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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.10, Please Read Post #1 & #2

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yygo
post Oct 16 2015, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(kimmo88 @ Oct 15 2015, 08:59 PM)
Another alternative option to bc is to do online IBG transfer 0.11cents per transfer?  Much cheaper than bc.  tongue.gif
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provided instruction to bank is into sa after maturity, fund <10k. most bank ibg/ibft <10k/day.

if >10k susah lah. laugh.gif
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post Oct 16 2015, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(yygo @ Oct 16 2015, 09:22 AM)
provided instruction to bank is into sa after maturity, fund <10k. most bank ibg/ibft <10k/day.

if >10k susah lah. laugh.gif
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I think vip customer no problem. Non vip customer might not be able to enjoy that privilege (into another bank's account) but if put into same bank account, no problem. Just tell the bank worker credit principal + interest into sa upon maturity when placing of FD
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post Oct 16 2015, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 16 2015, 09:28 AM)
I think vip customer no problem. Non vip customer might not be able to enjoy that privilege (into another bank's account) but if put into same bank account, no problem. Just tell the bank worker credit principal + interest into sa upon maturity when placing of FD
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dr ram, you mixed up this with vip customer. laugh.gif nothing to do with vip customer.

even vip customer also cannot ask bank to bank fd+interst into another bank acct. so far only mbsb can bank interest into another bank acct (no need to be vip customer of mbsb laugh.gif )

the point is >10k like 50k, then have to do ibg everyday for 5 days (total 5 days) from home laugh.gif

This post has been edited by yygo: Oct 16 2015, 10:08 AM
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post Oct 16 2015, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(yygo @ Oct 16 2015, 09:57 AM)
dr ram, you mixed up this with vip customer. laugh.gif nothing to do with vip customer.

even vip customer also cannot ask bank to bank fd+interst into another bank acct. so far only mbsb can bank interest into another bank acct (no need to be vip customer of mbsb laugh.gif )

the point is >10k like 50k, then have to do ibg 5 times per day from home laugh.gif
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You can actually do it manually. Go to bank and uplift and then transfer over the counter
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post Oct 16 2015, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 16 2015, 10:00 AM)
You can actually do it manually. Go to bank and uplift and then transfer over the counter
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this discussion base on doing ibg instead of buying bc (do not let bank squeeze you laugh.gif ).

what is the point go to bank, then might as well buy bc. petrol, time wasted. brows.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif

This post has been edited by yygo: Oct 16 2015, 10:04 AM
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post Oct 16 2015, 10:22 AM

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i think some forumer need to understand the issue discussed before commenting. also do not assume unless have better knowledge of how bank works. wrong info passed around. doh.gif
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post Oct 16 2015, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 16 2015, 01:23 AM)
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls

MBSB 4.7% + TS 2.8% vs AMB 4.55% +TS 2.8%  rclxms.gif 
Minimum amount here = RM10k

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AMB = AMbank
TS 2.8 = Truesavers
EIR = Effective Interest rates

From here we can see that even with monthly interest, Ambank 4.55% still lose out to MBSB 4.7%.  MBSB is still the champ here.  However notice that the EIR of MBSB only increase 0.30943% while AMB increases by 0.32766% which shows that you could get more money if there is say a FD able to give you 4.7% monthly interest.  smile.gif.

yygo is right. If we put 1 year FD with the interest, the EIR can go up further.  rclxms.gif But that can only be done from 2nd year onwards (Starting amount of RM10k). Unless one starts off with RM100,000.  icon_idea.gif

I didn't include in the last month interest of TS of the 5th year as I assume the FD will pay the interest at the end of the month. So if we would like to see the last month interest, we need to go another year. I used 2016 as it is easier to count.

By the way, aeiou228 how come your EIR is 5.23% Vs 5.10 while mine is only 5.00943% vs 4.87766%?  hmm.gif Your method is add to principal to get the EIR of 5.23% Vs 5.10%?

This is the first time I am calculating this kind of things. Any mistakes please correct me. notworthy.gif
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post Oct 16 2015, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Oct 16 2015, 11:09 AM)
Wah.. Super job..  thumbup.gif
But I cannot enlarge the picture.... sad.gif
Can you upload one more time by adding attachment file (Add This Attachment) which is already provided in this forum?  Thanks  notworthy.gif
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Just right click on the picture and click open image in new tab. smile.gif I am outside right now.
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post Oct 16 2015, 11:40 AM

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Is there any bank that upon closing of FD exactly on maturity date claims that final interest will not be paid unless uplift on maturity date + 1 day. I think this bank is trying to spin some story here.

If no, then I am about to reveal an underhanded practise of a bank that does that exactly to theit FD customer.
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QUOTE(lowya @ Oct 16 2015, 11:40 AM)
Is there any bank that upon closing of FD exactly on maturity date claims that final interest will not be paid unless uplift on maturity date + 1 day. I think this bank is trying to spin some story here.

