Investment O'HAKO @ PUCHONG (Ver 2) [OWNERS' THREAD], Japan Developer Enters Malaysia
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  Jul 23 2015, 09:17 PM, updated 6y ago
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Thread No. 2 continues here.
*********************************** O'HAKO @ PUCHONG Version 1 >>> https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3377043 ************************************ Japan-originated Marimo Land is venturing for the first time in Malaysia. Location: Jalan Pipit, Puchong     This post has been edited by accetera: Jan 18 2020, 12:37 PM |
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Jul 23 2015, 10:48 PM
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It took 9 mths to start v2
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Jul 23 2015, 10:48 PM
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V2 liao geng ar.......
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Jul 24 2015, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 23 2015, 10:48 PM) It took 9 mths to start v2 Yeah.. all thanks to cemetery... Congrats   |
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Jul 24 2015, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(Latio @ Jul 24 2015, 10:05 AM) Yeah.. all thanks to cemetery... also thanks to all the agent bump |
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Jul 24 2015, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Jul 24 2015, 10:13 AM) also thanks to all the agent bump yeah... guess the show will continue ongoing here.. V3 also not too far away.. |
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Jul 24 2015, 10:45 PM
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check in V2
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Jul 25 2015, 12:08 AM
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how's the take up rate?
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Jul 25 2015, 03:14 PM
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Piling works already started presume sale should be more then 50%
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Jul 25 2015, 11:02 PM
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From hotness to cold. How come nobody voted for O'Hako in PTLM fb?
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Jul 26 2015, 12:33 AM
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Seems like many are turned off by the sewerage treatment pond & cementary. A few of my friends have cancelled their purchase
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Jul 26 2015, 09:27 AM
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Feehold in Puchong hard to find de. Somemore the address is Puchong Jaya.
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Jul 26 2015, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(Latio @ Jul 24 2015, 10:05 AM) Yeah.. all thanks to cemetery... Lol Feel a bit boring Liao, don't want to comment on this thread anymore  |
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Jul 26 2015, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(KimiLau @ Jul 26 2015, 12:47 PM) Lol yeah... that why i didnt comment most of the time.. Feel a bit boring Liao, don't want to comment on this thread anymore  just ready my popcorn for the show...  |
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Jul 26 2015, 04:29 PM
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Folks,
Anymore new discoveries? This post has been edited by dobson: Jul 26 2015, 08:38 PM |
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Jul 28 2015, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Jul 25 2015, 03:14 PM) Piling works already started presume sale should be more then 50% no piling works done yet on both ohako n twinz, only few big machines arrived, big blocks of cement blocks delivered, ohako area going to be fenced up to differentiate between ohako n twinz |
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Aug 3 2015, 12:20 PM
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any more "surprises"?
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Aug 3 2015, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(juDas_x @ Aug 3 2015, 12:20 PM) any more "surprises"? Haha funny |
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Aug 18 2015, 08:52 AM
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Anyone know how long it takes to get the refund after cancellation?
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Aug 18 2015, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(Sidecross888 @ Aug 18 2015, 08:52 AM) Anyone know how long it takes to get the refund after cancellation? Aiyo, why you want to refund ?  |
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Aug 19 2015, 09:28 AM
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so quiet?
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Aug 19 2015, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(noname2188 @ Aug 18 2015, 09:53 AM) Aiyo, why you want to refund ? QUOTE(KumKum_Ghost @ Aug 19 2015, 09:28 AM) so quiet? Since it's so quiet ....I thought it is funny to ask why want to refund. After cancelled already then must get refund lar. LOL. Maybe the question was why cancel. |
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Sep 1 2015, 10:10 AM
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I heard some goodies incoming for existing buyers as they get closer to launch...
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Sep 1 2015, 10:18 AM
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selling off my unit. Block A unit, intermediate level, corner unit. Please pm for detail
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Sep 1 2015, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(winsonlee888 @ Sep 1 2015, 10:18 AM) selling off my unit. Block A unit, intermediate level, corner unit. Please pm for detail Wow, so fast ? I wonder if you have even sign SNP ?  |
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Sep 1 2015, 10:21 AM
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SNP signing in October, not sure how he can sell when he doesn't own it yet lol
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Sep 1 2015, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(juDas_x @ Sep 1 2015, 10:21 AM) SNP signing in October, not sure how he can sell when he doesn't own it yet lol Sounds like he is just giving up his unit and then let another person to take over the unit with a "fees" ?Maybe he is a SA. So interesting. Anything also can happen. Boleh ! |
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Sep 4 2015, 11:05 PM
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i m waiting eagerly to see what is going to happen come this october
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Sep 4 2015, 11:10 PM
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wonder what happened to the pro-ohako living in denial buyers!
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Sep 4 2015, 11:49 PM
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look like bbb is just a show at first.
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Sep 7 2015, 11:20 AM
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seems still bbb
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Sep 8 2015, 12:42 PM
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I heard will have further rebate to be announce soon but yet to confirm the figure.
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Sep 12 2015, 03:57 PM
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Got anyone staying at Koi Kinrara experience frequent fire burning nearby? I heard there are always burning smell and also from factory nearby as well....
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Sep 14 2015, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(Sidecross888 @ Sep 8 2015, 12:42 PM) I heard will have further rebate to be announce soon but yet to confirm the figure. he has to, else how is he gonna sell fast?he will stoop to anything just to get ppl to forget the 15 acre tanah perkuburan islam |
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Sep 14 2015, 10:54 AM
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wow, what did O'hako do to you?
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Sep 15 2015, 09:01 AM
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QUOTE(juDas_x @ Sep 14 2015, 10:54 AM) wow, what did O'hako do to you? do what? i don't get you |
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Sep 15 2015, 10:54 AM
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after the cemetery plan announced, this project immediately not attract any discussion anymore
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Sep 15 2015, 01:01 PM
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Do not be conned! This Japanese company does not even operate like a Japanese company at all.
They do not let the purchasers who placed RM 5K booking know about this massive 15 acre cemetery!!! For those of you who are pantang about cemetery, please stay away and don’t throw your hard earned money down the Klang River. |
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Sep 15 2015, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Sep 15 2015, 01:01 PM) Do not be conned! This Japanese company does not even operate like a Japanese company at all. How they do not let the purchasers who placed RM 5K booking know about this massive 15 acre cemetery?? They do not let the purchasers who placed RM 5K booking know about this massive 15 acre cemetery!!! For those of you who are pantang about cemetery, please stay away and don’t throw your hard earned money down the Klang River. |
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Sep 15 2015, 05:07 PM
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any proof saying that they intent to hide the cemetery?
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Sep 15 2015, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Sep 15 2015, 01:01 PM) Do not be conned! This Japanese company does not even operate like a Japanese company at all. Abang dobson,why you so hit this developer? Since you already cancelled your unit why not just left it be? No end here if you kept on commenting. I believe each buyer will judge themselves should buy or not buy.They do not let the purchasers who placed RM 5K booking know about this massive 15 acre cemetery!!! For those of you who are pantang about cemetery, please stay away and don’t throw your hard earned money down the Klang River. |
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Sep 15 2015, 10:19 PM
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wow 15 acre is huge... how to not see 15 acres of dead ppl
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Sep 15 2015, 10:26 PM
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If they price it right, I think people will still purchase. I've seen few development that has cemetery view, and over time it's fully occupied too. There's one near Aeon cheras selatan, they built right beside Chinese cemetery and it's going to ready soon. It looks good though and not that scary after all. Just stay out of it if pantang, no one is forced to purchase.
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Sep 15 2015, 10:46 PM
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they not even start their construction yet?
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Sep 16 2015, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Sep 15 2015, 10:11 PM) Abang dobson,why you so hit this developer? Since you already cancelled your unit why not just left it be? No end here if you kept on commenting. I believe each buyer will judge themselves should buy or not buy. I have my reasons. Just sharing the truth thats all. A lot of people who placed the RM 5K booking are still in the dark. |
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Sep 16 2015, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Sep 15 2015, 10:26 PM) If they price it right, I think people will still purchase. I've seen few development that has cemetery view, and over time it's fully occupied too. There's one near Aeon cheras selatan, they built right beside Chinese cemetery and it's going to ready soon. It looks good though and not that scary after all. Just stay out of it if pantang, no one is forced to purchase. Price it right? Do you mean below market price? |
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Sep 16 2015, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(yck1987 @ Sep 15 2015, 05:06 PM) How they do not let the purchasers who placed RM 5K booking know about this massive 15 acre cemetery?? They don't tell you, as simple as that.Even if you ask, they act blur and pretend they don't know. |
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Sep 16 2015, 09:01 AM
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QUOTE(winsonlee888 @ Sep 15 2015, 05:07 PM) any proof saying that they intent to hide the cemetery? Proof? You mean black and white? Hahaha |
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Sep 16 2015, 11:00 AM
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I think all developer are same with main objective doing business. The issue like cemetery is beyong their control important fact still depend your own preferences.
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Sep 20 2015, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Sep 16 2015, 11:00 AM) I think all developer are same with main objective doing business. The issue like cemetery is beyong their control important fact still depend your own preferences.  |
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Sep 22 2015, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Sep 15 2015, 10:54 AM) after the cemetery plan announced, this project immediately not attract any discussion anymore No la. Actually after the plan announce. Its even more hot topic between some keen buyer and some not keen buyer. Then until one point the admin gotta close that group and open up this new chatroom. Since then no one mention on the cemetery, then not so hot liaw haha |
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Oct 2 2015, 10:57 AM
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2.5% extra discount when signing SnP.
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Oct 2 2015, 07:40 PM
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Below 450k consider good buy.
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Oct 2 2015, 08:34 PM
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15 acre cemetery plan is still on?
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Oct 2 2015, 09:05 PM
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I tot is muslim cemetery project?
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Oct 2 2015, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 2 2015, 08:34 PM) 15 acre cemetery plan is still on? Yes, why not?Tanah Perkuburan Islam 15 Ekar - PJS 4  This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 2 2015, 09:55 PM |
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Oct 2 2015, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 2 2015, 09:05 PM) I tot is muslim cemetery project? Yes you are right, tanah perkuburan Islam - 15 ekar |
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Oct 2 2015, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(skykid83 @ Oct 2 2015, 10:57 AM) 2.5% extra discount when signing SnP. Waiting to see how much more discount is he going to give just to make existing people who placed booking to sign the S&PThis post has been edited by dobson: Oct 2 2015, 10:00 PM |
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Oct 2 2015, 09:59 PM
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Apparently alot of the people who paid their RM 5,000 booking are still in the dark about the 15-acre Muslim cemetery.
Lets see what happens after they sign the S&P and bank loan and find out |
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Oct 2 2015, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 2 2015, 09:57 PM) Lets wait and see how much more discounts is gonna throw! Taboo for typical Chinese  |
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Oct 2 2015, 10:02 PM
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I smell desperation...
Suddenly a lot of people pushing O'hako to me. Came across a few lately. When asked about the 15 acres cemetery, they were like 'Oh really? How come I was not told?' This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 2 2015, 10:03 PM |
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Oct 2 2015, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 2 2015, 10:00 PM) Taboo for typical Chinese Agreed bro.That's what I meant, developer knows its taboo but yet they decide to cover the fact & hide the truth. Imagine what will happen once the purchaser finds out about the cemetery, after signing the S&P This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 2 2015, 10:14 PM |
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Oct 2 2015, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 2 2015, 09:52 PM) okay  lol what's with the tombstone pict This post has been edited by nexona88: Oct 2 2015, 10:06 PM |
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Oct 2 2015, 10:06 PM
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My bankers tell me he is super desperate now, pushing the banks to quickly call purchasers so that they will take up loan offer letter and be ready for S&P signing.
