QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 27 2016, 10:04 PM)
When i was thr. Can only say its really mot the type of ppl u want as neighbors. This was 2 months back.
adakah dia ph?Setia Alam V2, Township project in Shah Alam
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Dec 27 2016, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(heavensea @ Dec 27 2016, 08:09 AM) Nope. Night pic of trefail. I feel occupancy has passed 30% by rough estimation la as u many ppl r not at home etc. if purely based on pic, maybe 5% hehe. My estimate is based on clothes hang n rough feel la.This post has been edited by Babizz: Dec 28 2016, 09:07 AM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Dec 27 2016, 10:13 PM
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Dec 27 2016, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(heavensea @ Dec 27 2016, 08:13 AM) Bro, but at RM650 per month (verified), its very cheap la hence attracting the type of base that it has. After all this trefail was launched at 250k in 2011 and transacting at 250k to 290k now. Coupled with costs associated with buying soxo like upfront progressive payment, gst , maintenance etc, many owners are losing big time i believe. Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Dec 27 2016, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 27 2016, 11:04 PM) Bro, but at RM650 per month (verified), its very cheap la hence attracting the type of base that it has. After all this trefail was launched at 250k in 2011 and transacting at 250k to 290k now. Coupled with costs associated with buying soxo like upfront progressive payment, gst , maintenance etc, many owners are losing big time i believe. omg from 2011 to 2016 net lose. w. t. f. |
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Dec 27 2016, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 27 2016, 11:04 PM) Bro, but at RM650 per month (verified), its very cheap la hence attracting the type of base that it has. After all this trefail was launched at 250k in 2011 and transacting at 250k to 290k now. Coupled with costs associated with buying soxo like upfront progressive payment, gst , maintenance etc, many owners are losing big time i believe. The launching price is already super high, thats y now price stagnant, not that the product no good..at 590 psf, that is like kl, gombak price already..so not bad for current market conditions..the only losers are the current owner.. |
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Dec 27 2016, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(sam59 @ Dec 27 2016, 11:26 PM) The launching price is already super high, thats y now price stagnant, not that the product no good..at 590 psf, that is like kl, gombak price already..so not bad for current market conditions..the only losers are the current owner.. not sure what ur point of view is... but props for investment are a numbers game. so what if the product look good etc etc but lose money during the years when most people doubled their portfolios? it didnt perform its duty or expectation which imo makes it: bad product. |
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Dec 28 2016, 12:00 AM
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Agree, no matter how good the product is if overpriced it's bad product.
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Dec 28 2016, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ Dec 27 2016, 11:34 PM) not sure what ur point of view is... but props for investment are a numbers game. so what if the product look good etc etc but lose money during the years when most people doubled their portfolios? it didnt perform its duty or expectation which imo makes it: bad product. What i am trying to say is that, the development itself in terms of concept, quality, maintenance etc is not bad at all. It is not that SPS has produced a bad product. The buyer, if he is a homeowner, buying for stay may not regret it. But for investors, it may not be good as they are not making money out of it. Not everybody is buying to invest. |
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Dec 28 2016, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(klangvalleyrookie @ Dec 27 2016, 10:00 AM) Bro, do u have an indication of the occupancy? got 30% u think? QUOTE(sam59 @ Dec 27 2016, 06:36 PM) What i am trying to say is that, the development itself in terms of concept, quality, maintenance etc is not bad at all. It is not that SPS has produced a bad product. The buyer, if he is a homeowner, buying for stay may not regret it. But for investors, it may not be good as they are not making money out of it. Not everybody is buying to invest. even if u purchase for ownstay, u would like to see cap gain that matches the market or at least inflation right? U dont wana stay in a place tht will consistently cost RM270k for many yrs. I think it also proves the point of SPS being weak in highrise. |
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Dec 28 2016, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 28 2016, 09:10 AM) Bro, do u have an indication of the occupancy? got 30% u think? besides that, u dont want to stay in empty condo or with bad neighbours. and anyway if some people feel happy buying overprice product...owell what can i say.even if u purchase for ownstay, u would like to see cap gain that matches the market or at least inflation right? U dont wana stay in a place tht will consistently cost RM270k for many yrs. I think it also proves the point of SPS being weak in highrise. |
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Dec 28 2016, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 28 2016, 09:10 AM) Bro, do u have an indication of the occupancy? got 30% u think? Well it is my words against yours..nobody is right or wrong..different people different opinion..my view is that the price stay stagnant is not because the development is no good that people dont want to buy..it is just that the current market value is already high amid the soft market conditions..even if u purchase for ownstay, u would like to see cap gain that matches the market or at least inflation right? U dont wana stay in a place tht will consistently cost RM270k for many yrs. I think it also proves the point of SPS being weak in highrise. |
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Dec 28 2016, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 28 2016, 09:10 AM) Am not too certain on occupancy, could be around 20-30% kua..... But it's good for current residents cuz can enjoy 'low dense' living, lol...Btw, can't agree subsale price stagnant shows sps not good in high rise. For this case, it's was more about product being sold at inflated price since beginning. Not much meat left for investor. This post has been edited by klangvalleyrookie: Dec 28 2016, 09:54 AM |
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Dec 28 2016, 10:24 AM
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if you bought into 1st block, still ok de......block C yes super overpriced.
anywhere trefoil is sovo....for ownstay need plenty of money for reno...I believe majority owners are for rent nia....... rental around 700 to 850 per month....not sure if it goes up or down by now..... |
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Dec 28 2016, 10:36 AM
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aiya, still claim high..anyway occupancy rate wont be high la..so many options around there and with many hold and see rumahselangorku etc...
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Dec 28 2016, 05:19 PM
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building fast for the audi 3s centre
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Dec 28 2016, 08:32 PM
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Trefoil subsale price now around 300k for the smallest 486sf unit. Rent about 750-850 for partial furnished, for the smallest unit too.
cheapest unit from developer was around 24xK, it came with DIBS last time. This post has been edited by Vector88: Dec 28 2016, 08:34 PM |
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Dec 28 2016, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(klangvalleyrookie @ Dec 28 2016, 09:47 AM) Am not too certain on occupancy, could be around 20-30% kua..... But it's good for current residents cuz can enjoy 'low dense' living, lol... is the service apartment selling at inflated price?Btw, can't agree subsale price stagnant shows sps not good in high rise. For this case, it's was more about product being sold at inflated price since beginning. Not much meat left for investor. |
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QUOTE(kswong77 @ Dec 28 2016, 10:18 PM) The serviced apartment is selling at circa 6xx psf. Currently, new landed in P11 & P17 is selling around 3xx psf, subsale price of seri series apartment is 3xx psf.For further reference, the 1st batch of seri series apartments, i.e., Jati & Baiduri, was launched at 2xx psf. During that time, new landed in SA was selling at 3xx psf, trefoil was selling at 5xx psf. I'll let u make judgement whether the serviced apartment is overpriced or not. |
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QUOTE(klangvalleyrookie @ Dec 29 2016, 12:32 AM) The serviced apartment is selling at circa 6xx psf. Currently, new landed in P11 & P17 is selling around 3xx psf, subsale price of seri series apartment is 3xx psf. the facility given at trefiol is different, locationwise also different, you cannot compare like thatFor further reference, the 1st batch of seri series apartments, i.e., Jati & Baiduri, was launched at 2xx psf. During that time, new landed in SA was selling at 3xx psf, trefoil was selling at 5xx psf. I'll let u make judgement whether the serviced apartment is overpriced or not. |
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