Yup EC is mid 2014 model. There is an EG in LG's brochure but none in shops.

Best price I got was RM6k for the OLED but no more stock already and that also no warranty so a bit risky. Those from retail shop the best I got was rm7.3k from USJ Taipan.

For me also PQ is a priority. Those smart etc it is better to get an Android box which is faster and more flexible. That's why I never put smart features as my priority. PQ should always be the priority that can't be improved upon with any Android box.

Are you able to get 4k 60hz to pay smoothly on Netflix? Minimum 30Mbps I presume?

Thanks for the reply. I think harvey norman ipc is also selling around that price. If can get it below 6k might pull the trigger. Otherwise may go for the toshiba l9450 or wait for the sony x8500 to go down in price.

No chance to try netflix 4k coz i don't have a 4k tv yet. And setup is a bit complicated so can't test at the shop also. But should not be a problem with 30mbps unifi. Netflix recommends 25mbps i believe but the stream is highly compressed so shouldn't be a problem.

Hey Danny, been looking at TVs and learned quite a lot from your research. Let's exchange some notes.

Between your choices based on your assessment, I would pick option 3, cause I do not need 4k (mainly 720p and 1080p content for ME). Reflective screen is not a major issue because I watch with dim to no lighting -- so this depends on YOUR environment.

That being said, option 1 also looks like a great option due to the price. If visually, 1 & 3 no major difference, I'd pick 1.

Built in "smart" features or android in a TV does not appeal to me, reason being, if the TV is replaced the following year and the manufacturer stops "updating" the Android, it will be "obsolete". I'd rather save the money and buy a non-Smart TV, and buy an external Android box like Himedia for ~RM3xx.

On the whole list, I like option 4 the most, because it has 4K and good black levels. Is the L9450 the L9400 in the USA? If yes, then its a full array with local dimming? I think that's the best technology for conventional TVs, below OLEDs. With the 4K, you won't be having upgraditis down the road as more 4k content become available. But the L9400 has been plagued by quality issues, so you'd probably need to get a good unit. (buy the display set if the hours not that long? lol)

Go for 4k , some brand have 4k upscale. 4k not many content but last u for few years , unless u plan change TV within 2 years...

Now there is the new Ultra HD Premium sticker which denotes that the TV has HDR capabilities - can support Dolby Vision & HDR10 (announced at CES 2016).

According to many online TV reviewers, they believe that HDR is a much bigger game changer for TVs compared to 4K.

Now in a dilemma whether to wait for 2016 HDR capable models or get 2014/2015 models on the cheap.

I don't think it matters 50" and below, depending on your viewing distance. Typical ~9 feet, won't see the benefits for 4K for majority on a 50" screen.

But that Toshiba 50L9450 is a steal ~RM3.3k, FALD with 4k. Quite a bargain.

On even higher res.. you'd need a bigger screen or sit nearer.

This post has been edited by Jason: Jan 7 2016, 03:48 PM

HDR is not about resolution. It doesn't matter how big your screen is or how far you sit. It is about about showing on the tv what the director intended when making the movie (which is currently not possible due to the limitations of tv technology).

I have read many reviews online, and none of the profesional reviewers were excited about 4K or curved screens. But they are very excited about HDR.

Personally, I cannot imagine what it will look like, but I hope the difference is as impactful as SD vs HD.

This post has been edited by jdgobio: Jan 7 2016, 05:00 PM

OK I bit the bullet and chose a different TV from my initial list. Decided to go for the Sharp UE630e 4k series but a smaller one at 58". It also has very good black levels and was the flagship for 2015 Sharp lineup in Malaysia. Also has the latest Android TV though not my priority. Price was RM5080.

65 would be better but price is close to RM9k and I reckon will wait for oled prices to drop before splurging again, then this can be demoted to a good bedroom TV.

Will post my thoughts on this TV when it arrives next week. It was a toss between this or the 65in Philips 1080p model which was cheaper by RM600+.

This post has been edited by DannyOP: Jan 9 2016, 04:14 PM

Congrats on your purchase! What was the deciding factor compared to your earlier choices and also what made you decide to go with a smaller size?

I'm also having a similar dilemma as you previously. After seeing the oled 65 inch again today at harvey norman, I think I oled is the only way to go ... But the price is crazy!
Everything else is just a major compromise. Logic tells me to wait till prices come down. But heart is telling me to just grab something now.