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Oct 2 2015, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 2 2015, 10:05 PM) okay lol what's with the tombstone pict |
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Oct 2 2015, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 2 2015, 10:05 PM) Agreed bro. I suppose Buyer must conduct due diligence 1st b4 sign SPA as Developer sell n build based on 'as is where as' basisThat's what I meant, developer knows its taboo but yet they decide to cover the fact & hide the truth. Imagine what will happen once they find out about the cemetery, after signing the S&P |
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Oct 2 2015, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 2 2015, 10:06 PM) My bankers tell me he is super desperate now, pushing the banks to quickly call purchasers so that they will take up loan offer letter and be ready for S&P signing. U mean Developer desperate? |
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Oct 2 2015, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 2 2015, 10:08 PM) I suppose Buyer must conduct due diligence 1st b4 sign SPA as Developer sell n build based on 'as is where as' basis Agreed! Thats why there is this thing called the Internet and forums.If people don't know, we tell them Make an informed purchase.Facts shall always be facts This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 2 2015, 10:12 PM |
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Oct 2 2015, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 2 2015, 10:09 PM) U mean Developer desperate? That's what I am told by the bankers He is pushing the bankers to call and coax the soon-to-be purchasers to accept the loan offer letter in the hope that they will not cancel or find out about the 15 acre cemetery. |
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Oct 2 2015, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 2 2015, 10:09 PM) Agreed! Thats why there is this thing called the Internet and forums. Internet n forum is gud source of infoIf people don't know, we tell them Make an informed purchase.Facts shall always be facts Having said tat, need to apply discretion as not all info is correct n genuine |
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Oct 2 2015, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 2 2015, 10:13 PM) Internet n forum is gud source of info That's true, nobody is asking anybody to follow blindly.Having said tat, need to apply discretion as not all info is correct n genuine Unless you are saying whatever I am spouting about the cemetery is false? Hehe This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 2 2015, 10:15 PM |
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Oct 2 2015, 10:22 PM
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[quote=dobson,Oct 2 2015, 10:11 PM]
That's what I am told by the bankers He is pushing the bankers to call and coax the soon-to-be purchasers to accept the loan offer letter in the hope that they will not cancel or find out about the 15 acre cemetery. [/quote Besides the Developer, the biggest beneficiary is Twinz Residence |
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Oct 2 2015, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 2 2015, 10:02 PM) I smell desperation... they're "hide" the cemetery info from u Suddenly a lot of people pushing O'hako to me. Came across a few lately. When asked about the 15 acres cemetery, they were like 'Oh really? How come I was not told?' |
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Oct 2 2015, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 2 2015, 10:22 PM) QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 2 2015, 10:11 PM) That's what I am told by the bankers He is pushing the bankers to call and coax the soon-to-be purchasers to accept the loan offer letter in the hope that they will not cancel or find out about the 15 acre cemetery. This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 2 2015, 11:00 PM |
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Oct 2 2015, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 2 2015, 10:28 PM) they're "hide" the cemetery info from u HahaIts either they hide or the developer hide. Then again, as agents they can't be that stupid not to find out first before selling right? Heh |
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Oct 2 2015, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 2 2015, 10:59 PM) Haha I guess agents also "hide" the info.. they need to cari makan Its either they hide or the developer hide. Then again, as agents they can't be that stupid not to find out first before selling right? Heh  |
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Oct 2 2015, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 2 2015, 11:04 PM) I guess agents also "hide" the info.. they need to cari makan  |
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Oct 2 2015, 11:16 PM
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yeah developer seem so desperate, keep calling and ask client loan status =.='
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Oct 2 2015, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(ims2628 @ Oct 2 2015, 11:16 PM) yeah developer seem so desperate, keep calling and ask client loan status =.=' Haha!How you know sis? You happen to be from PBB/MBB/RHB? You mean chase them to sign loan offer letter? |
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Oct 2 2015, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 2 2015, 11:19 PM) Haha! Few of my client is submitting their loan thru my side for few banks, and they got my contact from my client side and keep calling every two day asking me about status How you know sis? You happen to be from PBB/MBB/RHB? You mean chase them to sign loan offer letter?  |
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Oct 3 2015, 01:18 PM
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Buy property look for long term future that is link bridge to Taylor University in sunway. Rental must be good students wont see feng sui
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Oct 3 2015, 02:29 PM
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Luckily didn't rush into paying booking in the beginning. Did a site visit and the surrounding actually not bad. It's near to my current property but after what I has had read here about this project, I can count myself lucky not to purchase this condo.
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Oct 3 2015, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 3 2015, 01:18 PM) Buy property look for long term future that is link bridge to Taylor University in sunway. Rental must be good students wont see feng sui Any confirmation the bridge will materialise? It has been the selling point for few projects around this area and some project even VP-ed for years already. There's also another proposal they said will have direct access to Kesas. Btw, having the bridge might not always turn out to be favourable. Many will use that to skip toll and probably bring more traffic into the area. |
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Oct 3 2015, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(cait_sith @ Oct 3 2015, 02:29 PM) Luckily didn't rush into paying booking in the beginning. Did a site visit and the surrounding actually not bad. It's near to my current property but after what I has had read here about this project, I can count myself lucky not to purchase this condo. good for you! |
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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Oct 3 2015, 02:41 PM) Any confirmation the bridge will materialise? It has been the selling point for few projects around this area and some project even VP-ed for years already. There's also another proposal they said will have direct access to Kesas. Provided the purchaser is not particular about the 15 acre muslim cemeteryBtw, having the bridge might not always turn out to be favourable. Many will use that to skip toll and probably bring more traffic into the area. |
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 3 2015, 01:18 PM) Buy property look for long term future that is link bridge to Taylor University in sunway. Rental must be good students wont see feng sui Developer dun state link bridge in the SPATis is purely trust between Developer n Purchaser |
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 3 2015, 04:06 PM) Developer dun state link bridge in the SPA They will use all sorts of tactics to make you buyTis is purely trust between Developer n Purchaser |
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QUOTE(cait_sith @ Oct 3 2015, 02:29 PM) Luckily didn't rush into paying booking in the beginning. Did a site visit and the surrounding actually not bad. It's near to my current property but after what I has had read here about this project, I can count myself lucky not to purchase this condo. yup. lucky for u |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 3 2015, 04:09 PM) They will use all sorts of tactics to make you buy agreed  they can even "hide" info  |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 3 2015, 04:26 PM) agreed Malaysian developers, I can understand. But this is a Japanese developer they can even "hide" info  |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 3 2015, 04:29 PM) Malaysian developers, I can understand. But this is a Japanese developer all same leh |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 3 2015, 04:29 PM) Malaysian developers, I can understand. But this is a Japanese developer When come to profits, regardless of which developer  |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 3 2015, 04:31 PM) all same leh What ever happened to the traits attributed to Japanese companies/products that all of us are so used to?Honda ? Panasonic ? Canon ? Casio ? Nintendo ? Not forgetting this is their first project in Malaysia. This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 3 2015, 04:37 PM |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 3 2015, 04:35 PM) What ever happened to the traits attributed to Japanese companies/products that all of us are so used to? I suppose Management run by locals?Honda ? Panasonic ? Canon ? Casio ? Not forgetting this is their first project in Malaysia. |
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 3 2015, 04:38 PM) I suppose Management run by locals? HahaYou will get a heart attack if you read this. It's none other then a Japanese himself! I was told by the ex-staff that he is the eldest son of the Marimo founder. A family outcast it seems, that's why the younger brother is President and CEO of Marimo Japan & he is here in BolehLand. This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 3 2015, 04:44 PM |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 3 2015, 04:40 PM) Haha well maybe younger gen don't follow the old japanese style You will get a heart attack if you read this. Its none other then a Japanese himself! I was told he is the eldest son of the Marimo founder. |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 3 2015, 04:43 PM) well maybe younger gen don't follow the old japanese style Younger generation = 40s-50s ? |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 3 2015, 04:47 PM) Younger generation = 40s-50s ? 30s-40s |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 3 2015, 07:48 PM) 30s-40s No, I doubt he is that age.More of 40s to 50s. |
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Marimo Land Malaysia management itself is Japanese.
I was told by the ex-staff that he is the eldest son of the Marimo founder. A family outcast it seems, that's why the younger brother is President and CEO of Marimo Japan & he is here in BolehLand. |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 3 2015, 09:37 PM) Marimo Land Malaysia management itself is Japanese. I am not understand why people so interested to discuss about the Mr John family members...this is their personal matter...what is his age and who younger or elder...is it related to this Ohako project?I was told by the ex-staff that he is the eldest son of the Marimo founder. A family outcast it seems, that's why the younger brother is President and CEO of Marimo Japan & he is here in BolehLand. If some of you do not know his history, then please do not simply talked nonsense here...Mr John choose to come Malaysia as Marimo want to expand their business in other countries, plus his wife was from Malaysia with 3 kids here, so is not surprised Mr John was here to develop his new launch project Ohako...please learn how to respect others...but not purposely try to mislead other people... For me Mr John is very creative and great developer...from the overall concept and design of Ohako...you already can know his effort and hard work....if someone not interested...then may ignore this project but don't try to mislead other buyers....I never see such a developer with patience and willing to listen from buyers... And no need to kept on mentioned the new proposed cemetery...people already know it in the early stage....but it is quite a distance from Ohako and is opposite the river after the certain distance of empty land....I am not say want to help Mr John to talk something...but I just trying to telling the truth and my observation from last time until now...most of the potential buyers already noted about it and because of not beside the condo...that is why people accept it...plus the orientation of the building is not direct facing that new proposed cemetery...so is not a big deal if someone really like the concept and design of this project... Just feel someone like want to mislead people, that is why I just write something here...not purposely offence anyone...sorry for that....  This post has been edited by Kelvin0685: Oct 3 2015, 10:53 PM |
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was reading the version 1..
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Oct 3 2015, 10:31 PM) I am not understand why people so interested to discuss about the Mr John family members...this is their personal matter...what is his age and who younger or elder...is it related to this Ohako project? Aha! Here's another one who got bought over! Good evening!If some of you do not know his history, then please do not simply talked nonsense here...Mr John choose to come Malaysia as Marimo want to expand their business in other countries, plus his wife was from Malaysia with 3 kids here, so is not surprised Mr John was here to develop his new launch project Ohako...please learn how to respect others...but not purposely try to mislead other people... For me Mr John is very creative and great developer...from the overall concept and design of Ohako...you already can know his effort and hard work....if someone not interested...then may ignore this project but don't try to mislead other buyers....I never see such a developer with patience and willing to listen from buyers... And no need to kept on mentioned the new proposed cemetery...people already know it in the early stage....but it is quite a distance from Ohako and is opposite the river after the certain distance of empty land....I am not say want to help Mr John to talk something...but I just trying to telling the truth and my observation from last time until now...most of the potential buyers already noted about it and because of not beside the condo...that is why people accept it...plus the orientation of the building is not direct facing that new proposed cemetery...so is not a big deal if someone really like the concept and design of this project... Just feel someone like want to mislead people, that is why I just write something here...not purposely offence anyone...sorry for that.... Just a sec while I reply you shortly  |
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QUOTE I am not understand why people so interested to discuss about the Mr John family members...this is their personal matter...what is his age and who younger or elder...is it related to this Ohako project? I am just sharing with I know. Of course it matters, the individual itself heading Marimo plays a very important role QUOTE If some of you do not know his history, then please do not simply talked nonsense here...Mr John choose to come Malaysia as Marimo want to expand their business in other countries, plus his wife was from Malaysia with 3 kids here, so is not surprised Mr John was here to develop his new launch project Ohako...please learn how to respect others...but not purposely try to mislead other people... For me Mr John is very creative and great developer...from the overall concept and design of Ohako...you already can know his effort and hard work....if someone not interested...then may ignore this project but don't try to mislead other buyers....I never see such a developer with patience and willing to listen from buyers... Excuse me, when did I distort the facts? Do you think you can help me with the following :- 1. Your best friend, is not the eldest son ? (TRUE/FALSE) 2. Your best friend's younger brother, is not the President and CEO of Marimo Japan ? (TRUE/FALSE) No doubt he is very creative, that I can't deny. As for great developer, isn't it too early to say? As this is only his first high-rise project? We know he has built some bungalows prior to this. So shouldn't this be considered only his 2nd project? Thanks to all his 'listening', it caused so much delay to the project. BP took so long to approve. Which developer takes almost 1 year just to sign SPA? QUOTE And no need to kept on mentioned the new proposed cemetery...people already know it in the early stage....but it is quite a distance from Ohako and is opposite the river after the certain distance of empty land....I am not say want to help Mr John to talk something...but I just trying to telling the truth and my observation from last time until now...most of the potential buyers already noted about it and because of not beside the condo...that is why people accept it...plus the orientation of the building is not direct facing that new proposed cemetery...so is not a big deal if someone really like the concept and design of this project... I am just sharing. What's wrong in sharing? You are OK with the cemetery, fine. I have many friends who bought it, either because they don't give a damn f*** about the cemetery (mostly young people) or they are buying for investment. But do you know that a lot of people buying for own stay don't even know about the cemetery and from what I gather they are signing SPA this month? Imagine what will happen if they find out about the cemetery after signing the SPA & bank loan agreement? There will be no turning back. Its RM 500K, not RM 5K mind you You claim people already know? How many of those people coming to sign SPA know about the cemetery? Again, I have to agree that the orientation of both blocks is not directly facing the 15 acres muslim cemetery but do you also know that many chinese are pantang when it comes to living next to a cemetery even though its 200 meters away (so they claimed with the diagram) I am just keeping everyone informed, at the end of the day its up to the interested party to go to the cemetery site to see for themselves and make a decision. This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 3 2015, 11:40 PM |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 3 2015, 10:56 PM) was reading the version 1.. Really? Where?oh my.. reply all so hardcore |
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Brother Dorson not you already brought your dream house somewhere in puchong south? Why still very active in ohako? Is mr John own you money?
