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 Battle of the +/- rm7k TVs, + Discussion on Sharp UE630X

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post Jan 12 2016, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(bad2928 @ Jan 12 2016, 12:25 PM)
FYI sharp will be no longer in tv industry after this the company has sold to hisence
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Pls get your facts right. Sharp sold its tv plant in mexico and rights to use sharp branding for tvs in the US to Hisense. They are still operating in the rest of the world.
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post Jan 12 2016, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Jan 11 2016, 06:55 PM)
I usually trust the reviewers who know what they are talking about compared to salesmen who are trying to sell you something. They also always give you some additional information to look out for when we demo a tv. But of course when buying a tv the most important thing is for it to look good to your own eyes.

The Toshiba seems to be a risky proposition since there seems to be many quality issues overseas, so I will avoid that. Sharp seems to be a reliable brand and your comments on repairs is a valid one and should not be overlooked.

I haven't tested my own files yet, I will go and do that. I will be looking at the Sharp UE630X, Panasonic CX700K and Samsung JU6600. Hopefully something clicks.
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Good luck, hope you hear from your feedback after you've chosen. I need to inform you an observation also. Each outlet there are salesmen representing their own brands ie. Philips, Sony, Sharp, Toshiba etc, but they are not wearing their company uniform. They wear their the shop's uniform but being stationed there to help promote their TVs and other items.

So beware if you might be actually talking to TV representative instead of the shop's salesman. Of course, they will recommend their own brand compared to the rest. This is a very sneaky tactic and also not noticeable.


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post Jan 12 2016, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Jan 12 2016, 01:43 PM)
Good luck, hope you hear from your feedback after you've chosen. I need to inform you an observation also. Each outlet there are salesmen representing their own brands ie. Philips, Sony, Sharp, Toshiba etc, but they are not wearing their company uniform. They wear their the shop's uniform but being stationed there to help promote their TVs and other items.

So beware if you might be actually talking to TV representative instead of the shop's salesman. Of course, they will recommend their own brand compared to the rest. This is a very sneaky tactic and also not noticeable.
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Believe your eyes. And helps to bring your own materials that you are already familiar with on what to look out for.
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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Jan 12 2016, 01:43 PM)
Good luck, hope you hear from your feedback after you've chosen. I need to inform you an observation also. Each outlet there are salesmen representing their own brands ie. Philips, Sony, Sharp, Toshiba etc, but they are not wearing their company uniform. They wear their the shop's uniform but being stationed there to help promote their TVs and other items.

So beware if you might be actually talking to TV representative instead of the shop's salesman. Of course, they will recommend their own brand compared to the rest. This is a very sneaky tactic and also not noticeable.
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Thanks. I have always had my suspicion about this but since they are wearing the shop uniform I thought it's maybe just that they get higher commission for certain brands. But now that you mentioned it, based on the additional information that they have about certain brands, it makes sense that they are actually salesman for those brands.


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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Jan 12 2016, 01:11 PM)
Pls get your facts right. Sharp sold its tv plant in mexico and rights to use sharp branding for tvs in the US to Hisense. They are still operating in the rest of the world.
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post Jan 13 2016, 08:55 AM

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Please view this video coverage of CES2016 by HomeTheaterGeek. D first interview is with Hisense rep. They will market Hisense and Sharp competitively in the Continental US. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDQZ1H1l8Aw

Sharp will be present in the rest of the world.

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post Jan 13 2016, 05:19 PM

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I believe you were also looking at sony x8500, are you still looking or have you bought something already.

I like the sony very much but the cheapest I found for 65" is rm9,500 which is way above my budget. Sony controls the price and there are not many retailers selling their tvs. Have to give up on it already.


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Yes not worth buying close to rm10k, within 1-2 years OLED should be that price
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post Jan 13 2016, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Jan 13 2016, 06:46 PM)
Yes not worth buying close to rm10k, within  1-2 years OLED should be that price
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Hmmm, for the 65" 4K Oled, I will be willing to get into debt with the credit card company if I can get it for RM10k biggrin.gif
For LCD panels, not really worth it.

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Jan 13 2016, 05:19 PM)
I believe you were also looking at sony x8500, are you still looking or have you bought something already.

I like the sony very much but the cheapest I found for 65" is rm9,500 which is way above my budget. Sony controls the price and there are not many retailers selling their tvs. Have to give up on it already.
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still eyeing for display,not bought anything yet..
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Looking forward for Danny review on his UE630X, I was eyeing for that as well but somehow the 65" seems to have better black compare to 58". I am not sure if it uses different panel. The price gap between 58 and 65 is ~3k.
For FHD, the 60LE90x Quattron is better in term of color and for ASTRO viewing, currently <5k.

When compare among Sharp 65UE630X Sony 65X8500 Toshiba 65L9450 Panasonic 65AX800 and 60CX700, Sharp is the best to my eyes, Sony next followed by Panasonic and last goes to Toshiba.

Happy shopping for those look for new TV....

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post Jan 15 2016, 01:26 PM

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Still waiting for the TV to arrive.. HLK order from Sharp then Sharp send to HLK then only to my place .. ETA this coming Wednesday, longer than I expected. Hope it will perform well!
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QUOTE(bond @ Jan 14 2016, 11:15 PM)
Looking forward for Danny review on his UE630X, I was eyeing for that as well but somehow the 65" seems to have better black compare to 58". I am not sure if it uses different panel. The price gap between 58 and 65 is ~3k.
For FHD, the 60LE90x Quattron is better in term of color and for ASTRO viewing, currently <5k.

