310 using bluetooth to sync with ur phone. later data can be uploaded to strava either manually or automaticly.

but siriyesly, please go for 530 if u want navigation. the 330 screen are so small, later u will not satisfied with it.i also wannabuy the 330 before, but after comparison handson, i took the 310 and ditch the idea of navigation..hahah

90% work in progress

If you have 'kaki' in Singapore, try checking out Togoparts for used unit in Singapore. I have seen before Garmin Edge 500 (old model lah ) selling for SGD80 only. But you have to check the market place from time to time. If you see one, can contact your 'kaki' to get hold of it as soon as possible. If you want a unit with map, I suggest try getting Garmin Edge 705 from eBay. It's the cheapest unit with map. I used that once before I changed to Edge 800.

Garmin products is expensive now because of the currency exchange. The Edge 800 was sold for about 800 bucks (head unit only) last time, and then Edge 810 at 1K but now the Edge 820 is selling for almost 1.8k already. Most road bikers use Edge 510/Edge 520 as many don't use map navigation. Even that nowadays is selling for 1.6K with the cadence/speed sensor and HRM. As I mentioned I found an older model Edge 510, brand new, from a LBS and I offered 600 bucks and he gave me for 650 bucks (whole set) . "Takde duit makan pon I sapu lerrr " After selling the cadence/speed sensor and HRM, total cost is RM350 And I sold off the Bryton 20+ for 200 bucks , the Edge 510 is just a RM150 upgrade.

Sometimes when we go LBS , the older the better at times, we must poke around and see. Here near Simpang, I found a set of Avid SD7 V-brakes with levers (made in year 2000) and also 'Made in USA' and I got it for 80 bucks, the whole set! And the same shop now has a few units SRAM 24 speed hub gear (3 speed internal x 8 speed conventional RD). No need multiple chainrings. Also I saw a few Morgaw Trian saddles selling very cheap, trying to dispose.

navigation is not my main concern zam. more concern on qualities, reliability, data accuracy and customer support. lagipun, 330/530 punya navi pun breadcrump jer..no big deal for me
what held me up from buying the 310/100 is the usb charging port issues. read lots of reviews that many experienced this somehow later. some didn't. so it's almost a hit and miss situation. either that was a design flaw on the hardware, or bryton has qc issue. glad to hear you are happy with your unit. .

good advice, but unfortunately i dont have any kaki in singapore. so..

yeah, i would be more than happy if i could get my hand on 520 bundled set, and be done with it, but the price (1.6k) is something that i cant swallow/justify. yes, i need those heart rate and cadence data. heart rate and cadence really does help your pedalling efficiency. right now, on my cycling, i can only guess, based on feeling jer. need to know that sweetspot.

I think the later Brytons has changed their USB charging port design. So, I think the newer range is different already and should be OK now.

The old version It uses two little fragile plastic prongs with hook to hold the contact to the unit. After sometime, the plastic tends to get hard and not so elastic anymore, that's when the problem starts.



The newer version I think they resorted to paying royalties and started using the more proven USB connections.



This post has been edited by etigge: Aug 1 2017, 11:02 AM

old version use those pin connectors

310/100 already changed to micro usb, but lots of reported cases where that micro usb just pop out after using for some period of time.

latest 330/530 havent heard this usb issue yet, but seems the distance data is not accurate, compared to other gps devices of different brands. this is based on reviews on the net.

You can convert a normal odometer into a cadence meter. By attaching the magnet on the crank, and set your circumference to 16666.66m.

Interesting! But I would also like to save the data, something that a cyclo comp is unable to do.

I have not heard of this usb issue. Our group bulk buys a few times. None reported this. I have my own 310 too. No issue yet. You prolly only charge maybe once a week? or slightly more if you hardcore

glad to hear that. my comments were based on user reviews (amazon,fb,forums). seems like a common problem for those models (loose charging ports).

i c&p few of the many comments on amazon on 310

Complete product failure after 10 uses. After making a six-hour charge with original USB cord the unit will only stay on for 1 second! As a brand new product, Bryton has much to learn about quality control and design engineering. After I wrote to Bryton Support they notified me that the internal connector from the USB port to the battery is failing on many units.
Please see additional Amazon review for identical product failure: "kimR on April 28, 2016".
From Bryton "the USB connector were weaken and could be peeled off from the unit which caused the charge would not hold."

"USB port broke loose after 4 months of use. It's now useless as it can't upload data or even charge. This looks to be a common problem for this new product. Bryton customer service is unreachable and/or unresponsive via email and there's no telephone number."

"after 15 uses, the usb connector inside the Bryton came loose.... did not read on computer.... chinsey parts"

"This computer was really great when I first received. It had a great battery life as noted, but by the second time I had to charge it the USB port had come loose like so many other people have said in their review. I wish I had looked closer to them before purchasing."


in my view, the qc in those models are probably non existent. same like buy proton. if you get the good one, then u'r lucky. so, it's quite risky buy.