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 4 2015, 01:02 AM) Brother Dorson not you already brought your dream house somewhere in puchong south? Why still very active in ohako? Is mr John own you money? Morning Mr. hornbill_78,No, John Taro does not owe me a single cent. Besides, money did not go into his pocket anyways =) Many things he did which I am not happy about but I shall not continue further else people might say I am bad-mouthing him , especially his hardcore supporters like Kelvin0685, serene30 and foolmelon. I just want to share information, that's all. Nothing wrong in that I suppose? These are facts anyways. A lot of people who placed the RM 5,000 booking are at risk of buying something that they don't want thanks to the cemetery. Most probably they will regret it after finding out thanks to the developer being not truthful. My sources tell me he forbids anyone in the company to breathe a word about the cemetery. Buyers have to kept in the dark until they sign the S&P otherwise ... This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 4 2015, 11:44 AM |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 4 2015, 11:27 AM) Then again, if O'hako is taller then Koi Kinrara & Twinz... it should be minimal impact to both Koi Kinrara & Twinz.Maximum impact is still O'hako This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 4 2015, 11:37 AM |
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A picture is worth a thousand words
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Your must understand muslim cemetery usully is very greenty one. Family will plant tree to cover up th grave. Second the propose site current was full with illegal rubbish dumpling and open burning. The main purpose mbpj cover the land use is to address the problem.
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lol O'hako buyer gets "free" view of the cemetery.
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 4 2015, 12:36 PM) Your must understand muslim cemetery usully is very greenty one. Family will plant tree to cover up th grave. Second the propose site current was full with illegal rubbish dumpling and open burning. The main purpose mbpj cover the land use is to address the problem. Yes, 'usually' That's a good answer I just want potential purchasers to know that there is a 15 acre muslim cemetery right opposite the river. Being Chinese , they are usually pantang when it comes to cemeteries whether its a muslim cemetery or buddhist cemetery. Things like 'Covered or not', 'greenty' or not'.. Itu semua lain cerita. The main thing is = CEMETERY Thats all. This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 4 2015, 01:42 PM |
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Good for your to share info but too over seem you are trying sabotage this project. Why not talk more on internal design, pricing and etc.
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 4 2015, 01:27 PM) Yes, 'usually' That's a good answer Bro Dobson...we ald know it...thanks for the info...no need kept on repeated la... I just want potential purchasers to know that there is a 15 acre muslim cemetery right opposite the river. Being Chinese , they are usually pantang when it comes to cemeteries whether its a muslim cemetery or buddhist cemetery. Things like 'Covered or not', 'greenty' or not'.. Itu semua lain cerita. The main thing is = CEMETERY Thats all. This post has been edited by Kelvin0685: Oct 4 2015, 02:11 PM |
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This is their completed project in China recently:
Project Name : Polestar Garden Location : Suzhou, China Total Number of Towers : 12 Total Number of Units : 853 Certificate of Completion and Compliance (CCC) & Vacant Possession (VP) in August 2015. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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A sneak preview of what would be installed for Ohako condo...copied from their FB
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Status update of upgrading works on riverside road at Kampung Lembah Kinrara by MBSJ.
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Status Update of O'hako Site
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I can think of a couple of projects that is next to cemetery (eg. Silk Residence, Oval Damansara) but not discussed as hot as this O'hako. Is cemetery the real issue here or something else?
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Oct 4 2015, 03:11 PM) I can think of a couple of projects that is next to cemetery (eg. Silk Residence, Oval Damansara) but not discussed as hot as this O'hako. Is cemetery the real issue here or something else? If u have time, pay a visit to Oval D'sara n observe the occupancy as compared to D'sara Intan (opposite) |
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 4 2015, 02:03 PM) Good for your to share info but too over seem you are trying sabotage this project. Why not talk more on internal design, pricing and etc. How do you sabotage if these are all facts? Unless I fabricate stories or lies Mr. hornbill_78Before we even get to that, we have to make sure the basic thing is highlighted. No matter how beautiful the design or how cheap the price its no point if the cemetery is the main issue. I did admit in my one of my previous posts that the design is beautiful, though the show unit sucks! The price is also reasonable if you look around. Another pro would be since this is a Japanese developer, quality should be assured (I hope! keeping finger's crossed) This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 4 2015, 04:51 PM |
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Oct 4 2015, 03:11 PM) I can think of a couple of projects that is next to cemetery (eg. Silk Residence, Oval Damansara) but not discussed as hot as this O'hako. Is cemetery the real issue here or something else? Most probably those 2 developers were honest and sincere. Try reading the 1st thread about O'hako, one of ex-purchasers related his experience when he asked the SAs about this cemetery. I too had the same experience. |
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Oct 4 2015, 02:10 PM) Bro Dobson...we ald know it...thanks for the info...no need kept on repeated la... Just in case new innocent purchasers come to this thread, they won't have to time to read from the 1st post.Of course I have to keep repeating, especially when the official launch is so near. A lot of poor souls. I can understand why you ask me to keep quiet as you are one of the buyers Don't worry, since you believe in your best friend so much this project will be successful. |
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I don't see a reason why are you guys complaining that I am posting.
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 3 2015, 11:24 PM) I am just sharing with I know. Of course it matters, the individual itself heading Marimo plays a very important role Speechless? Excuse me, when did I distort the facts? Do you think you can help me with the following :- 1. Your best friend, is not the eldest son ? (TRUE/FALSE) 2. Your best friend's younger brother, is not the President and CEO of Marimo Japan ? (TRUE/FALSE) No doubt he is very creative, that I can't deny. As for great developer, isn't it too early to say? As this is only his first high-rise project? We know he has built some bungalows prior to this. So shouldn't this be considered only his 2nd project? Thanks to all his 'listening', it caused so much delay to the project. BP took so long to approve. Which developer takes almost 1 year just to sign SPA? I am just sharing. What's wrong in sharing? You are OK with the cemetery, fine. I have many friends who bought it, either because they don't give a damn f*** about the cemetery (mostly young people) or they are buying for investment. But do you know that a lot of people buying for own stay don't even know about the cemetery and from what I gather they are signing SPA this month? Imagine what will happen if they find out about the cemetery after signing the SPA & bank loan agreement? There will be no turning back. Its RM 500K, not RM 5K mind you You claim people already know? How many of those people coming to sign SPA know about the cemetery? Again, I have to agree that the orientation of both blocks is not directly facing the 15 acres muslim cemetery but do you also know that many chinese are pantang when it comes to living next to a cemetery even though its 200 meters away (so they claimed with the diagram) I am just keeping everyone informed, at the end of the day its up to the interested party to go to the cemetery site to see for themselves and make a decision. Expected it anyways |
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Hi,can I check with u guys what development is going on I front of my view ya? At first I tot is Ohako.... But now just found out that Ohako is beside koi...
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 4 2015, 04:55 PM) I don't see a reason why are you guys complaining that I am posting. No point you kept on repeating the same issue. Potential buyer if read this forum definitely had already read your previous post.To me, if the potential purchaser does not mind the cemetery. He will still buy. So what is the issue exactly? |
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 4 2015, 10:22 PM) No point you kept on repeating the same issue. Potential buyer if read this forum definitely had already read your previous post. Like what Mr. jacky91 said, do you think a potential purchaser will have the time to read from page 1 to page 7?They are being pressured to make a decision quickly hence they have to do their homework ASAP. I am just assisting them. Everyone is free to post what they want to post here aye? |
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Too much is annoying. Hope you understand.
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 4 2015, 11:11 PM) Too much is annoying. Hope you understand. HeheI believe you also cancelled? Perhaps you would like to skip this thread or maybe stop notifications to your email. |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 4 2015, 11:55 PM) Maybe someone should tell Malaysiakini to stop reporting about 1MDB too! Your interest is a bit too high. We don't see you as interested to bring out this subject for Twin Residence and other nearby properties. |
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QUOTE(kimkim84 @ Oct 4 2015, 05:05 PM) Hi,can I check with u guys what development is going on I front of my view ya? At first I tot is Ohako.... But now just found out that Ohako is beside koi... Looks like there will be another project in the vicinity  |
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1MDB all of us know is con job.. but I think Ohako is good project with good price.
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Fine fine fine.
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 5 2015, 08:53 PM) Fine fine fine. Haha if you have no bad intention you need not bother with what other people say.I will go to other nearby properties too ok? Happy now? |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 4 2015, 10:27 PM) Like what Mr. jacky91 said, do you think a potential purchaser will have the time to read from page 1 to page 7? i will They are being pressured to make a decision quickly hence they have to do their homework ASAP. I am just assisting them. Everyone is free to post what they want to post here aye?  i read from page 1 to page 70 before i decide to make a booking. its 500k not 5k lol. |
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What's the solution provided by the developer to mitigate the impact of the cemetery?
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Oct 5 2015, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(zlancer1989 @ Oct 5 2015, 09:42 PM) i will so u buying i read from page 1 to page 70 before i decide to make a booking. its 500k not 5k lol. |
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QUOTE(zlancer1989 @ Oct 5 2015, 09:37 PM) This is epic. i can't imagine if i bought a unit here and not informed by anyone about this. Some units in Koi Kinrara facing the cemetery on left. Any complains from the buyers there? Just want to know what people think. Did they found out after getting the keys? Or they knew it when they purchase and just doesn't bother about it? |
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Oct 5 2015, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Oct 5 2015, 10:20 PM) What's the solution provided by the developer to mitigate the impact of the cemetery? give more discount / fully furnish unit to make investor accept the cemetery. |
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Oct 5 2015, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(csting87 @ Oct 5 2015, 10:32 PM) give more discount / fully furnish unit to make investor accept the cemetery. How much discount given? What's the furnish item given for FOC? |
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Oct 5 2015, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 5 2015, 09:03 PM) Haha if you have no bad intention you need not bother with what other people say. To be frank, I don't really care. But just to make people happy, I will just play along and post in other threads.Problem is, O'hako is the nearest to the cemetery. Even if I go kepo in the Twinz thread, it makes no sense. Like I said, I just wanna share that's all. Nothing else |
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Oct 5 2015, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Oct 5 2015, 10:30 PM) Some units in Koi Kinrara facing the cemetery on left. Any complains from the buyers there? Just want to know what people think. Did they found out after getting the keys? Or they knew it when they purchase and just doesn't bother about it? Nobody knows Lets just wait and see what happens after the first batch of buyers sign their S&P and find out about the cemetery later. Don't forget, this is a Japanese developer. Not your usual Malaysian developer =)That cemetery you mentioned is peanuts, compared to this 15 acre cemetery ...m a s s i v e... This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 5 2015, 11:30 PM |
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Oct 5 2015, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(zlancer1989 @ Oct 5 2015, 09:42 PM) i will Not many are like you i read from page 1 to page 70 before i decide to make a booking. its 500k not 5k lol.*thumbs up* |
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Oct 5 2015, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(zlancer1989 @ Oct 5 2015, 09:37 PM) This is epic. i can't imagine if i bought a unit here and not informed by anyone about this. LOL!See, this is what I mean. Nobody will tell you, unless you korek the information yourself. I hope more people will make an informed purchase. Its a good project, no doubt. I have to admit. Pricing, design, concept (very family oriented) Kudos John Taro & This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 6 2015, 08:59 AM |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 5 2015, 10:25 PM) so u buying hmmm... No thanks  |
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Oct 6 2015, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(zlancer1989 @ Oct 5 2015, 11:38 PM) hmmm... No thanks I notice people buying for own stay will definately stay away from O'hako.The same does not apply to investors though |
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Oct 6 2015, 01:11 PM
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Cancel the project if what you expected?
