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post May 25 2021, 04:00 PM

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I don't know if anyone else is using Cafelat Robot besides me.

Personal tip: preheat the piston

A preheated piston extracts faster.
You can grind a bit finer to compensate the time if you are extracting too fast.
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post May 25 2021, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ May 25 2021, 03:52 PM)
Where to buy?
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shopee got. got other brand also for the syrup, like da vinci. u can explore all of it. certain type of syrup, that brand much better. like caramel in Monin taste not that good compare to Torani. u can google first and read the consumer review on those brands.

heres the link: https://shopee.com.my/shop/173392578/search
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post May 25 2021, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ May 25 2021, 04:00 PM)
I don't know if anyone else is using Cafelat Robot besides me.

Personal tip: preheat the piston

A preheated piston extracts faster.
You can grind a bit finer to compensate the time if you are extracting too fast.
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one of my friend use the robot. it much easier and the work flow less trouble. recently i found out a good measurement for a single cup of latte with syrup. the coffee taste is there and the syrup flavour enhance better. before this im using 18g of coffee bean, the taste is stronger. but now i try with 15g coffee bean(30g espresso), 150ml milk, 15ml torani syrup. it taste so good. i like the salted caramel much more than before.
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post May 25 2021, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(raist86 @ May 24 2021, 12:52 PM)
i personally prefer the standalone v60 drip and decanter.. if anything breaks, i just need to replace that part.. plus putting a nice decanter on the table looks better for serving. Have been using the timemore glass v60 with the provided paper filter. so far have been adjusting brew time by manipulating the grind size. However, i find that if i grind too fine to slow down the brew (target brew is 300ml @ 3:30 min), i'll get lots of stuck grinds on the side of the filter when brewing.

Have to buy more filter papers soon and i'm seeing alot of Hario bleached paper on shopee.. noticed that there's two type of packing, one in plastic wrap, the other is in paper box format. Is there any difference in the two papers? someone i know mentioned that the box paper flows slower compared to the plastic packing filter.

My brewer is the 1-2 cup size.
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General consensus is that the boxed Hario v60 filters (40pcs) is the one to get.
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post May 25 2021, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(missmataleo @ May 25 2021, 04:34 PM)
one of my friend use the robot. it much easier and the work flow less trouble. recently i found out a good measurement for a single cup of latte with syrup. the coffee taste is there and the syrup flavour enhance better. before this im using 18g of coffee bean, the taste is stronger. but now i try with 15g coffee bean(30g espresso), 150ml milk, 15ml torani syrup. it taste so good. i like the salted caramel much more than before.
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15g of syrup shocking.gif , not overpowering the coffee? for me 5g+ already a caramel drink than coffee
my flair classic caramel latte recipe usually dark roasted, 15g dose = 27g out, 130-140g milk, 3g of syrup but most people prefer 5-7g
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post May 25 2021, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(Siege @ May 25 2021, 06:22 PM)
15g of syrup shocking.gif , not overpowering the coffee? for me 5g+ already a caramel drink than coffee
my flair classic caramel latte recipe usually dark roasted, 15g dose = 27g out, 130-140g milk, 3g of syrup but most people prefer 5-7g
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The coffee taste still thick. What brand of syrup u use? From what i know, different brand of syrup got differemt sweetness
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post May 25 2021, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(missmataleo @ May 25 2021, 04:34 PM)
one of my friend use the robot. it much easier and the work flow less trouble. recently i found out a good measurement for a single cup of latte with syrup. the coffee taste is there and the syrup flavour enhance better. before this im using 18g of coffee bean, the taste is stronger. but now i try with 15g coffee bean(30g espresso), 150ml milk, 15ml torani syrup. it taste so good. i like the salted caramel much more than before.
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i just ordered torani salted caramel based on your suggestion, hope it tastes good biggrin.gif
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post May 25 2021, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ May 25 2021, 11:45 PM)
i just ordered torani salted caramel based on your suggestion, hope it tastes good   biggrin.gif
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Hope u like it. I also tried coconut, classic hazelnut, and raspberry. Raspberry is quite unique. If u drink it cold, the taste feels weird abit bcos of the sourness. But if u drink it hot with frothing the milk, ur latte taste nice and fragrant. Cannot be too sweet, 10ml is the best for me. Coconut is okay, when bored i can have different flavour. For hazelnut, its good as usual.

