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post Dec 3 2006, 01:53 PM, updated 18y ago

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London, 2038. According to legend, when the ravens depart the Tower of London, it will crumble to rubble and disaster will befall England. As man became more dependent on science, believing only in what he could define or create, ancient knowledge and rituals were lost to the antiquity of time. Prophecies that had stood as warning for untold generations were seen as archaic folly or ignorant superstition. So, when the harbingers of evil began to manifest, few saw and fewer believed. When the demons finally came, there was little that stood in their way. Their brute force and overwhelming numbers swept the globe with little trouble. Mankind was forced underground, scavenging to survive. Now, 18 years after the demonic invasion of 2020, in the winding tunnels of the London underground, a new Alliance is forming to battle the hordes of hell that have destroyed London. Templar Knights, Arcane Cabalists and Demon Hunters are uniting in mankind's Alliance. Join them, push the demons back to hell, and reclaim the surface.

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Trailers:
Intro Cinematics - QT
Intro Cinematics - WMV
Boss Battles Trailer HD - QT
Boss Battles Trailer HD - WMV
Gameplay Montage HD - QT
Gameplay Montage HD - WMV

Single Player Demo:(DirectX 9 ONLY)
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Official System Requirements:
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Latest Multiplayer Patch:
Patch 0.7:(Available in SEA!)
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Patch 1:(Not Available in SEA!)
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Patch 1.1:(Not Available in SEA!)
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Latest Singleplayer Patch:
Patch 0.6:
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SP Patch 0.6 Download Sites:(SEA)
Official SEA Hellgate Download Link
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Official Site:
http://www.hellgatelondon.com - US
http://hellgate.iahgames.com - SEA

Support FAQ:
IAH Support FAQ

Hellgate: London Online Multiplayer
Hellgate: London's online multiplayer is free of charge right out of the box, you can play the entire single player game online with others for free. However there is also a monthly subscription available to those that want more stuff to do in the game. I have compiled a list of features (from here) available to free accounts and subscriber accounts. Some of these features are already available now and there are others that will be available in the near future.

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post Dec 3 2006, 02:46 PM

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yeah waiting for this game to come out here quite some time now hehe, but the graphics are very heavyyyy
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post Dec 3 2006, 02:48 PM

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what are the minimum and recommended system specs gonna be like?.. hpoe my 7600gt n 1gb of ram can run it smoothly..
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post Dec 3 2006, 02:59 PM

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hiya... what about 1GB... AMD Athlon 3000+ and a 6800GS?? Can run it smoothly arr??
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post Dec 3 2006, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(Kai Sheng @ Dec 3 2006, 02:59 PM)
hiya... what about 1GB... AMD Athlon 3000+ and a 6800GS?? Can run it smoothly arr??
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lol.. thats more or less my system specs la.. if i can run it smoothly.. then you should be able to do it too.. we'll just have to wait and see..

BTW, this is gonna be a DX10 game rite?
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post Dec 3 2006, 08:01 PM

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My pc spec are AMD64 X2 4200+ 2GB DDR Ram and Geforce 7900GT can run it smoothly arrr?Because this game eat allot of graphic i not sure can play with High or Medium graphic wat do u think?
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post Dec 3 2006, 08:29 PM

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This game will be a DX9/DX10 game, so relax. I think if you can play Oblivion smoothly you should not have any problem with this game but the online portion is another matter entirely (ie. latency).
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post Dec 3 2006, 09:32 PM

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Thanks for telling me...So i think this Hellgate London gonna be a great game like Oblivion because almost same First person RPG...So Hellgate London can play Multiplayer as well rite.... if can good lerr...
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post Dec 3 2006, 10:57 PM

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I cant wait for this game too.Seems fun to me.
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post Dec 3 2006, 11:56 PM

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hmmm? someone said its singleplayer? Im pretty sure its a mmorpg
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post Dec 3 2006, 11:59 PM

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^It is a single player game with multiplayer capabilities like all other games........
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post Dec 4 2006, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(XaVieRGizmo @ Dec 3 2006, 11:56 PM)
hmmm? someone said its singleplayer? Im pretty sure its a mmorpg
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Think of it as Diablo 2/LOD you can play it in single player/multiplayer but in Hellgate the multiplayer is something like Guild Wars, when log in online you spawn in the city where you can organize into groups, buy/sell stuff, get quests, etc., then when you leave the city its all instance gameplay either solo or with your party. In Hellgate, the levels are randomly generated so everytime you play its different. I just hope its f.o.c. to play online like GW.
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post Dec 4 2006, 09:09 PM

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very nice cinematics. when';s the release date btw?
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post Dec 4 2006, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Dec 4 2006, 09:09 PM)
very nice cinematics. when';s the release date btw?
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No release date, considering the people making the game are former Blizzard employees, the good estimate is "when its done". All we can do is hope for a 2007 release. sweat.gif
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post Dec 4 2006, 09:41 PM

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what the story about?
hell demon vs human?
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post Dec 4 2006, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Dec 4 2006, 09:41 PM)
what the story about?
hell demon vs human?
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yep , like Diablo series , but now with guns .
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post Dec 5 2006, 10:34 AM

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and also swords! lol...watch the gameplay trailer u will know.
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post Dec 5 2006, 11:16 AM

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drool.gif drool.gif this is one game which i'm gonna get. smile.gif coming from the makers of diablo and starcraft, it's gonna be one hell of a game. Btw, the dev mentioned that the multiplayer side will be something like diablo 2, meaning shared town and random generated instances. Figured it'll be free as long you buy the original game and have the original cd-key.
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QUOTE(LWRNCH6550 @ Dec 4 2006, 10:51 PM)
yep , like Diablo series , but now with guns .
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guns....? hm... sounds like tat game Restricted area which is so buggy tat i broke the disc... laugh.gif
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post Dec 5 2006, 06:26 PM

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so in the future, demons like to eat women's breasts?

that's not new!!! Everybody love breasts, including demons.

meh.
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post Dec 5 2006, 06:29 PM

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Hrm... this game features are something like diablo rite that you can play single player or lan game?? And i read in the newspaper or internet ady i forgot where that they mention this game is for directx 10... so directx 9 can support?
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post Dec 5 2006, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(kelv!n @ Dec 5 2006, 06:29 PM)
Hrm... this game features are something like diablo rite that you can play single player or lan game?? And i read in the newspaper or internet ady i forgot where that they mention this game is for directx 10... so directx 9 can support?
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Read the entire thread you'll find your answers.

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post Dec 5 2006, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(kelv!n @ Dec 5 2006, 06:29 PM)
Hrm... this game features are something like diablo rite that you can play single player or lan game?? And i read in the newspaper or internet ady i forgot where that they mention this game is for directx 10... so directx 9 can support?
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From what i read, the game is DX10 enabled. In other words, if you have a DX10 card, you will get extra details that a DX9 card couldn't produce. However, i personally find that quite absurd cuz shelling out big buck for a DX10 card just for that is abit crazy unless of course if you have the cash to begin with.

As for the multiplayer side, there should local servers - most probably in singapore considering IAH has bought the licenses for the SEA region.
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with directX 10, I can see the demons "realistically" eat the cabalist's breast.

mhhhhhhhh.
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post Dec 5 2006, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(SilverCrimz @ Dec 5 2006, 07:30 PM)
From what i read, the game is DX10 enabled. In other words, if you have a DX10 card, you will get extra details that a DX9 card couldn't produce. However, i personally find that quite absurd cuz shelling out big buck for a DX10 card just for that is abit crazy unless of course if you have the cash to begin with.
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DX10 graphic cards aren't the only thing you'll be spending money for, you'll also need Vista.

QUOTE(SilverCrimz @ Dec 5 2006, 07:30 PM)
As for the multiplayer side, there should local servers - most probably in singapore considering IAH has bought the licenses for the SEA region.
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Yep, I saw that on MTV. There was an event in Singapore where Bill Roper came down to show a build of Hellgate to the public. At least this game will have better online support since there will already be local servers at launch.

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post Dec 5 2006, 10:24 PM

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So do u guys know the release date of this game?
My guess is around 2007 Dec
Or in January?
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post Dec 5 2006, 10:32 PM

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my guess is 2nd quarter of year 2007
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post Dec 6 2006, 03:53 AM

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if anyone wanna bulk buy this count me in.
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post Dec 6 2006, 09:30 AM

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should be release next year, quite interested in this game, and the online part is similiar to guild wars. now just need to wait for thm to announce whether online is free or have to pay
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post Dec 6 2006, 02:44 PM

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really hope is free to play... p2p is gona be really expensive @_@
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post Dec 7 2006, 12:38 PM

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It is free to play. It'll be something like Battle.net iirc.
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post Dec 8 2006, 12:32 PM

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Take a peek at the various aspects of the game in RPGVault...

Hellgate: London Peek #1 - Project Concept

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As for release dates, we're looking to start our small, closed beta at the very end of this year / beginning of 2007, and then depending on how well the test goes, we'll set a release window.


Hellgate: London Peek #2 - Story and Setting

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We then have a massive amount of diversity within the types of environments, rarity of levels, and special events that only happen within certain ones at certain times.


Hellgate: London Peek #3 - Gameworld and Gameplay Goals

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Hellgate: London Peek #4 - Characters

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Characters will be able to have a high level of distinction from each other. You will see many different flavors of Templar, for example, based on the choices the players make.


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post Dec 8 2006, 03:07 PM

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hmm... it feels more like the Vampire Masquarades: bloodlines...
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post Dec 10 2006, 02:37 AM

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juz watch the trailer
very nice
n also means wan ply hellgate london = buy 8800GTX cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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post Dec 10 2006, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Dec 10 2006, 02:37 AM)
juz watch the trailer
very nice
n also means wan ply hellgate london = buy 8800GTX cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Nope, you should be able to play with a Geforce 6000 and 7000 series and Radeon X1000 series.
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post Dec 10 2006, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Dec 10 2006, 03:37 AM)
juz watch the trailer
very nice
n also means wan ply hellgate london = buy 8800GTX cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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i'm sure next year will release mid-range directx10 card. So don't worry too much la biggrin.gif Anyway, directx9 card still can play
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post Dec 10 2006, 07:39 PM

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They have unveiled the third class: Hunters.
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post Dec 10 2006, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(Koross @ Dec 10 2006, 07:39 PM)
They have unveiled the third class: Hunters.
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Those are not called classes its called factions and there will be 9 classes for the 3 factions!!!(3 classes for each) The coolest thing about these guys is the combat will be twitch based and it will be like a FPS(think Painkiller). It means they won't have the auto targeting the Templars and Cabalist have. I think this is going to be my favorite faction. cool.gif
Now I wish they would release gameplay videos for the Hunters.

Here is a more detailed preview of the Hunter...

Be vewy, vewy quiet, I'm hunting a demon - Hunter Skills Revealed!


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UPDATE!

Another preview of the Hunter...

Gamespy Hellgate: London Hunter Preview

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post Dec 11 2006, 01:34 AM

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yeah...i like FPS style. and constructing a bot sounds fun too. i wonder how many bots we can construct at one time. muahahha...
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Looking forward to this game
And as for the drones..i think most probably only one is allowed at one time
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post Dec 12 2006, 06:42 PM

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New Gameplay Movie!

Movie of actual gameplay (640x480, 2:29, MOV) - QT

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Movie of actual gameplay - QT

Movie of actual gameplay - WMV
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post Dec 15 2006, 11:02 AM

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A new peek at Hellgate.

Hellgate: London Peek #5 - Combat & Enemies

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The melee Imps can charge in and keep the player occupied while the ranged attackers pepper from afar, sticking and moving as they do. The shaman then can either shield and heal the front line fighters or use his ranged spells


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post Dec 15 2006, 11:05 AM

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Somehow I couldn't shake away the feeling that this game is a futuristic Diablo :/ ........

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post Dec 15 2006, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(psyhun @ Dec 15 2006, 11:05 AM)
Somehow I couldn't shake away the feeling that this game is a futuristic Diablo :/ ........
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cuz it's done by the people who did diablo as well?
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Yeah, I know...... but, is it really meant to be like a 'futuristic diablo'?!
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post Dec 15 2006, 04:37 PM

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looks good already... like the mix of demons and modern world setting...

personally, i've always like the steampunk setting or the sword n sorcery vs tech settings...
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QUOTE(psyhun @ Dec 15 2006, 03:39 PM)
Yeah, I know...... but, is it really meant to be like a 'futuristic diablo'?!
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Maybe they wanted to recreate or emulate the success of Diablo series.
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The 'auto-aim-homing' weapons turn me off =_=
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post Dec 17 2006, 11:11 AM

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Then play the hunter faction. They emulate more of the fps shooters action and their weapons focus on aiming and skill.
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The graphics look awesome....i wonder how many gigs needed to install and how long the gameplay can be finish the whole game story
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post Dec 22 2006, 01:48 PM

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Another peek at Hellgate London. The screens also show the HUD.

Hellgate: London Peek #6 - Items and Magic

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Cabalists are our main spell-casters and they use the powers of the Demons against them. Some of their spells require a Focus device to properly channel and control the dark energies of the underworld.


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post Dec 23 2006, 01:37 AM

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was walkin' round Low Yat da other day, and TechDos were playing the trailer on their display pc - all i can say is WOW, the game looks NICE! can't wait...
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whats the official launch date?.. and minimum requirements?.. i hope my p4 will be able to run it smoothly with medium/high graphics
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QUOTE(zx12 @ Jan 1 2007, 12:55 PM)
whats the official launch date?.. and minimum requirements?.. i hope my p4 will be able to run it smoothly with medium/high graphics
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I think as long as can play oblivion smoothly. I guess you can play this game in medium graphics blush.gif
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post Jan 6 2007, 01:52 PM

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Hellgate's latest peek!

Hellgate: London Peek #7 - 3 Quest Types: Quests, Missions & Chance Events

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randomly placed occurrences in the world... can take place in any area, and just like the environments themselves, are randomly generated so you'll never know what you're going to find.


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when is this game gonna release huh? always made me drool with their screenies...damn.
btw, there's widescreen support from the pic. so, yay? drool.gif

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post Jan 8 2007, 01:56 PM

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1st week of january 2007 about to end...cannot tahan >,<; when launching in malaysia?
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post Jan 9 2007, 12:48 AM

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Widescreen support is a must for all Game for Windows games. I wouldn't be surprised if this game is released by the end of the year the earliest but knowing these Ex-Blizzard guys their motto is 'When Its Done' so don't hold your breath.

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Just got some latest official info on the launch date for Hellgate.

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Electronic Arts, Chertsey UK. - January 8, 2007 - Electronic Arts Inc. (NASDAQ: ERTS) and NAMCO BANDAI Games America Inc. today announced a summer 2007 worldwide ship window for the highly-anticipated online action RPG Hellgate: London(tm), the first original PC title from premier developer Flagship Studios.

"We are all committed to making Hellgate: London absolutely the best game possible," said Bill Roper, CEO of Flagship Studios. "The anticipation surrounding the game is immense and we are looking forward to its launch being a truly worldwide event."


PRESS RELEASE: EA AND NAMCO BANDAI GAMES AMERICA ANNOUNCE SUMMER 2007 SHIP WINDOW FOR HELLGATE: LONDON

Summer is usually starts around June so keep your fingers crossed. smile.gif

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phew...at least still got time, i was thinking early this year still alot of stuff to buy to upgrade my pc with...

rclxm9.gif 2007 budget sure increase alot of good stuff to spend money on lol...

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this time around have to upgrade my pc..
really want to play this game.. been waiting for this game from it was first anounce
only 6 months away so close yet so far hmm.gif
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post Jan 10 2007, 05:38 PM

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Hellgate London will have subscription for online play after all. doh.gif

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Shacknews has word on Hellgate: London multiplayer, saying online play in Flagship's coming action/RPG will be subscription-based, quoting Bill Roper as saying this will spark debate over whether the game is an MMO or not. Word is they have plans to roll out a beta test before this service goes live, and the system will include some provision for free or trial play. Multiplayer gameplay will be instanced, with some minor form of PvP.


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Got new update info about the game from CES 2007.

CES 07: Hellgate: London Updated Impressions

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crap. means no LAN? we will be "forced" to use private servers then. no point buying the game.
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jan 10 2007, 10:47 PM)
crap. means no LAN? we will be "forced" to use private servers then. no point buying the game.
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This game was never designed to be a LAN game it only has single player + online multiplayer. Always thought the online mulitplayer was going to be free like Guild Wars but looks like Guild Wars will still be the king of free mmorpg.
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interesting trailer....but somehow i dont really like the futuristic elements+devils/satans concept

prefer old skool+devils/satans like Diablo smile.gif

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QUOTE(Araes @ Jan 11 2007, 12:57 AM)
This game was never designed to be a LAN game it only has single player + online multiplayer. Always thought the online mulitplayer was going to be free like Guild Wars but looks like Guild Wars will still be the king of free mmorpg.
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Upon reading the full article, it appears to be a direct ripoff of Guild Wars really. Heavily instanced team PvE and PvP missions... with guilds (Or something of the sort).

True enough, that it plays differently, but the core multiplayer mode is GW.

I just hope this lowers the sticker price a little (Or at the very least comes with one month online play)
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LoL...ok now they are saying the online subcription is not confirmed yet. doh.gif

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Update: Since posting our original news item on the matter, Shacknews has been contacted by Electronic Arts, which is co-publishing the game along with Namco Bandai. EA noted that there has not in fact been any final decision made as to Hellgate: London's online pricing model, be it subscription-based or otherwise. We respect this situation, while maintaining that we have reported fairly on statements we received. A full interview is forthcoming.


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Bill Roper on Hellgate: London Online

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More CES 2007 Gameplay videos...

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CES 07 Windows Vista Urban Destruction Gameplay - WMV

CES 07 Windows Vista Monster Extermination Gameplay - QT

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QUOTE(Araes @ Jan 11 2007, 12:57 AM)
This game was never designed to be a LAN game it only has single player + online multiplayer. Always thought the online mulitplayer was going to be free like Guild Wars but looks like Guild Wars will still be the king of free mmorpg.
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i know. i mean, at least give us option to choose, be it single player, multiplayer over internet or LAN. just like other RPG (titan quest...). this aint MMORPG (welp, not the way they announced it earlier, other than yesterday's post). haha...
good thing they din go hard into the subscription thing. gonna see how things turn out then.

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i really hope they include the " LAN " mode , it'll be better with LAN .
Again , im very amazed from the screen shot i saw , an old school Unreal 2+ engine , its been heavily modified and the LOD of the weapons and character looks sooo good even the facial looks good . unreal graphic engines sure is really flexible .
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Erm sry for interrupt... wad type of control the game uses? Old school mouse movement? or keyboard FPS type? coz i saw some jumping scene...
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QUOTE(LWRNCH6550 @ Jan 12 2007, 01:41 AM)
i really hope they include the " LAN " mode , it'll be better with LAN .
Again , im very amazed from the screen shot i saw , an old school Unreal 2+ engine , its been heavily modified and the LOD of the weapons and character looks sooo good even the facial looks good . unreal graphic engines sure is really flexible .
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Errr...Unreal 2? This is an all new engine built by Flagship Studios. Unreal 2 engine does not have the power to do randomized levels. If they were going to use Unreal engine to power this game don't you think they would use Unreal 3.0 engine instead?

QUOTE(Cloudx @ Jan 12 2007, 02:15 AM)
Erm sry for interrupt... wad type of control the game uses? Old school mouse movement? or keyboard FPS type? coz i saw some jumping scene...
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Both keyboard + mouse. Yes there is FPShooting + hack and slash & magic. It would have WASD movement.

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NEW Peek at Hellgate!

Hellgate: London Peek #8 - Multiplayer

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We've dedicated ourselves to providing a lot of ongoing content after the game ships, and this means when you're online, you'll be getting more and more.


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We've dedicated ourselves to providing a lot of ongoing content after the game ships, and this means when you're online, you'll be getting more and more.


we need to pay or no pay? hahaha... laugh.gif that's the main point.
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Hope its affordable...
Really wanna buy the ori 1 to keep as collection if cheap thumbup.gif
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we need to pay or no pay? hahaha... laugh.gif that's the main point.
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Hope its affordable...
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Yea, I hope there will be a cool collector's edition like the ones from Blizzard.
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New info on Hellgate: London... More importantly new info on the multiplayer component.

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Bill Roper: We have always had the intention of providing rich, robust, massively multiplayer online gaming experiences for our players. This means that we will be providing everything from a secure client/server infrastructure to 24/7 customer support to maintaining a complete live team to provide not only balance and bug fixes, but more importantly, continuing, ongoing content updates to the game. And while we are still finalizing the commercial and game aspects of our online plans, we can tell players that there will definitely be significant free online play.


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"Significant"? Sounds to me like they're offering both free AND P2P for their multiplayer service... Wonder how that's going to work out unsure.gif
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Jan 18 2007, 10:32 PM)
New info on Hellgate: London... More importantly new info on the multiplayer component.
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"Significant"? Sounds to me like they're offering both free AND P2P for their multiplayer service... Wonder how that's going to work out unsure.gif
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I hope to play is free (with free patches) and only charge for additional content.

P.S. the Q&A was from Gamespot originally. Here
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QUOTE(Araes @ Jan 19 2007, 12:51 AM)
I hope to play is free (with free patches) and only charge for additional content.

P.S. the Q&A was from Gamespot originally. Here
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"additional content" usually means u'll be missing out on alot of cool stuff.. then you'll end up paying "just abit" to get one specific item that you really2 need..
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QUOTE(zx12 @ Jan 19 2007, 12:59 AM)
"additional content" usually means u'll be missing out on alot of cool stuff.. then you'll end up paying "just abit" to get one specific item that you really2 need..
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Nothing wrong with that. They been doing it in Guild Wars and Oblivion. I say if they really want to charge for something let it be for additional content instead of charging for full online play. Lesser of two evils, I think.