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Oct 6 2015, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 6 2015, 01:11 PM) Cancel the project if what you expected? Mr. hornbill_78,Was the above directed to me? If yes, I am sorry to dissapoint you but my answer would be a firm NO. Why cancel such a good project? We are all waiting eagerly for the end product of this Japanese masterpiece |
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Oct 6 2015, 06:02 PM
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one hand you kept telling people don't buy this project? I confusing..
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Oct 6 2015, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 6 2015, 09:00 AM) I notice people buying for own stay will definately stay away from O'hako. sure lor..The same does not apply to investors though own stay sure very serious. but invest purpose, it's not u staying but tenant (other people). so why need to care near / facing cemetery |
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Oct 6 2015, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 6 2015, 06:02 PM) one hand you kept telling people don't buy this project? I confusing.. Hey Mr. hornbill_78,Is there some kind of a mistake somewhere ? I have never once said don't buy. My intention is to let people know about the cemetery. If they are ok with it or buying for investment, why not? My favourite line -> Make an informed purchase. Don't bodoh-bodoh buy without knowing there is cemetery if your intention is for own stay [if you are a typical cina who is pantang about such things] I personally cancelled not because of anything else but the cemetery. Thats all This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 6 2015, 10:15 PM |
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Oct 7 2015, 07:52 AM
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Whatever you said people already noted no point highlighting the same issue again and again. You must also fair to the Japanese developer.
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Oct 7 2015, 12:07 PM
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good show going on..
pop corn time |
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Oct 7 2015, 01:16 PM
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The show still on?
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Oct 7 2015, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 7 2015, 07:52 AM) Whatever you said people already noted no point highlighting the same issue again and again. You must also fair to the Japanese developer. Like I said, old batch of people already know. So you claim. To be frank, many of the existing interested purchasers who placed the RM 5,000 booking does not know. I cancelled because of cemetery, so I asked him "Are you going to let the rest who placed the RM 5,0000 booking know about the cemetery? He told me "Cannot! Later all cancel, who is going to buy my project?" I wished I recorded this conversation.That's one thing. Secondly, what about the new batch of people who are going to buy this coming Official Launch? They won't know unless they read this thread, in which I don't think many of them won't have the time to read from page 1 of the first thread. You have to be fair to the purchasers as well. Their hard earned money. This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 7 2015, 02:06 PM |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 6 2015, 10:05 PM) Hey Mr. hornbill_78, I support. Believe your intention for sharing haha.Is there some kind of a mistake somewhere ? I have never once said don't buy. My intention is to let people know about the cemetery. If they are ok with it or buying for investment, why not? My favourite line -> Make an informed purchase. Don't bodoh-bodoh buy without knowing there is cemetery if your intention is for own stay [if you are a typical cina who is pantang about such things] I personally cancelled not because of anything else but the cemetery. Thats all |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 7 2015, 12:07 PM) good show going on.. From version 1 to version 2pop corn time Show must run haha. We watch show |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 7 2015, 02:04 PM) Like I said, old batch of people already know. So you claim. To be frank, many of the existing interested purchasers who placed the RM 5,000 booking does not know. I cancelled because of cemetery, so I asked him "Are you going to let the rest who placed the RM 5,0000 booking know about the cemetery? He told me "Cannot! Later all cancel, who is going to buy my project?" I wished I recorded this conversation. That's one thing. Secondly, what about the new batch of people who are going to buy this coming Official Launch? They won't know unless they read this thread, in which I don't think many of them won't have the time to read from page 1 of the first thread. You have to be fair to the purchasers as well. Their hard earned money. nice bro, sugguet you can walk around the ofit and tell all the puchaser |
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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Oct 7 2015, 04:08 PM) nice bro, sugguet you can walk around the ofit and tell all the puchaser dobson can do social service  |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 7 2015, 04:18 PM) good idea What color T shirt going to wear ? Not many color left anyway ..... dobson can do social service |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 7 2015, 04:18 PM) good idea What color T shirt going to wear ? Not many color left anyway ..... dobson can do social service |
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Oct 7 2015, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 7 2015, 04:26 PM) What color T shirt going to wear ? Not many color left anyway ..... maybe can wear white, the colur of M tombstone |
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Oct 7 2015, 04:49 PM
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A gud reminder to all prospective buyers
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Oct 7 2015, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(jonathandeho @ Oct 7 2015, 02:05 PM) From version 1 to version 2 I wonder how the show gonna end Show must run haha. We watch show |
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Oct 7 2015, 05:38 PM
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Ohako already do best what their can do to mitigate the issue. Next just let purchaser to judge whether want to buy or not? This forum may have non-Chinese follower also for them the cemetery issue is not big deal to them.
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Oct 7 2015, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 7 2015, 05:38 PM) Ohako already do best what their can do to mitigate the issue. Next just let purchaser to judge whether want to buy or not? This forum may have non-Chinese follower also for them the cemetery issue is not big deal to them. yeah. I remember one of my friends house is juz beside cemetery but he malay lor |
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Oct 7 2015, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 7 2015, 05:38 PM) Ohako already do best what their can do to mitigate the issue. Next just let purchaser to judge whether want to buy or not? This forum may have non-Chinese follower also for them the cemetery issue is not big deal to them. How do you define 'Ohako already do best what their can do to mitigate the issue'To me, if you inform people about the cemetery then propose mitigation barulah kire mitigation. If you don't tell at all, how is it mitigation in the first place Mr. hornbill_78? Hehe Nothing to mitigate if potential purchasers don't know about the cemetery. From what I see, this is what they are currently doing. Adoi... Berapa kali nak cakap ni? Like I said again & again & again, I present the facts to potential buyers. Final decision is still theirs. Rather then buying without knowing there is a 15 acre Muslim cemetery right to it. This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 7 2015, 08:23 PM |
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Oct 7 2015, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 7 2015, 05:57 PM) yeah. I remember one of my friends house is juz beside cemetery Exactly! but he malay lor To me, only 4 types of people will buy 1. Super modern-thinking buyers 2. Young buyers 3. Investors 4. Orang Melayu |
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Oct 7 2015, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 7 2015, 08:25 PM) Exactly! I disagree with no.2 Young Buyers. there's people in these group who dislike cemetery near their house To me, only 4 types of people will buy 1. Super modern-thinking buyers 2. Young buyers 3. Investors 4. Orang Melayu |
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Oct 7 2015, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 7 2015, 08:25 PM) Exactly! Let me add onTo me, only 4 types of people will buy 1. Super modern-thinking buyers 2. Young buyers 3. Investors 4. Orang Melayu 5. Orang India 6. Foreigners |
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Oct 7 2015, 08:56 PM
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cemetery is always a big no no .. Why buy one near a cemetery unless its sibeh cheap then maybe just maybe can consider depending on what kind of "cemetery view".. Can afford to buy is one thing - next time want to sell also headache.. and the capital appreciation will be low in comparison.. competition for condos is getting stiffer by the day - plenty of choices out there.. |
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Oct 7 2015, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(nookie188 @ Oct 7 2015, 08:56 PM) cemetery is always a big no no .. yeah. nowadays got a lot of choice.. don't needed to buy near / view cemetery Why buy one near a cemetery unless its sibeh cheap then maybe just maybe can consider depending on what kind of "cemetery view".. Can afford to buy is one thing - next time want to sell also headache.. and the capital appreciation will be low in comparison.. competition for condos is getting stiffer by the day - plenty of choices out there.. |
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Oct 7 2015, 09:05 PM
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Copied from Marimo FB:
Good news everyone! The day we have been eagerly waiting for has finally arrived. We obtained our Advertisement Permit & Developer's License (APDL) from the Ministry of Housing and Local Government this afternoon 👍 ========================================================= Nombor Lesen 14126-1/10-2014/0843 (L) Tempoh 08/10/2015 - 07/10/2017 Nombor Permit 14126-1/10/2017/0843 (P) Tempoh 08/10/2015 - 07/10/2017 Congratulations to Marimo Land... |
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Oct 7 2015, 09:09 PM
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Oct 7 2015, 09:10 PM
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Congrats to the developer for APDL
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Oct 7 2015, 09:14 PM
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hmmm any good deal for bumi lot? dont mind buying if the deal is really good.
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Oct 7 2015, 11:17 PM
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Congratz to the developer, Marimo Land for getting APDL
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Oct 7 2015, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 7 2015, 08:29 PM) I disagree with no.2 Young Buyers. there's people in these group who dislike cemetery near their house Maybe not all ?A lot of the buyers are young ones, according to the bankers |
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Oct 7 2015, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 7 2015, 08:51 PM) Let me add on Indians are like Chinese I believe. 5. Orang India 6. Foreigners Foreigners how to buy? Its no where near RM 1,000,000 |
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Oct 7 2015, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 7 2015, 11:21 PM) Maybe not all ? well it could be 50/50. some okay, some not A lot of the buyers are young ones, according to the bankers |
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Oct 8 2015, 09:30 AM
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Bacalah sendiri
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 8 2015, 09:30 AM) Bacalah sendiri |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 8 2015, 09:30 AM) Bacalah sendiri buyer have to do all homework before make the booking,don't trust what other ppl talk, just drive and have a look around the site. you pay for it and you gain from it, other won't involve |
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Oct 8 2015, 04:34 PM
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i can see a way Ohako make a comeback for the money that the invested in this project. By sueing dobson for defamation. correct me if im wrong. the developer only consider mislead customer if they misrepresent their product. Since the cemetery is outside of the "product" scope so there is no element of misleading or deceptive. Unless when u ask the sales representative and they say that place is something other than cemetery. then only is consider misleading. Please have a solid ground when u saying a developer deceptive or misleading
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Oct 8 2015, 05:13 PM
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Some people always have bad intention to sabotage this project.
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Oct 8 2015, 05:16 PM
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buyer have to understand they have responsibility to do their own homework. If u are lose rm200 because of the cemetery take that as a lesson and not whining like a children
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Oct 8 2015, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 8 2015, 05:13 PM) Some people always have bad intention to sabotage this project. |
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QUOTE(winsonlee888 @ Oct 8 2015, 04:34 PM) i can see a way Ohako make a comeback for the money that the invested in this project. By sueing dobson for defamation. correct me if im wrong. the developer only consider mislead customer if they misrepresent their product. Since the cemetery is outside of the "product" scope so there is no element of misleading or deceptive. Unless when u ask the sales representative and they say that place is something other than cemetery. then only is consider misleading. Please have a solid ground when u saying a developer deceptive or misleading When talking to SA, they indeed misled customers. I remember being told by the SA that the reason this project is so cheap and nice is because this is the developer's first venture in Malaysia, but the truth it is cheap is because of the cemetary! Factoring the cemetary, this project is no longer cheap, it is just priced in. |
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Oct 8 2015, 08:03 PM
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Adoi!
When I share, you wanna sue me for defamation. State facts also salah ke? |
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Oct 8 2015, 08:04 PM
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We share information, let them drive around & make a final decision to buy or not to buy.
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Oct 8 2015, 08:27 PM
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Same as you ohako also know the cemetery project later on the land below to Mbpj not mbsj. What purpose of the land use is beyond their control. Talk ohako hide the info is not true.