This post has been edited by missmataleo: May 26 2021, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(missmataleo @ May 25 2021, 10:50 PM)
The coffee taste still thick. What brand of syrup u use? From what i know, different brand of syrup got differemt sweetness
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for caramel I'm using davinci
the fragrance is strong but not so sweet, compared to monin
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QUOTE(4lt4ir @ May 25 2021, 05:53 PM)
General consensus is that the boxed Hario v60 filters (40pcs) is the one to get.
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really there is a difference. V60 box vs 100s confused.gif

I thought the there is only old filter & new filter (with tab) which flows slower.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coffee/comments/8c...filters_vs_old/


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post May 27 2021, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(alvinfks78 @ May 27 2021, 09:18 AM)
really there is a difference.  V60 box vs 100s :confused:

I thought the there is only old filter & new filter (with tab) which flows slower.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coffee/comments/8c...filters_vs_old/
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Tabbed one is thinner material (cost cutting perhaps). Otherwise I don't feel any difference.
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post May 27 2021, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(Harddisk @ May 27 2021, 02:04 PM)
Tabbed one is thinner material (cost cutting perhaps). Otherwise I don't feel any difference.
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But law of physics dictates thinner materials usually mean faster flow but this is not the case.

It actually flows slower.
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QUOTE(alvinfks78 @ May 27 2021, 09:18 AM)
really there is a difference.  V60 box vs 100s confused.gif

I thought the there is only old filter & new filter (with tab) which flows slower.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coffee/comments/8c...filters_vs_old/
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That's the general wisdom. Untabbed, boxed, 40's is the best apparently.
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post May 29 2021, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(air @ May 3 2021, 04:54 PM)
A few questions on your "Workable routine"

1. How do you actually get "even grind size" if you purchase roasted beans online? Asking other shop to grind the beans for you? Are you sure they willing to help yo u to grind the beans other than their shop?
2. How many visits do you have to do to get the right grind size? Each bag of coffee beans are different.
3. How much time will you save for keep visiting the coffee shop to grind the beans for you VS grinding your own beans using espresso-capable grinder?

When we talk about grinders, we don't simply recommend any subpar grinders. People will do homework/asking around here before simply buy any grinders.
I would suggest you learn about espresso-capable handgrinders first before venture into electric-motor based.

When we talk about espresso-capable grinders, we talking about:

1. Consistency on grind size at Espresso fine level
2. Able to dial-in for different type of beans which a very fine control
3. minimizing retention as possible

If you do not want any grinders which wasting your kitchen space, and insist using on pre-ground coffee from the shop, go no further than Flair NEO.
Flair NEO is specially designed for anyone who does not even bother to learn about grinders and prefer to use only the pre-ground coffee.
Otherwise, the frustration of no grinder far outweigh the result of your espresso shot from a machine like gemilai 58mm.

Still waiting your extraction videos from Gemilai machine.
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Hi... here's how it went.

The first round with the gemilai where i kinda had acceptable result at 20 - 20.5g is with the pre-ground on the left.
It was acceptable, but it's a bit coarser than i'd like.
After finishing the batch, i got a new one from mister coffee, as I previously bought their 'Fine' for my aeropress. In comparison, mr coffee's Fine is like Sol Roastery's Extra Fine, so my hunch will be Mr Coffee's extra fine will be perfect. for the expresso machine
user posted image[/url]

From the picture, (sorry the quality is not too good) but it's finer than what i had.

Here's the video of the shot I pulled.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SzV5CwXuLI...iew?usp=sharing

I've gotten pretty good results, at 18-19g

It's a workable routine, if you wanna safe some time, or if your in a condo, and kitchen space is a premium.