Don't know why.... but we had 3 bulk buys 10 each since last year? Most recent was 3 months ago? No one reported faulty usb. Who plug to computer nowadays... BT to phone and walla! straight to strava, No fiddling... bulk buy can be had for under 300 i think.

i charge after every ride due to habit mostly. But i've used it for a week without charging. Granted i don't ride hours on end every single day. But i try 3-4 rides a week.

This post has been edited by ashx: Aug 1 2017, 12:07 PM

Its a good fix until you buy your Ant+ GPS headset.

Like you, I am waiting for the right Ant+ capable GPS headset to show up. Until then, the hacked cyclo computer will do for now.

Advance in electronics gadget are in terms of leap and bounce. I won't buy obsolete model even if they were 20% of their original price. Someone somewhere will offer a better product sooner or later. Just like smartphone. Itd like No one in their right mind will buy and use a brand new iPhone 2 today…

This post has been edited by KenC: Aug 1 2017, 12:27 PM

actually, for gps units, what matters most is the support from the respective companies on the software and firmware updates. i've been using a standalone garmin car gps for about 6 years now. the firmware and maps are always updated, and the device is still going strong eventhough by today standard, that model is already ancient.

This post has been edited by fatani: Aug 1 2017, 01:01 PM

Smartphone apps are good enough for my level of activities. The only down side is battery life. BUT since I carry a PowerBank to power up my bike lamp, while solving battery life without any extra effort.
I now use an old Android phone offline as navigation(Google map) and strava.

This post has been edited by KenC: Aug 1 2017, 02:19 PM

i would use smartphone too if the phone gps receiver is as good as the standalone bike gps. the problem is, my phone (honor 8) always seems to lost the gps signals somewhere in certain areas, which effects all those data on strava etc. my friends who rides along in the same route using garmin or bryton doesnt encounter this problems.

My Lenovo seems to have powerful GPS receiver. Especially after I dedicated it as my bike computer.
I.e. clean it up and only run strava and Google map. And nothing else.
Before that, strava hangs frequently.

I always hear iPhone user complaining loosing GPS signal.

This post has been edited by KenC: Aug 1 2017, 02:41 PM

im using speed/cadence sensor on my bryton. so for me, most of the time data is most accurate.

i use gps as 1st priority and sensor as 2nd. after ride i do notice data is mos accurate compare only using gps..

Both Garmin and Bryton are dedicated cycling GPS. The Garmin Edge series (except the 200) is more expensive because it also incorporates the barometric calculation of elevation or altimeter. If you notice hiking GPS like the eTrex10 or eTrex 20 the elevation calculation requires at least 3 satellite fixes to formulate the algorithms for the elevation of your location. Even that , the calculation is not accurate compared to those having the barometric sensors. Only the more expensive hiking GPS have this function and all Edge series have this. The elevation measurement is on my regular data window apart from speed, distance and time. Off course others includes the cadence and HRM readings.

Sometimes, when we cycle, the strokes seems hard and the terrain looks flat and we can confirm it is actually a slope by looking at the elevation readings. Initially when we read , it was eg. 70m asl and then after a few strokes it becomes 71m and later 72m , then we know it is a slope or vice versa when we feel the strokes are easier. I didn't read the literature of the new Brytons on whether they are using barometric sensors or not.

When my wife was using the Bryton 20+ , I compared once when the map of the activity is downloaded and I was also surprised that the Bryton is more accurate if not better than the Garmin Edge. I am sure the latest Bryton won't disappoint users after all, their initial models are all now replaced with better models and they have actually learn from the feed backs of the users.

Also the size of the unit is also a factor and they need to minimize to suitable size for cyclists. For this, a whole new circuit design is needed and the market for cycling GPS is not as big as their regular GPSes. Hence the high price which is made even worse with our depreciating Ringgit. Then again if you look carefully, it is also the need of the users. If they need it, it is worthy. A Sigma or a Cateye cylo computer with Ant+ functions for HRM and cadence is not cheap either and I rather go to the specialist even though I pay slightly more. So, either Garmins or Brytons or even the Magellan Cyclos (not available locally though) are the better choice for dedicated cycling computers. It is a matter of time before Bryton will come out with a unit with map. Smart phones on the other hand will surely be without the altimeter function, except maybe the Samsung Galaxy S3 onwards. This will definitely affects elevation gain or loss readings. There's an example in the net where elevation gain reading are very different where a Garmin was downloaded, the reading was 1,790 meters gain and the same unit downloaded to Strava, it reads 2,615 meters and worse still, Strava on an Iphone the gain showed a massive 3,468 meters

Map for me is important because my courses are all mapped with Garmin Connect after scrutinizing Google Maps and after charting the course, I need the 800 to navigate me through the intended off road or on road course. Actually, speed, and distance readings is secondary to my usage. The elevation and navigation is more important for my usage. So, it differs for road bikers, mountain bikers and other bikers. I have also used the Garmin eTrex 30 on my bike before and after comparisons, the Garmin Edge 800 is more accurate when navigating. Surprising isn't it?

For more info about elevation gain readings,
https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/communi...468m-elev-gain-

Waw..mine should have use v brake also.heartache wo drill here n there.