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Oct 8 2015, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 8 2015, 08:27 PM) Same as you ohako also know the cemetery project later on the land below to Mbpj not mbsj. What purpose of the land use is beyond their control. Talk ohako hide the info is not true. u work with them |
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Oct 8 2015, 10:44 PM
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Luckily bot some popcorn n soda earlier
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 8 2015, 08:27 PM) Same as you ohako also know the cemetery project later on the land below to Mbpj not mbsj. What purpose of the land use is beyond their control. Talk ohako hide the info is not true. When I say hide, I meant after it was discovered in April (weren't u the first person who shared the cemetery news?) they did not bother informing the potential purchasers who had placed the RM 5K booking.As a Japanese company, they should be more "gentleman" and not keep pushing and chasing the potential purchasers to quickly apply for bank loan and settle the S&P as soon as possible in the hope that by the time the they find out about the cemetery, it will be too late. This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 8 2015, 11:36 PM |
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Oct 8 2015, 10:52 PM
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im stating he fact also. dobson claiming Ohako hide the cemetery from buyer. I dare u to go their sales gallery and speak out loud there. See if they will charge u for defamation or not. If u dont dare then dont hide ur identity in forum. As you see from early of this thread im trying to let go my unit myself. But the way u act is over reacting. If u can afford a property please act mature. State a fact with your base line
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Oct 8 2015, 10:55 PM
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Any citation can refer that japanese bust me "gentlemen"? when u use the word hide will mislead other forumer. why now only u clarify? Do u receive lawyer letter from Ohako? some1 should start selling popcorn
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QUOTE(winsonlee888 @ Oct 8 2015, 10:52 PM) im stating he fact also. dobson claiming Ohako hide the cemetery from buyer. I dare u to go their sales gallery and speak out loud there. See if they will charge u for defamation or not. If u dont dare then dont hide ur identity in forum. As you see from early of this thread im trying to let go my unit myself. But the way u act is over reacting. If u can afford a property please act mature. State a fact with your base line Just a sec, if I were to do that. I don't think they will sue me for defamationI am just stating facts. Informing people about cemetery. How is that defamation? Muslim Cemetery Opposite O'hako & Twinz = Fact Full stop |
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Oct 8 2015, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(winsonlee888 @ Oct 8 2015, 10:55 PM) Any citation can refer that japanese bust me "gentlemen"? when u use the word hide it mislead other forumer. why now only u clarify? Do u receive lawyer letter from Ohako? some1 should start selling popcorn I don't remember using the word 'mislead' |
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QUOTE(value_investor @ Oct 8 2015, 07:04 PM) When talking to SA, they indeed misled customers. I remember being told by the SA that the reason this project is so cheap and nice is because this is the developer's first venture in Malaysia, but the truth it is cheap is because of the cemetary! Factoring the cemetary, this project is no longer cheap, it is just priced in. Please define cheap. It all depend on which project you benchmark against. you should blame yourself for asking the wrong question. You go to all property sales galery which salesman will tell their project expensive. they will say is vale for money and they will find alot of fact to make it sound worth every single sen u spend. If u really wan a developer to be so "gentlemen" then i think u should ask dobsonto start a new developer company because he seem to be keen to be too honest |
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 Check out the post in the middle This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 8 2015, 11:03 PM |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 8 2015, 10:59 PM) I don't remember using the word 'mislead' Any citation can refer that japanese bust me "gentlemen"? when u use the word hide will mislead other forumer. why now only u clarify? Do u receive lawyer letter from Ohako? some1 should start selling popcornQUOTE(dobson @ Oct 8 2015, 10:50 PM) When I say hide, I meant after it was discovered in April (weren't u the first person who shared the cemetery news?) they did not bother informing the potential purchasers who had placed the RM 5K booking. this is where u use the word hide. i dint say u say mislead but ur "hide" misleadingAs a Japanese company, they should be more "gentleman" and not quickly urge the potential purchasers to apply for bank loan and settle the S&P as soon as possible. |
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QUOTE(winsonlee888 @ Oct 8 2015, 11:02 PM) Any citation can refer that japanese bust me "gentlemen"? when u use the word hide will mislead other forumer. why now only u clarify? Do u receive lawyer letter from Ohako? some1 should start selling popcorn By not revealing, isn't it hiding? No?this is where u use the word hide. i dint say u say mislead but ur "hide" misleading What would you call it then? |
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Oct 8 2015, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 8 2015, 11:03 PM) By not revealing, isn't it hiding? No? are u going to pay me for giving u free lesson. i wanna sit back and have my popcorn too. some1 please help dobson to differentiate. he seem to have problem understanding englishWhat would you call it then? |
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QUOTE(value_investor @ Oct 8 2015, 07:04 PM) When talking to SA, they indeed misled customers. I remember being told by the SA that the reason this project is so cheap and nice is because this is the developer's first venture in Malaysia, but the truth it is cheap is because of the cemetary! Factoring the cemetary, this project is no longer cheap, it is just priced in. Since everyone is kutuk-ing me like hell, please please please allow me to say something here.To be fair to Marimo, the cerita about the cemetery only came about in April when Mr. hornbil_78 shared the information here in Lowyat. Prior to that, everyone only knew about the small kuci Muslim cemetery opposite Tower B (not exactly opposite but somewhere there) To me, O'hako is reasonably priced, not cheap. That's for sure. Reason being maybe its because its Marimo's first project in Malaysia. Certainly not because of the cemetery or the STP. In this aspect, my opinions differ from Mr. value_investor |
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QUOTE(winsonlee888 @ Oct 8 2015, 11:07 PM) are u going to pay me for giving u free lesson. i wanna sit back and have my popcorn too. some1 please help dobson to differentiate. he seem to have problem understanding english Alamak, when you don't tell something... Isn't it hiding?Or can I use a different word then ? dishonest perhaps? |
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Oct 8 2015, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(winsonlee888 @ Oct 8 2015, 11:07 PM) are u going to pay me for giving u free lesson. i wanna sit back and have my popcorn too. some1 please help dobson to differentiate. he seem to have problem understanding english Oh! ok ok Sorry, thousand apologies Mr. winsonlee888. Ini bukan saya ada problem understanding English. Ini pasal saye salah bace ayat Mr. winsonlee888. I am sorry, I stand corrected. |
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Oct 8 2015, 11:13 PM
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now u saying something neutral. this is for Ohako personnel use.
http://kensomuse.com/blog/2015/10/06/so-is...y/#comment-1750 i can say dobson is in the same position as the peugeot owner. ur word in this forum is like the sticker mention in the article. think before u speak in public. i really wanna see you apologizing on newspaper. becoz of the unhappiness of the rm200 lost u have to spend thousand to publish on newspaper. worth to read with a cup of teh tarik |
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Oct 8 2015, 11:15 PM
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Hope Ohako will take action. hope my effort wont be in vain since ohako really is a good project i would say(personal opinion) just that the APDL drag too long and my company had launch new project which i entitle staff discount. if not i wouldnt have let go my unit
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Oct 8 2015, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(winsonlee888 @ Oct 8 2015, 11:13 PM) now u saying something neutral. this is for Ohako personnel use. Chop!!! This is not the first time I am saying something neutral.http://kensomuse.com/blog/2015/10/06/so-is...y/#comment-1750 i can say dobson is in the same position as the peugeot owner. ur word in this forum is like the sticker mention in the article. think before u speak in public. i really wanna see you apologizing on newspaper. becoz of the unhappiness of the rm200 lost u have to spend thousand to publish on newspaper. worth to read with a cup of teh tarik I did mention before in one of my previous posts, the pros and cons of O'hako (in my personal opinion) If this project was not good, I won't have placed the RM 5K booking myself. Unfortunately I had to pull out because of the cemetery. I am not sore because of the RM 200 sir. I gladly signed on the stakeholder's letter so to burn the RM 200 is tarak hal Then again, thanks for the advice and info Mr. winsonlee888. Maybe I should not say any more negative things after this. I will just share as general knowledge. "15 acre Muslim Cemetery opposite O'hako & Twinz. Check before you buy " Now, that should be considered stating facts right? As for the existing folks who paid the RM 5K booking but still don't know about it, I wish them good luck This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 8 2015, 11:20 PM |
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you can say negative word. but not with misleading element. Finally u had grown up dobson. thats how a mature adult pick their word
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Oct 8 2015, 11:23 PM
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Oct 8 2015, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(winsonlee888 @ Oct 8 2015, 11:22 PM) you can say negative word. but not with misleading element. Finally u had grown up dobson. thats how a mature adult pick their word HahahaCome on, you are telling me negative words are not misleading? Impossible right coz earlier you told me 'hide' is misleading. Apa lagi perkataan yang negatif? |
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Oct 8 2015, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(winsonlee888 @ Oct 8 2015, 11:23 PM) quote of the day: Mana ada? My emotions semua ok je?Dont let your emotion overrule share share share!!! |
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Oct 8 2015, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 8 2015, 11:26 PM) I am enjoying every single minute of this. |
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 8 2015, 05:13 PM) Some people always have bad intention to sabotage this project. Hmm... When you first share about the cemetery back in April, it is OK.But when I share few times, it becomes sabotage? Besides, what's wrong in sharing? Macam tak betul je? |
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Oct 9 2015, 12:36 AM
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Tq Mr dobson, for stating the fact and sharing the info. You hv every right to share it in lowyat forum. Towards the end is th end buyer decision whether to proceed or not. Whether the developer want to inform their promising buyer is a next issue. Please don't mix up with both scenario. Cheers
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Oct 9 2015, 08:39 AM
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Will continue sharing but if people do ask for opinion, I will give my personal views
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 9 2015, 02:03 PM) Brensek bro you sound like a brochure collector. Csr / charity work |
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Oct 9 2015, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(winsonlee888 @ Oct 8 2015, 11:22 PM) you can say negative word. but not with misleading element. Finally u had grown up dobson. thats how a mature adult pick their word QUOTE(winsonlee888 @ Oct 8 2015, 11:23 PM) quote of the day: Thank you sir for all your kind words in this forum. Have learned a lot from you. Lesson learnt for those who were over-reacting.Dont let your emotion overrule |
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Oct 9 2015, 03:26 PM
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"New bridge and riverside road connecting to Taylor's University Lakeside Campus will be built.*"
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QUOTE(csting87 @ Oct 9 2015, 03:26 PM) "New bridge and riverside road connecting to Taylor's University Lakeside Campus will be built.*" Terms and conditions apply.why got " * " does it mean subject to change? |
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Oct 9 2015, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 9 2015, 03:29 PM) :dup: your connection something wrong kah?from yesterday I see u double post  |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 9 2015, 04:28 PM) your connection something wrong kah? My external mouse. It sends two clicks with one button click.from yesterday I see u double post The internal touchpad is ok. |
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Oct 9 2015, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 9 2015, 04:34 PM) My external mouse. It sends two clicks with one button click. kasi tukar that external mouse The internal touchpad is ok. |
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Oct 9 2015, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 9 2015, 04:38 PM) kasi tukar that external mouse It sends two clicks in the same second. So the forum server can't pick up in it's flood control. |
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QUOTE(csting87 @ Oct 9 2015, 03:26 PM) "New bridge and riverside road connecting to Taylor's University Lakeside Campus will be built.*" Info from brochure? I think because it's not the developer to build it and yet to be approved?why got " * " does it mean subject to change? Btw, how to access Ohako site? I went to Koi Kinrara and saw the adjacent site already fenced up for twinz residence which they even cover the connecting road from Koi. Future how to access Ohako? |
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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Oct 9 2015, 05:45 PM) Info from brochure? I think because it's not the developer to build it and yet to be approved? Hi thecaterpillar,Btw, how to access Ohako site? I went to Koi Kinrara and saw the adjacent site already fenced up for twinz residence which they even cover the connecting road from Koi. Future how to access Ohako? You need to go from the jalan belakang, along the Klang river. By the way, are you aware that there is a 15 acre muslim cemetery across the Klang river.fyi only |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 10 2015, 12:41 AM) Hi thecaterpillar, Yup, well aware of that cemetery. You need to go from the jalan belakang, along the Klang river. By the way, are you aware that there is a 15 acre muslim cemetery across the Klang river.fyi only Hurm, so future access road not going through Japan Pipit??? |
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Well for property investors i suggest you look at 188 suites (ex Fraser Residence). It was near a cemetery. The subsale prices now is going lower than the initial launch prices 3 years ago.
