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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.10, Please Read Post #1 & #2

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post Oct 12 2015, 08:48 PM

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Guys, Check out the new OCBC 360 Account. A savings account that pays up to 4.1% interest.
http://www.ocbc.com.my/personal-banking/ac...bc_accounts_360
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post Oct 13 2015, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 12 2015, 09:07 PM)
Not as good as ambank Truesavers. Need deposit of min RM500/month - troublesome . Pay bills via ocbc (unless ocbc can stack bills like uobpayonline , then is good. What happen if someone were to pay on the last day of the month? That 1.2% is only applicable for the last day only? hmm.gif). Need to charge RM500 to a cc. (Sifu Gen-X already showed us the best cc and ocbc is not in the list - will effectively reduce our CB). The most one can get from it is 2.9% (if don't charge cc). Charging rm500 to a useless cc is a very bad idea just to get 1.2%. doh.gif

Despite ambank Truesavers only giving 2.8% (0.1% lesser than ocbc),  at least no terms and conditions. No minimum amount required. There's no need to topup every month or charge anything. Only drawback is 3x/month ibg/atm withdrawal. biggrin.gif
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I agree with you. This savings account requires some monthly commitments and definitely not suitable for a student.

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post Oct 13 2015, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Oct 13 2015, 04:56 PM)
bravo  notworthy.gif

my today placement at OCBC also matures on sunday..close two eyes sad.gif
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OCBC will pay you Sunday interest automatically without you asking.
RHB will not pay you the non banking day interest even you ask for it.
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post Oct 14 2015, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Oct 14 2015, 07:12 PM)
Call the person in charge of FD to nego rate on the phone first...
MBSB 5 years at 4.7% with paid semi annual interest VS Am Bank 5 years at 4.55% with paid monthly interest (50 years old and above).

Let's say if put the both interests to Am Bank True Savers account, which one can earn more interest?

I used below online calculator and I came out with the answer MBSB can earn more interest.
Correct or not..?  hmm.gif

http://getsmarteraboutmoney.ca/tools-and-c...px#.Vh4ZIW5oDtw

[attachmentid=5124770]  ----> MBSB

[attachmentid=5124771]  ----> AM Bank

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My calculation shows 5.23% Vs 5.10 in favour of MBSB.
I think it's worth to "pay" 0.13% to AMbank as a premium for PIDM protection unless the deposit amount is very large.
But for such long term deposit, I would suggest 4.5% BSN with gomen guaranty for the entire deposit amount.
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post Oct 14 2015, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 14 2015, 09:00 PM)
Wow. 4.7% and 4.55% balloon up to 5.23% and 5.10% just because of a 2.8% SA!!! shocking.gif

4.5% compare to 5.10% and 5.23% is a very big difference! shakehead.gif

Well one could always split 2xRM250k between wifey and oneself rather than going for 4.5%
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For apple to apple effective interest rate comparison, the compound interest calculation is assumed at 4.7 and 4.55 respectively.

BSN 4.5% is p.a. rate, yet to be compounded. You need to find out BSN interest payment policy for 5 year FD before you can calculate the compounded interest rate.

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post Oct 14 2015, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 14 2015, 09:21 PM)
They said that bsn only pay upon maturity. If that's the case, we tend to lose here.

Have the 5.10% and 5.23% calculations taken into consideration of monthly interest compounding into 2.8% of Truesavers sa (ambank fd) and half yearly interest for compounding into 2.8% of Truesavers sa (mbsb fd)?
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For BSN 5 Years FD, if I'm not mistaken is half yearly.

The 5.10% and 5.23% already a compounded interest calculated based on the assumption that "interest added to principle" for Apple to Apple comparison.

If you bring in Thruesaver 2.8% into the equation, then the argument can be never ending, coz one can argue that half yearly interest earned from MBSB FD and place it in ASX for 6.4% compounding interest.
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post Oct 16 2015, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 14 2015, 10:42 PM)
Let's not bring ASX into the equation. The question here is maximising returns from this 2 FD if you are above 50. One can use Truesavers to maximise the interest earns. So if mbsb with 4.7% interest given half yearly and added into Truesavers compare with ambank with 4.55% interest given monthly (above 50 years old) and added into Truesavers, which one is able to give a higher returns after 5 years?
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MBSB will remain higher return because interest earned from both AMbank and MBSB are compounded at a same rate and same length of tenure.

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 16 2015, 01:23 AM)
By the way, aeiou228 how come your EIR is 5.23% Vs 5.10 while mine is only 5.00943% vs 4.87766%?  hmm.gif Your method is add to principal to get the EIR of 5.23% Vs 5.10%?
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Because I compounded the interest at 4.X% and you compounded at 2.8%.

The interest difference between MBSB and AMBANK is still remain at 0.13% for both calculations.

QUOTE(lowya @ Oct 16 2015, 11:40 AM)
Is there any bank that upon closing of FD exactly on maturity date claims that final interest will not be paid unless uplift on maturity date + 1 day. I think this bank is trying to spin some story here.