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yeah...i hope their idea is that i bought HG:L, and i get to play thru scene A, B, C, D and E online. (just like those "Acts" in D2). with that say, 100 weapons in game. and get constant updates which fix bugs, balance...bla bla. maybe new monster, items and weapons or two sometimes.

if u paid and play, u will get continuous updated scenes F, G, H...bla bla...and maybe now u have 140 types of weapon instead of the default 100. and more enemies, items...etc.

if it's like that, i am fine with it.

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QUOTE(Araes @ Jan 12 2007, 02:17 AM)
Errr...Unreal 2? This is an all new engine built by Flagship Studios. Unreal 2 engine  does not have the power to do randomized levels. If they were going to use Unreal engine to power this game don't you think they would use Unreal 3.0 engine instead?
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it is possible that Unreal 2.+ engine can do that and it already did . games like StarWars : R.Commando uses Unreal 2.+ engine and those game engines are quite capable to do that .
btw , you can tell from the details of the backgrounds and texture even from those new DX10 screenshots . its just the DX10's Shader and the n8series smoke and particle effects that made the game looks like its running a U3 engine .
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The multiplayer just need to play like Diablo and it will rocks .

Have been waiting the game for so freakin long time , coz anything with devil/london/sword , i'm in LOL .
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QUOTE(LWRNCH6550 @ Jan 26 2007, 02:04 AM)
it is possible that Unreal 2.+ engine can do that and it already did . games like StarWars : R.Commando uses Unreal 2.+ engine and those game engines are quite capable to do that .
btw , you can tell from the details of the backgrounds and texture even from those new DX10 screenshots . its just the DX10's Shader and the n8series smoke and particle effects that made the game looks like its running a U3 engine .
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Let's put this issue to rest shall we? I as far as I know from reading countless previews, reading interviews and watching videos interviews with staff of Flagship Studios this games engine is not using any part of Unreal engine whatsover. They had create this engine from scratch to support the increadible amount of randomization in game.

If you want to know more about the technology behind the game, have a look at the latest peek at Hellgate: London.

Hellgate: London Peek #9 - Technology and the Team

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18 of us worked at Blizzard North on the Diablo titles. Three of our founders - Dave Brevik, Erich Schaefer and Max Schaefer - were the original creators of the Diablo games.


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CES 2007 Gameplay movies:

Hellgate: London - CES 07 Sewer Assault Gameplay - QT

Hellgate: London - CES 07 Sewer Assault Gameplay - WMV

Hellgate: London - CES 07 Magic Shot Gameplay - QT

Hellgate: London - CES 07 Magic Shot Gameplay - WMV
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may i know a specific date of when this game is gonna come out ?
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No dates. The official release date is summer. That is, what, Q2?
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The first 2 classes of the Templar faction has been revealed, Blademaster and Guardian.

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The Blademaster class is an offensive specialist with skills such as "Sword of Justice" which focuses all strength into one blow, but leaves the attacker temporarily vulnerable afterward, "Charge" boosts the blademasters speed, allowing him to close the distance with an enemy, or flee if the battle goes badly and the "Throw Sword Mastery" lets the swordmaster hurl his blade through the air to strike down a distant foe, and this is the main ranged attack for the class.
The Guardian class is a "tank" class which heavily armored and capable of absorbing lots of damage.
Also the multiplayer has both free and a paid service.


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GDC 07: Hellgate: London Updated Impressions - The Blademaster and Guardian Classes

GDC 07: Hellgate: London - The Hack and the Slash

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Hellgate: London - GDC 07 Templar Trailer HD - WMV HD

Hellgate: London - GDC 07 Templar Trailer - QT Non-HD

Hellgate: London - GDC 07 Templar Trailer - WMV Non-HD

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No dates. The official release date is summer. That is, what, Q2?
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Jan~Mar ( Q1 )
Apr~Jun (Q2 )
so on and so forth .
well well , the screenies does bring back the Diablolic enviroment feel nod.gif . lol
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QUOTE(LWRNCH6550 @ Mar 22 2007, 12:54 AM)
Jan~Mar ( Q1 )
Apr~Jun (Q2 )
so on and so forth .
well well , the screenies does bring back the Diablolic enviroment feel  nod.gif . lol
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Yep, summer last from Q2 to Q3. If I would to guess, the eventual release would be sometime in Q3 which is latter part of summer in US.
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drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif nice screenies......anymore screenies especially with characters that uses sword? i saw this game first trailer quite long ago..... and i thought that it was a mmorpg. release expected during summer hehehehe enough of time for me to save money and buy a kick ass pc set when the game comes out brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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Hm, this game gonna like the modern version of Elder Scroll 4: Oblivion ?
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Mar 22 2007, 01:14 PM)
Hm, this game gonna like the modern version of Elder Scroll 4: Oblivion ?
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Not really, the gameplay take place randomized instance areas.

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DAm... cant wait to get this game.. hopefully my rig can "tahan" this game... heh

Talking abt "randomized instance areas".. isnt the first 'Action RPG' does that its good old Diablo?.. or Diablo2?.. me lupa liaoz.. or both?... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(TomatomanzSeedlezz @ Mar 22 2007, 06:59 PM)
DAm... cant wait to get this game.. hopefully my rig can "tahan" this game... heh

Talking abt "randomized instance areas".. isnt the first 'Action RPG' does that its good old Diablo?.. or Diablo2?.. me lupa liaoz.. or both?... tongue.gif

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Yes, Diablo series was one of the first to have randomized levels but Hellgate is probably the first to do it in 3D. Seeing how the the developers are the same it's not surprising. It's really neat to see the same area with a different layout everytime you enter it and gives a unique experience everytime.
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Also the multiplayer has both free and a paid service.
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Whats the difference between the free and pay version?
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Mar 22 2007, 09:04 PM)
Whats the difference between the free and pay version?
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Your guess is as good as mine. They said multiplayer will be free and also have premium content for those that want extra stuff.

I think playing multiplayer is free but any additional stuff will be charged. Still no details on what this will be yet though.
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If they release the free hellgate like FEAR Combat,that would be really sweet.

Anyway,im getting a copy if i can afford.
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QUOTE(Araes @ Mar 22 2007, 07:44 PM)
Yes, Diablo series was one of the first to have randomized levels but Hellgate is probably the first to do it in 3D. Seeing how the the developers are the same it's not surprising. It's really neat to see the same area with a different layout everytime you enter it and gives a unique experience everytime.
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Nosferatu had randomly generated levels.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Mar 22 2007, 11:23 PM)
If they release the free hellgate like FEAR Combat,that would be really sweet.

Anyway,im getting a copy if i can afford.
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Dude, you still need to pay for Hellgate retail copy. Multiplayer subcription is if you want extra premium stuff. FEAR Combat was totally free.

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A huge 5 part Hellgate blow out at 1UP. Its Hellgate week! smile.gif

Part 1 - The Sights And Sounds Of Hellgate - The aura, the audio, the atmosphere of Hellgate
with 2 in game music clips - Crypt Action & Main Rooms Action

Part 2 - A New Era For Action RPGS - Preview Of HG:L's Classes & Gameplay

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Our starter character came from this last group, the faction known as Hunters. Each faction now breaks down into two distinct class choices to further refine the roles they take -- either Marksman or Engineer in this case. Marksmen, as the name implies, know no equal in their skill with the various guns and rifles in the game. We went with an Engineer, though, who, along with knowing which end of the rifle to point at the enemy, augments that basic skill with the ability to build mechanical support devices, including an upgradeable droid that fights alongside you.


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For a look at what a more powered-up character could do we jumped into a midlevel Evoker, one of the two class options in the Cabalist faction. Members of the other faction, Summoners, get to call up demons to fight for them. And, as Roper demonstrated with a high-level character, that includes the named ones at the top of the demon food chain, like one called the Reaper he let out to rampage. But the attraction of the Evokers as the main magic blasters in the game ultimately won out: Most of their skill tree is devoted to different branches of magic such as spectral and electrical. As we learned once we began selecting some spells, that's only part of what it takes to unleash your mystical power.


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Ranged guns only comprise part of the arsenal. The third faction, the Templars, might use one here or there in special situations, but they're much more comfortable with a melee weapon in hand. Both of their two class options thrive on up close combat. The Guardians hold the title as the toughest class in the game. Not only do they wear heavy armor, their power increases the more demons there are surrounding and attacking them. The term "tank" never fit better. We couldn't resist playing with their more offense-minded counterparts, the Blademasters. Entirely intended for attack, their power boosts with every successive attack.


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Part 3 - Diablo Retro/Active - A look back at Diablo - A look back at Diablo
& Flagship's Dev Team - Meet the minds behind Hellgate

Part 4 - Hellgate's Leet Gear - From Noob to Vet, A Look At Hellgate's Lootz

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High: Grizzly Rifle
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Noob: Electric Eel Ejector
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High: Enigmatic Locus and Enigmatic Lens
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Guardian Class
Noob: Broadsword and Scarab Shield
Mid: Firebrand and Dominion Shield
High: Holy Negotiator and Imperial Shield
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The Hive Blade
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Part 5 - Flagship's Bill Roper Interviewed & Video Interview

Source: HELLGATE: LONDON COVER STORY - 1UP

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When will Hellgate release???
Coz i cannot wait liao...

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cant wait for the game to come out hehe..i heard it they would be releasing it around june... biggrin.gif
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OMG,im definitely taking Engineer.That class fits me.

Thanks for the update.
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I better finish my oblivion shivering isle fast before this game comes out .. this game is a gotta play game . !
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Ho ho ho...

The details on the differences in free and subscription based multiplayer has now been revealed!
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    * Multiplay will be free!
    * Elite Multiplay will cost you $9.95 a month
    * Secure, closed servers hold your characters, even if you're not Elite
    * Elite players get 24/7 phone and online support; plebs get basic online support as with any other game
    * If there are queues to get on a server, Elite players go to the front
    * Elite players can have 12 characters in total; plebs get 3
    * Elite players can store around 40 items in "lockers" spread throughout the world; plebs can have 20. Elite players can also transfer these items to characters on other servers; plebs cannot
    * Elite players get unique gear and can wield the most powerful weapons in the game. Said weapons can also be emailed by the Elite to others of their kind
    * Elite players can board shuttles that transport them quickly to hard-to-reach corners of London
    * Elite players can become officers of guilds and own, enter, or operate player housing and guild buildings; plebs can be members of guilds, but will not be allowed to enter said buildings, or purchase property for themselves
    * Elite players get access to more gametypes; plebs not allowed into servers or areas where those gametypes are operating
    * Elite players will get new content each month, such as new monsters, new gametypes, new items, and so on


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pretty much says "get elite, or don't play at all" biggrin.gif
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9.95 x 4 is roughly equal to RM40 per month... sweat.gif


Haiz... with such difference... they kinda forcing me to be an elite member... well... I'll see how the game is first... before I make my decision...
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We here in Asia might be paying a different price since Infocomm Asia Holdings has the license to run servers in this region and handle all subcriptions.
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That kinda sux.Boo~
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More coverage about the subscription from Bill Roper himself.

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How will it work? Out of the box, you'll have access to the entire single-player game, three character slots, a stash that can hold about twenty items, a soft level cap of about 35-40 (this will be ironed out later), basic voice chat, buddy lists, guild membership, and online co-op play.


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For $9.99 a month, you can subscribe to Elite, which will give you access to ongoing content (more on this in a bit), about twelve or more characters, a larger stash that can be shared between characters, a level cap that increases as content is released, access to a special train that takes you to Elite areas, and the ability to form guilds and choose different gameplay modes (PvP, Hardcore mode, and so on). "Ongoing content" is made up of stuff like new locations, quests, enemies, item drops, player housing, and even character classes. Flagship is estimating that about 40% of the development team will be focused on just creating new content for Elite subscribers.


Read the rest of the inteview here...
Bill Roper on Hellgate: London Elite
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This just suxs.I'll pass this game.

Bill Roper thinks this is another WoW and trying to make Hellgate his cash cow.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 10 2007, 02:55 PM)
This just suxs.I'll pass this game.

Bill Roper thinks this is another WoW and trying to make Hellgate his cash cow.
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I think its important to remember that the game out of the box is pretty complete on its own... Comparable even to any other game out there.

The elite package, for the most part, gives you bigger bonuses (Nothing much really), but the best thing about it is ongoing content... The type of stuff that any MMO worth its salt out there dishes out on a regular basis. That alone should justify the USD10 per month cost.

If this game was announced without any elite package and its features, nobody would bat an eyelid over this. Its extra content, you need to pay for it, its no big deal.
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H@H@ just beat me to it smile.gif. Just to add though, the game as isa welcome beginning for you to try first before stepping into being 'elite'.

Personally though, I can't wait to see how this game does. And if the MP portion of it warrants me to become 'elite', I won't think twice in doing so.
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QUOTE(Koross @ May 10 2007, 03:56 PM)
H@H@ just beat me to it smile.gif. Just to add though, the game as isa welcome beginning for you to try first before stepping into being 'elite'.

Personally though, I can't wait to see how this game does. And if the MP portion of it warrants me to become 'elite', I won't think twice in doing so.
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Yeah, once the game comes out, you can really see if the free multiplayer portion is worth the price of admission or whether its just some over-glorified newbie/tutorial area.

Obviously we're going to get a lot of the "They're holding back content from ppl who paid full price" arguments, but heh... Just wait and see. I'm not writing this off just yet.
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I think its important to remember that the game out of the box is pretty complete on its own... Comparable even to any other game out there.

The elite package, for the most part, gives you bigger bonuses (Nothing much really), but the best thing about it is ongoing content... The type of stuff that any MMO worth its salt out there dishes out on a regular basis. That alone should justify the USD10 per month cost.

If this game was announced without any elite package and its features, nobody would bat an eyelid over this. Its extra content, you need to pay for it, its no big deal.
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I wont mind if i dont get to use the Hive Blade but i do mind if im missing out game modes like Hardcore or new classes and places.

It seems pretty complete out of the box but i'll hold back my comments till the full final list is out.


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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ May 10 2007, 06:32 PM)
I wont mind if i dont get to use the Hive Blade but i do mind if im missing out game modes like Hardcore or new classes and places.

It seems pretty complete out of the box but i'll hold back my comments till the full final list is out.
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Actually 'Elite' items are not powerful or unbalanced items just unique looking ones with different artwork or new items that is balanced with with normal items.

So this basically kills all the rants that say elites get more powerful stuff.

The only thing I'm dissapointed with is the deal with the gamemodes. They should allow everyone to enjoy PvP and Hardcore modes.


On a lighter note, here's a Hellgate comic strip from the guys at Penny Arcade poking fun at the whole subscription issue.

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you mean the free play wont have PvP???

btw, the comic is funny. LOL...
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Is this game playable in offline mode?
Looks superb it'll b wonderful if it can b played offline n online.
So i can play offline to pump up my character and go online 2 PVP.
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it is a single player game like diablo series. and you can take ur character online if you want.
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it is a single player game like diablo series. and you can take ur character online if you want.
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Yes, there is single player and mutilplayer. Multiplayer will be both free and subscription based and use secure servers. Since they will be using secure servers characters in single player cannot be transfered to multiplayer.

The bad news is, PvP and Hardcore modes are exclusive to paid customers only. I hope they change this to include free players but I doubt it will happen. Just like Diablo 2, the singleplayer portion will be playable online cooperatively and this will available to everybody and will be the bulk of the game.

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this game not out yet ?
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Well I'd go elite just for the ability to kick sand on lesser players at the beach.

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Let's see how much gaming experience we'll get out of the box without factoring in the constant monthly updates and stuff.

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i have an idea. we can mass level up in basic mode. when we reach high enough, pay for a particular month, so can PvP ppl. then back to mass leveling. lol... laugh.gif
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I think it's pretty bad you are forced to pay to get the UBER items. Cause think of it, the main reason people play are getting great items. The game lost a LOT of if's attraction to me cause of this subscription model.
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QUOTE(bryan @ May 18 2007, 12:30 PM)
I think it's pretty bad you are forced to pay to get the UBER items. Cause think of it, the main reason people play are getting great items. The game lost a LOT of if's attraction to me cause of this subscription model.
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No, u misunderstand, people who pay do not get uber items. They just get fancy looking stuff. All items(Elite accounts & Normal accounts) are balanced with each other so no one with subscription has the upper hand. That means people who do not pay also can find powerful items that match the items from the subcription account

The only thing Elites account holders get are access to PvP and Hardcore modes, new content such as new areas/monsters/items, live events, more character slots and bigger inventory stash.
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QUOTE(bryan @ May 18 2007, 12:30 PM)
I think it's pretty bad you are forced to pay to get the UBER items. Cause think of it, the main reason people play are getting great items. The game lost a LOT of if's attraction to me cause of this subscription model.
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You could say the same thing about regular MMO expansion packs, which either raise the level cap or add new items, classes or spells which may or may not make these players better than players without the expansions set.

How many WoW players out there are complaining about all the good stuff ppl who buy TBC get? They paid extra money for extra content.

Again, its too early to tell if regular MP should be written off completely. Plus, the game has single player which resembles Diablo... and that alone should justify most of the sticker price.
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Even if the online games are evened...

I doubt we would enjoy playing the games with our lovely Streamyx anyway...
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hope this game doesnt delay like...*cough*..old blizzard style. LOL...
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A spotlight on the Templar faction.

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Within Hellgate's fiction, the Templar are the religious zealots, believing there to be some kind of divine justification behind hitting demons in the face. Continue on to find descriptions of both classes from members of the Flagship team, screens, and two fancy HD videos.


Source: Hellgate: London's Templar Faction

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Looking forward to June 30...
BUt I'm still pissed off with "SCREAM"yx...
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I dun mind coz i dont play online biggrin.gif drool.gif laugh.gif
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since the game server will be hosted here in Asia by infocomm, i do hope connection issues will just be a minor prob..

"character stored on secure server".. does that mean that single player characters cannot be used on multiplayer games? aww.. that means my as well just start with a multiplayer character if you want to pvp.. or else, you have to replay again..
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since the game server will be hosted here in Asia by infocomm, i do hope connection issues will just be a minor prob..

"character stored on secure server".. does that mean that single player characters cannot be used on multiplayer games? aww.. that means my as well just start with a multiplayer character if you want to pvp.. or else, you have to replay again..
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Both Diablos had secure servers and nobody complained. Besides I think it should stop the character hacks and item dupes.
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Both Diablos had secure servers and nobody complained. Besides I think it should stop the character hacks and item dupes.
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Just asking,how does both Diablo's secure server works?
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Just asking,how does both Diablo's secure server works?
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All your Diablo multiplayer characters data; from your characters itself, items you have equiped, to the loot in storage is stored separately in own their servers. Basically, you cannot access the character files because it is not on your local drive. It also means multiplayer characters cannot be used in single player and vice versa. This technically prevents hacks and dupes. Sometime there are accounts that are hacked by cheaters so that is when the mighty hand of Blizzard starts banning cdkeys or delete their accounts.

Titan Quest on the other hand is an example where there is no secure servers for multiplayer. Single player TQ characters can be used online and offline.
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QUOTE(Araes @ May 25 2007, 11:46 PM)
All your Diablo multiplayer characters data; from your characters itself, items you have equiped, to the loot in storage is stored separately in own their servers. Basically, you cannot access the character files because it is not on your local drive. It also means multiplayer characters cannot be used in single player and vice versa. This technically prevents hacks and dupes. Sometime there are accounts that are hacked by cheaters so that is when the mighty hand of Blizzard starts banning cdkeys or delete their accounts.

Titan Quest on the other hand is an example where there is no secure servers for multiplayer. Single player TQ characters can be used online and offline.
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I believe that only applies to Diablo as Diablo 2 had single player characters that could be used in multiplayer (Seemless transition between SP and MP)

This was feasible in Diablo when the online gaming player base wasn't that large.

Anyway, Guild Wars did it (Server side character storing sans monthly subscription fees), so not that big a deal for this. Plus, there doesn't appear to be any persistent world aside from the game lobby (Ala GW as well)
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Well, just waiting for Hellgate: London -
Apparently IAHGames for Singapore is gonna host a Hellgate server there. I'm not sure about the hosting but their company is related to Hanbisoft aka Hellgate London Developer.
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Well, just waiting for Hellgate: London -
Apparently IAHGames for Singapore is gonna host a Hellgate server there. I'm not sure about the hosting but their company is related to Hanbisoft aka Hellgate London Developer.
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When?
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When is the actual release date for Hellgate : London??
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this game is not out yet ?
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The Next Benchmark in Action Role Playing Games will Start Lighting Up PCs this Halloween

Chertsey, UK.- August 6, 2007 - Get ready to hack, slash, and shoot your way through a demon-infested London this Halloween! Electronic Arts Inc. (NASDAQ: ERTS) and NAMCO BANDAI Games America Inc. today announced that Hellgate(tm): London, the premier title from Flagship Studios, will start hitting retail stores in North America on October 31, 2007 and in Europe on November 2, 2007 for the PC. Hellgate: London represents the next leap in the evolution of the action RPG genre, combining the depth and addictive gameplay of traditional RPGs with the visceral action of first-person shooters.

"We wanted to hit the sweet-spot for release in terms of the development schedule and delivering the highest-quality game to our players," said Bill Roper, CEO of Flagship Studios. "Halloween was the perfect fit as it ensures that Hellgate: London will have an appropriate amount of beta testing, while also being an incredibly fun time to unleash the game."

