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Cyberjaya V5, Why U buy Cyberjaya?
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icemanfx
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Oct 21 2016, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Oct 21 2016, 08:08 AM) how to define oversupply? are you comparing supply and demand within cbj? or within klang valley? with mrt2 and hsr (or may be lrt4) mobility is beyond imagination in cbj. this is purely own opinion unless quoted by reputable research company like HCSR. they have sophisticated software to do the supply/demand modelling and have huge data base to justify. One could read number of transaction vs supply/under construction at Napic and estimate number of unsold units at completion. If the numbers is projected, expect % of unsold units at cbj to be above kv average. This post has been edited by icemanfx: Oct 21 2016, 03:18 PM
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mroys@lyn
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Oct 21 2016, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 21 2016, 03:03 PM) One could read number of transaction vs supply/under construction at Napic and estimate number of unsold units at completion. If the numbers is projected, expect unsold units at cbj to be above kv average. for other area this may be true. in cbj, landowner/master-developer cyberview has some conditions for the developers.
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icemanfx
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Oct 21 2016, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Oct 21 2016, 03:19 PM) for other area this may be true. in cbj, landowner/master-developer cyberview has some conditions for the developers. What conditions? guaranteed sold out? guaranteed income for the landowner/master developer?
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Zres
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Oct 21 2016, 05:42 PM
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MCD renovation/construction at prima 3 counted as 1 tower ? This post has been edited by Zres: Oct 21 2016, 05:45 PM
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geolee76
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Oct 21 2016, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(Zres @ Oct 21 2016, 05:42 PM) MCD renovation/construction at prima 3 counted as 1 tower ?  err anything Higher than one floor is tower I believe hahaha I think he meant that
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CK15
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Oct 21 2016, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 21 2016, 03:03 PM) One could read number of transaction vs supply/under construction at Napic and estimate number of unsold units at completion. If the numbers is projected, expect % of unsold units at cbj to be above kv average. Wah! You spent more times than all formers to research CBJ, but claimed as hater... why ar?
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JamesPond
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Oct 21 2016, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(lamode @ Oct 21 2016, 02:02 PM) more landed coming up in cbj next year!  i wonder why are you so desperate?
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JamesPond
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Oct 21 2016, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(Soros007 @ Oct 21 2016, 01:22 PM) Landed because it's value for money! why not land and self built? it is even more value added.
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kenlaw72
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Oct 22 2016, 07:59 AM
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cbj need 10 years or more to fully mature. so holding power is key factor. Newbie expected fast return. nowaday no more big gain after vp. since we like the enviroment at cbj and wait for property appreciation. My first landed property also need 10years to double the value.
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noblebaby
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Oct 22 2016, 08:06 AM
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noblebaby
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Oct 22 2016, 08:06 AM
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BEANCOUNTER
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Oct 22 2016, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(kenlaw72 @ Oct 22 2016, 07:59 AM) cbj need 10 years or more to fully mature. so holding power is key factor. Newbie expected fast return. nowaday no more big gain after vp. since we like the enviroment at cbj and wait for property appreciation. My first landed property also need 10years to double the value. If yr 1st property double uts value prior to 2009 i think u had strike gold. If your 1st property double the value only after 2009....i think its just normal. I have seen property triple its value after 2009, no joke. In fact 2 of my landed biught before 2009 also double and triple their values...but too bad..both sold on or before 2009. Therefore ny subsale buyers actuallt made more money than me...but its also not all good news for them...bcos their replacenent value also gone up.....really nobody gains.
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JamesPond
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Oct 22 2016, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 22 2016, 10:13 AM) If yr 1st property double uts value prior to 2009 i think u had strike gold. If your 1st property double the value only after 2009....i think its just normal. I have seen property triple its value after 2009, no joke. In fact 2 of my landed biught before 2009 also double and triple their values...but too bad..both sold on or before 2009. Therefore ny subsale buyers actuallt made more money than me...but its also not all good news for them...bcos their replacenent value also gone up.....really nobody gains. willing sell willing buy. what is your point?
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BEANCOUNTER
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Oct 22 2016, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(JamesPond @ Oct 22 2016, 11:03 AM) willing sell willing buy. what is your point? if you cant see my point, meaning its not important to you. move on....
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icemanfx
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Oct 22 2016, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(kenlaw72 @ Oct 22 2016, 07:59 AM) cbj need 10 years or more to fully mature. so holding power is key factor. Newbie expected fast return. nowaday no more big gain after vp. since we like the enviroment at cbj and wait for property appreciation. My first landed property also need 10years to double the value. Value doubled in 10 years is about 7% p.a compounded, consistent with bank loan interest during that period. Kv property drastic price rise in 2011 to 2014 was due to flood of easy credit, a fallout of u.s qe. How many years it will take cbj to mature will depend on a number of factors e.g employment availability in cbj, etc.
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mroys@lyn
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Oct 22 2016, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 21 2016, 04:07 PM) What conditions? guaranteed sold out? guaranteed income for the landowner/master developer? find out yourself
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icemanfx
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Oct 22 2016, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Oct 21 2016, 03:19 PM) for other area this may be true. in cbj, landowner/master-developer cyberview has some conditions for the developers. QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Oct 22 2016, 01:19 PM) find out yourself  Means you have no idea.
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kenlaw72
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Oct 22 2016, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 22 2016, 12:53 PM) Value doubled in 10 years is about 7% p.a compounded, consistent with bank loan interest during that period. Kv property drastic price rise in 2011 to 2014 was due to flood of easy credit, a fallout of u.s qe. How many years it will take cbj to mature will depend on a number of factors e.g employment availability in cbj, etc. you didnt include the rental charge every months for this 10 years.
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SKY 1809
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Oct 22 2016, 03:12 PM
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Wow, interesting to know non CJ people goes to the extent of counting Towers to come out with conclusion that CJ is overdeveloped or what not .
Though the method is quite raw , unscientific and incomplete, we must appreciate his sincere effort of doing so.
Though it is good to conduct such survey ( his way ), doing half way and starts to jump into a conclusion is kinda bias and could be intended for a purpose at times , more so incomplete.
From another forum , the expert did say the influx/new migration to Greater KL is huge per year. And recently World Bank says Malaysians are saturated at suburb areas at about 70% presently and going towards 90%. Future Infra are expansions also important factors.
I personally come across neighbors who bought the properties and come only to stay maybe 2 months once or so, though renting out is not a problem here.
As a I say before it is the choice of the people, their choices to buy CJ home as a second home or they could work else where and they could just buy up a CJ home coz they like them.
Afterall most people know CJ is a failed SV long ago , and yet they still want to buy a property here for their own reasons, and not misled by someone here .
Do not under estimate other people intelligence by simply call them Herd behavior.
However if u are an investor or speculator , then it is your job to do yr home work such as counting Towers , traffic lights and what not , in short you must be an expert in investing . That is rule number one. Know what u are doing.
This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 22 2016, 04:24 PM
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CK15
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Oct 22 2016, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(kenlaw72 @ Oct 22 2016, 07:59 AM) cbj need 10 years or more to fully mature. so holding power is key factor. Newbie expected fast return. nowaday no more big gain after vp. since we like the enviroment at cbj and wait for property appreciation. My first landed property also need 10years to double the value. 10 years to fully mature is too optimistic, which not likely to happen. Follow TN 2050 maybe. This post has been edited by CK15: Oct 22 2016, 03:30 PM
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