Thanks!

Im a local grad too, joined 2 out of the big 4 firms before.

So being a local grad would not unable you to join these firms.

It's a huge relief hearing that! Thanks man

ACCA & CPA ...not sure about ICAEW

Will it easy to secure a permanent staff after done intern at any Big 4?

if you perform okay, it should open the door already. personally think they prefer to take someone who already knows their culture.

unless during the intern time, u just go thr and wait time pass

fresh grad? mostly test on deductibility of expenses, maybe revise on budget 2016

Hi HappyHealthWealth, have you heard back from Deloitte after the case study session/interview? It has been 10 days since my case study and I have not heard back from them..

Anyone who has experience with being recruited by Deloitte, usually how long does it take for them to revert back to you after interview/case study? Thanks in advance!

May I know how long does PwC take to respond to online application?I applied for tax associate position in KL roughly 4 weeks ago.No response so far.Can anyone tell me whether PwC has december intake for tax?

Anyone can enlighten me that how much salary of ACCA member can get in Big4? Exp. wise 8 years in small firm.

Tq.

I interned in one of the big4 firms, and I believe I did well, just that the HR exec wasn't satisfied with my attitude when I first talked to him. He said that I sounded mad, and on the other hand, the other HR guy always pretended like he did not read my message enquiring on job opportunities+made me sound like I was forcing the firm to offer me a permanent placement, which was the reason why I appeared angry when I approached the exec.

I mean, it wasn't really my fault that they didn't entertain us, vacation trainees, at all. Now my friends got offers at the firm, yet I get nothing. There's actually one thing I'm sure of, I did well in a tax competition organised by the firm (which was the main factor that made me stand out from the rest), and my friends they didn't get anything or helped out at the competition as committee+I was even closer to landing a job as I knew the 'main players' at the office who introduced me to the HR manager.

I've submitted applications on Dec18&19 to two of the big firms. Now I still get no reply.

I made myself clear in my cover letters that I'd like to work in JB. I wonder if they have smaller offices and lesser vacancies/openings at JB branches. Is that why my applications are still pending?

I planned to start in a really small firm, working as a part-time audit clerk in my hometown while waiting for their replies. But would it be better if I applied to medium firms in JB? Do they have even smaller space and lesser opportunities? I've turned down offers coming from KL big , just to wait for interview appointments+to get a job in Singapore.

I was even lucky enough to be called by a big 4 recruiter to arrange for an interview appointment (previously, I rejected its internship offer) yet I was waiting for replies from Sg firms, so I told her I'd like to wait two to three weeks and to tell her the time when I make my decision, and when I finally emailed her at the end of the second week, she replied by saying that I needed to wait while my job application was being processed (and here I thought she called initially to fix an interview date and time with me??), and eventually the firm sent me an official email, stating that they decided to not process my job application, I was totally at a loss. Now I've applied to its JB firm, will I still get a reply from the firm?

This post has been edited by tatabahasa: Dec 29 2015, 09:29 PM

Sometimes the attitude matters more than the performance because obedient employees are good employees cause they take orders well

Not saying you're wrong but it is always good to approach things tactfully (even though the person you're dealing with is an ass).
Imagine this, you already got off the wrong foot with HR before landing a permanent job at the big four..that doesn't sound very nice

What you can do is contact the manager that you've worked with..if he's fine with giving you a job, maybe he can give the HR a push

So do you wanna work in SG or JB?
When you submit your application online, you should apply for the job at respective location.. if you want a position at JB, you should apply to that job code (assuming it is open for application). Why not you call the HR up to find out why your application is still pending? They are the best person to answer your query

JB firm or KL firm..really shouldn't matter..each location with the same position should have a specific job code.. if you apply for JB job, i assume the application will be processed by JB HR...after all, they are totally different branches

Chances are always first come first serve, if you decline or withhold their invitation to the interview, they can always pass it on to another candidate..

Thanks, Pherac. That does sound doable.🤔 I should probably try contacting my supervisor and ask for their opinions on this. Will let you know when there's a good news.

At first, I wanted to get into Sg firms (didn't matter big / medium / small). I attended interviews at a big firm and a telecomm company and was told I wasn't experienced enough. I then changed my office preference to JB (since I've moved back to Johor).