One of the most anticipated PC games and RPGs of the year, Hellgate: London offers infinite re-playability with dynamically generated levels, items, enemies and events. The player creates a heroic character, completes quests, and battles through an innumerable amount of demons to advance through a deep, rich story-driven campaign. A robust, flexible skill and spell system, highly customizable appearances, and a massive variety of randomly generated equipment allow each player to create his or her own unique hero.

While some may prefer to slay demons solo, players will also be able to take the fight online*, teaming up with friends to save London in a secure, client-server environment and playing through the entire story-driven campaign for free. For those players who want to extend their Hellgate: London experience, Flagship is offering an optional subscription service which will give players access to huge amounts of content on an ongoing basis in the form of quests, character classes, demons, items, etc. More details about Hellgate: London's online options are coming soon.

The game has not yet been rated by the ESRB, PEGI or BBFC. Visit www.esrb.org, www.pegionline.eu or www.bbfc.co.uk for updated rating information. For more information about Hellgate: London, log onto www.electronicarts.co.uk or the game's official website at www.hellgatelondon.com. 

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Trailers:
Marksman Trailer - QT
Marksman Trailer - WMV
Engineer Trailer - QT
Engineer Trailer - WMV
Evoker Trailer - QT
Evoker Trailer - WMV
Guardian Trailer - QT
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Blademaster Trailer - QT
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E3 2007 Trailer HD - QT HD
E3 2007 Trailer HD - WMV HD
E3 2007 Trailer - QT Non-HD
E3 2007 Trailer - WMV Non-HD
E3 2007 Szenen Gameplay - QT
E3 2007 Szenen Gameplay - WMV
Cabalist Summoner HD - QT HD
Cabalist Summoner HD - WMV HD
Cabalist Summoner - QT Non-HD
Cabalist Summoner - WMV Non-HD
E3 2007 Demon Slaying Cam Gameplay HD - QT HD
E3 2007 Demon Slaying Cam Gameplay HD - WMV HD
E3 2007 Demon Slaying Cam Gameplay - QT Non-HD
E3 2007 Demon Slaying Cam Gameplay - WMV Non-HD
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Oh finally a release date. It would probably arrive here on the second week of Nov. drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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Yeah man,it's a bout time.Is there any pre-order in Malaysia for us?

Who is distributing this game?
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this games is dx10 right??

thanks
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this games is dx10 right??

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oct 31?? lol.. hellgate on my birthday... Who wants to buy me that as present?? ^.^
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QUOTE(raist86 @ Aug 7 2007, 10:59 PM)
oct 31?? lol.. hellgate on my birthday... Who wants to buy me that as present??  ^.^
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so is hellgates force more on single player or multi player?? like guild wars or wow........ = ="...?
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 7 2007, 03:57 PM)
Yeah man,it's a bout time.Is there any pre-order in Malaysia for us?

Who is distributing this game?
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I'm seriously awaiting some special pre-order pricing/goodies or a limited edition! drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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I'm seriously awaiting some special pre-order pricing/goodies or a limited edition!  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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Same.I have been waiting damn long for this game.

I think im only getting the normal edition only.I need to save more UT3 and a SC2 Collector's Edition.
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they'll have p2p multiplayer where you pay for extra stuff in game such as updates, new contents..

You can still play multiplayer even if you don't want to p2p, but you won't get any content updates and extra stuff. However, the developer did say that both p2p and non p2p will have the same character capabilities, so no super godlike strength for p2p accounts.
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HELLGATE:London Collector's Edition Details Revealed!
  • Special Packaging and Art Design
  • Hellgate: London Game 2 DVDs
  • Bonus Disc containing:
    - "Making of Hellgate: London"
    - Official Game Soundtrack
  • Hellgate: London Map Poster
  • 106 page Dark Horse Graphic Novel
  • Unique in-game pet - Mantawraith

Source: Hellgate: London Collector's Edition Contents Revealed

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QUOTE(Araes @ Aug 9 2007, 02:09 PM)
HELLGATE:London Collector's Edition Details Revealed!

  • Special Packaging and Art Design
  • Hellgate: London Game 2 DVDs
  • Bonus Disc containing:
        - "Making of Hellgate: London"
        - Official Game Soundtrack
  • Hellgate: London Map Poster
  • 106 page Dark Horse Graphic Novel
  • Unique in-game pet - Mantawraith

Source: Hellgate: London Collector's Edition Contents Revealed
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Wow,the content is not bad but i'll pass.
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nice nice biggrin.gif

i'll think i'll preorder it, any idea any shops in KL open for preordering them yet?
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Opened for preordering edy arr??

Wanna get my hands on the Collector's Edition... brows.gif
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 9 2007, 02:13 PM)
Wow,the content is not bad but i'll pass.
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No free month of premium content? C'mon, only diehards will buy this and thus it would entice them further into getting it.

Then again, the diehards would probably be handing out their credit cards the moment the game becomes available. wink.gif
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Aug 10 2007, 12:36 AM)
No free month of premium content? C'mon, only diehards will buy this and thus it would entice them further into getting it.

Then again, the diehards would probably be handing out their credit cards the moment the game becomes available. wink.gif
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Im not a diehard fan, but heck, i'll probably try the premium content for a month or 2 biggrin.gif
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No free month of premium content? C'mon, only diehards will buy this and thus it would entice them further into getting it.

Then again, the diehards would probably be handing out their credit cards the moment the game becomes available. wink.gif
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The content in the collector's edition didnt really caught me,unless it also comes with life time free premium content.
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QUOTE(Araes @ Aug 9 2007, 02:09 PM)
HELLGATE:London Collector's Edition Details Revealed!

  • Special Packaging and Art Design
  • Hellgate: London Game 2 DVDs
  • Bonus Disc containing:
        - "Making of Hellgate: London"
        - Official Game Soundtrack
  • Hellgate: London Map Poster
  • 106 page Dark Horse Graphic Novel
  • Unique in-game pet - Mantawraith

Source: Hellgate: London Collector's Edition Contents Revealed
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Er...I hope this isn't the one I bought recently. Mine's also published by Dark Horse. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 10 2007, 12:51 PM)
The content in the collector's edition didnt really caught me,unless it also comes with life time free premium content.
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Free 'life time' premium content? You must be joking. No company in the right minds would give out free lifetime subcription to collector's edition owners. sweat.gif

But H@H@ is right, I was also hoping for 1 month free elite content like how they do it in other subscription based MMOs. Actually it should be available for both collector's edition and non collector's versions.


QUOTE(heaven @ Aug 14 2007, 12:43 PM)
Although the CE looks good, still I'm not impress by the lack of info regarding Asian subscription costs.
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You can try the Offcial Hellgate Asian site and ask them on the forums.

http://hellgate.iahgames.com/


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wonder if there will be sufficient fast SEA servers for us.
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So any place in KL now allowing pre order?
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Btw, anyone know if they are going to release a demo/beta before the release date ??

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QUOTE(TheNameX @ Aug 20 2007, 11:58 AM)
Btw, anyone know if they are going to release a demo/beta before the release date ??
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And for the SEA version, the keys were given away during a preview event in Singapore recently.

Not sure if its still possible to obtain anymore though
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Well... just hope they can come up with demo before I ordered it smile.gif
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yeah, a demo is needed !!
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I just got a alpha test invitation from a friend =D

Downloading the program as we speak. Seen the previews of it and the game play is really interesting. Nonetheless i dont know whether it'll be capable of dethroning WOW.

One unique thing tho is that its a single player game with a plan for MMORPG.

Asia will be getting its release the same day as the US would, which is on the 31st =D
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Aug 27 2007, 01:55 AM)
Downloading the program as we speak. Seen the previews of it and the game play is really interesting. Nonetheless i dont know whether it'll be capable of dethroning Diablo 2.
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Aug 27 2007, 01:55 AM)
I just got a alpha test invitation from a friend =D

Downloading the program as we speak. Seen the previews of it and the game play is really interesting. Nonetheless i dont know whether it'll be capable of dethroning WOW.

One unique thing tho is that its a single player game with a plan for MMORPG.

Asia will be getting its release the same day as the US would, which is on the 31st =D
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giv us some sc after u test the game haha
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today 31st liao, no news?
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Haha... this October my wallet going flat, first Universe at War then Hellgate...

Btw, any idea when the beta/demo of Hellgate will be available ??
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QUOTE(TheNameX @ Sep 1 2007, 10:16 AM)
Haha... this October my wallet going flat, first Universe at War then Hellgate...

Btw, any idea when the beta/demo of Hellgate will be available ??
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wonder how much would the collector edition be. hahaha...
the idea of bonus pet is cool. but dunno whether some normal pet will out-level it during higher levels.
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is the demo out yet ?
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is the demo out yet ?
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alpha/beta test is out, but you need keys for it sad.gif
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QUOTE(DaIdiot @ Sep 3 2007, 08:35 PM)
alpha/beta test is out, but you need keys for it sad.gif
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No beta yet. It's still in alpha stage.
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Aug 27 2007, 08:08 AM)
fixed. hellgate isn't even a real MMORPG.
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It might be a successor to d2, but its no longer click hack and slash tongue.gif. True it shouldnt be compared to WOW, but it cant really be compared to D2 either. Just hoping that it'll gain some footground in online gaming arena.

QUOTE(vailance @ Aug 28 2007, 03:23 AM)
wah.. can i hav the invitation also?? tongue.gif
giv us some sc after u test the game haha
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Unfortunately i dont have any keys. A friend gave it to me.

I've still yet to complete the download. Connection been sucky >.<

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Sep 1 2007, 10:00 PM)
Same here there are lots of stuff I need to spend on.
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Yeah,my wallet gonna be flat by the end of the year.So many games.

QUOTE(Araes @ Sep 3 2007, 11:18 PM)
No beta yet. It's still in alpha stage.
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Still alpha? doh.gif

Seems like they are really slow and meticulous in making games,just like Blizzard.Hope the final product is damn good.
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Sorry if I was a bit late...

But have they announced the subscription plan for Hellgate in Asia yet...I need to budget badly
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same same.
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QUOTE(radkliler @ Sep 6 2007, 03:45 PM)
Sorry if I was a bit late...

But have they announced the subscription plan for Hellgate in Asia yet...I need to budget badly
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You can try to find out from IAHgames.
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Finally managed to play the alpha. Its really worth looking out for =D. They still have lots to improve, but as a singleplayer game, i think i'll work out find.

The multiplayer aspect might need more improvements tho 0.o
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I want the lifetime subscription sad.gif

But no friends in US to help me preorder cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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News from IAHGames - SG: Minimum System Requirements for Hellgate: London

(Please note that these specifications are subject to change)

OS: Windows XP with SP2 or Windows Vista

Processor: 1 .8GHz or faster (2.4GHz for Vista)

RAM: 1GB or more (2GB for Vista)

Video: DirectX 9.0c/10 compatible device w/ 128MB RAM or better and Pixel Shader 2.0 support; requires NVIDIA GeForce 6200/ATI Radeon 9000 chipset or greater

Audio: DirectX 9.0c compatible device

Disc drive: 8x DVD or faster

Hard drive: 6 GB or more free space

Input: Keyboard and mouse

Internet: Connection required for multiplayer
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Yay...I can play this game at decent settings....yippee...biggrin.gif:P
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QUOTE(radkliler @ Sep 15 2007, 09:18 AM)
Yay...I can play this game at decent settings....yippee...biggrin.gif:P
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Yes lah,my com can play this game.
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i meet that min requirements borderline but with a 6600GT card and still i have to play to full minimum to get good framerates, especially when there are huge mobs and mobs with elemental damage >.<

but then again, im playing at 1280x1024 res which the alpha program does not let me change, so perhaps in future we'll be allowed to change the res smile.gif
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Sep 16 2007, 02:26 AM)
i meet that min requirements borderline but with a 6600GT card and still i have to play to full minimum to get good framerates, especially when there are huge mobs and mobs with elemental damage >.<

but then again, im playing at 1280x1024 res which the alpha program does not let me change, so perhaps in future we'll be allowed to change the res smile.gif
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Can i know whats your system specs?
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YaY!! Closed beta starts tommorrow. I'm gonna miss my alpha characters. Too bad I cannot post screens here for posterity. sweat.gif
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@Areas,

How is the game so far?Is it really nice?
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@Areas,

How is the game so far?Is it really nice?
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@Areas,

Which class did you try?

Man,im looking forward to this game.Hope it comes out on 1st of Nov.
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yeay, 8600 gts can play.
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yeay, 8600 gts can play.
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Come on,even my ancient 6600GT works for this game.Doubt that 8600 wont run this game.The card is still new even the 9-series card is coming.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 16 2007, 04:35 PM)
@Areas,

Which class did you try?

Man,im looking forward to this game.Hope it comes out on 1st of Nov.
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I have a Hunter Marksman, Templar Blademaster, Templar Guardian and a Cabalist Summoner. Haven't try the Hunter Engineer and Cabalist Evoker yet. Will definately try those 2 in the beta. My highest lvl character is the Hunter Marksman, just love the fps style play.
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QUOTE(radkliler @ Sep 15 2007, 09:18 AM)
Yay...I can play this game at decent settings....yippee...biggrin.gif:P
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If these are your specs:

Processor:Intel Core 2 Quad QX6600
Motherboard:Asus Striker Extreme
Memory:2GB Corsair Dominator DDR2 RAM
Graphic Card:Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTX
Other Stuff:Thermatake Big Water SE
Keyboard & Mouse:Microsoft Reclusa Keyboard , Razer Death Adder , Razer eXactmat , Razer Speed Surface

It might be considered close to over kill... lol most of us not even close to your specs.
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Was planning on buying this game, then I heard about the monthly Premium crap.
Turned me off big time. It's no WoW, so it shouldn't have such a pricing scheme?

"BUT THEY'RE GIVING US UPDATES, AND SOMEONE NEEDS TO PAY FOR SERVER FEEZ"
Guild Wars gives free updates too, and they only charge you once for the game. As for the expansions, well I guess you have to buy them. Server fees are a lame way of justifying monthly costs.
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technology for gc is rapidly fast, it could be the 11th series next year...
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QUOTE(Zephro @ Sep 16 2007, 10:53 PM)
Was planning on buying this game, then I heard about the monthly Premium crap.
Turned me off big time. It's no WoW, so it shouldn't have such a pricing scheme?

"BUT THEY'RE GIVING US UPDATES, AND SOMEONE NEEDS TO PAY FOR SERVER FEEZ"
Guild Wars gives free updates too, and they only charge you once for the game. As for the expansions, well I guess you have to buy them. Server fees are a lame way of justifying monthly costs.
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The base game that comes when you buy the game is still free to play in singleplayer and multiplayer. You'll only have to pay for stuff like extra content, extra stash area, the ability to create more than 3 characters.

As for me, I'm not going to rush and subscribe when there is ton of stuff that come with the game when you buy it.

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 16 2007, 02:07 PM)
Can i know whats your system specs?
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Athlon XP 1800+ OCed to 1.81Ghz
1GB Ram 400MHZ
128MB 6600OC OCed to GT speeds

These are the main specs smile.gif
It runs fine under min specs, but gets kinda laggy where there are huge mobs

QUOTE(Araes @ Sep 16 2007, 03:09 PM)
YaY!! Closed beta starts tommorrow. I'm gonna miss my alpha characters. Too bad I cannot post screens here for posterity.  sweat.gif
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Yeah pity. Only managed to tried hunter marksman and templary blademaster. Pity the blademaster still is very unbalanced sad.gif
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Seems like my rig can take this game.
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sounds very promising. how to join the close beta again?
hahaha...fingers itchy already

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Hahah not sure my trusty MX series can handle or not, but for sure it can play FEAR at a very low frame rate.
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Gonna luv this ... i just downloaded the cinematic in HD and its just mind blowin ... saw it a couple times and still cant get bored of it.
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Gonna luv this ... i just downloaded the cinematic in HD and its just mind blowin ... saw it a couple times and still cant get bored of it.
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Can i have the link?How big is the file?
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Can i have the link?How big is the file?
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Its a round 220MB .. and is worth it all the way.

Here's the link http://games.internode.on.net/filelist.php?filedetails=4556
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where to dl the beta??.....just joined the sign in at hellgate webiste !
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QUOTE(commanderz @ Sep 21 2007, 01:51 AM)
where to dl the beta??.....just joined the sign in at hellgate webiste !
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it should be in the website no?
else if not, perhaps u gotta wait until you get the invite smile.gif
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QUOTE(commanderz @ Sep 21 2007, 01:51 AM)
where to dl the beta??.....just joined the sign in at hellgate webiste !
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Yea ... goto the website www.hellgatelondon.com

u cant MISS it smile.gif
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how is the multiplayer experience? good? bad? and how many people can play at the same time? (for the beta)
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it is pretty like mythos
unless you party, when you enter the dungeons, you are alone
you can only see and interact other players in towns (called stations)

anyway, beta version is greatly improved over alpha
more stable (still buggy tho), but loading time and resource usage greatly improved thumbup.gif
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guys, the server lag or not ?
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for me ping ranges around 200-500
but generally its playable =D
and thats the US server
it should be better when the singapore server is launched
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i waited 4 day rdy......still get no invite T_T....
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dunno whether posted here before or not. min requirement for Hellgate

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With kind thanks to the good people of Electronic Arts and Flagship Studios, here are the official and confirmed minimum requirements:

    * OS: Windows XP with SP2 or Windows Vista
    * Processor: 1 .8GHz or faster (2.4GHz for Vista)
    * RAM: 1GB or more (2GB for Vista)
    * Video: DirectX 9.0c/10 compatible device w/ 128MB RAM or better and Pixel Shader 2.0 support; requires NVIDIA GeForce 6200/ATI Radeon 9000 chipset or greater
    * Audio: DirectX 9.0c compatible device
    * Disc drive: 8x DVD or faster
    * Hard drive: 6 GB or more free space
    * Input: Keyboard and mouse
    * Internet: Connection required for multiplayer

To clarify one point, not all of the ATI Radeon 9000 series has Pixel Shader 2.0 support - only the following ones do:

    * Radeon 9500
    * Radeon 9600
    * Radeon 9700
    * Radeon 9800

However, later on today we'll have something more to say on that matter and I'm sure it will please a lot of people! In the meantime, if you want to see just how well your PC stacks up against the above setup, then give the Hellgate: London Game-o-Meter a blast. Not only will it show you the relative performances (and they're not made up figures, look carefully at the graph!) but if you're short in any particular area, then it'll give you some suggestions as to what products you can buy to improve your system.

Please note that the DirectX 10 mode of the game is only available if you have Windows Vista and a DX10-compliant graphics card installed:

    * ATI Radeon HD 2000 series (e.g. 2600, 2900)
    * NVIDIA GeForce 8 series (e.g. 8600, 8800)

In addition to these, you'll also need a faster CPU (2.4GHz instead of 1.8GHz) and more system RAM.


link: http://www.yougamers.com/news/11843_exclus...m_requirements/
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Is the beta multiplayer only?
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Sep 24 2007, 09:31 PM)
it is pretty like mythos
unless you party, when you enter the dungeons, you are alone
you can only see and interact other players in towns (called stations)

anyway, beta version is greatly improved over alpha
more stable (still buggy tho), but loading time and resource usage greatly improved thumbup.gif
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hmmm...so cant KS? and cant see other ppl killing the enemy? like MU online. where u can see others hunting.

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QUOTE(Kuroro @ Sep 27 2007, 11:58 AM)
Is the beta multiplayer only?
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yup multiplayer only

QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Sep 27 2007, 03:47 PM)
hmmm...so cant KS? and cant see other ppl killing the enemy? like MU online. where u can see others hunting.
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at the moment no pvp
and no u cant see player fighting unless they are in ur party
not sure in the future tho

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aw...then it is more like guild wars. i was hoping for something like D2.
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A lot of previews reveals tons of stuff in Hellgate and Beta and some with spoilers so read at your own risk. sweat.gif

Hellgate: London Exclusive Hands-On - The Engineer Class and High-Level Quests - Spoilers!

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Hellgate: London Updated Q&A - Quests and Quest Design - Spoilers!

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Hellgate: London Updated Hands-On - The Marksman Class and the Multiplayer Beta

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Hellgate: London Tube Tour, Part One

Hellgate: London Tube Tour Part Two

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Hellgate: London -- The Big Bad Bosses - Spoilers!
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Sep 24 2007, 09:31 PM)
it is pretty like mythos
unless you party, when you enter the dungeons, you are alone
you can only see and interact other players in towns (called stations)

anyway, beta version is greatly improved over alpha
more stable (still buggy tho), but loading time and resource usage greatly improved thumbup.gif
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like that one ar..

i prefer it to be like any other RPG

liddat means no diffrent playing alone or online..
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QUOTE(marmite @ Oct 1 2007, 08:48 PM)
like that one ar..

i prefer it to be like any other RPG

liddat means no diffrent playing alone or online..
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well there is partying and trading smile.gif

the purpose of a individual world for each person is to solve the problem of having not enough mobs for grinding
so spawning a world for each character ensures that each character has enough monsters to kill
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Wow I'm having a hard time choosing to buy this or Tabula Rasa. Or totally flattening my wallet. Anyone else with this dilemma? tongue.gif

Hellgate's graphics interest me a bit more though.
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i was hoping it will be something like open MMORPG, where i can show off my super tweaked weapons to other non-parties while slashing the AI enemies. lol...
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=.=" Almost the same like GW isn't it.

I mean the gameplay where you are alone during dungeon if you're not in the party.
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so is this game force more on single player??
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force? u mean focus? hahaha....you are not forced to play the game.
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no more showing off killing high hp enemies with 1 hit ... hope it is only on beta version
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Urghhh!! 27 more days to go before release!!! Seems real nice in all the pics and vids.
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hmm cant wait either......hopefully this game wun tax my pc.