When compare among Sharp 65UE630X Sony 65X8500 Toshiba 65L9450 Panasonic 65AX800 and 60CX700, Sharp is the best to my eyes, Sony next followed by Panasonic and last goes to Toshiba.

Happy shopping for those look for new TV....
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To me the Samsung SUHDs look the best for LCD. Saw a JS7200 the other day and it looks as good as the JS8000 just beside it to my untrained eyes (both were playing the same demo video). The Sonys comes a close second.
Panasonic looked very good the last time I saw it but recently saw again and there seemed to be a lot of judder on all their 4K models. I think this is probably due to the source or the splitter coz the same demo looked different a week ago.

I am not too impressed with the Sharp to be honest. I do feel that the picture is more natural and easy on the eyes compared to the rest but it doesn't have the WOW factor. Also, I don't like the boomerang stand. I think I am being petty, but I find it difficult to put this issue aside coz I will not be wall-mounting the tv.
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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Jan 15 2016, 01:26 PM)
Still waiting for the TV to arrive.. HLK order from Sharp then Sharp send to HLK then only to my place .. ETA this coming Wednesday, longer than I expected. Hope it will perform well!
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We are all waiting for your review biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Jan 15 2016, 04:02 PM)
To me the Samsung SUHDs look the best for LCD. Saw a JS7200 the other day and it looks as good as the JS8000 just beside it to my untrained eyes (both were playing the same demo video). The Sonys comes a close second.
Panasonic looked very good the last time I saw it but recently saw again and there seemed to be a lot of judder on all their 4K models. I think this is probably due to the source or the splitter coz the same demo looked different a week ago.

I am not too impressed with the Sharp to be honest. I do feel that the picture is more natural and easy on the eyes compared to the rest but it doesn't have the WOW factor. Also, I don't like the boomerang stand. I think I am being petty, but I find it difficult to put this issue aside coz I will not be wall-mounting the tv.
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That is the main strength of the Korean players, poppy colours with high contrast, very eye-catching in storefront but once you get it back home, it looks oddly unnatural. Sony for this round their androidTV range is good, however somehow the colour is a bit too dull compared to the others.

As for Sharp's androidTV range, they have nice colours and contrast, and I especially like the streaming playback via Youtube and Netflix, virtually noiseless with 720p and above sources. PQ is very subjective, like they say, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Go and have a look and get the one within your budget and preference, you can go wrong with that! smile.gif
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QUOTE(MaKiMo @ Jan 15 2016, 04:33 PM)
That is the main strength of the Korean players, poppy colours with high contrast, very eye-catching in storefront but once you get it back home, it looks oddly unnatural. Sony for this round their androidTV range is good, however somehow the colour is a bit too dull compared to the others.

As for Sharp's androidTV range, they have nice colours and contrast, and I especially like the streaming playback via Youtube and Netflix, virtually noiseless with 720p and above sources. PQ is very subjective, like they say, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Go and have a look and get the one within your budget and preference, you can go wrong with that! smile.gif
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agreed with you,sharp has more natural color than others especially top model..
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Dear all,
My Samsung TV just spoilt.

Looking for a replacement and was thinking to get the Sony Android TV.
Considering the 55 inch X8000C and the Sharp 58 inch UE630X.

Any comments on this 2 and which would be value for money.
This in advance.
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post Jan 15 2016, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Jan 15 2016, 04:02 PM)
To me the Samsung SUHDs look the best for LCD. Saw a JS7200 the other day and it looks as good as the JS8000 just beside it to my untrained eyes (both were playing the same demo video). The Sonys comes a close second.
Panasonic looked very good the last time I saw it but recently saw again and there seemed to be a lot of judder on all their 4K models. I think this is probably due to the source or the splitter coz the same demo looked different a week ago.

I am not too impressed with the Sharp to be honest. I do feel that the picture is more natural and easy on the eyes compared to the rest but it doesn't have the WOW factor. Also, I don't like the boomerang stand. I think I am being petty, but I find it difficult to put this issue aside coz I will not be wall-mounting the tv.
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Never trust demo videos, as they are specially designed for the TV and do not represent actual footage you watch. Better bring your own files and play the same file over a few tvs you have chosen. Then the results will be very different.

I like the Samsung JS 8000/9000 series but the price is too close to Oled so I didn't consider them.

If not mistaken close to rm7k for 55" and rm15-20k for 65", while 55" 7000 series have very poor contrast due to IPS panel - see http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/js7000.

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QUOTE(bond @ Jan 14 2016, 11:15 PM)
Looking forward for Danny review on his UE630X, I was eyeing for that as well but somehow the 65" seems to have better black compare to 58". I am not sure if it uses different panel. The price gap between 58 and 65 is ~3k.
For FHD, the 60LE90x Quattron is better in term of color and for ASTRO viewing, currently <5k.

When compare among Sharp 65UE630X Sony 65X8500 Toshiba 65L9450 Panasonic 65AX800 and 60CX700, Sharp is the best to my eyes, Sony next followed by Panasonic and last goes to Toshiba.

Happy shopping for those look for new TV....
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The LE90x can't produce blacks. Looked grey to me.
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Ya... may be lose out a bit on black but skin tone is good especially watching astro. Pros and cons here and there... smile.gif

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