There are basically two things I need to ponder on before applying to KL offices (currently don't have a car+just regained my driving license, probably get a car in KL after settling down) finding a place to stay and moving my stuff from my cousin's in Sekinchan. I need to also consider the costs involved as well as a place to spend overnight (travelling on a tight budget). I know how hard it is to find the best place to stay for a long time. I only managed to get an expensive room near where I interned just a month before my internship started(Would've turned down that offer if I hadn't found a suitable room).

Now I've applied to big firms' JB offices in a bid to stay near my hometown (born and raised in Kluang, not JB), and plan to apply to Sg firms again after a year or two (lack of experience shouldn't really be an excuse 😢, I'm a fresh grad after all).

I tried calling KL offices this afternoon, but one of the HR didn't pick up and another HR was engaged. Maybe you're right, I might as well try their JB branches. Do their JB branches have HR dept?

I actually have connected with the HR on Linkedin, and I approached to ask about job opportunities in JB. He asked to applied online for the post, but sadly, the HR didn't bother replying after I told her I applied to JB yet hadn't heard back.

By the way, the replies I got from my supervisor regarding getting my manager to PUSH the HR(the earlier conversation) were:
1. It should be alright to ask for the manager's help;
2. The supervisor helself was keen to help, but she also understood the reasons why I seemed angry and rude when dealing with the HR exec, so hoping me to comprehend the fact that the HR of the firm are so used to ignoring ppl's requests and it's best to keep on checking with them (exactly what I did in the past but only resulted in agitating the HR staff), normally takes one to two months to process;
3. I should go for other firms, too(well, this afternoon I rejected a recruitment firm's request to confirm an interview appointment due to location of the office+the client is a commercial firm)
4. The firm's CMD in fact planned on cutting costs--the HR seemed to have frozen hiring tax staff (btw, I was a trainee in tax dept)

True but the costs involved are also what I'm concerned with. If it's somewhere in the place I stayed before (the place where I interned in), it should be fine for me to get a suitable room+I'm familiar with the area.

There should be, reasonably, more vacancies in JB, rite?? Because everyone is leaving for Sg. Is it because the experienced staff all went to work in sg, they find it hard to recruit so they reduce the headcount/ vacancies available?? I don't see why there's competition in JB labour force.

Since I still get nothing, I plan to go to career fair in KL in Feb, the HR won't hesitate to take my application into consideration this time around, will they?

When being asked if I had any hands-on experience in the field of expertise I applied for, I told them the truth, zero work-related experience, but willing to learn (even when they asked: the firm might not get a seat for you for the in-house training and your work was gonna be predominantly mundane, would you still be okay with that? Absolutely fine as long as I get to learn, I replied). I don't get it why I couldn't impress the panel. Was I too weak in responding? Did I offend (somehow) them by telling them the tax knowledge and the competition I took part in was entirely based on Malaysian tax laws (the sm asked Sg or Msian tax)? I can't bring myself to think that someone would waste peoples time having an interview even though they knew for a fact that the candidact didn't have experience (by looking at resume).

Part of the reason why I was reluctant to go for the KL interviews was that I was tired to study again (the interview arrangement call was received after sg interview). I studied hard for the sg interview (there was a case study on Sg gst before interview) and in the end they wanted someone with experience. I always try to see the best in others and have faith that they gave me the chance to showcase myself (one of the SMs walked out the interview room before I even started talking 😩).

Would appreciate if we can get more input about the Consulting Part of the Big 4 Firms.

You can find more info about consulting on the Big 4 website. It depends on which service lines you want to get into. Be it IT, risk, finance, business, deal, sustainability etc
The consulting sector among the Big 4 firms are almost similar, they are literally competing for the "same piece of cake" (Clients) in Malaysia.

Why not join one of the big 4 across the causeway? 3x pay

It's not as easy as it seems. They need to pay higher levy for foreign workers now. If im xwrong, SGD 300+ per pax.

I also heard that the big4 firms in Malaysia were reluctant to recruit foreigners as they had to pay for the visas+levies too, odds are, this applies to Sg big firms and they are particularly selective on hiring foreign workers. only those with experience will be considered.

Now even the Sg graduates also offer themselves for below market rates, needless to say, the Sg firms will surely prioritise sg local graduates (no need permits, levies and quotas to applied for permits)