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I want the CE...

any malaysian game sites open for Pre-Order yet?!
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ya~~~ where can i make pre-order for this game? should be cheaper rite?
i put very high expectation for this game. brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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When are Software Boutique and pcgame.com.my going to start taking pre-orders for this kickarse game?

IAH Games is already offering pre-order here with some sweet dye kits! drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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When are Software Boutique and pcgame.com.my going to start taking pre-orders for this kickarse game?

IAH Games is already offering pre-order here with some sweet dye kits!  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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Ha, i just wanted to post this. sweat.gif

I would suggest pre-ordering from IAH but first make sure that you really want it because there will be no cancellations. This pre-order is open to all Asean customers and is open from Oct 4 2007 to 25 Oct 2007.

If you want to play in US servers I suggest you get the US version as SEA version might not be able to play on US servers. Its because they use a different registration keys. US version will allow you to play on all servers but elite subscription rates are tied the region you play in.
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QUOTE(Araes @ Oct 5 2007, 02:47 PM)
Ha, i just wanted to post this.  sweat.gif

I would suggest pre-ordering from IAH but first make sure that you really want it because there will be no cancellations. This pre-order is open to all Asean customers and is open from  Oct 4 2007 to 25 Oct 2007.

If you want to play in US servers I suggest you get the US version as SEA version might not be able to play on US servers. Its because they use a different registration keys. US version will allow you to play on all servers but elite subscription rates are tied the region you play in.
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I'll probably wait until they announce the SEA subscription rates before choosing between US and SEA. It's USD10 a month if I choose the US region and I wanna see how the SEA rate stacks up. Hopefully it would be cheaper. tongue.gif
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damnnn the dye kits for SEA are UGLY!!

sigh im so contemplating on whether to get it or not sad.gif

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damnnn the dye kits for SEA are UGLY!!

sigh im so contemplating on whether to get it or not sad.gif
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I think Shadow Tiger looks cool. A lot people say the US pre-order dye kits are not that good compared to SEA, maybe the Wasp. smile.gif Still not not seen the Korean version.

Actually we should be thankful because gamers in Europe/UK got shafted by EA/Namco, they don't have CE and there is no exclusive dye kits in the UK.

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I asked TSB staff yesterday , they are getting the SEA version from IAHGames , but there are still some issue need to be finalized 1st..
They hope to start taking pre-orders after Raya...
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Ha, i just wanted to post this.  sweat.gif

I would suggest pre-ordering from IAH but first make sure that you really want it because there will be no cancellations. This pre-order is open to all Asean customers and is open from  Oct 4 2007 to 25 Oct 2007.

If you want to play in US servers I suggest you get the US version as SEA version might not be able to play on US servers. Its because they use a different registration keys. US version will allow you to play on all servers but elite subscription rates are tied the region you play in.
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I rather get the US version.If SEA version only can play on SEA server,then,there isnt much a point to get it.

QUOTE(YooNJuN @ Oct 6 2007, 11:25 AM)
I asked TSB staff yesterday , they are getting the SEA version from IAHGames , but there are still some issue need to be finalized 1st..
They hope to start taking pre-orders after Raya...
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Do they have US version?If not,i'll get it in Aus next year.I dont want a SEA version.
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I rather get the US version.If SEA version only can play on SEA server,then,there isnt much a point to get it.
Do they have US version?If not,i'll get it in Aus next year.I dont want a SEA version.
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If ur getting the US version, better get it outside of Aus as the games there have imba price, it is cheaper to ship it here than to buy at a shop in Aus, redeye84 told me so and his in Aus.
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i salute u guys spirit to buy the game. how much is it anyway ?
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If ur getting the US version, better get it outside of Aus as the games there have imba price, it is cheaper to ship it here than to buy at a shop in Aus, redeye84 told me so and his in Aus.
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I know,but the problem is,i dont have a credit card to order online.With the same amount of money to buy a copy of Hellgate in Aus,you can buy 2-3 of the same game in Malaysia.

I'll only buy there if i really cant find a US copy here.
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http://hellgate.iahgames.com/preorder/
well the preorder from iah games are out, and with the extras available until 21st oct
thing is, there's also shipping fees in usd, and if u get the collectors edition, it comes to total of rm235 or so....
tat's kinda expansive even by my standard, our local distro like pcgamer or gamerz still dun have the preorder yet, and i wonder if we will get the same stuffs
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Hi guys, our community is starting an outpost for Hellgate: London, SEA server. If you're looking for a social community, and you are a non-hardcore gamer that wants to lead a balanced life, do check us out: www.celestialorder.net

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QUOTE(Araes @ Oct 6 2007, 10:53 AM)
Actually we should be thankful because gamers in Europe/UK got shafted by EA/Namco, they don't have CE and there is no exclusive dye kits in the UK.
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Which is ironic seeing that the game is set in London.

QUOTE(YooNJuN @ Oct 6 2007, 11:25 AM)
I asked TSB staff yesterday , they are getting the SEA version from IAHGames , but there are still some issue need to be finalized 1st..
They hope to start taking pre-orders after Raya...
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Oh yeah. Now this is what I want to hear! icon_idea.gif

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so is tis game forces more on single player???@@
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I asked TSB staff yesterday , they are getting the SEA version from IAHGames , but there are still some issue need to be finalized 1st..
They hope to start taking pre-orders after Raya...
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Cheers to TSB. Hopefully they can get the deal done for us to get the game locally. Do keep us updated about the deal pls.

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so is tis game forces more on single player???@@
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there should be a solid single player campaign storyline, but for the best gaming experience i would have to say it's the multi player from the previews given so far
just google around and read for urself
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hope the original game at TSB have a good prices....if not.....(private) =.="
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well hopefully they will charge the same amount as iahgames price after conversion, minus the extra delivery charge
i dun mind paying almost 200 for the collector edition if the package are the same
pirated version for this will not give u the multiplayer experience
besides, if i remember correctly original gamers get to multiplay for free, while there will be another package for ppl willing to pay for special online stuffs in the online multiplayer

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Hey everyone,

I'd like to inform you of some issues before you actually consider buying HGL from IAH. IAH has not answered ALL (Not an exaggeration) their PreOrder questions. Customers wanting to buy are like waiting for answers, while customers that did buy are currently feeling the pain - also, no refunds for PreOrders.

Issues include very high shipping charges that needs to be justified, these high shipping charges are charged PER BOX - not per order, long arrival dates that aren't justified, a subscription scheme that isn't announce - this is rumoured to be a pain for non-elites, and many other things that needs clarification.

Threads:
The Lack of Communication is Disturbing
Cancellation of Order
PreOrder Problems
IAH Launches PreOrder Site

I do sincerely wish to have better things to say about IAH, however IAH Hellgate: London now ranks as one of the worst PreOrder experience in South East Asia. If a consumer keeps quiet, then the company already has won a monopoly.

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Hey everyone,

I'd like to inform you of some issues before you actually consider buying HGL from IAH. IAH has not answered ALL (Not an exaggeration) their PreOrder questions. Customers wanting to buy are like waiting for answers, while customers that did buy are currently feeling the pain - also, no refunds for PreOrders.

Issues include very high shipping charges that needs to be justified, these high shipping charges are charged PER BOX - not per order, long arrival dates that aren't justified, a subscription scheme that isn't announce - this is rumoured to be a pain for non-elites, and many other things that needs clarification.

Threads:
The Lack of Communication is Disturbing
Cancellation of Order
PreOrder Problems
IAH Launches PreOrder Site

I do sincerely wish to have better things to say about IAH, however IAH Hellgate: London now ranks as one of the worst PreOrder experience in South East Asia. If a consumer keeps quiet, then the company already has won a monopoly.
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Personally, I would hate to think that what you say could be correct. Nevertheless, all these IAH problems, will not stop me from supporting Hellgate London, as it is the game I wanted to play and support. So I would like to get opinions or suggestions from other Hellgate London fans what they would do to support the game itself, if not wanting to involve IAH??

My opinion would be getting the US version of the game off ebay or something like that?

PS: BTW, I heard that the buyers of the US version, can choose any server they want to play on - U.S / Europe / Asia, can anybody verify that plz?

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US version can only be played on UK/US, not Asia. Also, do note that the CE edition for US is running very low.
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18 days....
even snail mail dun take tat long from malaysia to sing....
with the big amount we are paying for the delivery charge, i would have expected them to courier the game for us on the same day
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Have anybody already planned on buying the us version of hellgate london?
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oh no this game has continental lock, is this mean that we cannot play with u.s peeps at all? hey come on, i dont mind the latency but its like the sea version peeps being locked in a cage. darn this is not good.
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Have anybody already planned on buying the us version of hellgate london?
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Yeah,i want to get the US version since the IAH Games seem kinda sux.Now,it's either US version of hellgate or UT3.Definitely not getting the SEA version.I have no faith in IAH Games.
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I really want to play this game..... icon_question.gif

But with the problems surrounding the company who actually promotes the game here really is a pain. Do i really have to resolve buying from US. cry.gif

I hope TSB could actually get us the US version. Its gonna costs us RM140 anyway.

But wait, Play-Asia is selling the US version with free shipping!!! rclxms.gif

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Hellgate: London Gone Gold! Single Player Demo coming tomorrow!

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HELLGATE(tm): LONDON GOES GOLD, DEMO COMING THIS WEEK

The creators of Diablo are cracking open the Hellgate before Halloween

San Francisco, CA (October 16, 2007) - Demons of London beware! Your reign of terror is officially coming to an end! Electronic Arts, Namco Bandai Games, and Flagship Studios are excited to announce that Hellgate(tm): London has gone to gold master and will be available exclusively for the PC on October 31st in North America.

"This has been an amazing journey for us and we couldn't be more proud of what we've accomplished," said Flagship Studios CEO, Bill Roper. "We're anxious to get Hellgate: London into gamers' hands and we can't wait to play right along with them."

And for gamers who can't wait until Halloween to get their Demon-slaying on, Flagship Studios is releasing a singleplayer demo this Thursday, October 18th.

The singleplayer demo represents just a small taste of the Hellgate: London experience. Gamers can choose from two of the game's six character classes: the Blademaster, a master of swordplay and action-packed melee combat, or the Marksman, a cool, calculating, long-range specialist.

In the demo, these heroes are able to battle through a small handful of storyline and side quests as they adventure through the streets and tunnels around London's Holborn Station.

Hellgate: London combines the depth of role-playing games and the action of first-person shooter titles, while offering infinite playability with dynamically generated levels, items, enemies, and events. Whether online or off, a player creates a heroic character, completes quests, and battles through innumerable hordes of demons to advance through experience levels and branching skill paths. A robust, flexible skill and spell system, highly customizable appearances, and a massive variety of randomly generated equipment allow players to create their own unique hero.

Hellgate Halloween is fast approaching! Stay tuned for more news at: www.hellgatelondon.com.

About Flagship Studios

Flagship Studios is a creator of innovative entertainment software, designing games that focus on ease of play, replayability, and fun. The studio was formed in 2003 by former executives and developers from Blizzard North(R) and represents the creators of the worldwide, best-selling Diablo(R) franchise. With members that are renowned within the gaming industry, Flagship Studios and Flagship Seattle embody a team that has worked together for over a decade and have numerous #1-selling games and multiple Game of the Year awards to their credit. For more information about Flagship Studios visit: www.flagshipstudios.com


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Hi guys, I just went to their official web site for a sneak peak. Its a very promosing game but I cant seem to find any information on the Spec requirement to run this game

Can anyone enlighten me on this? thanks
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Try this game-o-meter from http://yougamers.com

http://www.yougamers.com/gameometer/10203/

You'll know roughly on how your PC will fare on the game .
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QUOTE(Araes @ Oct 18 2007, 10:22 AM)
Hellgate: London Gone Gold! Single Player Demo coming tomorrow!
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HELLGATE(tm): LONDON GOES GOLD, DEMO COMING THIS WEEK

The creators of Diablo are cracking open the Hellgate before Halloween

San Francisco, CA (October 16, 2007) - Demons of London beware! Your reign of terror is officially coming to an end! Electronic Arts, Namco Bandai Games, and Flagship Studios are excited to announce that Hellgate(tm): London has gone to gold master and will be available exclusively for the PC on October 31st in North America.

"This has been an amazing journey for us and we couldn't be more proud of what we've accomplished," said Flagship Studios CEO, Bill Roper. "We're anxious to get Hellgate: London into gamers' hands and we can't wait to play right along with them."

And for gamers who can't wait until Halloween to get their Demon-slaying on, Flagship Studios is releasing a singleplayer demo this Thursday, October 18th.

The singleplayer demo represents just a small taste of the Hellgate: London experience. Gamers can choose from two of the game's six character classes: the Blademaster, a master of swordplay and action-packed melee combat, or the Marksman, a cool, calculating, long-range specialist.

In the demo, these heroes are able to battle through a small handful of storyline and side quests as they adventure through the streets and tunnels around London's Holborn Station.

Hellgate: London combines the depth of role-playing games and the action of first-person shooter titles, while offering infinite playability with dynamically generated levels, items, enemies, and events. Whether online or off, a player creates a heroic character, completes quests, and battles through innumerable hordes of demons to advance through experience levels and branching skill paths. A robust, flexible skill and spell system, highly customizable appearances, and a massive variety of randomly generated equipment allow players to create their own unique hero.

Hellgate Halloween is fast approaching! Stay tuned for more news at: www.hellgatelondon.com.

About Flagship Studios

Flagship Studios is a creator of innovative entertainment software, designing games that focus on ease of play, replayability, and fun. The studio was formed in 2003 by former executives and developers from Blizzard North(R) and represents the creators of the worldwide, best-selling Diablo(R) franchise. With members that are renowned within the gaming industry, Flagship Studios and Flagship Seattle embody a team that has worked together for over a decade and have numerous #1-selling games and multiple Game of the Year awards to their credit. For more information about Flagship Studios visit: www.flagshipstudios.com

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I dont care where is the demo gonna be available as long as it's fast,it's resumable and the file is not ridiculously big.
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are you guys gonna preorder the game from tsb.com.my?
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it would be nice if someone post a linky to it after it is out happy.gif

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cant wait!!!...wat time the demo out here?......@@...
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http://www.gamedaily.com/games/hellgate-lo...demo/4251/7197/

All right peeps, GO DOWNLOAD NOW!!!!! I COMMAND IT!!!! brows.gif
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I foresee the link to be hammered until it shows up on other sites. sweat.gif Right now the demo is exclusive to Gamedaily for the next 24hrs. Hopefully it shows up on torrent before that.
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60kb per sec cry.gifcry.gifcry.gif just hope it wont dc

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ahh, around 100 kb/s.. now let's hope it wont dc!
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Turn off bittorent programs for extra connectivity.
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60 kb per sec!! dc also no need scare ~.~..just 3% NOW =.=

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1.45Gb ? OMG!!!
http://gamedaily.newaol.com/pub/Hellgate_London_Demo.exe

Why can't I download using download manager?

This game is NOT on my games-to-die-for list... but if the demo can pull something special, I'll get it. If not... I'll most likely go to the mall (u know what I mean)


Added on October 19, 2007, 2:44 amWait... it's working now. I had no more disk space left on partition 1, that's why.

Speed I'm getting : 115kbps

Imagine those guys in US or dudes that use 8mbps connections, from the comments on the website, they're downloading at 450kbps !!!

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QUOTE(Games For Windows @ Oct 19 2007, 02:38 AM)
1.45Gb ? OMG!!!
http://gamedaily.newaol.com/pub/Hellgate_London_Demo.exe

Why can't I download using download manager?

This game is NOT on my games-to-die-for list... but if the demo can pull something special, I'll get it. If not... I'll most likely go to the mall (u know what I mean)


Added on October 19, 2007, 2:44 amWait... it's working now. I had no more disk space left on partition 1, that's why.

Speed I'm getting : 115kbps

Imagine those guys in US or dudes that use 8mbps connections, from the comments on the website, they're downloading at 450kbps !!!
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current speed has dropped to 100kbps. still dropping.
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i drop to 32kb need 1 more day
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QUOTE(choyster @ Oct 19 2007, 03:24 AM)
i drop to 32kb need 1 more day
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Really? Mine rarely goes below 100kbps, now steady at 120kbps, 2 hours only to go. Try http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/
It breaks the download into 20 pieces and is absolutely fast! Works for any download. That is how I download most of my stuff.
Don't use anything else. This thing works.

U know wat, cancel (or pause) that download. Download this first. http://downloads.sourceforge.net/freedownload/fdminst.exe
Then use this to download it. You don't need 1 more day. You can play in like 5 hours.

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Added on October 19, 2007, 7:48 amPlayed part of the demo.
What I think?

Gameplay - 18/20 (Solid while it lasts)
Graphics - 15/20 (Bit of a letdown actually, perhaps maybe I am using DX9, but seriously, not revolutionary)
Sounds - 16/20 (Fine zombie sounds, nothing special)
Controls - 17/20 (Easily customisable and mapped out well)
Replay value - 14/20 (Do I want to play the game again? Err...)

Total : 80%

Pros - Solid RPG gameplay, RPG elements present, NPCs help you a lot
Cons - Graphics is a bit of a letdown (not too sure if DX10 can help), nothing revolutionary about the game overall

FINAL VERDICT of the DEMO :::

If you're an RPG fan, you should play this game. But players like me, FPS gamers, should pretty much keep that money away. Flagship Studios have done a great job of re-inventing London in Zombie infested look, but the dull graphics (again, don't get me wrong) and the not-so special sound effects, is a bit of a letdown. To me, this game will appeal to RPG fans, and RPG fans only. Enjoy the demo.
Another mention, Diablo fans would also like this game. I want to hear from you guys. Keep those posts coming !!!



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3.2Ghz dual-core processor, 2Gb memory, 7800 GTX, X-Fi XtremeMusic, 5.1 surround speakers, Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit

Game settings: 1280x768, maximum settings, no V-sync, medium anti-aliasing

Game advisor:::
This game seems to stutter when in wide open areas. In underground tunnels, it is really smooth. When there are many enemies, the gameplay remains but slow-downs are apparent. It gets worse if there are lots of enemies, lots of action, and in wide open areas. Perhaps an 8800 GTS can do justice. Or a feasible processor.

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Is it the demo will be done by all detail of the game or less detail on demo? Because i feel that 7900gs play on default setting quite ok ok.
I feel like play Starwar saber attack game like that. But i havn't really enjoy yet ( not so free now biggrin.gif )
Try it later again.
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who isn't a fan of diablo smile.gif let's hope it's as good as diablo
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Demo links:

3D Downloads
ActionTrip
AusGamers
FanGaming
FileFront
Fileplanet
FileShack
Fragland
Gamer's Hell
HGLondon.net - Torrent
Internode Games Network
PixelRage

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thanks for the info, hmm....heard some bad optimization on this demo

anyone else got crappy framerates on high end rigs?

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cant seem to install it
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I'm a bit dissapointed actually. Before the demo I was very excited about HG:L, but after playing it for a few minutes, it was like "Is this all ?"
There's just something missing about the game. Lack of excitement or urgency probably.

Anyhoo, anyone having translucent characters/monsters ? Vista 32-bit, 8800GTX & 163.75 drivers.
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SilverCrimz is it u intall ( extracting file ) the file and click cancle to stop it?
Actually after you download the file ( just 1 exe file only ) then click it install will extract the file out ( althought is look like hang at there didn't move but it still extracting ) after that will automatic run installation.

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Ok... Hellgate has adware.

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Now I know why that guy was pissed.

Unsurprisingly, it looks like the newly released Hellgate: London demo contains some in-game advertisement. Disgruntled community members are voicing their opinions to Voodoo Extreme's Andrew Burns:

Several angry emails have entered my inbox because people installing the newly released Hellgate: London demo have noticed that the game includes adware, advertising that is integrated into software. Here's the pertinent section of the license you have to agree to abide by once Hellgate is installed onto your system:

    The Software incorporates technology of Massive Incorporated ("Massive") that enables in-game advertising, and the display of other similar in-game objects, which are uploaded temporarily to your personal computer or game console and replaced during online game play. As part of this process, Massive may collect your Internet protocol address and other basic anonymous information, and will use this information for the general purposes of transmitting and measuring in-game advertising. Massive does not store or use any of this information for the purpose of discovering your personal identity. For additional details regarding Massive's in-game advertising practices, and to understand your options with respect to in-game advertising and data collection, please see Massive's privacy policy. The trademarks and copyrighted material contained in all in-game advertising are the property of the respective owners. Portions of this product are (C) 2007 Massive Incorporated. All rights reserved.

For the time being the only adverts are posters on walls in certain areas, though with the adware fully integrated into the game you could soon be beating back Zombie Summoners with the Sword of Soft Drinks, 6-15 Coke splash damage per successful hit. Or perhaps the Gun of Crashing, Vista Edition, as Massive are owned by Microsoft.

Get over it folks; in-game advertisement is the new trend. Demos, betas, servers, bandwidth, etc. aren't magically free. Besides, if it doesn't distract from enjoying the game, what is the harm?

