QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 21 2015, 09:31 PM)
How about rm999,999.99? Fundsupermart.com v12, Najibnomics to lift KLCI?
Fundsupermart.com v12, Najibnomics to lift KLCI?
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Oct 21 2015, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 21 2015, 10:20 PM) I think you misunderstood my statement. Let me correct it.... "tight movement around its mean growth rate". Makes more sense now? Xuzen, isn't the idea of UT is buying and holding for dividend? So how does say ponzi 2.0 able to give returns so fast?Good! Now go read up on FAMA-FRENCH multi risky asset module risk parity pricing model. Good bedtime reading. Chicks dig numbers guys these days Tak caya? Just look at Jho Low score on Paris Hilton. Xuzen By the way. No need to look so far. We have our own pinky who went to Vietnam. |
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Oct 21 2015, 10:32 PM
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Oct 21 2015, 10:45 PM
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Oct 22 2015, 08:07 AM
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guy3288 in your pic, there are some which is like 20+% increase in the original value. Do you sell them or hold them for dividends?
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Oct 22 2015, 08:32 AM
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Oct 22 2015, 09:38 AM
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guy3288, what do you mean by locking in profit?
So you don't hold long term? You buy and sell like doing share market trading? David83, what's the best way to get the returns? Hold long term or sell like doing share market trading? This post has been edited by Ramjade: Oct 22 2015, 09:40 AM |
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Oct 22 2015, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 22 2015, 09:38 AM) Yes i agree totally. So you don't hold really hold long term for funds like ponzi 2.0 and titans unlike your ASX FP?I wonder how much does this new purchase influence my summary overall IRR? Earlier i was happy with summary IRR 10.11%. deduct away this 142% IRR left how much?... yes, buy low -sell high, the if got chance, buy low back again. if miss (UT keep going up) forget it. if lost money i hold long term eg my AmCommodities, just keep buying , no chance to sell so far becos no profit. |
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Oct 22 2015, 10:52 AM
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Oct 22 2015, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Oct 22 2015, 11:07 AM) My plan will re-balance once a year. I am not too rigid to this methodology as my re-balancing will depends on circumstances, but definitely will do it once a yer. Assuming that you don't need the money, so you will topup, but you will sell? Can you explain what do you meant by rebalancing? How do you evaluate which funds need to rebalanced? Any criteria?I hope to hold long term and will not take out the money I put in for investment till I retire. But I never know when I need a sum of money for urgent matters (I hope this will not happen). This post has been edited by Ramjade: Oct 22 2015, 11:34 AM |
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Oct 22 2015, 01:21 PM
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If I buy the 4 funds (ponzi 2.0, titans, kgf, eastspring cap) and keep long term, can it outrun interest earned by FD? (looking at double digit returns here)
IvanWong1989 you buy and hold or you sell when it is high? This post has been edited by Ramjade: Oct 22 2015, 01:25 PM |
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Oct 22 2015, 01:28 PM
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Oct 22 2015, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Oct 22 2015, 01:29 PM) what is shown here are past performances.....(assuming at 25% each) |
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Oct 22 2015, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Oct 22 2015, 01:44 PM) already annualised..... Ok. Thanks. Cause some stuff I came across they attempted to trick the customer by saying can get xx% but that haven't factor in the need to divide by the number of year.DEFINITION of 'Annualized Rate' http://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/annualized-rate.asp |
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Oct 23 2015, 02:02 AM
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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Oct 22 2015, 08:44 PM) Bloomberg has the NAV for 21/10. Suggested you to use Bloomberg ady Btw, hnws join this thread ady. Suddenly 70+ new post QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 22 2015, 10:18 PM) Need to start learning from the sifus ma. At this rate prices in bolehland, cannot depend on ASX FP as my FD, my savings will become less and less. Student only la. Not hsnw. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Oct 23 2015, 02:06 AM |
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Oct 23 2015, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 23 2015, 01:49 PM) Let me get it straight. Say you buy 100,000 units at rm1/unit, say the value of the unit increases to rm1.20/unit, you will sell 16500 units at rm19800? The total inside still worth rm100k. |
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Oct 23 2015, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 23 2015, 02:16 PM) 100 000 units MINUS 16 500 units = 83 500 units balance I know. But I want to know how does one lock in the profit when it's green83 500 x RM 1.20 current NAV = RM 100 200 balance this balance of RM value will goes up and down when there is changes to the NAV or changes to the number of units |
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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 23 2015, 02:30 PM) see the example as posted by kimyee73 above? So it's ok to buy and hold? No need to buy-sell?when you sell some units...you take out some money out of that fund like the RM 19800 you mentioned. some don't advise that....like post# 576. I too says...let it RUN until the valuation is "seems" to be a lot higher than others.. |
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QUOTE(dirtinacan @ Oct 23 2015, 02:37 PM) i would lock profit when sudden increase in NAV price (eg. 15% overnight). So if one were to sell the units and say get 15% profit, then where do you dump the money into?otherwise, keep it in the respective funds - until i need to use the moneyh lar. maybe kimyee invested lots of money. which means his 10% my 10% is different. so it is different way of thinking (read RM100 paper loss vs RM1000 profit/loss). all my 5 funds are green today |
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