If no, then I am about to reveal an underhanded practise of a bank that does that exactly to theit FD customer.
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No, I never come across such interest payment policy yet from all the banks I dealt with. Which bank are you referring to?
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post Oct 16 2015, 12:41 PM

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For BSN 4.5%p.a. 5 years with full capital guaranty by the government, assuming the interest payment is half yearly, then the compounded yield is 4.98%
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post Oct 17 2015, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(michaelho @ Oct 16 2015, 09:12 PM)
If you are ref to CIMB , yes they are pretty ridiculous in calculating weekend interest. They will cheat you of 1 day, confirmed, which is why I always make sure my FD maturity doesnt fall on a weekend / long holidays
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The root cause for the non interest payment over FD due date fall on non business day is due to the some bank's FD system treated this type of withdrawal as premature withdrawal for the renewed placement from the due date to the next business day (day of withdrawal). The FD system has no provision to cater for such situation.
Maybe there is no rules from BNM or not many depositors complain about it to push the banks to upgrade to smarter FD system similar to that of OCBC.

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post Oct 18 2015, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(cklimm @ Oct 16 2015, 08:30 PM)
Latest from BSN:
FD Promo for 1,6,9,12 months @ 3.2%,3.3%,3.5%,4.0% p.a respectively

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For the 60 months 4.5%,

Min deposit 5K.
Interest paid half yearly.
If above 50 years old, interest paid every 4 months.
If above 50 years old and deposit exceed 50K, interest paid monthly.
Deposit guaranteed by the Malaysian Government.
Effective yield for interest paid monthly is 5.04%
Comparing just yield and risk only, BSN is currently slight better yield than PAV Reit @ RM1.52 now.
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post Oct 18 2015, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 18 2015, 03:55 PM)
Bro, can't compare FD with Reits as the later is exposed to capital upside or downside
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Can compare. If one wants to compare and there is nothing wrong to compare.
Even Apples and Oranges also we can compare the differences.
Men and women also we can compare.
Singapore can compare to Malaysia too.
ROI in property investment also can compare with ROI in Gold investment, ROI in FD, ROI in ASX etc etc.
There is no right or wrong to compare. Any thing also can compare.
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post Oct 20 2015, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Oct 20 2015, 10:48 PM)
ah.. this is pro level of analysis...  notworthy.gif

but in few hours time action (or not action) need to be taken.

whats the conclusion bro?
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For the 3days loss, the 4.6% 2years becomes 4.58% 2 years.
0.03% different + earlier maturity.
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post Oct 24 2015, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(Ah SiAnG @ Oct 24 2015, 07:34 PM)
oh really? will drop by and ask if have time.

their e-FD 6 months for 4.05%p.a. or 9 months 4.15% p.a. is kinda attractive, for short term deposit  rolleyes.gif
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It's worth it, the debit card enjoy 2% cash back for PB account or 1.5% for premium account ( need 40k initial deposit ).
Cash back limit is up to RM90 per calendar month for premium account for all retail chargers except government transactions.
I recommend go for premium account with 40k 9mths 4.15% FD.
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post Oct 24 2015, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Oct 24 2015, 09:41 PM)
Their meps withdraw also foc.. other charge rm 1.06
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Didn't know that. Thanks for the info. biggrin.gif
But no chance to use the meps yet cause I maintain my hybrid account max 6k only every calendar month.

QUOTE(besiegetank @ Oct 24 2015, 10:05 PM)
To be a pb customer say for HLB, do we auto become one when we dump RM250k FD with them?  hmm.gif
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No. Need to sign up.
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post Oct 24 2015, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(hwachong @ Oct 24 2015, 10:11 PM)
Do you think it's worth to sacrifice one week of interest, and uplift my 4.2% (1 yr) ambank fd and reput in 4.6% (2 yr) ambank fd
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Losing 7 days interest will effectively reduce the 2 yrs FD from 4.6% to 4.556%. Still ok to switch unless the deposit amount is small.

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post Nov 4 2015, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 4 2015, 12:34 PM)
Anyway let it rest. So that topic won't be lengthen by useless argument I am tired of telling you guys not to give banks free money. You guys want to give free money, be my guest.
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You are too obsessed with your own opinion already. I think it is the other way round where readers of this thread and also other threads are the one getting tired and annoyed by your obsessive compulsive disorder to repeat the same thing over and over again. This thread is viewed mostly by matured audience and I believe they don't live a frugal student life anymore. Therefore your opinion may not be applicable to most of us here.

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post Nov 4 2015, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(familyfirst @ Nov 4 2015, 02:39 PM)
It seems CIMB will  maintain the 4.3% for 12 mth pure FD for the months of Nov & Dec.  They will stop in Jan for sure.
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Pbb housing loan is 4.4% whereas AmBank FD is 4.6%. Flexi loan borrower can untung 2% from FD for two years instead of covering the loan balance if no OPR hike within the same period.
I guess the competition in FD promo rates shall not stray far from the everage housing loan lending rate of 4.5%.

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 4 2015, 03:37 PM)
I tot is 0.20% instead of 2%
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Yes. Your are correct. Tq for the correction.
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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Nov 5 2015, 01:09 PM)
Any penalty for withdrawal less than 15months for the step up FD?
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As long as you withdraw after completion of any of the 4 steps, you will be paid accordingly to the contracted interest rate on each step.
Good for depositor who doesn't want to tie up fund for 15 mths.
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QUOTE(thingamagic @ Nov 5 2015, 01:55 PM)
Generally all FD early withdrawals would just waive the latest month interest if full month unfulfilled unless T&C practises prorated interest
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Bro, I never heard of such gooding premature withdrawal policy. Your bank is indeed very generous.
Can share with us which bank is practising this type of policy ? brows.gif

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