Ten years from now, when every retail game on the market has some form of in-game advertisement, we'll all be looking back on this and laughing. I can think of more constructive ways to b**** about a game: *cough* subscription model *cough*


Source: http://news.filefront.com/hellgate-london-...d-with-ad-ware/
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ Oct 19 2007, 02:15 PM)
SilverCrimz  is it u intall ( extracting file ) the file and click cancle to stop it?
Actually after you download the file ( just 1 exe file only ) then click it install will extract the file out ( althought is look like hang at there didn't move but it still extracting ) after that will automatic run installation.
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I managed to fix it by re-extracting the setup files again and this time it came with the said error file. tongue.gif

Just tried the demo and i say, all the hype that surrounded the game kind of gone to waste lol
theres nothing groundbreaking from the game. Though i admit some aspects are quite amusing but it did not last long.
After playing the demo, im still contemplating whether to do the pre-order though the pricing is abit high for me ~_~

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Oct 19 2007, 02:47 PM)
Rofl, you know I was pretty pissed of at ads in games when it was apparent ETQW was going to have them(by the same company no less 'Massive'). Then after playing in Singapore ETQW server I noticed that the there were no ads at all. Apparently, it only applies to the west namely North America since the ads are for products that aren't available here. I've seen a ETQW screenshot from a guy in US that had a Gillete ad in on of the billboards in game. sweat.gif

So I wouldn't worry to much about it.

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QUOTE(Araes @ Oct 19 2007, 03:02 PM)
Rofl, you know I was pretty pissed of at ads in games when it was apparent ETQW was going to have them(by the same company no less 'Massive'). Then after playing in Singapore ETQW server I noticed that the there were no ads at all. Apparently, it only applies to the west namely North America since the ads are for products that aren't available here. I've seen a ETQW screenshot from a guy in US that had a Gillete ad in on of the billboards in game. sweat.gif

So I wouldn't worry to much about it.
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NFSC had adware and i didnt do much of it.
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awww, need to till sunday only has the chance to try this demo.
is the demo really tat bad aside from the adware?
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wtf?? the demo no ending 1???? i done every quest now no way to go sleep.gif
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Ya same to me, just stuck on Demon Street there nothing to do XD.
Adware ?? But i didn't feel something happen on it, just play the demo without any problem. Oh yea 1 time my game hang when i use the wire gun catch the small boss which produce alot gas worm that 1.... after catch hang at there...
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graphics and gameplay is not that bad actually.....dunno why some people are bashing this game like there's no tomorrow....too much hype maybe? happy.gif

pretty smooth overall, only lags a bit outside for me
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= =....the game it feel like....little unfinish....and buggyy.....the shooting look suck also.....haih....abit disappoint now .....
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Waiting a whole day for download to finish~ brows.gif

Install it eagerly~ rclxm9.gif

and........... mellow.gif

disappointment in the end.... cry.gif

I feel the swinging of the sword are too much awkward, and walking animation didn't look smooth.

And I can swing at the barrel a few feet away and still the barrel explode.

My PC can handle the game smooth at 1280x1024~ and graphics is ok~ don't have any complaint about it.

Just hope the full version of the game are fully polished.
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QUOTE(RevolutionWorks @ Oct 19 2007, 06:06 PM)

I feel the swinging of the sword are too much awkward, and walking animation didn't look smooth.

And I can swing at the barrel a few feet away and still the barrel explode.
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Tried it, Played it, No Adware.......... but somewhat empty. shakehead.gif
I pray that the retail version is not like this. cry.gif Otherwise we will have to make do with future patches. The FPS is somewhat .............well.............bad. I had more fun with the Jericho demo.

I'll give it a chance seeing that we haven't really got to the point that we start killing things by the hundreds yet.

Otherwise, i'm just sticking with Tabula Rasa. brows.gif

Qoute en Quote by Stewie Griffin. "What is this............there's something wrong with the game................i don't like change......"

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QUOTE(shadowrem @ Oct 19 2007, 05:30 PM)
graphics and gameplay is not that bad actually.....dunno why some people are bashing this game like there's no tomorrow....too much hype maybe? happy.gif

pretty smooth overall, only lags a bit outside for me
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Hellgate: London Grim Outlook [Ure "Vader" Paul]
03:00 am EDT @ October 19th, 2007

Pessimism is mounting after Flagship Studios released the demo for their long-in-the-making action RPG, Hellgate: London. Complaints range from "underwhelming gameplay" to "outdated graphics." This is bad news indeed, since there are very few RPG releases to look forward to this season.

Other concerns about the game include adware -- advertising that is integrated into software -- to which users have to agree to upon installing the game. The demo consists of adverts in the form of posters and such, whereas the final game is to feature fully integrated adware.





Wow, I thought my DX9 GPU was causing the not-so-good graphics. I was right all along. Seriously, what a dissapointing game... I expected SO MUCH MORE !!!
OMG... the anticipation, the hype... the graphics screenshots from magazines and all showed a different picture....








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hmmm....demo getting some very lukewarm response...wonder whether flagship studio should b worried..nvm just wait for full version to come out.
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These DX10 screenshots from the beta look alot better than the one from the demo.

http://ve3d.ign.com/images/game/737992/PC/Hellgate-London
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QUOTE(Araes @ Oct 19 2007, 10:52 PM)
These DX10 screenshots from the beta look alot better than the one from the demo.

http://ve3d.ign.com/images/game/737992/PC/Hellgate-London
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So, DX9 gamers = bad graphics experience
DX10 gamers = great graphics experience

From the screenshots, yes, they are WAY better than the demo. So, has anyone tried out the game demo in DX10?
Or does it even support DX10?


The purpose of a game demo is to show the full version's potential, or at least, try to get gamers attention.

A user from Voodoo Extreme quotes after seeing the above DX10 pictures (from the link)
"Not impressed at all with these screenshots
Are they supposed to be with DX10 ??
Is that what DX10 only can do ?
I have seen games with better graphics from that and with just using DX9
I guess i am not missing anything significant for not having Vista
I will still use XP for this game"


LYN Hellgate fans- please try it using DX10

And all hope is not lost,
PC Gamer US gave this game 89% and gave NO Editor's Choice award
According to wiki

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Meh, just tried the demo.

After 30mins of gameplay, i got a very nice headache. lol
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I hope Flagship isn't really going to tell us that this is really what we are getting in the end. cry.gif DX9 or 10, that really should'nt be the issue.
Many games have run and looked good without the DX10 support. The gameplay was somewhat stail and the FPS reminds me of something i played 8 years ago. shakehead.gif
If Hellgate London don't do well, it game over for Flagship. All the hype and high expectations...........NO!!!!!!!!!

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Hehe i still continue play the demo, now lvl 5 with dual weapon chop chop there. biggrin.gif
Aiya personal feel, the game not nice to play will less of fun althought the graphic is nice. Because iI'm playing game not watching CG biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(meetxj9 @ Oct 20 2007, 12:22 AM)
I hope Flagship isn't really going to tell us that this is really what we are getting in the end. cry.gif  DX9 or 10, that really should'nt be the issue.
Many games have run and looked good without the DX10 support. The gameplay was somewhat stail and the FPS reminds me of something i played 8 years ago. shakehead.gif
If Hellgate London don't do well, it game over for Flagship. All the hype and high expectations...........NO!!!!!!!!!
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This could be the "most-hyped-game that turns out to be the ultimate disaster"

It took me 3 seconds to realize the graphics aren't good. At the character creation screen, I was like "Is this the highest model detail? Am I missing something?"

Also, the gameplay is fun, but soon I realized how other great RPGs are.

Seriously, to compare Hellgate London Demo to other RPG gates, this game is totally out of luck.







They should have just done Diablo III.


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Hehe i still continue play the demo, now lvl 5 with dual weapon chop chop there. biggrin.gif
Aiya personal feel, the game not nice to play will less of fun althought the graphic is nice. Because iI'm playing game not watching CG biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Games For Windows @ Oct 20 2007, 12:35 AM)
This could be the "most-hyped-game that turns out to be the ultimate disaster"

It took me 3 seconds to realize the graphics aren't good. At the character creation screen, I was like "Is this the highest model detail? Am I missing something?"

Also, the gameplay is fun, but soon I realized how other great RPGs are.

Seriously, to compare Hellgate London Demo to other RPG gates, this game is totally out of luck.
They should have just done Diablo III.


Added on October 20, 2007, 12:35 am

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Well to be fair graphics dont really make a game. I think this year we have been spoilt by all the next gen buzz words and the Crysis's, COD4s or WiCs. And the Flagship guys never pitched it as next generation graphics and made it compatible with really old systems. They positioned it as easy to pick up and hard to let go like Diablo

But i felt like it was somehow underwhelming. It felt like the world felt flat and liveless...yes the demons are cool but the NPC's feel exactly like the Diablo NPC's but this is year 2007 and games like Oblivion and even MMO's have made NPC's more intereactive and more lively even. Even if the world looks beautiful...it all feels so liveless...

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cry.gif Unless ofcourse the demo is a beta version release. If so i would be somewhat relieved. Cause this can't possibly be THE game that we expected. Due to this, i will refirm myself from buying it yet until i read a review or if my friends bought it first.
But if this be true, i really feel sorry for those who pre-ordered the Collectors Edition. cry.gif I don't want this game to be another Grenado Espada!!!!!

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Initially there were so much hype about this game and from the screens and intro movie the game look so promising. Me and my friend have been waiting the release of this game and just to find out that the graphics are too dated which very much differs from the screenshots sweat.gif

Not only that, as someone mentioned you could actually swing and break a barrel which basically the edge of the sword basically didn't even touch the barrel. I have not try the demo (i don't usually try demo though) and as much as i've heard the rants from various forumers and sources, and with my own eye the screenshots posted by forumers, i must say i'm kinda shocked and disappointed. I don't really have any hope of this game anymore.

UNLESS... Flagship actually releases the demo which is not beta but a VERY earlier version during the initial phase of development of the game. But i highly doubt it.

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Im also a bit disappointed after trying the demo...

Anyway does anyone have finish this demo?

Im still stuck finding this Lann guy...
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Im also a bit disappointed after trying the demo...

Anyway does anyone have finish this demo?

Im still stuck finding this Lann guy...
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QUOTE(Games For Windows @ Oct 20 2007, 01:32 AM)
Heard the demo never ends. Or perhaps we simply hit the Quit button.
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Well there is 1 thing that i noticed....

I dont know what trigger it, but the convenant map(the one to find this Lann guy) changed twice. But I still cant find this dude doh.gif .


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(sighs)...

OK. Lets see what is wrong. Lets see.

This is the spiritual successor to Diablo II.
Easy to pick up and hard to let go you say?
It's easy to pick up and so easy to let go.

Gameplay :::
To be fair, its dated. Its fun, swinging your sword at zombies. But what the heck. This is the year 2007. I did find it a little convincing that this game 'could' survive those critics like me by having a fun gameplay. But unfortunately, other underwhelming features pop-up at first glance... sad.gif

Graphics :::
I hate those who say "graphics isn't everything. what is important is blah blah blah...". Hello? This is the year 2007. We have the GeForce 8 GPUs clocking in at ridiculous speeds. OK, so what? Is graphics everything? No. But yeah, it DOES MATTER. Who the heck wants to play a game that has graphics that is ABSOLUTELY DILUTED + DULL + FLAT ?? I found almost no visual elements that excites me TO CONTINUE PLAYING in the demo. So, if a least fun gameplay coupled with a not-so-good graphics, do you think you want to come back and play again and again and again like Diablo ? mad.gif

Sounds :::
Seriously, even my 5.1 surround speakers felt like they were begging for some nice sound effects. Abysmal. OK fine, this is just a demo. Don't expect all the sound files to be included.

Controls :::
Quite possibly the best part of the entire Demo. Easy to master and use. But who wants easy controls when we don't wish to control the screen?

NPCs :::
Need a special mention here. Seriously, they were like statues, waiting to be resurrected. WTF?!! OMG!!! vmad.gif I... have no words to say about this. It's like... any developer could have done a Helluva lot better.

Replay value :::
Talk about fun factor. It literally killed my fun factor with the above issues. Do I want to play the game again ? I think not.

About DX9 and DX10 :::
The screenshots that I saw with MY OWN EYES spoke a different story. It was pretty, and gritty and looked every bit satisfying. The enemies on screen, the blows, the explosions, etc.. "Some" are saying DX10 is what the Demo needs to be booted with, and hence, those with DX9 will find the graphics dull. Really? So, DX10 really does THAT much difference until we can give the game less credits ?
So in the future, PC Gamer would be writing reviews like this ??? :
DirectX 9 review - 80%
DirectX 10 review - 89%

Huh??? doh.gif

Last words :::
I deleted the demo and the installer. Easy as that. Flagship Studios -- I beg you to do something. Please tell us this isn't true and that the final game will be MUCH better. I'm afraid not much can be done, and the damage (inflicted thus far by the demo) is too deep for some.

I leave bitterly through the lonely streets of London... dissapointed.... cry.gif


Added on October 20, 2007, 1:52 am****Interlopers.net Reviewer writes about the demo: ****
Just... disappointing. Its pretty sloppy is a lot a ways. The animations are pretty bad, the environments are dull, and I'm having a hard time trying to figure out if the developers actually had an art direction to begin with.


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Graphics :::
I hate those who say "graphics isn't everything. what is important is blah blah blah...". Hello? This is the year 2007. We have the GeForce 8 GPUs clocking in at ridiculous speeds. OK, so what? Is graphics everything? No. But yeah, it DOES MATTER. Who the heck wants to play a game that has graphics that is ABSOLUTELY DILUTED + DULL + FLAT ?? I found almost no visual elements that excites me TO CONTINUE PLAYING in the demo. So, if a least fun gameplay coupled with a not-so-good graphics, do you think you want to come back and play again and again and again like Diablo ?  mad.gif


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Thats pretty harsh aint it? You mean to say you hate everyone who has a different opinion from yourself or who has different taste? Seriously i would buy a game with okay graphics but great gameplay. Hellgate London is not that game for me though...

Ever played rollercoaster tycoon? Man that game gave me so much joy. Anyway if you love high end graphics you probably wont get it.

Back to the topic...I agree about gameplay...In my opinion i do find it dull too.
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QUOTE(frags @ Oct 20 2007, 02:04 AM)
Thats pretty harsh aint it? You mean to say you hate everyone who has a different opinion from yourself or who has different taste? Seriously i would buy a game with okay graphics but great gameplay. Hellgate London is not that game for me though...

Ever played rollercoaster tycoon? Man that game gave me so much joy. Anyway if you love high end graphics you probably wont get it.

Back to the topic...I agree about gameplay...In my opinion i do find it dull too.
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Harsh? So what. Its one opinion. Its not going to trigger a quake.

As I said CLEARLY :

"Is graphics everything? No. But yeah, it DOES MATTER. Who the heck wants to play a game that has graphics that is ABSOLUTELY DILUTED + DULL + FLAT ??
So, if a least fun gameplay coupled with a not-so-good graphics, do you think you want to come back and play again and again and again like Diablo ?"

Err.. for ur example of "Rollercoaster Tycoon (2D)", yes. It was an enjoyable game. Nobody cared about the graphics. It was a time when gameplay ruled over graphics. And this game's gameplay was top notch fun.
Understand?

In red - 2006/7 onwards...

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after looking at all the reviews i think i dont even want to buy the ahem version


Added on October 20, 2007, 3:03 amcould it be ur vista 64bit problem?

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after looking at all the reviews i think i dont even want to buy the ahem version


Added on October 20, 2007, 3:03 amcould it be ur vista 64bit problem?
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Dude... u have no idea. I thought this game was going to be huge. I mean HUGE. But now... I actually can't believe it...
WTF? Completely screwed!!

We as PC gamers need some answers from the developers themselves. I am waiting.
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QUOTE(Games For Windows @ Oct 20 2007, 03:49 AM)
Dude... u have no idea. I thought this game was going to be huge. I mean HUGE. But now... I actually can't believe it...
WTF? Completely screwed!!

We as PC gamers need some answers from the developers themselves. I am waiting.
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i remember there is one game similar to this on ps2 or xbox long time ago
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Devil may cry ?

QUOTE(choyster @ Oct 20 2007, 04:28 AM)
i remember there is one game similar to this on ps2 or xbox long time ago
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Google to see how hundreds of gamers say this demo just s***s :

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What the hell happened!?

For those interested, I went the melee route - I just played through what I was hoping could satisfy my need for a hack'n'slash fix, but this is not a game - this (judging by the demo) is an abortion!

How could the people who brought us Diablo 2 forget everything that made that game good so fast?
The art is bad, as in horribly generic. There is no sense of a mood to the game which is something the Diablo games excelled in providing. The mix of what is supposed to be a dark theme and poor attempts at humor is very poorly executed. I groaned when I had to fetch Wart's leg, and when the shop keeper's Warcraft inspired (Happy to serve!) voice bits played.
The tutorial even makes a point out of teaching you how to play without having to read the dialogue or follow the story. This sort of makes me fear that they didn't put much effort in to the story telling (they didn't in the demo)
There is no soundtrack to speak of...

Somehow after all the hype and all the talk of graphics, this demo ended up looking like a poor Quake 3 mod after I maxed everything at a res of 1920x1200 (I'm on XP, so maybe they blew their wad on the DX10 path?). They even reused so many level element in the demo that I at times thought I might accidentally have backtracked.

All that lovely DPS-data Diablo gave you so you didn't have to think too much when choosing between a slow high damage weapon and a fast low damage weapon? Gone as far as I can tell.

Oh, and guess what - most of the missions are of the low end MMO kind = Kill 10 zombies, collect 8 capacitors.. I wanted to puke...


This demo makes me feel like I imagine people who experienced a demo of the Phantom console felt... A lot of talk and shockingly absoluty nothing behind the facade.

Blizzard - PLEASE announce Diablo 3 soon...

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QUOTE(Games For Windows @ Oct 20 2007, 08:54 AM)
Google to see how hundreds of gamers say this demo just s***s :

From
http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums.../m/341009308831
What the hell happened!?

For those interested, I went the melee route - I just played through what I was hoping could satisfy my need for a hack'n'slash fix, but this is not a game - this (judging by the demo) is an abortion!

How could the people who brought us Diablo 2 forget everything that made that game good so fast?
The art is bad, as in horribly generic. There is no sense of a mood to the game which is something the Diablo games excelled in providing. The mix of what is supposed to be a dark theme and poor attempts at humor is very poorly executed. I groaned when I had to fetch Wart's leg, and when the shop keeper's Warcraft inspired (Happy to serve!) voice bits played.
The tutorial even makes a point out of teaching you how to play without having to read the dialogue or follow the story. This sort of makes me fear that they didn't put much effort in to the story telling (they didn't in the demo)
There is no soundtrack to speak of...

Somehow after all the hype and all the talk of graphics, this demo ended up looking like a poor Quake 3 mod after I maxed everything at a res of 1920x1200 (I'm on XP, so maybe they blew their wad on the DX10 path?). They even reused so many level element in the demo that I at times thought I might accidentally have backtracked.

All that lovely DPS-data Diablo gave you so you didn't have to think too much when choosing between a slow high damage weapon and a fast low damage weapon? Gone as far as I can tell.

Oh, and guess what - most of the missions are of the low end MMO kind = Kill 10 zombies, collect 8 capacitors.. I wanted to puke...
This demo makes me feel like I imagine people who experienced a demo of the Phantom console felt... A lot of talk and shockingly absoluty nothing behind the facade.

Blizzard - PLEASE announce Diablo 3 soon...
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eh? ahh i see....so this are the same guys that developed diablo 2....

no wonder ppl are pissed tongue.gif

@Games For Windows, dude....looks u are really effected and pissed lol

chill bro.... biggrin.gif

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Erm, i think the gameplay and graphic is okay and here i see all people dissapointed with it (graphic wise). Well, i never expected anything out of it and never understand what is the hype surrounding it when i see the trailer/screenshot/gameplay video before - just the normal hack-n-slash, the more the merrier, mmorpg style.

What were you guys expecting actually?
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I can certainly understand the outcry. Actual game is completely different from the screenshots you've seen. We have a winner COTY (Cheater of the year) - Flagship studio sweat.gif
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So much hostility, relax. blink.gif

You guys are just playing the newbie area. Can't comment on the demo's graphics (haven't d/led, maybe won't till the beta ends) but the DX9 graphics in the beta is really good especially in my 'shit' comp.

Wish I can post all my screenshots to show you. But NDA. yawn.gif
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QUOTE(Araes @ Oct 20 2007, 12:20 PM)
So much hostility, relax. blink.gif

You guys are just playing the newbie area. Can't comment on the demo's graphics (haven't d/led, maybe won't till the beta ends) but the DX9 graphics in the beta is really good especially in my 'shit' comp.

Wish I can post all my screenshots to show you. But NDA. yawn.gif
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Then it seems that there are some hope left tongue.gif. If you mentioned the graphics in the beta was really good then the demo released maybe a version during very, very early game development phase. But i highly doubt it.
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QUOTE(Araes @ Oct 20 2007, 12:20 PM)
So much hostility, relax. blink.gif

You guys are just playing the newbie area. Can't comment on the demo's graphics (haven't d/led, maybe won't till the beta ends) but the DX9 graphics in the beta is really good especially in my 'shit' comp.

Wish I can post all my screenshots to show you. But NDA. yawn.gif
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Show it. If there really is prove there is good from this game, go ahead.

This is from EvilAvatar.com ::

"The demo feels like Tabula Rasa without the fun.

The environments are terrible. Low rez textures on everything, every area is just a cube or rectangle with either a skybox or ceiling on it. I've played console games with better graphics. Comparing Resistance's London to this one, I'll stick with Resistance.

I played the marksman and upgraded my rifle so that every so often it would fire exploding bullets. Thing is, the explosion was centered on me, not on wherever my bullets were hitting. Bug or feature? I can't tell.

Game balance is terrible in the demo area too. You've either got melee mobs that are slower than you(so you never get hit), or you have melee+ranged mobs where the ranged attacks are very slow, easily dodged projectiles(so you never get hit). The only time you'll take damage is when you fight one of the boss mobs that are faster than you are.

Quest density is pretty poor too, at least in comparison to similar games. Probably around 10-15 NPCs in the demo and less than 10 quests. Of course the quests are all step&fetch it or kill X of mob Y.