I think this project might suffer from same fate. Another good thing is according to HDA you have a right to reject the property if completion is less than 50%. THe developer will have to pay you back |
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Oct 10 2015, 11:33 AM
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Pity, looks like a beautiful piece of design.
Anyone knows tower a or tower b will be facing the cemetery? Or both also facing? 492k is not that cheap also.. |
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QUOTE(JC999 @ Oct 10 2015, 11:31 AM) Well for property investors i suggest you look at 188 suites (ex Fraser Residence). It was near a cemetery. The subsale prices now is going lower than the initial launch prices 3 years ago. thanks for sharing info.I think this project might suffer from same fate. Another good thing is according to HDA you have a right to reject the property if completion is less than 50%. THe developer will have to pay you back yup, I can feel the project will be same. if really want, can buy subsale |
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QUOTE(berdorki @ Oct 10 2015, 11:33 AM) Pity, looks like a beautiful piece of design. Cheap or not is not by looking at the price, but also this be to look at the size of the unit, concept, and density... My 2 c... Lol... Have cemetery definitely will affect your chances to let go in the future no matter what. But if you intend to stay until u r gone from this world, well... No need to think lor.Anyone knows tower a or tower b will be facing the cemetery? Or both also facing? 492k is not that cheap also.. |
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Original Post Shared By hornbill_78 https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=73860499  1. Signage at Tanah Perkuburan Islam 15 ekar PJS 4  2. Information regarding Tanah Perkuburan Islam 15 ekar PJS 4 found on Taman Medan ADUN's Website Link to website :- Tanah Perkuburan PJS 4  3a. Distance Between Muslim Cemetery & both O'hako and Twinz (Screenshot)  3b. Distance Between Muslim Cemetery & both O'hako and Twinz (Actual Image)  4. Pelan Lokasi Tanah Perkuburan Islam 15 ekar PJS 4 which I believe was obtained from MBPJ  👉 Direct Link To Pelan Lokasi Tanah Perkuburan Islam 15 ekar PJS 4 (Click to Download) 5. Here's a view of the future 15 acre Muslim Cemetery. Please note that this photo was taken from Koi Kinrara. Hence the actual distance is actually much nearer.  * Credit goes to MillionDreamer.com This post has been edited by dobson: Nov 27 2015, 05:30 PM |
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Oct 11 2015, 09:26 PM
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Finally the snp signing is coming...
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Overview of Ohako Condo by Marimo Land...
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Upgrading road in behind of Ohako...
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Hopefully the new bridge and riverside road connecting to Taylor's University would be really built...
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Oct 11 2015, 09:54 PM
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Oct 11 2015, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Oct 11 2015, 09:41 PM) Hopefully the new bridge and riverside road connecting to Taylor's University would be really built... Based on the layout, if your unit is facing internal swimming pool view, it won't direct see the huge cemetery view right? (P/S: Do not choose the corner unit on top of the block should be okay) |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 11 2015, 09:54 PM) dear Kelvin0685 are u agent for tis project I am one of the buyer who placed the 5k booking...since March until now... Going to sign snp soon...currently waiting for loan approval |
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Oct 11 2015, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Oct 11 2015, 10:04 PM) I am one of the buyer who placed the 5k booking...since March until now... I wish u good luck for the loan Going to sign snp soon...currently waiting for loan approval |
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QUOTE(yck1987 @ Oct 11 2015, 09:58 PM) Based on the layout, if your unit is facing internal swimming pool view, it won't direct see the huge cemetery view right? Be honest...I had visited the site a few times as before that when we got to know the proposed cemetery...my galf ask me to give up this project as she thought the mentioned new proposed cemetery is just beside the condo...but after we make a site visit...she totally changed her mind and ask me to continue no give up....haha....that is why I am still here.... (P/S: Do not choose the corner unit on top of the block should be okay) This post has been edited by Kelvin0685: Oct 11 2015, 10:08 PM |
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Oct 11 2015, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 11 2015, 10:06 PM) I wish u good luck for the loan Thanks... |
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Oct 11 2015, 10:04 PM) I am one of the buyer who placed the 5k booking...since March until now... How many % sold now?Going to sign snp soon...currently waiting for loan approval |
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Oct 11 2015, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 11 2015, 10:15 PM) How many % sold now? My last visit to their sales gallery as on yesterday....I think should be around 60%....and quite a lot of people going to their sneak preview after they obtained their APDL with advertisement in newspaper...so the latest one I have no idea...you may check with their sales persons...as I just stay there awhile with other buyers...This post has been edited by Kelvin0685: Oct 11 2015, 10:19 PM |
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Oct 11 2015, 10:19 PM) My last visit to their sales gallery as on yesterday....I think should be around 60%....and quite a lot of people going to their sneak preview after they obtained their APDL with advertisement in newspaper...so the latest one I have no idea...you may check with their sales persons...as I just stay there awhile with other buyers... not bad managed to get 60% even with cemetery issues |
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After so many months investigation and did a lot of homework and also going to site and their sales gallery for a few rounds to understand every aspects...last Saturday me and my galf got a clear picture about this Ohako and just hopefully for loan approval...den can sign snp close case...
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 11 2015, 10:22 PM) not bad managed to get 60% even with cemetery issues HahaLogically speaking, I believe many still don't know about the cemetery. A friend of mine went yesterday, was speaking to an old uncle which placed the RM 5,000 booking. As expected, he did not know about it as well. All he knew was the STP and the smaller Muslim cemetery nearer to Tower B & Koi Kinrara |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 11 2015, 10:22 PM) not bad managed to get 60% even with cemetery issues if someone as me really go to understand and do homework...then you will know is not an issue at all...otherwise my galf ald stop me....but be honest quite tired.... finally they got APDL... |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 11 2015, 10:22 PM) not bad managed to get 60% even with cemetery issues Ever heard of the two words 's.t.i.c.k.e.r. g.a.m.e' ? |
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Oct 11 2015, 10:24 PM) if someone as me really go to understand and do homework...then you will know is not an issue at all...otherwise my galf ald stop me....but be honest quite tired.... I agree with you Kelvin0685. finally they got APDL... Before doing the homework, they need to know the facts. I believe you are one of the few who are not particular about living next to a Muslim cemetery. |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 11 2015, 10:24 PM) Haha so the unker decide to buy or cancel Logically speaking, I believe many still don't know about the cemetery. A friend of mine went yesterday, was speaking to an old uncle which placed the RM 5,000 booking. As expected, he did not know about it as well. All he knew was the STP and the smaller Muslim cemetery nearer to Tower B & Koi Kinrara |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 11 2015, 10:25 PM) Ever heard of the two words 's.t.i.c.k.e.r. g.a.m.e' ? oh that one sure I know leh..it's very fames one |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 11 2015, 10:27 PM) so the unker decide to buy or cancel Apparently no, he was relieved to know the facts which was not revealed to him. This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 11 2015, 10:30 PM |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 11 2015, 10:24 PM) Haha During last Saturday...I managed to spoke with some walk in visitors...we have some communication and discussion...Logically speaking, I believe many still don't know about the cemetery. A friend of mine went yesterday, was speaking to an old uncle which placed the RM 5,000 booking. As expected, he did not know about it as well. All he knew was the STP and the smaller Muslim cemetery nearer to Tower B & Koi Kinrara after they noticed me as buyer...then asked me a lot questions....I just try my best to answer and given my opinions and comments...including the mentioned new proposed cemetery which opposite the klang river...some get to know after me...of course they are very lucky as I did a lot of survey and site visit...so just told them my views... Some visitors said got to know from forum but they think is not an issue as they noticed it was opposite river and not direct facing as well...so not an issue according to them... |
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so...I also very tired after so many months of investigation....so my galf said on...just hope loan approved then sign....
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Oct 11 2015, 10:29 PM) During last Saturday...I managed to spoke with some walk in visitors...we have some communication and discussion... good for u. now u have a lot of friends staying with u in O'HAKO after they noticed me as buyer...then asked me a lot questions....I just try my best to answer and given my opinions and comments...including the mentioned new proposed cemetery which opposite the klang river...some get to know after me...of course they are very lucky as I did a lot of survey and site visit...so just told them my views... Some visitors said got to know from forum but they think is not an issue as they noticed it was opposite river and not direct facing as well...so not an issue according to them... |
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Oct 11 2015, 10:29 PM) During last Saturday...I managed to spoke with some walk in visitors...we have some communication and discussion... To be me, as long as they are aware and they accept it with open hands then its after they noticed me as buyer...then asked me a lot questions....I just try my best to answer and given my opinions and comments...including the mentioned new proposed cemetery which opposite the klang river...some get to know after me...of course they are very lucky as I did a lot of survey and site visit...so just told them my views... Some visitors said got to know from forum but they think is not an issue as they noticed it was opposite river and not direct facing as well...so not an issue according to them... |
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Oct 11 2015, 10:07 PM) Be honest...I had visited the site a few times as before that when we got to know the proposed cemetery...my galf ask me to give up this project as she thought the mentioned new proposed cemetery is just beside the condo...but after we make a site visit...she totally changed her mind and ask me to continue no give up....haha....that is why I am still here.... Ya. i know your story. you galf ask you to stay on put. So basically what I said is correct right? not direct facing since it is vertical orientation. At least you stand at balcony still can have some nice view if your unit is internal facing. |
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Oct 11 2015, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(yck1987 @ Oct 11 2015, 10:44 PM) Ya. i know your story. you galf ask you to stay on put. So basically what I said is correct right? not direct facing since it is vertical orientation. At least you stand at balcony still can have some nice view if your unit is internal facing. Bro...this is the answer u want...which I copied from their FBAttached thumbnail(s) 
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Oct 11 2015, 10:50 PM
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Orientation of Ohako...copied from their FB
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Oct 11 2015, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(yck1987 @ Oct 11 2015, 10:44 PM) Ya. i know your story. you galf ask you to stay on put. So basically what I said is correct right? not direct facing since it is vertical orientation. At least you stand at balcony still can have some nice view if your unit is internal facing. Depending on which side Mr. yck1987I believe if you choose the left side of Tower A's pool view should be OK. To me, only Tower B Sunway facing units are the safest bet. Followed by Tower A's Pool View, left side units. This is of course provided, the purchase does not pantang living 200 metres away from a 15 acre Muslim cemetery This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 11 2015, 10:51 PM |
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Oct 11 2015, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Oct 11 2015, 10:50 PM) Orientation of Ohako...copied from their FB |
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Oct 11 2015, 10:54 PM
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Oct 11 2015, 10:57 PM
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Just received this clearer image from an ex-buyer.
Developer was trying very hard to convince him to stay, hence he had a copy. This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 11 2015, 10:58 PM |
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Oct 11 2015, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(yck1987 @ Oct 11 2015, 10:44 PM) Ya. i know your story. you galf ask you to stay on put. So basically what I said is correct right? not direct facing since it is vertical orientation. At least you stand at balcony still can have some nice view if your unit is internal facing. Bro...you may find more information from their new website:http://www.ohako.my/ Cheers...  |
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Oct 11 2015, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Oct 11 2015, 11:01 PM) |
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Oct 11 2015, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 11 2015, 10:57 PM) Just received this clearer image from an ex-buyer. very clear Developer was trying very hard to convince him to stay, hence he had a copy. |
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Oct 12 2015, 12:10 AM
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Gud presentation in terms of orientation
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Oct 12 2015, 12:22 AM
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Developer will be headache wit this dobson kor
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Oct 12 2015, 01:37 AM
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 12 2015, 12:22 AM) Developer will be headache wit this dobson kor All content herein is strictly for informational and sharing purposes only.This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 12 2015, 02:10 AM |
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Oct 12 2015, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 12 2015, 01:37 AM) All content herein is strictly for informational and sharing purposes only. good one |
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Oct 13 2015, 02:22 PM
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Seems that this thread has gone quiet.
