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 Investors Club V9, Previously known as Traders Kopitiam

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Avangelice
post May 26 2017, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ May 26 2017, 11:41 AM)
Damn, i haven't been following much on AA and AAX.
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Don't get me wrong. Airasia is one heck of a company. they survived through thick and thin against all the big airlines that are Goverment owned.

the fundamentals are there and I am holding on AAX for a long time but be advised I can see hidden hands with big pockets meddling in these two counters. not for a faint of heart.
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post May 26 2017, 12:09 PM

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post May 26 2017, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(IMBeta305 @ May 26 2017, 09:55 AM)
Sifu, Actually how to use NTA in determining share price?
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You can't. You need more value. But you can roughly estimate the risk of your investment using NTA alone. It's the net worth per share of a company. It generally mean if the company go bankrupt today, all you get​ per share is the NTA. Simple rules is to make sure NTA should be less than 2/3 of share price to minimize your risk.

I asked this question here before but sifus here no reply me. I found this out by researching my own and I'm not sure whether I'm correct.

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post May 26 2017, 01:04 PM

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[quote=Nemozai,May 26 2017, 12:32 PM]
You can't. You need more value. But you can roughly estimate the risk of your investment using NTA alone. It's the net worth per share of a company. It generally mean if the company go bankrupt today, all you get​ per share is the NTA. Simple rules is to make sure NTA is not less than 2/3 of share price to minimize your risk.

I asked this question here before but sifus here no reply me. I found this out by researching my own and I'm not sure whether I'm correct.

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thanks. see if another sifu can confirm
SUSPink Spider
post May 26 2017, 01:22 PM

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I've said before and will say it again

AirAsia stock is shark favourite

Hold it thru thick and thin and u will be rewarded

Try to goreng it and u will be gored by the sharks
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post May 26 2017, 01:24 PM

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Salary coming out soon, looking for cheap long term stock, any recommendation? RM1 or lower stock

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post May 26 2017, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ May 26 2017, 01:24 PM)
Salary coming out soon, looking for cheap long term stock, any recommendation? RM1 or lower stock
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post May 26 2017, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 26 2017, 12:00 PM)
Don't get me wrong. Airasia is one heck of a company. they survived through thick and thin against all the big airlines that are Goverment owned.

the fundamentals are there and I am holding on AAX for a long time but be advised I can see hidden hands with big pockets meddling in these two counters. not for a faint of heart.
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You are right, I am holding it for now. nth can be seen in short term. We already know this stock can go up and down very fast. So we have to pay attention when their insider push it up in the coming months.
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post May 26 2017, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ May 26 2017, 01:24 PM)
Salary coming out soon, looking for cheap long term stock, any recommendation? RM1 or lower stock
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post May 26 2017, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ May 26 2017, 01:55 PM)
BRAHIM, come join me for U turn play.  cool2.gif
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i got very little in Brahim since 2016. blink.gif
Havent really got a profit. just holding paper cry.gif
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post May 26 2017, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 26 2017, 12:00 PM)
Don't get me wrong. Airasia is one heck of a company. they survived through thick and thin against all the big airlines that are Goverment owned.

the fundamentals are there and I am holding on AAX for a long time but be advised I can see hidden hands with big pockets meddling in these two counters. not for a faint of heart.
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Dont think that it was a teaser about merging AAX and TunePro, he said that they were going to collaborate and that TuneProtect was trying to get into Fintech (or some digital stuffs) to fully maximise their potential.

Was it maybe some external guy that started the rumour ?
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post May 26 2017, 03:46 PM

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[quote=IMBeta305,May 26 2017, 01:04 PM]
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thanks. see if another sifu can confirm
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Meaning, you pick stocks based on NTA because you think you will get something back in case of liquidation.

But I wouldn't touch a atock with significant risk of liquidation lah...
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post May 26 2017, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ May 25 2017, 03:32 PM)
I swapped PChem with Insas.

I placed an order for Insas this morning at RM0.960 but I then cancelled the order. Now I bought at a higher price of RM1.010. It is currently up 8.108%.
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Tp is RM1.3
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post May 26 2017, 04:18 PM

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[quote=river.sand,May 26 2017, 03:46 PM]
thanks. see if another sifu can confirm
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[/quote]

Meaning, you pick stocks based on NTA because you think you will get something back in case of liquidation.

But I wouldn't touch a atock with significant risk of liquidation lah...
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thats the only way to interpret NTA?
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post May 26 2017, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(feralee @ May 26 2017, 03:52 PM)
Tp is RM1.3
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Thanks bro.
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post May 26 2017, 06:12 PM

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wow.. so many good stocks with good fundamental/earning are red today...
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post May 26 2017, 09:24 PM

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small cap index down. lots of profit taking
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post May 27 2017, 08:37 AM

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[quote=IMBeta305,May 26 2017, 04:18 PM]
Meaning, you pick stocks based on NTA because you think you will get something back in case of liquidation.

But I wouldn't touch a atock with significant risk of liquidation lah...
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thats the only way to interpret NTA?
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some player analyse and value company based on the company intangible assets and projected earning based on announced new project etc... too.
Given NTA vs current market share traded how much market perceived the growth earning power , intangible assets or etc.
As many guru said before, investment is like art more than science.

Just imagine you bought a piece of land 30 years ago RM10k without any revaluation, in this case NTA obviously is not a true indicator for the land right?

Imagine the you buy a,

Company A vs company B both have the exact same NTA. Company A no more generating profit while company B still making profit above FD rate lets say. Obviously company B is worth more than company A.

There are lot of books teaching teachinh these financial ratio. But if you personally involve in business, it helps you to understand better i would say. tongue.gif

Sorry for long wind post rclxub.gif
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post May 27 2017, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 26 2017, 01:22 PM)
I've said before and will say it again

AirAsia stock is shark favourite

Hold it thru thick and thin and u will be rewarded

Try to goreng it and u will be gored by the sharks
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Agreed!! I missed a buy opportunity when it dropped briefly to below RM3 that day. bye.gif
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post May 27 2017, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(eyerule @ May 26 2017, 09:24 PM)
small cap index down. lots of profit taking
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What's the trigger for Friday sell down? Theory anyone?

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