TV so cheap now, sigh my Samsung 55" costs me 13k 5 yrs ago

Well some of the demos I did at Harvey Norman 1 Utama with HD material compared the 630x with the LG 65" Oled and this comes the closest. It just lose out on the black levels slightly but in terms of colour it was slightly more vibrant. I'm just comparing out of the box performance.

They didn't have the Philips model at Harvey so it was difficult to decide. I know 65" has so much more real estate and Philips works well with slightly low quality videos like Astro, but 65in if I were to move closer to the TV the pixels will be more noticeable and less forgiving to less than perfect sources. Also I was thinking as an entertainment unit it would be easier for the wife to use due to the build in Android Tv which we can use 4k sources like YouTube and Netflix out of the box, and expandable storage also helps.

The Toshiba was also close but I notice artifacts even with HD material so I put that slightly behind, but at rm6k+ it is the most affordable 65" 4k tv with good black levels.

Oh well u can't have them all and beggars can't be choosers, I also put into consideration I hardly have time to watch TV due to family life so some thoughts to the benefit of them made the Sharp an overall best choice. It only lose out on the size but compared to the current 40" Sony bravia 5yr+ model it replaces it will be a huge difference.

Btw my distance if compare the sofa closest to the TV is 8-9 feet and the furthest is 14-15 feet.

This post has been edited by DannyOP: Jan 10 2016, 05:59 AM

Thanks for the explanation on the deciding factor. I saw the UE630X at Harvery Norman and was quite impressed with it as well. To me it seemed to have more natural colours compared to the other brands. However, I was not very keen on getting a Sharp due to the difficulty in finding any reviews online. Also due to the very different model names, I have no idea what the US/Europe model name for UE630X is. So research is not possible. Sharp's website also is very basic and has very little information on their TVs. I have no idea whether the panels they use is VA or IPS.

However, I see that Sharp is available in almost all the electrical shops compared to other brands and it is possible to get a good discount on it compared to models like Sony & Samsung. Where did you get yours, USJ 1?

I would probably go down the same route as you. I will downsize to 55-60 inch and just get something that is good enough to replace my old 40" CCFL LCD and get an OLED 5 years later.

Take the reviews with a pinch of salt, I find the best way is to download some samples of 720p, 1080p and 4k. Go to Harvey Norman, ask them test all the TVs in your shortlist. And let u play with the settings.

I bought from HLK USJ 10/1A. Sharp doesn't have much reviews so you need to do self review.

Yes at RM5080 it's already a good discount. Retail was RM7k+ and other places like Harvey can only offer RM5990.

The advantage of getting a well stocked brand is ease of repairs should the time come vs limited stock or run out stock where you have less chances of getting parts.

Have a look at Toshiba l9450 also if you can accept the artifacts it is also quite decent. It should be similar to 9300 series where you can find reviews online but 9300 doesn't have good reviews .

This post has been edited by DannyOP: Jan 11 2016, 12:45 PM

Agree with you @ Sharp

LC60LE650M looks acceptable on paper for a basic TV, for its asking price -- read someone got it for ~RM2.7k on offer.

LC55LE460X is RM200 shy of the UA55J5500, but not sufficient info available. Really makes one wonder if the Sharp TVs are any good.

thats why dont spend so much on tv. dropping like mad. should always stick to 3-4k range and keep upgrading.

sharp has been going thru a lot of changes, not making much profit, like many japanese electronic/electrical cos. due to strong yen which has been appr against even the usd becos of china's rmb continuous devaluation.

they tend to spend more money on the technology r&d, incl the 8k tv just launched.

samsung and lg spend a lot of money on advertising and pr.

sony, panasonic, philips... in the middle.



i have bought 4 sharps in the last 7 years.

none has failed.

newest one is the lc50ue630x, a 4k uhdtv - very satisfied with it.

sharp has a good loyal customer base.

I usually trust the reviewers who know what they are talking about compared to salesmen who are trying to sell you something. They also always give you some additional information to look out for when we demo a tv. But of course when buying a tv the most important thing is for it to look good to your own eyes.

The Toshiba seems to be a risky proposition since there seems to be many quality issues overseas, so I will avoid that. Sharp seems to be a reliable brand and your comments on repairs is a valid one and should not be overlooked.

I haven't tested my own files yet, I will go and do that. I will be looking at the Sharp UE630X, Panasonic CX700K and Samsung JU6600. Hopefully something clicks.

FYI sharp will be no longer in tv industry after this the company has sold to hisence