Good afternoon!!! |
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Oct 13 2015, 03:10 PM
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where the agent??
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Oct 13 2015, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Oct 13 2015, 03:10 PM) where the agent?? mentally killed by dobson. |
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Oct 13 2015, 04:01 PM
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really becoming ghost thread?
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Oct 13 2015, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 13 2015, 03:18 PM) mentally killed by dobson. |
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QUOTE(JustNobody @ Oct 13 2015, 04:01 PM) really becoming ghost thread? ask dobson. |
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Oct 13 2015, 05:34 PM
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Come on folks...
Now I get the blame for sharing? Hmm... |
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Oct 13 2015, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 13 2015, 05:34 PM) Come on folks... juz chill bro.. all play2 fooling with u only Now I get the blame for sharing? Hmm... |
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Oct 13 2015, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 13 2015, 05:34 PM) Come on folks... just joking with you Now I get the blame for sharing? Hmm... this forum is meant for ppl to do sharing, ppl can hate you for sharing the fact, but fact is fact |
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Oct 13 2015, 09:33 PM
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Sharing info is good but must be genuine. What you does kept point out the same issue to scare people without talking the project fact.
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Oct 13 2015, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 13 2015, 09:33 PM) Sharing info is good but must be genuine. What you does kept point out the same issue to scare people without talking the project fact. Chop! So the cemetery is a fake one? I see Wow! Scare people? This is really very very surprising coming from the person who first shared information about the cemetery. O'wise one, please enlighten me. What project facts have I left out? This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 13 2015, 09:59 PM |
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ok what, quite far, got river. plus, ur view will not be block in future.
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Oct 13 2015, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(izhar86 @ Oct 13 2015, 10:18 PM) ok what, quite far, got river. plus, ur view will not be block in future. Betul tu. Agreed |
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Oct 14 2015, 09:36 AM
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ohayo gozaimasu !!!
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Oct 14 2015, 01:21 PM
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yoi ichinichi o sugoshite kudasai
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Oct 14 2015, 01:56 PM
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Nice to watch tis drama...
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Oct 15 2015, 01:31 AM
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I m late to aware of this discussion.
Was initially was trying to help my fren to do some research around this area haha.Kinda amaze me, within 500m..old kubur, extension kubur, new kubur, STP x2. I suppose quite alot of discount/ freebies will be given by developer? Btw, what is the sales price for this ohako? |
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Oct 15 2015, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE(izhar86 @ Oct 13 2015, 10:18 PM) ok what, quite far, got river. plus, ur view will not be block in future. Sarcastic level 1000 |
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Oct 15 2015, 10:28 AM
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Haha, i really prefer stay near to cemetery rather then the bloody jam highway and bloody expensive toll....
plus Muslim cemetery will not have heavy smoke like others cemetery... |
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Oct 15 2015, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(You Sir @ Oct 15 2015, 10:28 AM) Haha, i really prefer stay near to cemetery rather then the bloody jam highway and bloody expensive toll.... plus Muslim cemetery will not have heavy smoke like others cemetery... |
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come if interest to know more official launching coming ..... pm me more detail |
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Oct 15 2015, 11:02 AM
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When is the expected completion date of construction?
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Oct 15 2015, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(Mr.JJchampian @ Oct 15 2015, 10:58 AM)
come if interest to know more official launching coming ..... pm me more detail |
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Oct 15 2015, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(You Sir @ Oct 15 2015, 10:28 AM) Haha, i really prefer stay near to cemetery rather then the bloody jam highway and bloody expensive toll.... find a place that with no cemetery no traffic jam ,with a good air .... with that price rm4xxk .... hmmhmmhmmm....plus Muslim cemetery will not have heavy smoke like others cemetery... |
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Oct 15 2015, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(You Sir @ Oct 15 2015, 11:09 AM) Saw those picture using Japan Developer as selling point... But what special for Japan Developer?? Anti-earthquake?? maybe u can drop by make appointment ... |
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Oct 15 2015, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(Mr.JJchampian @ Oct 15 2015, 11:16 AM) maybe u can drop by make appointment ... No Thanks.... Puchong area already is BIG NO for me during RM1.60 ... Right now Rm2.10 is even worse.... Heard maximum will go up to RM3.10..  |
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Oct 15 2015, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(You Sir @ Oct 15 2015, 03:29 PM) No Thanks.... Puchong area already is BIG NO for me during RM1.60 ... Right now Rm2.10 is even worse.... Heard maximum will go up to RM3.10.. |
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QUOTE(You Sir @ Oct 15 2015, 03:29 PM) No Thanks.... Puchong area already is BIG NO for me during RM1.60 ... Right now Rm2.10 is even worse.... Heard maximum will go up to RM3.10.. QUOTE(JustNobody @ Oct 15 2015, 03:37 PM) 3.10 is next year... Soon or later it will come. There is a bridge to cross over to Sunway side from Puchong after Ohako completed, so why worry ? |
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Oct 15 2015, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 15 2015, 03:45 PM) There is a bridge to cross over to Sunway side from Puchong after Ohako completed, so why worry ? How sure the bridge to cross over to Taylor's lakeside will materialised? I know since Koi Kinrara still under construction for 1st phase, they already sell this point. But it's just 'proposed'... until today nothing yet. |
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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Oct 15 2015, 04:40 PM) How sure the bridge to cross over to Taylor's lakeside will materialised? I know since Koi Kinrara still under construction for 1st phase, they already sell this point. But it's just 'proposed'... until today nothing yet. If we all vote for Pakatan Harapan in the next GE, it will happen ? |
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Oct 15 2015, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(You Sir @ Oct 15 2015, 03:29 PM) No Thanks.... Puchong area already is BIG NO for me during RM1.60 ... Right now Rm2.10 is even worse.... Heard maximum will go up to RM3.10.. Cant just blanketly shoot it down because of the toll. For puchong as a whole, not just ohako. |
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Oct 15 2015, 10:20 PM
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Copied from Marimo FB:
Finally this day coming.... Dear all, We will be having our Sales and Purchase Agreement (SPA) Signing event this coming weekend (17th and 18th of October 2015) There will be belly dancing and singing performance on the 17th of October 2015. Lucky prizes to be won & refreshments will be provided. Join us during this joyous occasion. |
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Oct 15 2015, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Oct 15 2015, 10:20 PM) Copied from Marimo FB: Where is d venue?Finally this day coming.... Dear all, We will be having our Sales and Purchase Agreement (SPA) Signing event this coming weekend (17th and 18th of October 2015) There will be belly dancing and singing performance on the 17th of October 2015. Lucky prizes to be won & refreshments will be provided. Join us during this joyous occasion. |
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Oct 15 2015, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 15 2015, 10:35 PM) Where is d venue? Bro...O'hako Sales Gallery iOi Boulevard @ PuchongAre you a buyer...if yes...see u there... I will go with my partner |
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Oct 15 2015, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE(keane04 @ Oct 15 2015, 09:29 PM) It depends on where you stay and where you work and where your family mostly go rite? ya, so need to work,live,play in Puchong .... Cant just blanketly shoot it down because of the toll. For puchong as a whole, not just ohako. otherwise only can use one junction to go out puchong without paying toll... what a wonderful life... |
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Oct 16 2015, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(You Sir @ Oct 16 2015, 10:51 AM) ya, so need to work,live,play in Puchong .... care to share where you stay and where you work? just wanna know which area can make you so fond of it.otherwise only can use one junction to go out puchong without paying toll... what a wonderful life... |
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Oct 16 2015, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(keane04 @ Oct 16 2015, 10:59 AM) care to share where you stay and where you work? just wanna know which area can make you so fond of it. I stay in PJ, work in Subang... and if people Stay in Cheras/Selayang/Kepong/Serdang, work in KL ... Stay in Shah Alam, work in PJ/Subang/USJ ... (can reverse) see? not many place really surround by toll like puchong and those so called new planned township - setia alam etc.. |
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Oct 16 2015, 11:30 AM
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we cannot judge other ppl from our very own point of view.
one may prefer puchong, maybe there are 'something' in puchong that a personnel is not able to find it in other places like pj/usj... one may prefer pj, as the access is very good, but for those nested in puchong for years alraedy won't be saying pj is better, let's go and stay there.. healthy debate is encouraged but not argue with pointless at the end |
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Oct 16 2015, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(You Sir @ Oct 16 2015, 11:07 AM) I stay in PJ, work in Subang... i see. well, one has to make choice based on his appetite and wallet and also where they prefer.and if people Stay in Cheras/Selayang/Kepong/Serdang, work in KL ... Stay in Shah Alam, work in PJ/Subang/USJ ... (can reverse) see? not many place really surround by toll like puchong and those so called new planned township - setia alam etc.. to some, pay tolls is like norm. accepted it already.... no disagreement with u though... |
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Oct 16 2015, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 16 2015, 11:30 AM) we cannot judge other ppl from our very own point of view. have to agree. one thing i do think is, when one get used to one area, it's very easy to stay there and get to know the "toll-less" road to other area.one may prefer puchong, maybe there are 'something' in puchong that a personnel is not able to find it in other places like pj/usj... one may prefer pj, as the access is very good, but for those nested in puchong for years alraedy won't be saying pj is better, let's go and stay there.. healthy debate is encouraged but not argue with pointless at the end toll-less might not be the smartest though...... This post has been edited by keane04: Oct 16 2015, 11:38 AM |
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Oct 16 2015, 11:49 AM
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1 more thing could be price tag ?
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Oct 16 2015, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 15 2015, 10:35 PM) Where is d venue? venue near ioi boulevard ground floor , near to D'budget |
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Oct 16 2015, 12:23 PM
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Oct 16 2015, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 16 2015, 11:49 AM) 1 more thing could be price tag ? i think this no need to mention...... my favorite place to stay probably Bukit Tunku. hehe |
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QUOTE(Mr.JJchampian @ Oct 16 2015, 12:23 PM)
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[quote=Shaggy11,Oct 16 2015, 10:21 PM]
[QUOTE]Just sign Ohako S&P . Am happy n John Taro was there ever willing to explain to each purchasers any question trown at him. He is the 1st developer whom we can discuss face to face . He is very honest of every thing we ask him, The road Jong to Taylor's Uni , he have adu paid govt Rm ?? Mio. He say he will do his best but all it's still our Govt hands . Many ppl sign the SPA today . The contract too stated in writing about the cemetery n IWK . No hidden agenda .yes I and a buyer n personally I feel that John is very honest n straightforward . Ready in 2019 [/quote] congratulation bro for your purchase... yes...he is a very nice person and I believe he will do the best for his first baby Ohako in Malaysia (although he already have 3 kids )....as all buyers trust him will do the best for them and this would be the important benchmark for Marimo in Malaysia.... the concept and design and facilities would be something different compared to other condos in the market....that is the great result from the mixture of Japanese and Malaysia culture... This post has been edited by Kelvin0685: Oct 16 2015, 11:16 PM |
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[quote=Shaggy11,Oct 16 2015, 10:21 PM]
[QUOTE]Just sign Ohako S&P . Am happy n John Taro was there ever willing to explain to each purchasers any question trown at him. He is the 1st developer whom we can discuss face to face . He is very honest of every thing we ask him, The road Jong to Taylor's Uni , he have adu paid govt Rm ?? Mio. He say he will do his best but all it's still our Govt hands . Many ppl sign the SPA today . The contract too stated in writing about the cemetery n IWK . No hidden agenda .yes I and a buyer n personally I feel that John is very honest n straightforward . Ready in 2019 [/quote] I believe tomorrow and Sunday would be even more buyers go sign snp....due to today as working day Friday... |
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[quote=Shaggy11,Oct 16 2015, 10:21 PM]
[QUOTE]Just sign Ohako S&P . Am happy n John Taro was there ever willing to explain to each purchasers any question trown at him. He is the 1st developer whom we can discuss face to face . He is very honest of every thing we ask him, The road Jong to Taylor's Uni , he have adu paid govt Rm ?? Mio. He say he will do his best but all it's still our Govt hands . Many ppl sign the SPA today . The contract too stated in writing about the cemetery n IWK . No hidden agenda .yes I and a buyer n personally I feel that John is very honest n straightforward . Ready in 2019 [/quote] Wow, thats like totally different developer that Dobson describe. Now it seems like this developer is the first ever being so open and even going down to the ground to explain all queries. Respect! Hope they do well. |
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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Oct 16 2015, 11:26 PM) Wow, thats like totally different developer that Dobson describe. Now it seems like this developer is the first ever being so open and even going down to the ground to explain all queries. Respect! perhaps just like ppl always mentioned...Japanese famous with their honesty and full of responsibility and do their best for every task or mission... Hope they do well. |
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nice. anything in puchong, will sells like a hot cake.
