I stayed in Damai since 2008. I think it's the best neighborhood around. It is individual title and not strata tiles as you mentioned. SP Setia actually illegally sold it as though it is a gated and guarded to the equivalent of Eco Park back then due to the loose law in grey areas. However, due to a very good percentage of paying residents (probably the highest in KV) on maintenance fees (only less than 5 fingers out of 800 houses has outstanding), the taman is properly maintained as gated and guarded given rights to do so by MBSA. There a lot of professional and business owner staying inside and also retired old folks. So, the environment is much better with very little units rented out. I worked from home so I can't comment much on the traffic but I do noticed since the opening of DASH highway, the NKVE is usable again. Damai and Setia Utama 2 are on higher ground and not affected by flood directly but there are parts of Setia Alam that is affected. However, with the recent steps on re-digging all the water retention ponds and redoing the road side water outlet, I do think it will be less severe if the big flood happens again. Bukit Raja too is constructing a new water retention pond, so we can hope for better. All 3 Damai (14,15 and 16) has a very good track record on security. The few breaches over the span of 15 years are mostly internal (maid in cahoot with outsider, renovation workers) and nothing major. Damai 15 and 16 has the best bang for bucks maintenance and security fee at RM143 and Damai 14 at RM200 (last I heard). From these fees, you get proper company running the show and doing landscaping. So it's not just security. We like it here so much to the point of getting ourself a 2nd unit few months ago.

Setia Damai 14,15,16 is not strata title. Renovate all you want. Benefit? High ground, security so far so good. Paying residents rate high

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Dec 27 2022, 11:15 AM

setia alam is a good place to stay?

Good if you prefer to get all necessary things without going out of setia alam (there is mall, hardware shop, grocery, restaurant etc).

How many times you wanna ask? Lol buy subang d still got buyers remorse or what?

Eco park is illegally sold as gated as well then?

The law now stated that it has to be strata title for it to be gated and guarded. I'm not sure how Eco Park goes around this. As it stands, majority of Eco Park is individual title but the newer (Arundina section) is strata title. This is one of the reason why Eco Ardence is strata title units.

Notice alot of houses in setia alam there's basically no maintenance at all, roads and parks are littered with leaves and even dumped old furnitures. Problem with non strata title properties, no one cares esp if resident committee is weak

It is generally like that in Malaysia. Setia Damai is the one of the few and rare exception due to very high paying ratio of owners.

This post has been edited by contagiouseddie: Jan 16 2023, 09:13 AM

Individual titled SEP G&G is inherited from the developer's built intend from the very 1st phase ie district18 (tropika) then till the later phases.

Most importantly it is sustainable till today because of "like minded" amongst owners in this neighbourhood here, well managed resident commitee, collective of high responsible paying residents.

Responsible "like minded" residents in a neighbourhood don't need a governing strata title act to make things work

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jan 17 2023, 02:20 PM

You are right. It works perfectly especially in project like Eco Park as they are all like minded people that wanted the best for the place. In Damai, there's currently 1 court case where the owner doesn't want to pay the maintenance fees and the court case is still pending. This owner is trying to take advantage of the grey area of these non-strata title ownership. But despite this, MBSA has been granting the stay of the G&G status until today due to the fact close to 100% of owner is paying. I think Eco Ardence is afraid such cases could arise, hence they went with the strata approach.

Partly true but mainly for a different brand name and the act itself (timing) passed in parliement.

Ecoworld's all other landed in malaysia are strata title. Liew gotta be different setting up ecoworld brand name upon his departure from setia.

No point rolling out the same selling concept/ products he once built in setia. It gotta be different for ppl to buy his, specially his land is adjacent to setia's to begin with.

His landbank then are mostly an extention of setia's existing township (originally sort at a later stage for its ongoing setia township but not transfer/close deal yet)

Example, if i remember correctly, eco ardence land is not part of the master piece he bought from SeeHoyChan for SAlam township back then.

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jan 17 2023, 03:52 PM

Ur case u only can buy 1 unit,so u only concern 1 time after u brought 1 unit, for me,i can buy few unit. So i asked.

Shallow. My primary can cover few of yours provided if you have them. Don't even need to mention my additionals.

You buying a second unit (which is very likely an investment) and asking questions like that in a forum? Joker, you make my day. No wonder nobody replies you after awhile.

Bro no offence but you been here since 2016 so such question is very weird if it's coming from you

It is good to have like minded residents staying in your area making the "G&G status" possible. But there is no guarantee that in the future your neighbours will continue to be like minded. People leave this world, sell and move out and new owners come in. The new folks may not be like minded. Therefore it is always better to go for strata title if that's what you must have as the status is protected by law and the management can sue to enforce.

No doubt, enforcement is clear and effective with the strata title act.

Hi, i am the owner of Setia Bywater Conicus. I would like to join the owner WhatsApp group

Admin please pm me, thanks!

Hi all

I’ve created a whatsapp groupchat for Setia Utama 3, Bywater

If you are an owner/ tenant, you may join

Do PM me your contact number and i shall add you

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