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Ramjade
post Oct 21 2015, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 21 2015, 09:31 PM)
Great statement but I have yet to achieve 7 digits  cry.gif
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How about rm999,999.99? laugh.gif brows.gif tongue.gif
Ramjade
post Oct 21 2015, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 21 2015, 10:20 PM)
I think you misunderstood my statement. Let me correct it.... "tight movement around its mean growth rate". Makes more sense now?

Good! Now go read up on FAMA-FRENCH multi risky asset module risk parity pricing model. Good bedtime reading.  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

Chicks dig numbers guys these days  cool2.gif  cool2.gif  cool2.gif

Tak caya? Just look at Jho Low score on Paris Hilton.

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Xuzen, isn't the idea of UT is buying and holding for dividend? So how does say ponzi 2.0 able to give returns so fast?

By the way. No need to look so far. We have our own pinky who went to Vietnam. tongue.gif
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post Oct 21 2015, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 21 2015, 10:29 PM)
i wonder are we putting those UTC agenst out of biz ?

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Don't think so. Noob people will always use agent. Some prefer dealing with human. By the way Lee sook yes = kgf?
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post Oct 21 2015, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 21 2015, 10:44 PM)
good question  blush.gif

better invest in Lee Sook Yee  wub.gif and it's ikan bilis friendly too  blush.gif
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Lee sook yee. What's the name of the fund?
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post Oct 22 2015, 08:07 AM

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guy3288 in your pic, there are some which is like 20+% increase in the original value. Do you sell them or hold them for dividends?
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post Oct 22 2015, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Oct 22 2015, 08:17 AM)
Bro..  The dividends are not meaning
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Then how do you guys cash out the profit?
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post Oct 22 2015, 09:38 AM

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guy3288, what do you mean by locking in profit?

So you don't hold long term? You buy and sell like doing share market trading?

David83, what's the best way to get the returns? Hold long term or sell like doing share market trading?

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post Oct 22 2015, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 22 2015, 09:38 AM)
Yes i agree totally.

I wonder how much does this new purchase influence my summary  overall IRR?

Earlier i was happy with summary IRR 10.11%.
deduct away this 142% IRR left how much?...
yes, buy low -sell high, the if got chance, buy low back again. if miss (UT keep going up) forget it.
if lost money i hold long term eg my AmCommodities, just keep buying , no chance to sell so far becos no profit.
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So you don't hold really hold long term for funds like ponzi 2.0 and titans unlike your ASX FP?
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post Oct 22 2015, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Oct 22 2015, 10:47 AM)
Updated my portfolio, looking good for this month vs last month. Last month consider good already!
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So you personally, you hold long term or sell when it goes up?
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post Oct 22 2015, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Oct 22 2015, 11:07 AM)
My plan will re-balance once a year. I am not too rigid to this methodology as my re-balancing will depends on circumstances, but definitely will do it once a yer.

I hope to hold long term and will not take out the money I put in for investment till I retire. But I never know when I need a sum of money for urgent matters (I hope this will not happen).
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Assuming that you don't need the money, so you will topup, but you will sell? Can you explain what do you meant by rebalancing? How do you evaluate which funds need to rebalanced? Any criteria?

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post Oct 22 2015, 01:21 PM

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If I buy the 4 funds (ponzi 2.0, titans, kgf, eastspring cap) and keep long term, can it outrun interest earned by FD? (looking at double digit returns here)

IvanWong1989 you buy and hold or you sell when it is high?

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post Oct 22 2015, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Oct 22 2015, 01:26 PM)
That is my current portfolio . Started since May.  Lol.

Red red green green .
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Buy and hold or buy and sell like share?
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post Oct 22 2015, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Oct 22 2015, 01:29 PM)
hmm.gif YES....if you "believes" on the past performance may repeat itself....
what is shown here are past performances.....(assuming at 25% each)
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For the average say 10 Years, do we need to divided the returns by 10? Or that is already what one will get average per year?
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post Oct 22 2015, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Oct 22 2015, 01:44 PM)
already annualised.....

DEFINITION of 'Annualized Rate'
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/annualized-rate.asp
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Ok. Thanks. Cause some stuff I came across they attempted to trick the customer by saying can get xx% but that haven't factor in the need to divide by the number of year.
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post Oct 23 2015, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Oct 22 2015, 08:44 PM)
Bloomberg has the NAV for 21/10. Suggested you to use Bloomberg ady yawn.gif

Btw, hnws join this thread ady. Suddenly 70+ new post biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 22 2015, 10:18 PM)
Tun Ramjade?  hmm.gif
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Need to start learning from the sifus ma. At this rate prices in bolehland, cannot depend on ASX FP as my FD, my savings will become less and less.

Student only la. Not hsnw. sweat.gif Stalker only initially. But better start posting. Also need to start looking how to get free rm1000/year books without touching my pay when I worked. ASX FP cannot unless one have like min rm20k. But if using ASX FP to buy rm1k of books then my ASX FP won't grow. cry.gif

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post Oct 23 2015, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 23 2015, 01:49 PM)
Green green time i lock up more profits.
sold half  RHB OSK GEY and Pacific Global Star.
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Let me get it straight. Say you buy 100,000 units at rm1/unit, say the value of the unit increases to rm1.20/unit, you will sell 16500 units at rm19800? The total inside still worth rm100k.
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post Oct 23 2015, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 23 2015, 02:16 PM)
100 000 units MINUS 16 500 units = 83 500 units balance
83 500 x RM 1.20 current NAV = RM 100 200 balance

this balance of RM value will goes up and down when there is changes to the NAV or changes to the number of units
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I know. But I want to know how does one lock in the profit when it's green
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post Oct 23 2015, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 23 2015, 02:30 PM)
see the example as posted by kimyee73 above?
when you sell some units...you take out some money out of that fund like the RM 19800 you mentioned.

some don't advise that....like post# 576.
I too says...let it RUN until the valuation is "seems" to be a lot higher than others..
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So it's ok to buy and hold? No need to buy-sell?
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post Oct 23 2015, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(dirtinacan @ Oct 23 2015, 02:37 PM)
i would lock profit when sudden increase in NAV price (eg. 15% overnight).

otherwise, keep it in the respective funds - until i need to use the moneyh lar.

maybe kimyee invested lots of money.

which means his 10% my 10% is different. brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif

so it is different way of thinking (read RM100 paper loss vs RM1000 profit/loss).

all my 5 funds are green today  icon_idea.gif
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So if one were to sell the units and say get 15% profit, then where do you dump the money into?
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post Oct 23 2015, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 23 2015, 08:56 PM)
your reply sounds so... tongue.gif  blush.gif
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His reply means study azogen. Apa lu fikir?

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