Will switch out all my profits in EI Small-cap to EI Bond tomorrow. Profit at 15% as of 21/10 NAV.
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Fundsupermart.com v12, Najibnomics to lift KLCI?
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Oct 22 2015, 11:40 PM
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Will switch out all my profits in EI Small-cap to EI Bond tomorrow. Profit at 15% as of 21/10 NAV.
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Oct 23 2015, 02:02 AM
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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Oct 22 2015, 08:44 PM) Bloomberg has the NAV for 21/10. Suggested you to use Bloomberg ady Btw, hnws join this thread ady. Suddenly 70+ new post QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 22 2015, 10:18 PM) Need to start learning from the sifus ma. At this rate prices in bolehland, cannot depend on ASX FP as my FD, my savings will become less and less. Student only la. Not hsnw. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Oct 23 2015, 02:06 AM |
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Oct 23 2015, 04:31 AM
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Oct 23 2015, 07:21 AM
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I am considering to add RHB ATR Fund, but am concerned with China's bond risk.
What do you think? QUOTE As a rout in Chinese stocks this year erased $5 trillion of value, investors fled for safety in the nation’s red-hot corporate bond market. They may have just moved from one bubble to another. ... Yields on top-rated corporate notes due in five years have declined 79 basis points, or 0.79 percentage point, this year to 4.01 percent. The yield premium over similar-maturity government securities has dropped to 97 basis points, near the lowest since 2009. By contrast, the yield on corporate notes globally has increased 26 basis points to 2.92 percent. Credit-default swaps on China’s sovereign debt jumped to a more than two-year high of 133 basis points in September and were last at 113 basis points. ... For all the concerns about a bond rout, default levels in China have so far been remarkably low, thanks in part to government-orchestrated bailouts for troubled firms. Just four companies have defaulted on onshore bonds, including Shanghai Chaori Solar Energy Science & Technology Co., which became the first to renege on its debt in 2014. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...check-out-bonds |
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Oct 23 2015, 07:22 AM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 22 2015, 09:20 AM) ....... to be frank, VERY frank...I know nuts about the inside working of IRR/XIRR PS: Wanna ask yklooi and other sifus, wonder if my earlier mentioned of Summary IRR 10% was falsely elevated due to this new purchase Global Titans?? That would be bad as it does not reflect true returns. I just used the ready made formula available. I think there is effects if the sum topped up is substantial and the ROI from that top up is also substantial in short period of time....I don't have exact maths but "feelings" from what had been known that IRR readings can "create" extremely good numbers if the used to calculate (extrapolate?) in short period of time and as from what had been experienced by forumer @kimyee73 I recalled reading this very illustrative comparison posting by forumer @idyllrain about ROI, CAGR, and IRR are all general metrics that tell you the return of your investment in different ways. very interesting.... and for those that really wanted to know about the "inside the maths" working of IRR...there is a good write up by forumer @j.passing.by in post# 1148, page# 58 https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3633445/+1140 This post has been edited by yklooi: Oct 23 2015, 07:57 AM |
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Oct 23 2015, 07:30 AM
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Oct 23 2015, 07:36 AM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Oct 23 2015, 07:21 AM) yesterday's morning 23050 now 35450 views....wow > 2k views per day This post has been edited by yklooi: Oct 23 2015, 07:46 AM |
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Oct 23 2015, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 22 2015, 07:21 PM) thanks, never know i can get credit points like that, but surely there is a 'cost' right? FSM cant be that generous dishing out free credit points for us to abuse.... Off hand i think the 'cost' is our money will be 'on hold' and "nonproductive" for that time few days? while moving from Eq to Bond and back to CMF, compared to switch sell direct to CMF. There is no hidden 'cost". You will still earn interest for the transit period when your money is moving from Equity Fund to Bond Fund and back to CMF. You can consider this a 'loop hole' in FSM. Enjoy the benefit while it lasts. FSM staff are monitoring this forum. They may close this 'loop hole' in the near future since I have posted it here. |
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Oct 23 2015, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 22 2015, 07:21 PM) I am not buying that RHB IPO, as i diverted them to FD promo 4.5% and now 4.6%. I guess u also not buying right? That's great. I am hoping FSM will make the decision for me, i.e. they will say, "Due to overwhelming response, the RHB Pre-IPO is fully subscribed and is now CLOSED for subscription". Then I can use that as an excuse to say, 'Aiyah, I wanted to invest in it one but they closed the fund early'. OT, which bank offer the FD 4.6% promo rate now? May I know what is the minimum deposit required and the lock in period? |
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Oct 23 2015, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Oct 23 2015, 09:46 AM) I still have not made up my mind yet about the RHB Pre-IPO. Private equity fund is unchartered territory for me. AmBank offer 24 mths FD @ 4.60%I am hoping FSM will make the decision for me, i.e. they will say, "Due to overwhelming response, the RHB Pre-IPO is fully subscribed and is now CLOSED for subscription". Then I can use that as an excuse to say, 'Aiyah, I wanted to invest in it one but they closed the fund early'. OT, which bank offer the FD 4.6% promo rate now? May I know what is the minimum deposit required and the lock in period? |
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Oct 23 2015, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Oct 23 2015, 07:36 AM) Of course. The global market rally now is like a Viagra booster for the members here including Vanguard. The investors who have extra bullets or who were scared off previously by the China led global blood bath have now awoken from their slumbers. They are checking the forum to see what other investors are buying or selling. |
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Oct 23 2015, 09:57 AM
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Oct 23 2015, 09:58 AM
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Oct 23 2015, 10:00 AM
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Sipek many views......
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Oct 23 2015, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Oct 23 2015, 09:58 AM) Thanks bro. But 24 months lock in period. Walao eh. few years ago, i managed to have 5%pa from HLB...lockin period 5 yrs But, but still better return from some of the bond funds in FSM? looking back and "comparing" my current IRR...at times i think that lockin of 5 yrs of 5%pa is not too bad...for some people This post has been edited by yklooi: Oct 23 2015, 10:04 AM |
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Oct 23 2015, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Oct 23 2015, 09:57 AM) is that over the counter promo? YesI wud reckon at least 2% above risk free rate |
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Oct 23 2015, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Oct 23 2015, 07:21 AM) I am considering to add RHB ATR Fund, but am concerned with China's bond risk. I have the RHB ATR Fund. Double digit return now. But I don't think it is really a traditional bond fund. It behaves like an equity fund. In a few weeks, the fund can go up and down a few percent. What do you think? http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...check-out-bonds Therefore if you do intend to buy it, I strongly suggest using DCA and not lump sum investment since it has a risk rating of 4. Plus point of RHB ATR Fund - no sales fee. Negative point - quarterly platform fee of 0.05% (subject to 6% GST). Whether you are making a profit or loss, you will still have to pay the platform fee. |
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Oct 23 2015, 10:07 AM
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Oct 23 2015, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 23 2015, 10:05 AM) my current ROI is abt 10.x% IRR is about 4.3% needed to get another 7% ROI in the next 6 mths (3rd anniversary) and maintain 6.6%ROI pa after that...... This post has been edited by yklooi: Oct 23 2015, 10:15 AM |
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Oct 23 2015, 10:14 AM
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