If you find yourself running around at level 4 wondering why the areas don't repop, don't sweat it. Just exit to the menu and go back in to your character, the areas will be repopulated."




LOL! >>
Just exit to the menu and go back in to your character, the areas will be repopulated biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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After I started the demo I couldn't wait for it to end... it is that boooring... sad.gif
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QUOTE(quarantined @ Oct 20 2007, 01:21 PM)
After I started the demo I couldn't wait for it to end... it is that boooring... sad.gif
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Wow... you wanted it to end fast. I wanted to uninstall the demo fast...


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QUOTE(Games For Windows @ Oct 20 2007, 01:09 PM)

If you find yourself running around at level 4 wondering why the areas don't repop, don't sweat it. Just exit to the menu and go back in to your character, the areas will be repopulated."
LOL! >>
Just exit to the menu and go back in to your character, the areas will be repopulated  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Ahhh yes, now I remembered...

After stuck finding this Lann guy, i exit to the menu and try other class (blademaster). Then after bored with the hack and slash( its look damn funny with the slash... kinda laggy) changed back to my marksman and the convenent map changed. But still nowhere to find this stupid Lann.
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QUOTE(Games For Windows @ Oct 20 2007, 01:09 PM)
Show it. If there really is prove there is good from this game, go ahead.

This is from EvilAvatar.com ::

"The demo feels like Tabula Rasa without the fun.

The environments are terrible. Low rez textures on everything, every area is just a cube or rectangle with either a skybox or ceiling on it. I've played console games with better graphics. Comparing Resistance's London to this one, I'll stick with Resistance.

I played the marksman and upgraded my rifle so that every so often it would fire exploding bullets. Thing is, the explosion was centered on me, not on wherever my bullets were hitting. Bug or feature? I can't tell.

Game balance is terrible in the demo area too. You've either got melee mobs that are slower than you(so you never get hit), or you have melee+ranged mobs where the ranged attacks are very slow, easily dodged projectiles(so you never get hit). The only time you'll take damage is when you fight one of the boss mobs that are faster than you are.

Quest density is pretty poor too, at least in comparison to similar games. Probably around 10-15 NPCs in the demo and less than 10 quests. Of course the quests are all step&fetch it or kill X of mob Y.

If you find yourself running around at level 4 wondering why the areas don't repop, don't sweat it. Just exit to the menu and go back in to your character, the areas will be repopulated."
LOL! >>
Just exit to the menu and go back in to your character, the areas will be repopulated  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Like I said I don't have to show you jack squat until the NDA is lifted. What you guys are playing is probably 5% or less than 5% of the game.

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If you find yourself running around at level 4 wondering why the areas don't repop, don't sweat it. [b]Just exit to the menu and go back in to your character, the areas will be repopulated.


Wha?? Dumbest statement of the day!

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The premium subscription crap is another downside. Don't want to pay monthly fees for an instanced (lol) game? Then enjoy not getting any additional content or updates.
Another potential purchase turned to pirating.
At least I still have TF2. Hurr
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Okay critics aside, let's start discussing the gameplay. Let me start with 1 question, possibly someone knew much about the game already.

I got a Templar Broadsword, with a Mods (0/1). So i went to the nano forge and try to forge (?) so that it can have the mods (?). Place the broadsword, and it ask for 2 items, a scrap materials (x3) and a blessed shards (x3).

I already know how to get the scrap materials (not so sure, just select any item in the inventory and attempt to break down the item). so far i only got 2 scrap, and other attempts fails. So how do i get a blessed shards? Any specific item i should try to break for getting it?

Thanks for any help.
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Blessed Shards come from any Templar items like brest plates, greaves, swords. The key is to break down any lousy items you find, never sell them. Mods are different and have nothing to do with nano forge. They are usually drop by mobs or found in crates or chests.
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@Games For Windows, dude....looks u are really effected and pissed lol

chill bro.... biggrin.gif
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Dude,just cool down a bit.Just because the demo is bad.You dont have to start to curse the developers.

It sounds more broken than the UT3 beta demo.I not going to download it.

Seems like Orange Box is for me.


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QUOTE(Araes @ Oct 20 2007, 05:23 PM)
Blessed Shards come from any Templar items like brest plates, greaves, swords. The key is to break down any lousy items you find, never sell them. Mods are different and have nothing to do with nano forge. They are usually drop by mobs or found in crates or chests.
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Hey thanks for da info. Finally got the shards, and yeah, the nano forge is for upgrading the item and not for mods. Misunderstood the device purpose heh. Btw, I try to break down a green item (special type?), then got this new type of rare shards. Is it for upgrades also?

Also I got a burly apprentice cope with +3 str modifier (a type of apprentice shoulder armor), why can't i wear it? I'm playing as blademaster, is it because of character class? It says there equip cost: 1 stamina, and I think my stamina is enough (uh, care to show how to look at the attributes? Don't quite understand the attributes feed)

Anyway, for guys who are bored, try to challenge the boss in covent garden steam tunnel. Quite tough and loot sometimes good. A possible candidate for a 'run' maybe rolleyes.gif tongue.gif
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Just wanna let you guys know that NDA for Hellgate: London has been lifted. Check the official website.

Just finished the demo:

Graphics: Looks really dated but that doesn't really bother me much. I maxed out every single details and got really smooth fps everywhere.

Gameplay: Similar to Diablo 2. Nothing really new there other than guns and the game is in 3D.

Sounds: Pretty ok but what the heck... no voice acting?

Replayability: Can't really see much replayability from the demo. FSS screwed themselves up with the demo to be honest (I'll explain why below).


My only words will be, if you love Diablo 2 (hack n slash + end game loot hunting) I think you will like this. If your looking for something like Oblivion, you will be very disappointed.

I have seen my friends play the beta and it is ALOT better than this demo. FSS screwed this demo by limiting way too many stuffs in the demo.


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And.. the first google come up with a review of how the game play - http://pixelinvader.com/2007/10/hellgate-london-nda-lifted/
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Ok just realized the beta NDA has been lifted doh.gif
Now I can answer all your questions about the multiplayer game and post up screens but 1st details on the zero day patch. nod.gif

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DX10 Update
The build of Hellgate: London which you are reviewing includes both DX9 and DX10 versions of the graphics library. The DX10 version of this build has a few known issues. They include a slow framerate compared to the same scene in DX9 and black loading screens. We're currently working on a fix for the black loading screens. The slower framerate is due to the fill-rate intensive special features that only our DX10 engine has, including: soft shadows with proper contact hardening, depth-of-field, motion blur, interactive GPU-simulated fluid smoke, texture-array animated rain, and soft particles. The extra fill rate costs are mitigated by an initial depth-only render pass, which is now being tested and will be ready for release. When Hellgate: London hits retail, we expect the framerate of our DX10 target to be as high, if not higher than DX9, including these special features.

Multiplayer Updates - All Players
We are continuing to push both new multiplayer features and bug fixes to the Beta. Things that may or may not be in during their review time (depending on when they do it), but will be in by launch are:

Buddy Lists
Much better and easier ways to organize your friends!

Guilds
While only subscribers can start one, anyone can join a guild. Special name colors and tags on characters show their affiliation.

Buddy and Guild Chat
Special chat channels so you can keep your conversations clear.

Bigger Levels in Nightmare Mode
These increase the time players get to spend in each area, giving the game a more expansive feel at higher difficulty levels.

PVP
Players can both duel and elect to enter free-for-all PvP Mode. To duel, a player invites the person they wish to duel into a group, and heads into an adventuring area. Duelers, then right-click on the portrait of the person they wish to duel and select the Duel option from the displayed list. Dueling can only take place outside of Underground hubs.

Players can also choose to enter into PvP mode which means they can be attacked and harmed outside of Underground hubs by anyone else that has chosen to enter PvP mode. That is, those in PvP mode, must always be ready for PvP. This is a way to have wide-ranging free-for-alls, or create your own "friendly-fire" way of playing the game.

Tuned Game Progression
Level and monster progression is more thematic in nature. While this does not affect the overarching layout of the world map, it does make each act feel more defined and focused.

Gossip
We've added loads of additional details on the people and places in the game through various NPCs in the world. This definitely helps make the stations feel more alive and provides players with more of the back-story.

More Quest Information
Quest NPCs do a better job of getting you prepared to know what you're fighting and why. The overall story flows much better, the named demons that are encountered are given more story weight, and players gain a much better sense of overall direction.

NPC Tweaks
The vocal responses given by NPCs have been tuned so that they tend more towards the serious and "normal", reserving the twisted commentary for specific player characters or in rare moments for the general populace.

Subscriber Features

Elite Mode
This is for those players that always feel a game is too easy. The demons are tougher, deal out more damage, move faster, travel in larger groups, and have more champions at the ready. Numerous tweaks to the overall balance and progression of the game make this an extremely challenging mode.

Hardcore
Hardcore mode takes away the various resurrection options. For the gamer that wants the ultimate test, try playing an Elite Hardcore character!

Themed Events and Items

Halloween (October 31 - November 4)

.  Zombot - A special pet just for All Hallows', this amalgam of meat and metal is sure to frighten and delight those players that are willing to put in the time to find all the necessary pieces in order to construct him.

.  All Hallow's Visage - A Unique Helm that has not only very special properties, but as well a look unlike any other helm in the game. Ghost Rider would be jealous!

.  All Hallow's Treats - Delicious and devious, these different candies do everything from temporarily boosting stats to temporarily altering the appearance of the devourer.

.  All Hallows' Quests - There is a pair of special quests available, including one that is repeatable for continuous fun.

.  Nemo ~ Master of Festivities - This special NPC can first be found in Covent Garden Station to greet players and send them on their way with quests specifically crafted for the season.

Guild Creation
Buy purchasing a Guild Herald, a character can form a new guild. Characters can only be part of one guild at a time and should a Guild leader decide to abandon their post, they can pass leadership of the Guild to another subscribing guild member.

Achievements
These are long-term goals for players. The player starts with a few new goals in an Achievement Log. These can be as simple as slaying a certain amount of specific demons to something as difficult as completing quests without the benefit of armor! Players uncover new goals as they start to meet the requirements of that achievement. For example, after 50 zombies have been slain, an "Achievement Unlocked" message displays on the screen. Checking the Achievement Log shows how many zombies must be eradicated to complete the achievement. Rewards for completing achievements can be anything from reputation to tags on the player to special particle effects to items to special skills to - well, anything is possible!

Extra Character Slots
While everyone gets 3 character slots, subscribers can have a maximum of 24 characters.

Larger Stash
Each character's storage locker is doubled in size with an extra 6x8 section, making the hoarding of all sorts of goodies that much easier. Packrats rejoice!

Founder's Perks
Name Color
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More to come... (this will be an on-going area, as well)


Beta screens:(1024x768@85Hz, Shadow=Medium, Texture Detail=Medium, No AA, No VSync, No AF/TF, No Dynamic Lighting, rest on High or Very High)

These screens are of my lvl 18 Templar Guardian!

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More images coming soon!

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Beta servers down ? or has the beta ended already ? sheesssh. I was just about to login dammit!
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Araes, may i ask? Where is the place of the 2nd image ? look like didn't beat that boss before......
I stick on the demon street there don't know go where.
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QUOTE(Araes @ Oct 20 2007, 12:20 PM)
So much hostility, relax. blink.gif

You guys are just playing the newbie area. Can't comment on the demo's graphics (haven't d/led, maybe won't till the beta ends) but the DX9 graphics in the beta is really good especially in my 'shit' comp.

Wish I can post all my screenshots to show you. But NDA. yawn.gif
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Well I just gave the demo a shot earlier and with everything supposedly maxed out on a dated DX9 system, it looks like SERIOUS ass. I mean, when you have texture detail set to High, it shouldn't look worst than Half-life 2 set to Medium (The faces looked blurry for crying out loud). Ok, the environments look pretty damned good, but the characters look incredibly crappy.

Now, the gameplay feels... like shit. From what I read, the FPS parts were a bit crappy, so when I tried it out, I came to the same conclusion ("Twitch reflexes required" my ass). So, I tried the blademaster class and that feels even worst. Its unwieldy and doesn't feel satisfying at all.

Say what you will about how its ok in the beta and whatnot, but from the demo alone, this game went from somewhat interesting in my books, to "No way in Hell" (Pun not intended)

I will say one thing though... It loads pretty damned fast.
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Apparently there is plans for a live chat thingie in xfire with the flagship guys on the 31st Oct(wednesday 3pm PDT)...So maybe got any burning questions can ask them straght to their face...well maybe its not face to face...but you get my point.

http://www.xfire.com/cms/xf_hellgate/
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Oct 21 2007, 12:38 AM)
Well I just gave the demo a shot earlier and with everything supposedly maxed out on a dated DX9 system, it looks like SERIOUS ass. I mean, when you have texture detail set to High, it shouldn't look worst than Half-life 2 set to Medium (The faces looked blurry for crying out loud). Ok, the environments look pretty damned good, but the characters look incredibly crappy.

Now, the gameplay feels... like shit. From what I read, the FPS parts were a bit crappy, so when I tried it out, I came to the same conclusion ("Twitch reflexes required" my ass). So, I tried the blademaster class and that feels even worst. Its unwieldy and doesn't feel satisfying at all.

Say what you will about how its ok in the beta and whatnot, but from the demo alone, this game went from somewhat interesting in my books, to "No way in Hell" (Pun not intended)

I will say one thing though... It loads pretty damned fast.
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I felt exactly the same. Everything maxed out and it seriously looks bad.

So I went to Gamespot.com, and watched some gameplay videos. It looked awesome, strangely. The camera angle they used in the gameplay video is almost like Diablo II, the top-down view but not exactly top down, meaning at a certain angle. And the mouse cursors did some magic spells and fire was spawned, zombies came out of the ground, huge beasts roamed the land.... it looked amazing...

But WTF is with the Demo ??
I want to play like the Gameplay video...

Perhaps (and I hate to say this) the final version will be what we are looking for...

I am not too hopeful.

A game demo should help us decide whether to buy the full game or not.
This demo didn't do anything. It only made me angry.

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A late beta tester here. Just got the keys yesterday (lucky me). After going through a few quests, I'm probably gonna buy this game. It looks promising from the beta point of view.

I'm only level 5 or 6, not as high as Araes biggrin.gif
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Fed myself with plenty of YouTube.com and GameTrailers.com gameplay videos of Hellgate London. Seriously, it looks fun and the graphics in the video look nice.
This game is reminding of the the TV show ABC's "The Nine". It promised so much, the trailers and previews were solid, but when the show started its episodes, it just fell apart.

Game developers Flagship Studios admit there are bugs in the demo release. OMG? They only noticed 'bugs'? They continued to say that it will be sorted out and they have no worries at all about the final release.

Wow.


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QUOTE(angeldothack @ Oct 20 2007, 05:54 PM)
Hey thanks for da info. Finally got the shards, and yeah, the nano forge is for upgrading the item and not for mods. Misunderstood the device purpose heh. Btw, I try to break down a green item (special type?), then got this new type of rare shards. Is it for upgrades also?
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Rare materials are used for upgrading magic items(Magic[Green], Rare[Blue], Legedary[Orange] & Unique[Yellow]). You have to use a mix of rare and normal materials to upgrade those items.

QUOTE(angeldothack @ Oct 20 2007, 05:54 PM)
Also I got a burly apprentice cope with +3 str modifier (a type of apprentice shoulder armor), why can't i wear it? I'm playing as blademaster, is it because of character class? It says there equip cost: 1 stamina, and I think my stamina is enough (uh, care to show how to look at the attributes? Don't quite understand the attributes feed)
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basically they are the total accumulation of the equip cost of all the equipment you are using. When you increase your attributes the feed will reduce. Some times items have very high equip cost you won't be able to use it because you attribute feed is very high.

QUOTE(vincent09 @ Oct 20 2007, 11:29 PM)
Araes, may i ask? Where is the place of the 2nd image ? look like didn't beat that boss before......
I stick on the demon street there don't know go where.
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The location of 2nd image is not available in the demo, its part of Act 3 of the game. In total there are 5 Acts in the full game.

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QUOTE(angeldothack @ Oct 20 2007, 09:36 PM)
And.. the first google come up with a review of how the game play - http://pixelinvader.com/2007/10/hellgate-london-nda-lifted/
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I downloaded and tested the demo yesterday. Just hope to voice out my opinion :-

I do agree that the demo was not up to expectations and also not proportionate to the hype it has caused diablo series fans. I mean the game could be much better in more areas since we were expecting "high quality gaming experience" as we enjoyed in the earlier Diablo series.

It does lead me to think if games of the Diablo series standards are only possible under the combined effort of the Diablo developers and Blizzard.

I hope that the final game release would be much better than the current demo and from what I read from reviewer(above) who spoke out after the nda has lifted, there truly seems to be a lot more to look out for.

PS: The demo was really quite bland, in view that demos are supposed to attract people to buy the games... But overall the gameplay is smooth which I think would truly makes multiplayer mode very enjoyable. And to those disappointed, do look at the review provided by angeldothack.
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Thank you Araes , i though is in demo biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Edmund06Lee @ Oct 21 2007, 11:06 AM)
I downloaded and tested the demo yesterday. Just hope to voice out my opinion :-

I do agree that the demo was not up to expectations and also not proportionate to the hype it has caused diablo series fans. I mean the game could be much better in more areas since we were expecting "high quality gaming experience" as we enjoyed in the earlier Diablo series.

It does lead me to think if games of the Diablo series standards are only possible under the combined effort of the Diablo developers and Blizzard.

I hope that the final game release would be much better than the current demo and from what I read from reviewer(above) who spoke out after the nda has lifted, there truly seems to be a lot more to look out for.

PS: The demo was really quite bland, in view that demos are supposed to attract people to buy the games... But overall the gameplay is smooth which I think would truly makes multiplayer mode very enjoyable. And to those disappointed, do look at the review provided by angeldothack.
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Then why put the demo in the first place if the bad points are so DAMN obvious?

Some demo it seems.



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with the new patch we could create a guild? any malaysian guild here? tongue.gif
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Should I do a poll on whether the final release would suck badly or not?
You know what, perhaps the demo was screwed badly but the final release isn't. I've seen the gameplay videos and seriously, its quite enjoyable, but not the demo.

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Can't wait for tis game 2 come out jo....
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Wow..this game rocks just by watching the movie...
release date is early nov?? realy cant wait..

do u guys think pentium D2.8 with 7600gt enuff??
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Wow..this game rocks just by watching the movie...
release date is early nov?? realy cant wait..

do u guys think pentium D2.8 with 7600gt enuff??
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wow everybody is saying this game suck and suddenly you 2 popped out saying "omg it rocks I can't wait 2 play the full version!" (on Rm15 I bet) doh.gif
Have you even read the replies?

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Must they follow what people here said about the demo ? rolleyes.gif

Judge by the actual game, not the demo itself, beside it won't ruin ones' lives anyway if the game sucks.

I will wait for the actual game, seem I can't install the demo even though I successfully downloaded it 3 times.
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wow everybody is saying this game suck and suddenly you 2 popped out saying "omg it rocks I can't wait 2 play the full version!"  (on Rm15 I bet)  doh.gif
Have you even read the replies?
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I wonder if you can like, wait 6 months, subscribe for one month then get all the updates and crap for the 6 months.
Would be cool if you could do that. It would also be assholish of them to avoid doing that. So people who didn't pay for certain times will miss out on content forever?
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My game experience has been raised slightly after joining in the Beta multiplayer test. The game's still below expectations at this point, but it's standing with me has improved over the horrible Demo. The DX10 effects are nothing to shout about. Performance is slow/typical of current DX10 games (i.e. around the 30-40 fps mark on a 3.1Ghz c2d + 8800GTX).

My in-game nic is Eoma. Currently in Covent Garden, just met Lan and doing the station quests. Lvl 4 Blademaster.

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Seeing as the server is in NA, i'm getting disconnects every once in a while. Don't suppose I can change the Region (along with a valid account) to the SEA servers ?
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QUOTE(Eoma @ Oct 21 2007, 11:39 PM)
My game experience has been raised slightly after joining in the Beta multiplayer test. The game's still below expectations at this point, but it's standing with me has improved over the horrible Demo. The DX10 effects are nothing to shout about. Performance is slow/typical of current DX10 games (i.e. around the 30-40 fps mark on a 3.1Ghz c2d + 8800GTX).
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The build of Hellgate: London which you are reviewing includes both DX9 and DX10 versions of the graphics library. The DX10 version of this build has a few known issues. They include a slow framerate compared to the same scene in DX9 and black loading screens. We're currently working on a fix for the black loading screens. The slower framerate is due to the fill-rate intensive special features that only our DX10 engine has, including: soft shadows with proper contact hardening, depth-of-field, motion blur, interactive GPU-simulated fluid smoke, texture-array animated rain, and soft particles. The extra fill rate costs are mitigated by an initial depth-only render pass, which is now being tested and will be ready for release. When Hellgate: London hits retail, we expect the framerate of our DX10 target to be as high, if not higher than DX9, including these special features.


Yes I would agree that DX10 version is nothing to shout about but some of the improvements are not immediately visible as you see from the bolded text above. Can you really notice a difference between DX9 rain effects and DX10 rain effects or interactive GPU-simulated fluid smoke? I guess you should be able to notice depth of field and motion blur. Also DX10 version is going to get some improvement in framerate in the 1st retail patch.