For those with a good grinder setup, I'm interested to know whata's your results from mister coffee's extra fine too. It'll be great if you can get a pack and try it out too.

The only downside i feel is, the coffee is like a couple weeks 'old' lar upon arrival (I got coffee thats probably grinded and packed on mid of april in 1st week of may), but crema's still there.. and it tastes quite good la.

Thanks.
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post May 30 2021, 10:52 AM

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Hi all, is there any travel sized hand grinder that has the dial in capabilities similar to JX Pro for espresso?

And between the JX Pro and the ace48cs, which is better as an all rounder for pours and espresso?

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QUOTE(eltaria @ May 29 2021, 06:54 PM)
Hi... here's how it went.

The first round with the gemilai where i kinda had acceptable result at 20 - 20.5g is with the pre-ground on the left.
It was acceptable, but it's a bit coarser than i'd like.
After finishing the batch, i got a new one from mister coffee, as I previously bought their 'Fine' for my aeropress. In comparison, mr coffee's Fine is like Sol Roastery's Extra Fine, so my hunch will be Mr Coffee's extra fine will be perfect. for the expresso machine
user posted image[/url]

From the picture, (sorry the quality is not too good) but it's finer than what i had.

Here's the video of the shot I pulled.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SzV5CwXuLI...iew?usp=sharing

I've gotten pretty good results, at 18-19g

It's a workable routine, if you wanna safe some time, or if your in a condo, and kitchen space is a premium.

For those with a good grinder setup, I'm interested to know whata's your results from mister coffee's extra fine too. It'll be great if you can get a pack and try it out too.

The only downside i feel is, the coffee is like a couple weeks 'old' lar upon arrival (I got coffee thats probably grinded and packed on mid of april in 1st week of may), but crema's  still there.. and it tastes quite good la.

Thanks.
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is tat gemilai 3200c? how's the machine?
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ May 30 2021, 10:52 AM)
Hi all, is there any travel sized hand grinder that has the dial in capabilities similar to JX Pro for espresso?

And between the JX Pro and the ace48cs, which is better as an all rounder for pours and espresso?
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I do not have the JX-Pro but have an older Z-Pro by 1Zpresso as well, and an ACE48s (not CS). In terms of build finishing the 1Z easily wins hands down in all categories. They did not cut any corners. The ACE48 on the other hand has numerous minor/cosmetic rough edges but IMHO nothing that affects grind quality.

You mention two brew methods that have significant differences in grind fineness. As such a consideration for you may be frequent switching between these two settings. In that case IMHO the JX-Pro may be a better fit (although significantly more expensive) as the clicks at least has some numeric markings which will enable you to get back to your previous setting with greater consistency. The ACE48 only has clicks and between pourover and espresso you go more than two entire revolutions so you have to be very careful to count clicks.
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QUOTE(lowkl @ May 31 2021, 11:18 AM)
I do not have the JX-Pro but have an older Z-Pro by 1Zpresso as well, and an ACE48s (not CS). In terms of build finishing the 1Z easily wins hands down in all categories. They did not cut any corners. The ACE48 on the other hand has numerous minor/cosmetic rough edges but IMHO nothing that affects grind quality.

You mention two brew methods that have significant differences in grind fineness. As such a consideration for you may be frequent switching between these two settings. In that case IMHO the JX-Pro may be a better fit (although significantly more expensive) as the clicks at least has some numeric markings which will enable you to get back to your previous setting with greater consistency. The ACE48 only has clicks and between pourover and espresso you go more than two entire revolutions so you have to be very careful to count clicks.
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Thanks for your insight!
I think i'll stick with 1zpresso, and after considering I most likely will go for Q2 for the portability and perhaps invest in a JX-pro when I've moved onto espressos in future.

Anyone here have tried and compared the 1zpresso Q2 with Timemore Slim Plus?
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QUOTE(eltaria @ May 29 2021, 05:54 PM)
Hi... here's how it went.