If no, then I am about to reveal an underhanded practise of a bank that does that exactly to theit FD customer.
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some banks are using outdated system which requires to credit interest manually after 5pm, therefore, you have to wait for another day, i can bear with it.
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QUOTE(lowya @ Oct 16 2015, 11:40 AM)
Is there any bank that upon closing of FD exactly on maturity date claims that final interest will not be paid unless uplift on maturity date + 1 day. I think this bank is trying to spin some story here.

If no, then I am about to reveal an underhanded practise of a bank that does that exactly to theit FD customer.
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the one thing that you didnt mention is which bank you're referring?

else, how would others with same fd/bank can comment? smile.gif
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post Oct 16 2015, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 14 2015, 10:42 PM)
Let's not bring ASX into the equation. The question here is maximising returns from this 2 FD if you are above 50. One can use Truesavers to maximise the interest earns. So if mbsb with 4.7% interest given half yearly and added into Truesavers compare with ambank with 4.55% interest given monthly (above 50 years old) and added into Truesavers, which one is able to give a higher returns after 5 years?
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MBSB will remain higher return because interest earned from both AMbank and MBSB are compounded at a same rate and same length of tenure.

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 16 2015, 01:23 AM)
By the way, aeiou228 how come your EIR is 5.23% Vs 5.10 while mine is only 5.00943% vs 4.87766%?  hmm.gif Your method is add to principal to get the EIR of 5.23% Vs 5.10%?
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Because I compounded the interest at 4.X% and you compounded at 2.8%.

The interest difference between MBSB and AMBANK is still remain at 0.13% for both calculations.

QUOTE(lowya @ Oct 16 2015, 11:40 AM)
Is there any bank that upon closing of FD exactly on maturity date claims that final interest will not be paid unless uplift on maturity date + 1 day. I think this bank is trying to spin some story here.

If no, then I am about to reveal an underhanded practise of a bank that does that exactly to theit FD customer.
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No, I never come across such interest payment policy yet from all the banks I dealt with. Which bank are you referring to?
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post Oct 16 2015, 12:41 PM

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For BSN 4.5%p.a. 5 years with full capital guaranty by the government, assuming the interest payment is half yearly, then the compounded yield is 4.98%
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post Oct 16 2015, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 16 2015, 12:30 PM)

No, I never come across such interest payment policy yet from all the banks I dealt with. Which bank are you referring to?
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before release the details, i would like to confirm which bank negara rule that this bank has broken by not honoring full uplifting with full interest on printed maturity date, arguing that to avoid penalty, it has to be uplifted on printed maturity date + 1 day.

Got such logic in banking system? I will expose them only if they broke any banking rule, or enough people here feel it's unethical practice.

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post Oct 16 2015, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 16 2015, 01:23 AM)
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls

MBSB 4.7% + TS 2.8% vs AMB 4.55% +TS 2.8%  rclxms.gif  laugh.gif
Minimum amount here = RM10k

From here we can see that even with monthly interest, Ambank 4.55% still lose out to MBSB 4.7%.  MBSB is still the champ here. 
This is the first time I am calculating this kind of things. Any mistakes please correct me. notworthy.gif
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So finally u realised MBSB 4.7% is better?
0.2% extra no joke u know....especially over long term

For short term eg 1 month FD, a one time 5% rate also not
much to me.

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 16 2015, 01:45 PM)
So finally u realised MBSB 4.7% is better?
0.2% extra no joke u know....especially over long term

For short term eg 1 month FD, a one time 5% rate also not
much to me.
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You are forgetting large amount too. tongue.gif
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post Oct 16 2015, 03:08 PM

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Abit off topic here, but when I was at Maybank yesterday, the customer service told me they just had a meeting saying there maybe a new bond of 2 or 3 years going to be released that is capital guaranteed & guaranteed dividend of 5-6%.

It does look promising & will post again if confirmed.

With regards to the EIR 4.5% promo, she said the capital will only be affected if Maybank goes bankrupt.
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QUOTE(yygo @ Oct 16 2015, 09:22 AM)
provided instruction to bank is into sa after maturity, fund <10k. most bank ibg/ibft <10k/day.

if >10k susah lah. laugh.gif
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You can change the daily limit to higher amount. For instance, UOB daily limit is 50k.
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post Oct 16 2015, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Oct 16 2015, 11:40 AM)
Is there any bank that upon closing of FD exactly on maturity date claims that final interest will not be paid unless uplift on maturity date + 1 day. I think this bank is trying to spin some story here.

If no, then I am about to reveal an underhanded practise of a bank that does that exactly to theit FD customer.
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UOB FD is also maturity date + 1 day.
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post Oct 16 2015, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Oct 15 2015, 07:38 PM)
let me answer further on a few others.

No need to inform bank in advance, just bring your IC and go. Just bring the statement along if you want.
Once mature, can uplift on the same day or later.
UOB charges RM2.80 for banker's cheque (usual case for my branch)
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I just found out from calling UOB that uplifting of FD can be done online as well, no need to walk-in to branch.

UOB FD is maturity date + 1 day.

And if you do IBG online banking, the daily limit can be set to 50k.

This post has been edited by kimmo88: Oct 16 2015, 03:16 PM

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