QUOTE(Eoma @ Oct 21 2007, 11:39 PM)
Fellow beta-testers:
Seeing as the server is in NA, i'm getting disconnects every once in a while. Don't suppose I can change the Region (along with a valid account) to the SEA servers ?
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Beta is only in NA region hence you play in NA servers. Basically it is a truly international server at least for the moment. The retail game is going to be separating the regions. Retail SEA version will have their own servers and account and billing system and will only be able to play on this server. NA version will have their own servers, account system and same goes with Europe. But Europeans will able to play in NA servers unlike us.

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Oct 21 2007, 07:19 PM)
wow everybody is saying this game suck and suddenly you 2 popped out saying "omg it rocks I can't wait 2 play the full version!"  (on Rm15 I bet)  doh.gif
Have you even read the replies?
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i saw the movie..looks great to me...

dun give much dam about those replys...some ppl like it..some dun...so wat..

so wats ur problem again??i kinda miss it...
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QUOTE(lthock @ Oct 22 2007, 12:00 AM)
i saw the movie..looks great to me...

dun give much dam about those replys...some ppl like it..some dun...so wat..

so wats ur problem again??i kinda miss it...
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Am i the only one enjoying the demo.. >_>

I kept playing until now, doing map runs and collecting items. Have came across quite a few interesting things/items/mods. Killing champions in one of the map and slashing my way through hordes of enemies with my blademaster. At level 5 only. And on 3 maps only. Can't wait for the full version.

Yesterday I came across some unique rat, that drop a rat relic mod. Lol? Not so great though. 12% enhanced dmg only for weapon lvl 1-12.
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Been watching plenty of Hellgate: London gameplay videos. Looks fun.

Again I ask this question :

Why would they put such a bad demo if all they really want is to attract more gamers to buy the full game?

Can you answer that question?

GameSpot.com's comments on the demo is flooded with negativity except a few RPG junkies (e.g "Yeah! I collected lvl 3 sword "lol-suxor" after killing a zombie) & (Wow, the post-box looks amazingly damaged, I could use it as a shield against the zombies and perhaps gain more experience blocking etc. etc.)


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2lions is a username for a reviewer at ActionTrip. Very famous. And in his 'own words' about the DEMO :
Source: http://www.actiontrip.com/rei/comments_new...tml?id=102007_5

One user comments that mods and patches will help the overall game release and that we should have patience.

2lions Oct 20 2007, 12:27 pm
It's not a matter of me having patience. It's a matter of consumers being willing to give them a chance. Which is becoming doubtful. Not because what I think but what the mood is around the web.


It seems the Beta > Demo. Everyone is questioning Flagship Studios. Some are saying 'they ran out of money' and they are doing things at a minimal level right now, including not updating stuffs online and keeping gamers informed, in a timely manner.


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On the other hand, the demo simply doesn't offer any sort of decent gameplay that could tell me whether I'd like this one or not in the long run. In addition, yeah, Hellgate does lack polish. The performance is shitty even on a decent system and in DX9. I guess it does feel like a beta in that way and to think it's already gone gold, doesn't really fill me with much hope.



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Damn lately i've not been logging into beta and when a friend called to inform me that demo been released and review sites are burning the game to the ground, i scoured around the forums to find lots of dismayed demoers. Then NDA is lifted, and loads of keys were sent out, which seems like FSS' damage control kicking in.

I've yet to try the demo, and most probably wont, but is it that bad as compared to the beta? For a game that has been on many's wish list, i guess the expectations were enormous. Real pity FSS did not put much attention into the demo. Perhaps the looming deadline is the reason for the subpar demo.

Anyway, Areas, have you reached Act 4 or 5? From what i've read, it seems that the tileset for the first 3 acts are gonna be pretty much the same, which is a real let down sad.gif. Word is that the developers are creating more tilesets before the release. I can only cross my fingers sad.gif
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QUOTE(Fatimus @ Oct 21 2007, 08:25 PM)
Must they follow what people here said about the demo ?  rolleyes.gif

Judge by the actual game, not the demo itself, beside it won't ruin ones' lives anyway if the game sucks.

I will wait for the actual game, seem I can't install the demo even though I successfully downloaded it 3 times.
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Look, the purpose of a demo is to get ppl to want to buy the actual game. So, if the demo sucks, it doesn't really matter if the actual game is jaw-droppingly awesome: Nobody's going to get it.

You could say that "Oh but its just the newbie area, and that does suck monkey balls". Well if that's the case, why put the super sucky newbie mode in the bloody demo when the purpose of the demo is to highlight the better parts of the game?

From what I've read everywhere else, it seems the beta > demo but I'm not really that interested anymore.
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A demo is still a demo, it always incomplete, and crappier than actual game, judging based from my experience on demos. Many people complained the Serious Sam 2 demo yet I enjoyed it.

Call me too lenient or suck up, I still give this game a chance when it comes out.
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Oct 22 2007, 07:14 AM)
Look, the purpose of a demo is to get ppl to want to buy the actual game. So, if the demo sucks, it doesn't really matter if the actual game is jaw-droppingly awesome: Nobody's going to get it.

You could say that "Oh but its just the newbie area, and that does suck monkey balls". Well if that's the case, why put the super sucky newbie mode in the bloody demo when the purpose of the demo is to highlight the better parts of the game?

From what I've read everywhere else, it seems the beta > demo but I'm not really that interested anymore.
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QUOTE(Fatimus @ Oct 22 2007, 08:46 AM)
A demo is still a demo, it always incomplete, and crappier than actual game, judging based from my experience on demos. Many people complained the Serious Sam 2 demo yet I enjoyed it.

Call me too lenient or suck up, I still give this game a chance when it comes out.
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Crappier than the actual game? In what way? Graphics are bland in the demo, and then superb high-quality graphics in the full release? Mediocre and dated gameplay in the demo, and then incredibly high-octance action in the full release? How this is making any sense?

The demo is totally screwed. Yes, demo is NOT how the final release will be but the bloody purpose of the demo is to (read my words one-by-one) :

HELP US DECIDE WHETHER TO BUY THE FINAL GAME OR NOT

And this demo absolutely blew its chances on me...

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QUOTE(Fatimus @ Oct 22 2007, 08:46 AM)
A demo is still a demo, it always incomplete, and crappier than actual game, judging based from my experience on demos. Many people complained the Serious Sam 2 demo yet I enjoyed it.

Call me too lenient or suck up, I still give this game a chance when it comes out.
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Look at it this way. Most ppl would assume that a demo is more complete than a beta as the latter is not supposed to be fit for the public yet and lacks the refinements the demo is supposed to have.

A demo, while small, should be able to offer a decent amount of gameplay that is representative of what the full game will be like. If you've tried the FEAR demo, you'll know what I'm talking about (The demo was basically a montage of the various parts of the game, including easy and hard enemies with some Alma thrown in). If they had just included the first 2 levels of the game in the demo, it would basically just be a crappy tutorial with some scary parts thrown in.

Demos for me are usually the primary method for me to decide if a game is worthy of my money. Second is reviews. So, if they screw up a demo, their loss.

This doesn't just apply to this game alone but every other game out there.

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hmmm, is it possible to cancel preorder with tsb?
i did so before i got the demo, and now i'm having second thoughts after going through the demo
blademaster's motion is farking unrealistic in the demo, dun give me the swordman feeling at all...
so if possible i rather wait for actual game release before buying
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QUOTE(alwizbthere @ Oct 22 2007, 10:36 AM)
hmmm, is it possible to cancel preorder with tsb?
i did so before i got the demo, and now i'm having second thoughts after going through the demo
blademaster's motion is farking unrealistic in the demo, dun give me the swordman feeling at all...
so if possible i rather wait for actual game release before buying
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Not to say that demo's are meant to be unfnished version of the retail, but most companies just won't do what Flagship did. blink.gif
Yes, demos are not meant to be the whole game experiance nor the finished product. But look at Jericho, I downloaded it and played for a short while. While the game was short, the gameplay was beautiful. rclxms.gif Demos are suppose to be like what Codemaster did with Jericho. A good presentation of the game.
For those who haven't played Clive Barker's Jericho, please do download it. It a great game with the M rating and i see why.
I respect Flagships own view of this, but did they really have to release such a bad demo? hmm.gif Business wise....?
For those who are still sceptical, i think Flagship is feeling the pain. If this be true, the only way thay can fix this is with a huge patch.
If not its gonna go the way of Vanguard: Saga Of Heroes and Grenado Espada. And we know how those turned out. cry.gif

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just try out this game.
a normal fps mmorpg to me.
i found out that there are too many fps + zombie world.

about the graphic, i think it's mean to be play by all system.
srsly, i have test using playing the game using onboard gpu (intel gma950) and its playable. of course , all the settings are sets to low.

meetxj9 : GE is different than this game.. i just dont trust the host, IAH. though the game playable through the offline mode..
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Miyabi:- I'm talking about the hype factor, Grenado espada though not great was quite hyped back then, so was Vanguard. The worst fate that could actually happen to Hellgate London is that. cry.gif To make things worst IAH is the host for Hellgate London..............

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I donno... I kind of like the game. There are glitches here and there but its been some time since I find interest in games such as this.
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have try the demo today damn nice the graphic man and love the gameplay like diablo 2
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 22 2007, 05:22 AM)
I've yet to try the demo, and most probably wont, but is it that bad as compared to the beta? For a game that has been on many's wish list, i guess the expectations were enormous. Real pity FSS did not put much attention into the demo. Perhaps the looming deadline is the reason for the subpar demo.
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Not really surprised about the quality of the demo. FSS is really in a crunch mode & busy finishing the game for the 31st release date & also with the beta. They must haven't had time to make a proper demo. What they should have done is not release a demo at all like what Assasin's Creed team has done or release one once the game is released

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Anyway, Areas, have you reached Act 4 or 5? From what i've read, it seems that the tileset for the first 3 acts are gonna be pretty much the same, which is a real let down sad.gif. Word is that the developers are creating more tilesets before the release. I can only cross my fingers sad.gif
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Nope, I'm not in the Act 4 & 5 extended beta. That portion is still under strict NDA. Actually, I'm glad I'm not in it, don't want to spoil the entire game before it comes out. Act 1 - 3 is enough. smile.gif

Another bunch of screenshots:

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Final batch of screens coming!

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I just got the beta test keys today, izzit worth downloading the client and trying it out ?
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I just got the beta test keys today, izzit worth downloading the client and trying it out ?
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I think it's up to you, since it's about a week+ before launch.

I have taken some comparison screenshots, and check the beta forums, seems some older graphic cards will produce graphics from lowDX9 to midDX9 range even if the settings is on "high" or "very high", it will still come out with images as seen on lowDX9 and midDX9 images.

highDX9 and highDX10 don't have much difference, both have smooth framerates too.

system used for screenshot: 2.6C2D, 4GB ram, 8800GTS 320mb.

top left: highDX10 top right: highDX9
bottom left: midDX9 bottom right: lowDX9

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DX10 and DX9 look almost the same.
High and Medium have a HUGE graphical difference. And Low is just abysmal. It looks like Quake 2.
Crappy scaling ftl?
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Before I got the new PC(past 1 day or 2), my old PC can only play it max all low(and off all which is able to off), some intense fight may make you forget it though some times.
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QUOTE(Zephro @ Oct 23 2007, 07:13 AM)
DX10 and DX9 look almost the same.
High and Medium have a HUGE graphical difference. And Low is just abysmal. It looks like Quake 2.
Crappy scaling ftl?
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There is pratically no difference between DX10 and DX9 textures thats why they look the same. DX10 features are mainly that of special effects that cannot be seen inside the station like DX10 rain, shadows, smoke, smooth particles, depth of field and motion blur. Heaven, you need to take the screens outside in the game world. Depth of field and motion blur effects require you to be in combat or in motion.

Last batch of beta screens(with Act 1 - 3 World Map):

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US Beta ending this Friday! cry.gif But beta will be back up for a week just before launch and all characters create during this period will be transfered to the retail.

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Howdy folks. Just want to give you all a heads-up with a few Beta updates. First, the US Beta will be ending this Friday at 10:00AM PST. This will include a full character wipe. Yeah, I know some of you didn't get to play as long as others, but the final game will be out in the US just a few days later.

That said, some time just before launch (don't have a specific time/date yet), we'll actually be opening the Beta server back up for about a week. "This makes no sense, Kaiser!" Well, maybe not at first, but not everyone will be able to get the game on launch day for various reasons. This way, if you're in the Beta and are still waiting for your game to arrive, you'll still be able to play Hellgate. Also, the characters you create during this time will transfer over into your retail account. Once this happens, any caps/restrictions will be lifted. Yay! The characters will still have the Beta caps on them (such as level caps and such), but you can at least get started with your characters.

Hmm, what else. Oh yeah. You might see a new server environment pop up. This is mostly for testing the Patch 0 features internally, though some of you might be able to see it. There's no guarantee you'll see it, but if you do, at least you'll know what's going on. Also, this is important: if you do see it and get access to it, any characters used on this server will be duplicates, so any changes that occur to your character will not be reflected on the "normal" servers, and vice versa.

Lastly, we'll be starting a European Beta sometime soon. This will be short and to the point, mainly as a last check on our servers. We'll be sending out invites to a select group of Europeans. If this includes you, please, try it out. Though the game will be the same as the current US Beta, one, we need you all to help us ensure the Euro servers are perfect, and two, you can get your European account name before everyone else. Worth it, right? happy.gif


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I know, but I needed a static environment for better screenshot comparisons, personally I haven't tried motion blur and depth of field, beacuse from what I saw in preview screenshots, depth of field makes your guns blur(doh!).

Will post more screenshots after I get back from work, probably try out motion blur and depth of field too, outdoors of course.
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So whos gonna be the boss for Hellgate London? For Diablo is Diablo then this?
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So whos gonna be the boss for Hellgate London? For Diablo is Diablo then this?
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There are a number of bosses but in Act 1 - 3 there is Shulgoth, Sekworm, Emperor Gulkar, Occulis the All Seeing.

Then there this huge boss(The Beast of Abadon) probably in Act 4 or 5:
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Read more here:
http://pc.ign.com/articles/822/822734p1.html

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Played the beta with Araes today ... no bad, i really enjoy it, esspecially the music .. its awesome. Im for sure getting this game, no doubt about that. Araes .. when the beta will end ?
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for those who's playing the beta, i hv a question.. where and how do i access stash? =/
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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ Oct 23 2007, 08:13 PM)
Played the beta with Araes today ... no bad, i really enjoy it, esspecially the music .. its awesome. Im for sure getting this game, no doubt about that. Araes .. when the beta will end ?
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Yeh, it was great partying. nod.gif The beta officially ends on Saturday @ 1am local time.

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for those who's playing the beta, i hv a question.. where and how do i access stash? =/
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Stash is located close the vendors and the item upgrading devices. It looks like a big locker box. Just click the locker when the hand icon turns green to access it.
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So.....................is the beta better.....................is what we see in the demo not true? Please tell me that it is. blink.gif
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So.....................is the beta better.....................is what we see in the demo not true? Please tell me that it is. blink.gif
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Ok......if thats the case i WILL buy the game when it comes out, but not the collectors edition. Just to be safe. icon_idea.gif
But if its still crap.................i have nothing left to say about Flagship.
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My God, so much *****ing in this thread. Then again, most people who're complaining about the demo never got into beta.

Yes the beta is far more polished. Yes, the demo is half-assed but that's not how the game will come out. And no, we won't miss your patronage if you decide to shelve this game because you hate the demo. Good riddance and bon voyage to...whatever other games you're fapping to.

Can't wait for the 31st of October.
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Flagship explains the EULA and Advertisments.

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We just made some big announcements about Hellgate: London, and it's been great to see all of the excited comments regarding what we have in store for our players on day one and onward. On the flip side, we've also heard grumblings about the EULA that went out with our DX9 single-player demo.

We want to make something very clear. We are in no way scanning your computers for your personal information or taking any personal information without your knowledge. The only time that Flagship or Ping0 would collect your personally identifiable information is when you actually decide to give it to us. Examples are when you create an account for Hellgate: London online or when you provide us your personal information when you enter a contest. The language in the portion of the EULA that has been cited is actually fairly standardized language that is used in the vast majority of EULAs for recent on-line software. It was unfortunately also somewhat broad in scope and potentially ambiguous in nature in an attempt to keep the legalese at a minimum.

This catch-all statement was included so that we have the ability to determine if someone is using hacks, unauthorized mods or other abusive applications while playing the game which spoils the gameplay for everyone else. We also use this catch-all to protect other parties offering technical support, such as our online provider, Ping0. This is a completely legitimate function and other leaders in the MMO space do it in an effort to stop hackers and provide better technical support. In order to stop hacks and cheats, as well as attempts at outright fraud, we may need the ability to scan our player's computers for applications running at the same time as our game. This paragraph was designed to be able to allow for such functionality. It is also important to point out that EA does not determine what we do in regards to online and offline for our game security.

Also, this has nothing specifically to do with advertisements. EA has nothing do with Massive or potential ad-serving in Hellgate: London. First and foremost, any in-game advertising that would be in Hellgate: London is there to simulate how London looks in the real-world. Ads that represent this have been in the entirety of the beta, and in fact, have been shown in the game for well over a year. The fact is that we did not agree to potentially have ads in the game just to make more money. If we did not work with Massive, we would have to get individual approvals from every single company that we want to feature in the Underground stations. This is simply too time consuming and it's much better to have the experts to do it, allowing us time to focus on making Hellgate: London better and better while getting a realistic portrayal of London in the process.

Should we elect to serve ads, they must be approved by us, Flagship Studios. We would demand that they be in-context with the game world - aged, weathered, only shown in appropriate areas, just as the static posters you see in the Stations are now. We have no interest in putting giant, bright-white billboard in the middle of your battles or having you wield swords of Brand X Cola.

Finally, Hellgate: London and all of the online play and components are controlled by Flagship Studios and Ping0. We're all gamers here, and we're as sensitive to protecting our personal information as you are. This is why we have spent the past six months becoming a member of the ESRB Privacy Online certification program. This means that we're meeting the most rigorous standards in the industry for protecting your privacy and the information that you provide us.

We hope this helps address the concerns of our community.

See you online!


Source: http://www.hellgatelondon.com/underground/eula-explanation

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I just got my beta key... im thinking should i download the whole installer since beta is going to end soon?

Or is anyone living in KL/PJ area willing to be nice and burn me a copy? tongue.gif

I'll come collect it myself biggrin.gif

please PM me if you are feeling nice smile.gif
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Software Boutique just called me up. If we pay upfront for Hellgate: London (regardless of edition) we'll automatically get the preorder goodies! WOOT! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Software Boutique just called me up. If we pay upfront for Hellgate: London (regardless of edition) we'll automatically get the preorder goodies! WOOT!  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Nothing convinces me to buy the game. Not even the 'other' version. This is how much I think of the game after a week. And yes Beta > Demo. But the Demo is what I got. Nuff' said. I'll be forgetting this game.
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need help from beta player, i jus dl the beta ver but during the patch of hellgate map dx10 it keep on error with server, did any1 experiance the same thing ? thinking of testing it before getting the game

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Too bad you can't play this free online with new content.....only paying members get new equipments, content & etc....

I was disappointed when i read about it. I was hoping for a free play online or at least LAN option in the game but it has been removed.

Play online and be a 2nd class citizen online... oh well thats how it is i guess, everyone wants their pot of gold in P2P.

And these are the info..... i found out recently

Free Play-

- Does have customer support but it isn't 24/7 premium customer support. Being 'just an artist' I don't know all the specifics here.
- Can join guilds but can't found a guild or use guild officer functions.
- Can play with elite players in all areas of the game that come with the shipped game but not in new areas added post launch.
- Can not use 'elite' items. It should be noted that elite items are not more powerful/unbalanced items but rather have flashier appearances or simply new items that still fit in the overall balance scheme.
- Includes patching/balance updates. (in case that's not obvious)
- On the same secure servers as 'elite' players.

-Elite- (The paying customers)
- Regular content updates, small ones every month and large ones every three months.
(ie. new quests, dungeons, weapons, monsters, etc. that can only be accessed by elite players.)
- Elite content will access higher
- Can create guilds.
- 24/7 Cust. Supp.
- More character slots/larger shared stash
- Additional play modes, hardcore, pvp, rp, etc..
- Hopefully there will never be server ques but -if- there are then elites get priority.

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QUOTE(Orijin @ Oct 24 2007, 02:43 PM)
need help from beta player, i jus dl the beta ver but during the patch of hellgate map dx10 it keep on error with server, did any1 experiance the same thing ? thinking of testing it before getting the game
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Try uninstalling the beta. Remove all remaining folders left after uninstalling. Now reinstall the game and try patching
again.

QUOTE(garka @ Oct 24 2007, 04:34 PM)
Too bad you can't play this free online with new content.....only paying members get new equipments, content & etc....

I was disappointed when i read about it. I was hoping for a free play online or at least LAN option in the game but it has been removed.

Play online and be a 2nd class citizen online... oh well thats how it is i guess, everyone wants their pot of gold in P2P.

And these are the info..... i found out recently

Free Play-

- Does have customer support but it isn't 24/7 premium customer support. Being 'just an artist' I don't know all the specifics here.
- Can join guilds but can't found a guild or use guild officer functions.
- Can play with elite players in all areas of the game that come with the shipped game but not in new areas added post launch.
- Can not use 'elite' items. It should be noted that elite items are not more powerful/unbalanced items but rather have flashier appearances or simply new items that still fit in the overall balance scheme.
- Includes patching/balance updates. (in case that's not obvious)
- On the same secure servers as 'elite' players.