The first round with the gemilai where i kinda had acceptable result at 20 - 20.5g is with the pre-ground on the left.
It was acceptable, but it's a bit coarser than i'd like.
After finishing the batch, i got a new one from mister coffee, as I previously bought their 'Fine' for my aeropress. In comparison, mr coffee's Fine is like Sol Roastery's Extra Fine, so my hunch will be Mr Coffee's extra fine will be perfect. for the expresso machine
user posted image[/url]

From the picture, (sorry the quality is not too good) but it's finer than what i had.

Here's the video of the shot I pulled.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SzV5CwXuLI...iew?usp=sharing

I've gotten pretty good results, at 18-19g

It's a workable routine, if you wanna safe some time, or if your in a condo, and kitchen space is a premium.

For those with a good grinder setup, I'm interested to know whata's your results from mister coffee's extra fine too. It'll be great if you can get a pack and try it out too.

The only downside i feel is, the coffee is like a couple weeks 'old' lar upon arrival (I got coffee thats probably grinded and packed on mid of april in 1st week of may), but crema's  still there.. and it tastes quite good la.

Thanks.
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1. Erm not sure the good result you meant, is how good, since the portafilter you used is double-spout type instead of bottomless. If possible do the same steps and using the same grind size, this time with bottomless portafilter.
2. It is weird to me that you never go for at least espresso-capable handgrinder, since you already got a semi-auto which using 58mm standards. (with dual boilers if I not mistaken), and call it workable routine?
3. Just to let you know, after I tried my nearest coffee roaster's freshly roasted espresso beans, I could never go back to Sol/Mister Coffee, unless I down-grade my machine to Flair NEO.
4. Freshly-roasted whole beans beats Ground coffee anyday.
5. if you insist of using pre-packed ground coffee, I suggest you downgrade your machine as your current will be giving you more chores/hassle to dial in.

Just to share my experience on MisterCoffee whole beans for Flair espresso maker:

1. Delonghi KG89 before modding: failed + a mess
2. Delonghi KG89 after modding: spraying jets and dripping channeling, 30% of the time lucky get jet-free extraction
3. Kinu M47 classic: Ultimate grinder which adjust the dial for every beans I encountered so far, be it pourover or espresso.
4. 1zpresso JE-plus: Your most affordable budget handgrinder which done a very good job on espresso dial-ins.
5. After tasted other better roasted, fresher beans, I find MisterCoffee beans is only good for basic espresso dial-in practice.

Electrical version of espresso capable grinder => Eureka Mignon Specialita at least I suggest, to save you a lot of trouble for different type of beans.

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QUOTE(air @ May 31 2021, 01:31 PM)
1. Erm not sure the good result you meant, is how good, since the portafilter you used is double-spout type instead of bottomless. If possible do the same steps and using the same grind size, this time with bottomless portafilter.
2. It is weird to me that you never go for at least espresso-capable handgrinder, since you already got a semi-auto which using 58mm standards. (with dual boilers if I not mistaken), and call it workable routine?
3. Just to let you know, after I tried my nearest coffee roaster's freshly roasted espresso beans, I could never go back to Sol/Mister Coffee, unless I down-grade my machine to Flair NEO.
4. Freshly-roasted whole beans beats Ground coffee anyday.
5. if you insist of using pre-packed ground coffee, I suggest you downgrade your machine as your current will be giving you more chores/hassle to dial in.

Just to share my experience on MisterCoffee whole beans for Flair espresso maker:

1. Delonghi KG89 before modding: failed + a mess
2. Delonghi KG89 after modding: spraying jets and dripping channeling, 30% of the time lucky get jet-free extraction
3. Kinu M47 classic: Ultimate grinder which adjust the dial for every beans I encountered so far, be it pourover or espresso.
4. 1zpresso JE-plus: Your most affordable budget handgrinder which done a very good job on espresso dial-ins.
5. After tasted other better roasted, fresher beans, I find MisterCoffee beans is only good for basic espresso dial-in practice.

Electrical version of espresso capable grinder => Eureka Mignon Specialita at least I suggest, to save you a lot of trouble for different type of beans.
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are the MisterCoffee beans freshly roasted?
Roast upon order?

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