~Curious~
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Dec 3 2019, 03:20 PM
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in times of a maybe recesssion,is it better to invest in main market counters vs ACE market stocks?
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moosset
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Dec 3 2019, 06:14 PM
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we buy the Irish domiciled stocks / ETF to lower the tax on dividend, right?
if a stock / ETF doesn't declare any dividend, does it matter if you buy the US one or the EU one?
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Cubalagi
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Dec 4 2019, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Dec 3 2019, 03:20 PM) in times of a maybe recesssion,is it better to invest in main market counters vs ACE market stocks? Going into recession avoid stocks lar..but if must hold then it's cash cow consumer staples like Nestlé (people still drink nescafe n milo) n Dutchlady. Both were quite stable in 2009, maybe even sin consumer staple stocks like BAT,l or Carlsberg coz ppl still smoke n drink. At bottom of recession, then buy the other strong blue chips. Of course, this is easier said then done. This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Dec 4 2019, 12:39 AM
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