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Kjk014
post Nov 22 2019, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Nov 21 2019, 05:11 PM)
HSI is the HK index, which is volatile.

HSI-xx are warrants on the index, which amplifies the % movement a few times.

HSI-C7K for example is a call warrant over HSI with a 12x leverage as at today. So if hsi go up 1% expect it to go up about 12%. But today HSI dropped 1.5%, so can see the warrant dropped nearly 18%. Note that leverage of a warrant can change daily n this is something to watch out.

Really not for the faint hearted.. N usually should only be used for day trading.
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What would happen if hold until it's expiry date??
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post Nov 22 2019, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Nov 21 2019, 05:11 PM)
HSI is the HK index, which is volatile.

HSI-xx are warrants on the index, which amplifies the % movement a few times.

HSI-C7K for example is a call warrant over HSI with a 12x leverage as at today. So if hsi go up 1% expect it to go up about 12%. But today HSI dropped 1.5%, so can see the warrant dropped nearly 18%. Note that leverage of a warrant can change daily n this is something to watch out.

Really not for the faint hearted.. N usually should only be used for day trading.
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where can we actually check abt the "leverage" of each warrant.
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post Nov 22 2019, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(Kjk014 @ Nov 22 2019, 11:50 AM)
What would happen if hold until it's expiry date??
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If out of money, u lose all your initial capital. Even if warrant is in the money, the cash settlement might not be enough to cover your capital so u can still lose some.

This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Nov 22 2019, 06:01 PM
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post Nov 22 2019, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(IMBeta305 @ Nov 22 2019, 02:57 PM)
where can we actually check abt the "leverage" of each warrant.
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U can look at warrant websites like malaysiawarrants.com (Macquarie) or Naga warrants site (Kenanga).
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post Nov 26 2019, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(Kjk014 @ Nov 22 2019, 11:50 AM)
What would happen if hold until it's expiry date??
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You can lose 100% if the warrant is out of money.
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post Nov 27 2019, 06:03 PM

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just wondering..... if an ETF has gone too expensive, will the fund manager do a ETF split so that the price becomes more affordable?
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post Nov 27 2019, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 27 2019, 06:03 PM)
just wondering..... if an ETF has gone too expensive, will the fund manager do a ETF split so that the price becomes more affordable?
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Yes, this can happen. Fundamentally makes no difference tho.

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post Nov 27 2019, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Nov 27 2019, 07:01 PM)
Yes, this can happen. Fundamentally makes no difference tho.
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ah, good. I was just wondering if it behaves like a stock.
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post Nov 28 2019, 10:56 AM

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how do we check the % of foreign ownership in a stock? like as of today?

is it only through the annual report?
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post Nov 28 2019, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 28 2019, 10:56 AM)
how do we check the % of foreign ownership in a stock? like as of today?

is it only through the annual report?
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I've no idea too.

What I keep an eye out is the foreign fund flows into/out bursa (n it has been showing investors fleeing since PH yook power).

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/flash-categories/fund-flow

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post Nov 28 2019, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Nov 28 2019, 09:04 PM)
I've no idea too.

What I keep an eye out is the foreign fund flows into/out bursa (n it has been showing investors fleeing since PH yook power).

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/flash-categories/fund-flow
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so we can only see foreign funds in/out of bursa but not specific stocks?

for example, I want to see what % of foreign ownership for MBB. If the % is high and recession hits, then I can assume foreign investors would sell so the price would drop further. If the % is low, then I can assume the price will not go any lower?... I think.
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post Nov 28 2019, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 28 2019, 09:10 PM)
so we can only see foreign funds in/out of bursa but not specific stocks?

for example, I want to see what % of foreign ownership for MBB. If the % is high and recession hits, then I can assume foreign investors would sell so the price would drop further. If the % is low, then I can assume the price will not go any lower?... I think.
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I guess u may need to dig out the annual report which may be too late.

But foreign investors hv been selling out of Malaysia since last year. I would expect their ownership to be at the low point now.

Retail investor participation also low, brokers are suffering.

Which to me then is a contrarian indicator...Buy.
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post Nov 28 2019, 11:20 PM

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i dont think u can see daily foreign holding % daily.
tht data so limited
and foreign fund flows into/out bursa not 100% is foreign fund figure ya
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post Nov 29 2019, 12:32 PM

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Hey guys, I know it's kind of weird to ask here but where can I look for contact of remisiers?
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QUOTE(nghoongen @ Nov 29 2019, 12:32 PM)
Hey guys, I know it's kind of weird to ask here but where can I look for contact of remisiers?
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bursa mktplace iis a good start...i think they list d brokers there n u can register ur interest fr them to call u..downside is u can only register interest for 1 broker at a time..
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post Nov 30 2019, 04:49 PM

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Anyone know any good/decent stock pick service out there for beginner?
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post Dec 3 2019, 12:32 AM

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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/02/in-2019-alm...ent-worked.html

Except Malaysia..maybe 2020.

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post Dec 3 2019, 03:20 PM

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in times of a maybe recesssion,is it better to invest in main market counters vs ACE market stocks?
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post Dec 3 2019, 06:14 PM

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we buy the Irish domiciled stocks / ETF to lower the tax on dividend, right?

if a stock / ETF doesn't declare any dividend, does it matter if you buy the US one or the EU one?
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post Dec 4 2019, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Dec 3 2019, 03:20 PM)
in times of a maybe recesssion,is it better to invest in main market counters vs ACE market stocks?
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Going into recession avoid stocks lar..but if must hold then it's cash cow consumer staples like Nestlé (people still drink nescafe n milo) n Dutchlady. Both were quite stable in 2009, maybe even sin consumer staple stocks like BAT,l or Carlsberg coz ppl still smoke n drink. At bottom of recession, then buy the other strong blue chips.

Of course, this is easier said then done.

This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Dec 4 2019, 12:39 AM

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