-Elite- (The paying customers)
- Regular content updates, small ones every month and large ones every three months.
(ie. new quests, dungeons, weapons, monsters, etc. that can only be accessed by elite players.)
- Elite content will access higher
- Can create guilds.
- 24/7 Cust. Supp.
- More character slots/larger shared stash
- Additional play modes, hardcore, pvp, rp, etc..
- Hopefully there will never be server ques but -if- there are then elites get priority.
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People have been playing Diablo 2 for years and the free online play is exactly the same as in Diablo 2. You get to play the same 5 Acts from the single player also in multiplayer with your friends. Level is capped at 50 for all players.
Take it for me, Act 1 to 3 is already huge and has alot of places to explore and quest in, no idea how big Act 4 or 5 are gonna be. After playing in normal mode, you can play in Nightmare mode if you want to and the levels are going to be a lot bigger.

FYI, PvP is opened to all players. PvP has both dueling and free for all PvP. Recently, they've even announced that Achievements is opened to free to play accounts.

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QUOTE(Games For Windows @ Oct 24 2007, 02:40 PM)
Nothing convinces me to buy the game. Not even the 'other' version. This is how much I think of the game after a week. And yes Beta > Demo. But the Demo is what I got. Nuff' said. I'll be forgetting this game.
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Well .. good for you thumbup.gif
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So basically we need to pay monthly fee if we want the elite version? Sound crap eh.
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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ Oct 24 2007, 10:49 PM)
Well .. good for you thumbup.gif
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Looks like someone is buying this game... whistling.gif
E peto shey !!
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this game is like FPS or 'point and click diablo/neverwinter' or oblivion/WOW style?


Added on October 25, 2007, 4:34 amsince it is fighting aliens, what weapon to use? swords or gun? i dun like guns. any loot to collect in inventory?

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QUOTE(woopypooky @ Oct 25 2007, 04:32 AM)
this game is like FPS or 'point and click diablo/neverwinter' or oblivion/WOW style?


Added on October 25, 2007, 4:34 amsince it is fighting aliens, what weapon to use? swords or gun? i dun like guns. any loot to collect in inventory?
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Got my beta key last night, hope to enjoy the last 2 days of beta...Damn it, I would enjoy my valueable time of beta... cry.gif cry.gif

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QUOTE(woopypooky @ Oct 25 2007, 04:32 AM)
this game is like FPS or 'point and click diablo/neverwinter' or oblivion/WOW style?


Added on October 25, 2007, 4:34 amsince it is fighting aliens, what weapon to use? swords or gun? i dun like guns. any loot to collect in inventory?
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This game can be either a FPS/RPG and a 3rd person/RPG. The style is a mixture of Oblivion/Diablo2 and WOW.

Is not exactly fighting aliens, its demons. The character will be able to use both sword and also guns as weapons depends on the class that u chosen. The loot concept is the same as Diablo 2, thats rare, enchance, legendary items and some items also need to be identify same as Diablo 2.

Hope this helps.
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Paid for my collector's edition copy today with help from my good buddy. Only thing that I don't understand is why are we not allowed to choose our dye kit? According to TSB, IAH will e-mail the code for a random dye kit to us. Eh? I hope I don't get Kung Fu Bunny! sweat.gif

For those who are buying the game, see you in London! After Nov 1st that is...lol!
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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ Oct 25 2007, 07:35 AM)
This game can be either a FPS/RPG and a 3rd person/RPG. The style is a mixture of Oblivion/Diablo2 and WOW.

Is not exactly fighting aliens, its demons. The character will be able to use both sword and also guns as weapons depends on the class that u chosen. The loot concept is the same as Diablo 2, thats rare, enchance, legendary items and some items also need to be identify same as Diablo 2.

Hope this helps.
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wah, if it is like that, i sure wan to play it. when it will be out release?
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wah, if it is like that, i sure wan to play it. when it will be out release?
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i going to make advance pmt this saturday.

i tot we can choose the dye kit ourselves? no ah?... shit...... i reali hope i wont get tat greenly color.
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I managed to get a beta key and found myself hooked to it for hours. It really feels very much like Diablo II and i really enjoyed partying with other people when exploring the maps. I really don't understand why so many people are slamming the game.

Sure it might not to appeal to EVERYONE but it still is better than alot of other MMOG's which are out there in the market.

Would i get this game based on the beta? yes...yes...YES!

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one of the game that i will surely buy beside jericho, cod4, crysis & gow..been eagerly waiting for it for 1 year already..hehe, but unsure how will my rig handle the game tho tongue.gif

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=p The demo is sweet and meeting up with various people ala Diablo style is great. On your own the mish's seem to get a little grinding but i think when the full version comes out it'll be pretty good.
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QUOTE(Araes @ Oct 24 2007, 08:05 PM)
Try uninstalling the beta. Remove all remaining folders left after uninstalling. Now reinstall the game and try patching
again.
People have been playing Diablo 2 for years and the free online play is exactly the same as in Diablo 2. You get to play the same 5 Acts from the single player also in multiplayer with your friends. Level is capped at 50 for all players.
Take it for me, Act 1 to 3 is already huge and has alot of places to explore and quest in, no idea how big Act 4 or 5 are gonna be. After playing in normal mode, you can play in Nightmare mode if you want to and the levels are going to be a lot bigger.

FYI, PvP is opened to all players. PvP has both dueling and free for all PvP. Recently, they've even announced that Achievements is opened to free to play accounts.
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try it last nite n it work, thx thumbup.gif
but sumhow the game play respond few sec late, mayb due to my internet connection. dono u guys got experiance this or not but i really hope the full version able to solve this problem

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QUOTE(elise_MOL @ Oct 25 2007, 01:29 PM)
I managed to get a beta key and found myself hooked to it for hours. It really feels very much like Diablo II and i really enjoyed partying with other people when exploring the maps. I really don't understand why so many people are slamming the game.

Sure it might not to appeal to EVERYONE but it still is better than alot of other MMOG's which are out there in the market.

Would i get this game based on the beta? yes...yes...YES!
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Well mostly gamers give bad review based on the singleplayer demo, not the multiplayer beta.

I myself tried the demo and it doesn't feel great at all.
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I've just installed and run the beta, and i must say, its GREAT biggrin.gif
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hey i played the demo, i think it is quite OK (graphically). not as bad as most ppl said. man, this isn't FPS, as long as you do not expect any gorgeous graphics, the game is ok. wont be game of the year tho. hahaha...

so far i see lousy AI, weird grenade...
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Paid for my collector's edition copy today with help from my good buddy. Only thing that I don't understand is why are we not allowed to choose our dye kit? According to TSB, IAH will e-mail the code for a random dye kit to us. Eh? I hope I don't get Kung Fu Bunnysweat.gif

For those who are buying the game, see you in London! After Nov 1st that is...lol!
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I paid for my collector's edition too .
Just in case , if you get the Kung Fu Bunny dye kit , i would like to trade with you if i am not getting Kung Fu bunny dye kit , haha .
IAHGames send us code right ? So we might be able to switch it before retrieving the dye kit right ?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellgate:_London

PC Gamer recently gave Hellgate:London an 69 out of 100. Its cited reasons for the low score were its lack of solid and fresh take on the Diablo gameplay style. The review also pointed out the lack of a solid single player or story and the murky future of the subscription service.

nay.. its 89, great score. must be vandals. no citation though..

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QUOTE(Quincy @ Oct 26 2007, 12:13 AM)
Well mostly gamers give bad review based on the singleplayer demo, not the multiplayer beta.

I myself tried the demo and it doesn't feel great at all.
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I got my code for the beta about 3 days ago and before that I tried the demo already. I must say the gameplay in the demo is a bit dry, as the demo was really poor compared to the beta. But after trying out the beta, I really enjoyed the more complete game, especially the monsters were already is more flavors right from the beginning, random generated maps etc... I really have confidence that HellGate London can get us addicted like Diablo 2. That said, I must mention that in this case, the demo's standard is really poor, like some last minute decision or something. But still, there is quite a number of bugs still obvious in the beta, hopes they manage to clean out all the bugs before release.

Another things that I noticed, is although the graphics are not as great as many recent FPS games, it could be a plus point as well because when we play multiplayer, it could help to ensure that the gameplay will still be smooth and not laggy - think many players fighting many monsters, and everybody using some spectacular skills like in Diabo 2 at the same time in the same game on the same screen. Thus the game could be made so to be easier on our PCs and could be enjoyed by more people with not so high specs PCs, like the Diablo series??
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In regards of whether or not this game will be worth your money or on the other extreme waste your effort of even trying the game; It's entirely up to that individual to try it out and have a feel for him/herself. Everyone has a fair share of giving their own opinions on this game, just trying to point out to those people who've yet to set their eyes and have an unbiased opinion on it; to have an open mind about this game and try it yourself first.

We all know any games out there (not just MMOs) have their own game development life cycles (Alpha > Beta > CBT > OBT > Final). So often people crucified games before it is able to show it's full potential and gaming power to the gaming community. We all like the term "See before Touch", keeps us safe but often enough that does not suffice and we fall back on relying on other people's experiences and stand firm to their believes without having a go with their opinions.

HGL is still in it's infancy stage and has yet to blossom fully to what Flagship Studios wants it to be. If the makers of Diablo 1 & 2 can blow our feet away with their prior titles, i'm sure they can do the same with this, just give them time.

FYI, i did try the game itself and i honestly think there's more room for development but i kept in mind that this is a "MMO/Single Player Demo" and probably from the Beta stages of the game development. So yeah, I'm still eager for the official content from Flagship Studios thumbup.gif


Cheers, just my 2 cents on Flagship Studios.

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QUOTE(YooNJuN @ Oct 26 2007, 12:14 AM)
I paid for my collector's edition too .
Just in case , if you get the Kung Fu Bunny dye kit , i would like to trade with you if i am not getting Kung Fu bunny dye kit , haha .
IAHGames send us code right ? So we might be able to switch it before retrieving the dye kit right ?
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I think you only get to see the dye kit after keying in the code from IAHGames, which in this case might mean it's locked to your account forever? I would much prefer that IAHGames gave us a choice though.

QUOTE(Games For Windows @ Oct 26 2007, 05:23 AM)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellgate:_London

PC Gamer recently gave Hellgate:London an 69 out of 100. Its cited reasons for the low score were its lack of solid and fresh take on the Diablo gameplay style. The review also pointed out the lack of a solid single player or story and the murky future of the subscription service.

nay.. its 89, great score. must be vandals. no citation though..
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Yeah it's 89. I've been through the mag and can confirm the score. biggrin.gif
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The beta has been extended. It will end at 3am(local time) Saturday instead of 1am. There will be a short interuption(disconnects or lag) at 12am for 30 mins to test the database servers.
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Sorry Araes, didn't post screenshot last night or the night before, busy these days.

2 screenshots: one is depth of field(blur at background), the other is when you move your camera fast, you will get motion blur effects.


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QUOTE(Araes @ Oct 22 2007, 04:01 PM)
Not really surprised about the quality of the demo. FSS is really in a crunch mode & busy finishing the game for the 31st release date & also with the beta. They must haven't had time to make a proper demo. What they should have done is not release a demo at all like what Assasin's Creed team has done or release one once the game is released
Nope, I'm not in the Act 4 & 5 extended beta. That portion is still under strict NDA. Actually, I'm glad I'm not in it, don't want to spoil the entire game before it comes out. Act 1 - 3 is enough. smile.gif

Final batch of screens coming!
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Good screenies, thanks for sharing.

Guess it'll be scanning my eyes for this game. I'll skip the preorder and wait to see the general response once its release. Its a pity i cant spend much time playing the beta, with exams and all. I didnt even managed to try out partying yet lol.

Its a pity the demo really blew it for FSS, but i can forsee things will pick up again once its released and the damage will be fixed. The large damage they receive from the subpar demo was largely because it was a very very hyped game and in everyone's wishlist. Anyway, it could be good, with people canceling their preorder and all. Perhaps the servers wont crash dead on the first few weeks from the sudden influx of gamers tongue.gif
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Okay, before i commit to this game. I would like to ask you guys. blink.gif

Today i went to software boutique, they had the collectors edition nicely displayed in the front counter. However i also noticed that it has the IAH symbol on it...........

On Play-asia thay are selling the US version for RM164. RM 30 more then the local release. So which 1 would you guys get. Is there a region block on either of this versions. Plus they have comfirmed with me that it will be in at the end of the month. biggrin.gif

With the recent complaints on IAH i realy don't want to have to buy it yet until i know its safe for the gamers to put their hard earn money into the local version. Plus with the recent news about how Flagship wants to review their charge rates really gets me thinking twice.

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maintenance is like every 4 hrs or so sleep.gif, keep maintenence non stop. I cant seem to play properly

Sigh, not sure if i want to get this if it keeps happening like that.

btw, its on maintenence now agai sleep.gif
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Current info.

US version = US and/or EU server
EU version = EU and/or US server
SEA verision = SEA server only

Won't decide for you though, you have to weight the ups and downs of going either US or SEA version.

About the server maintenance, FSS probably is tweaking and preping for the launch(and also the halloween prelaunch beta for preorder people for a head start while waiting for their game to arrive via shipping).
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hellgate out already???
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Halloween, which means next week.
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1 noob question. This game can play online? If can I may consider to buy ori.
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Online lvling or online pvp?
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QUOTE(meetxj9 @ Oct 27 2007, 01:29 PM)
Okay, before i commit to this game. I would like to ask you guys. blink.gif

Today i went to software boutique, they had the collectors edition nicely displayed in the front counter. However i also noticed that it has the IAH symbol on it...........

On Play-asia thay are selling the US version for RM164. RM 30 more then the local release. So which 1 would you guys get. Is there a region block on either of this versions. Plus they have comfirmed with me that it will be in at the end of the month. biggrin.gif

With the recent complaints on IAH i realy don't want to have to buy it yet until i know its safe for the gamers to put their hard earn money into the local version. Plus with the recent news about how Flagship wants to review their charge rates really gets me thinking twice.
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What? Hellgate is out at TSB? I thought the release was coinciding with the US release, either on 31st or 1st.

I don't really know about IAH or the level of customer service. I don't really care though, for me 5 Acts(between 35-50 hours playtime) and 50 lvls is more than enough for me. Not to mention achievements, pvp and nightmare mode could keep me occupied for a long time. One things for sure IAH only runs the servers and customer service, Flagship still handles all the stuff that goes in the game from patches, bug fixes to Subscriber content.

I like this quote...especially the 'auction houses'. Who says free to play account holders don't get stuff!
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Those who purchase the game will automatically have the option to play through the whole story campaign in single player, which according to Roper should take a gamer anywhere from 35-50 hours. Retail purchase will also entitle players to partner up with buddies and kick Hell's ass up and down Tottenham Court Road without having to open their wallets. Regular players can also expect to get regular patch updates along with some other content updates for the community at large such as auction houses.

Source: Hellgate into the Future

QUOTE(XaVieRGizmo @ Oct 27 2007, 01:49 PM)
maintenance is like every 4 hrs or so sleep.gif, keep maintenence non stop. I cant seem to play properly

Sigh, not sure if i want to get this if it keeps happening like that.

btw, its on maintenence now agai sleep.gif
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Beta is finally over. thumbup.gif I had a great time testing for 3 months from multiple alpha builds to the multiple beta builds. Must've downloaded over 15GBs of alpha/beta clients in total. sweat.gif

My favourite NPC is definately Lucious Adlin mainly because his quips are pure comedy gold. Someone in Flagship must really be into comic books. Gorilla Grodd..rofl. laugh.gif
There also this vendor in Oxford Station that curses like a drunken sailor & not to mention Mackenzie and his 'family' problem. lol.

I also found an Easter egg of sorts during my journey in London. See this pic.
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I played the final beta build last night after they patched it. I was surprised to find how smooth the game was overall. It was lot more smoother in the stations for one, before it used be jerky in certain parts. They also improved the chat system and added in subscriber content as a preview. There was also some changes to the npc voice.

The very final beta pics...promise...tongue.gif (Pics of the new chat & subscriber content)

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Come 31st(or 1st) I'm going to London.




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I juz scared in future some player may use editor or cheat while online, which make the whole games unbalanced.
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Both. There is online PvE & online PvP.

QUOTE(zeustronic @ Oct 27 2007, 11:39 PM)
I juz scared in future some player may use editor or cheat while online, which make the whole games unbalanced.
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Not so sure, unless they are good at hacking the secure servers. All the characters are stored on the servers. Even then Flagship has the abilty to scan the client comps for any hack or cheats.

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Is this hellgate london EA got Cyber Cafe license in Malaysia?
don't know local is EA or SMM

i personal will buy Collector Edition
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somehow by looking at the screenshots posted by several beta-testers makes me feel that the game graphics looks quite similar to Kotor II and NwN2...
and to be honest, i'm not a really a big fan of Kotor2 and NwN2...
the graphic looks kinda cartoonish...

Diablo and Diablo2 - Yes, i am a big fan of these two games...
so i do hope that every beta-testers review about this game being diablo-ish in its environment/gameplay holds true...

else...it's gonna be my another waste of investment in ori game..

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Im going to LONDON .. woohoo rclxm9.gif
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too bad no money to buiy this game when it lunch will try to buy it after hear u guy review on the game sad.gif
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I'm going to see if i can get myself a collectors addition. Only 2 more days to sign up!!!!

If i remember correctly it's supposed to be launched this wednesday in Singapore. I don't know if there is going to be a local launch but the closest we'll get to any major release party is Singapore.

http://hellgate.iahgames.com/splash/invite_221007.html

=((

Maybe i can take a couple of days off work and make my way down to steal a couple of copies for myself. mmmmm final screenshots look good. Total pwnage.

Remember gentlemen (and ladies =p) It's time to go to London. I'll see you in the underground.



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The leaked full version already available in the *AHEM* network. Nice tryout though, better than the Beta.
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Just called Software boutique, and they said that Hellgate London will definately be in store on Wednesday this week. rclxms.gif
I'm really getting the itchy, there are more then 1 new title coming on that day. Unreal 3 is also good. Will be getting the normal version but still have doubts about the game. But considering what the beta players have been saying, i guess i will risk RM 139.00 to see what Flagship reallyt have been doing all this time.
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Hehe, juz paid deposit for 2 copies of collector's edition at The Software Botique. Will be collecting the game tomorrow after 1pm!! (staff says collect after 1pm) Can't wait to lay my hands on the game - now removing more than 10GB space to ensure smooth installation, haha
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Heard the Hellgate London demo wasn't really that great from other forums generally speaking.
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demo sucked
but those beta players say it's better than the demo
anyway, do u guys think tsb will stock a large copy of collector edition?
cos i preordered it, then cancelled it after playing the demo
but seeing beta reviews, might consider buying it again
but tsb site can't seems to be accessed right now
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ya the demo really A HUGE disappointment!!!!.....b4 that saw the picture n trailer the game really look good......but..when play.......it really feel kinda boring...of the gameplay.....also....the FPS mode..in tis game SUCKED!!!....

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demo sucked
but those beta players say it's better than the demo
anyway, do u guys think tsb will stock a large copy of collector edition?
cos i preordered it, then cancelled it after playing the demo
but seeing beta reviews, might consider buying it again
but tsb site can't seems to be accessed right now
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QUOTE(commanderz @ Oct 30 2007, 02:25 PM)
ya the demo really A HUGE disappointment!!!!.....b4 that saw the picture n trailer the game really look good......but..when play.......it really feel kinda boring...of the gameplay.....also....the FPS mode..in tis game SUCKED!!!....
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I played the demo before and I would say that the demo is really quite bland, if that's the word to use. But i did managed to get into the beta and upon playing the beta, i really enjoyed the game right from the start, especially the random features. I also agree that the FPS mode sucks, keeping in mind the recent FPS hits we have, but remembering these game is supposed to be fast-paced, Diablo-like, meaning it is not supposed to be a real hardcore FPS game in the first place. Instead the game should play fast and enjoyable just like Diablo in the areas where it should truly shine - multiplayer, enjoyable skill tree, random maps, killing/demolishing lots and lots of monsters, engaging boss fights, great story to carry the game along, screens full of people using special skills, plus the new addition of numerous modern weaponary combinations you can use in the game and so on and so on... Anyway, my point is that after playing the demo and the Beta, I feel HellGate Lodon is a real worthy game that you should go for. Another thing that should strengthen your decision to buy would be the numerous released gameplay screenshots, trailers and beta reviews posted throughout the net.

Cheers to HellGate London and may it bring us the joy that the Diablo series brought to us!!

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ya u have a point......hope the full game really not the bad.....but still.....i c nth like diablo.....
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8.9/10 from US PC Gamer Magazine
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Just found out .. tomolo HGL will be arriving at TSB around 1pm. Cya there smile.gif
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Actually they already have it from what I heard, just that they need to follow the rules of international release.
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Actually they already have it from what I heard, just that they need to follow the rules of international release.
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I was told the price is $139/$179(collector ed)
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QUOTE(dopp @ Oct 30 2007, 10:03 PM)
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Check this out ... its hilarious. Intel's Hellgate London Ad.



and this too ...

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got the game ady :

pics up:
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Is this game good???
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common...some full version review/hands on!!
dun forget some nice screenies.
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Juz back from The Software Botique at SS2.

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Here are the items in a single Collector's Edition Hellgate London

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Alright, going to start installing now, c u guys.
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where ah? where got sell this goodies? biggrin.gif
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Argh, i pre-oredered from tsb and asked them to send through postal to my house. But i stilll haven't got mine. Anyone got from tsb through postage already so far ?
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Regretted didn't preorder from tsb, i preorder directly from IAH instead sleep.gif
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just got my copy toooo. !!! smile.gif
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just got my copy toooo. !!! smile.gif
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i see. Good to hear that, enjoy the game. Meanwhile, ill be waiting for the post mad.gif
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Arghh!! Unable to complete installation of Hellgate London, can anybody plz help? Did played demo and beta before no problem, not sure how come now got problem...

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