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Oct 17 2015, 01:09 AM
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Kudos John Taro.
Glad you have changed. My insider tells me that you have decided to come clean with existing and new customers about the cemetery. Respect ! This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 17 2015, 01:10 AM |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 17 2015, 01:09 AM) Kudos John Taro. Yea, so let's see whether they still can sell. If sales is still good, they really earn and deserve it. Glad you have changed. My insider tells me that you have decided to come clean with existing and new customers about the cemetery. Respect ! |
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so now case closed.
don't needed to be on "war" |
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Finally the doubt about the cemetery is clear but the haze is still around
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[quote=Shaggy11,Oct 16 2015, 10:21 PM]
[QUOTE]Just sign Ohako S&P . Am happy n John Taro was there ever willing to explain to each purchasers any question trown at him. He is the 1st developer whom we can discuss face to face . He is very honest of every thing we ask him, The road Jong to Taylor's Uni , he have adu paid govt Rm ?? Mio. He say he will do his best but all it's still our Govt hands . Many ppl sign the SPA today . The contract too stated in writing about the cemetery n IWK . No hidden agenda .yes I and a buyer n personally I feel that John is very honest n straightforward . Ready in 2019 [/quote] Nice bro |
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 17 2015, 05:10 PM) Finally the doubt about the cemetery is clear but the haze is still around Haze is no way to control ask our boss go play golf with indon boss |
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More info please do not hesitate to drop me a call .. |
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QUOTE(Mr.JJchampian @ Oct 17 2015, 06:09 PM)
More info please do not hesitate to drop me a call .. |
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 17 2015, 08:00 PM) U r the SA? Yup William gor |
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Just to add some update what happened at ohako sales gallery. Today, they stopped selling block B, Mr John (the boss) was having discussion with a big Tao ke, seems like that Tao ke want to da bao all unit left in block B (not confirm, just heard from air).
Slowpoke a bit but still have to say, they mentioned the cemetery black and white in their information kit. Ohako is a good buy. |
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If I were to share this, people will say I sabotage again.
A few of my friends went to sign the S&P, both Saturday and Sunday. * Please note that my friends are investors hence they are aware about cemetery and don't give a damn about it. But just to test how genuine and sincere John Taro was, they decided to tekan and stretch the SA to the max. Although its stated clearly stated 'black and white' in the information kit, the SAs were not too keen on revealing/explaining in detail the two diagrams (where the towers were facing, distance, visibility etc.) They were in a hurry to quickly get the customer to skim through the information and sign the acceptance note and tutup cerita. Mind you, this is not 1 but a few SAs. So, John Taro This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 19 2015, 09:47 AM |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 17 2015, 03:52 PM) so now case closed. Mr. nexona88,don't needed to be on "war" There is no war. As I mentioned many many times, this is just information sharing. |
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Oct 19 2015, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(zeron720 @ Oct 18 2015, 11:20 PM) Just to add some update what happened at ohako sales gallery. Today, they stopped selling block B, Mr John (the boss) was having discussion with a big Tao ke, seems like that Tao ke want to da bao all unit left in block B (not confirm, just heard from air). Again, will this be called sabotage if I reveal some information here?Slowpoke a bit but still have to say, they mentioned the cemetery black and white in their information kit. Ohako is a good buy. |
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Oct 19 2015, 10:26 AM
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Oct 19 2015, 11:30 AM
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Dorson enough lah..
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Oct 19 2015, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 19 2015, 11:30 AM) Dorson enough lah.. AhemGood afternoon mr. hornbill_78 This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 19 2015, 02:19 PM |
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Personal opinion, if the developer/ SA did mention the cemetery(size/distance) to the buyer/potential buyer, then is consider fair play jor. Then the buyer should consider themselves whether to buy or skip.
It will depends on the buyer whether want to "dig" for further info from the SA. After all, it is impossible to ask the SA non stop mention on the cemetery part. For eg, where ever SA mentioned the cemetery part and the buyer dont really mind or care bout it. Then impossible the SA will cont tell them :Cemetery wor!! kubur wor!! tombstone wor!! If they did this, i m sure gt fired instantly haha. my 2cents |
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Oct 19 2015, 03:54 PM
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Suggest Mr Dorson can station there if he really care all the potential buyer.
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Oct 19 2015, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 19 2015, 09:47 AM) If I were to share this, people will say I sabotage again. Haha.... Director is honest Japanese didn't mean SA also will do the same...A few of my friends went to sign the S&P, both Saturday and Sunday. * Please note that my friends are investors hence they are aware about cemetery and don't give a damn about it. But just to test how genuine and sincere John Taro was, they decided to tekan and stretch the SA to the max. Although its stated clearly stated 'black and white' in the information kit, the SAs were not too keen on revealing/explaining in detail the two diagrams (where the towers were facing, distance, visibility etc.) They were in a hurry to quickly get the customer to skim through the information and sign the acceptance note and tutup cerita. Mind you, this is not 1 but a few SAs. So, John Taro Good Director will focus on company image and want purchase become royalty repeat buyer... But SA only focus money... commission... which SA will care for royalty repeat buyer thing?? (especially now everywhere also using outsource agent to sell..) Maybe he should bring in the Japanese costumer service culture also... And their QC also... |
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Oct 20 2015, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(zeron720 @ Oct 18 2015, 11:20 PM) Just to add some update what happened at ohako sales gallery. Today, they stopped selling block B, Mr John (the boss) was having discussion with a big Tao ke, seems like that Tao ke want to da bao all unit left in block B (not confirm, just heard from air). The discussion was outside the Sales Gallery right and this so-called big towkay was wearing a short-sleeved checked shirt, tucked out right ?Slowpoke a bit but still have to say, they mentioned the cemetery black and white in their information kit. Ohako is a good buy. He also has some white hair on this head. Big sized and tall ? |
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Oct 20 2015, 10:56 PM
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I have more beans to spill.
Anyone interested to know? |
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Oct 21 2015, 01:38 AM
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Oct 21 2015, 02:59 AM
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just share la taikor. great show coming
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Oct 21 2015, 09:33 AM
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1. That so-called towkay that people claim is buying over Tower B does not exist. The guy that was in 'deep discussion' with John Taro was actually one of the bosses of the main real estate agency selling the project. I am unable to find a photo of this 'towkay' online, else I will post.
At least you will know if I am talking about the same person whom some people saw outside the Sales Gallery talking to John Taro. And and and, apparently suddenly now Tower B is not available for sale? What will happen to the purchasers of Tower B then? * This information was leaked by one of the SAs selling the project. My friends managed to korek-korek and eventually he/she leaked out the fact. 2. Has anyone ever come across a Sales & Purchase Agreement that does not allow you to initial on every single intermediate page? Yes, you may sign at the most important page (normally the last pages) but the lawyer does not allow you to initial on every other single pages. What's going on here? How sure are we that John Taro wont selit/put something else in the middle of the SPA since its not initialed by the purchaser? Don't you think this is very suspicious? Why is there a need to do such a thing in the first place? Does that even give you confidence at all? Only the newbies who don't know about such arrangements will bodoh-bodoh just follow what the lawyer said and sign on the last page etc. As I have always said, beware guys! * This information was obtained from many of my friends who went over during the weekend to sign the Sales and Purchase Agreement.Of course they signed reluctantly. They were not the only people complaining about this arrangement. Many refused to sign the SPA because of this reason. No doubt, he makes purchasers happy by 'turun padang' to speak to puchasers, listen to their views and comments, mingle with them. This I respect. However, can't you see that it is actually :- Pusing sini, pusing sana. Change here, change there. Does this even spell j.a.p.a.n.e.s.e. to you? God has given everyone a brain. Use it to think thoroughly and not shoot me for sharing. This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 21 2015, 09:44 AM |
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Oct 21 2015, 09:35 AM
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I waiting to see what his loyal supporters got to say about this.
Apparently they went for the signing too, did not manage to get the status of their Sales and Purchase Agreement though |
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Oct 21 2015, 09:46 AM
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huh, Spa and loan agreement need to initial on every singal page,
I thought this is must?? |
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Oct 21 2015, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 21 2015, 09:33 AM) 2. Has anyone ever come across a Sales & Purchase Agreement that does not allow you to initial on every single intermediate page? Yes, you may sign at the most important page (normally the last pages) but the lawyer does not allow you to initial on every other single pages. What's going on here? How sure are we that John Taro wont selit/put something else in the middle of the SPA since its not initialed by the purchaser? Don't you think this is very suspicious? Why is there a need to do such a thing in the first place? Does that even give you confidence at all? Only the newbies who don't know about such arrangements will bodoh-bodoh just follow what the lawyer said and sign on the last page etc. As I have always said, beware guys! * This information was obtained from many of my friends who went over during the weekend to sign the Sales and Purchase Agreement.Of course they signed reluctantly. They were not the only people complaining about this arrangement. Many refused to sign the SPA because of this reason. First time I heard about such a thing. |
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Oct 21 2015, 10:27 AM
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jp still thought malaysian is naive like during world war 2
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Oct 21 2015, 10:50 AM
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Wonder why purchasers here nvr share this out.
Some lawyers even "force "me to initial while I'm not so keen to.. |
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Oct 21 2015, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 21 2015, 09:48 AM) That's a very brave claim ler, not allowed to initial on the S&P ? Mind you, all these are not claims.First time I heard about such a thing. This thing actually happened to all the people who signed their SPA on Friday, Saturday & Sunday. |
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Oct 21 2015, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(kpgkia88 @ Oct 21 2015, 10:50 AM) Wonder why purchasers here nvr share this out. Hey Mr.kpgkia88,Some lawyers even "force "me to initial while I'm not so keen to.. I share your sentiments. I am also very surprised. I presume you are one of the purchasers as well? My friends who reluctantly signed the SPA, forced the lawyer to make a copy of the SPA. Just in case our friend tries to be funny in the future. This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 21 2015, 11:31 AM |
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 21 2015, 10:27 AM) jp still thought malaysian is naive like during world war 2 I don't think its the company itself.Its the person heading the Malaysian arm. |
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Oct 21 2015, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 21 2015, 10:27 AM) jp still thought malaysian is naive like during world war 2 I don't think its the company itself.Its the person heading the Malaysian arm. |
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Oct 21 2015, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Oct 21 2015, 09:46 AM) huh, Spa and loan agreement need to initial on every singal page, Exactly!I thought this is must?? Still so bold to make the following claims :- 'Designed, Built & Sold Boutique Bungalows' This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 21 2015, 12:54 PM |
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Oct 21 2015, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 21 2015, 10:27 AM) jp still thought malaysian is naive like during world war 2 Boss, i having lunch leh, n laugh out when saw ur reply hahaha.. |
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QUOTE(ChuiChuiShui @ Oct 21 2015, 01:10 PM) Boss, i having lunch leh, n laugh out when saw ur reply hahaha.. Np boss, glad that cheering ur lunch time. |
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 21 2015, 10:27 AM) jp still thought malaysian is naive like during world war 2 It's the other way round. The act of not allowing people to initial over the S&P is naive. |
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 21 2015, 01:52 PM) It's the other way round. The act of not allowing people to initial over the S&P is naive. then it is naive thought counter part is naive |
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Oct 21 2015, 03:10 PM
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I'm very surprised with the new claims. it's very2 suspicious
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 21 2015, 03:10 PM) I'm very surprised with the new claims. it's very2 suspicious You are suspicious of the claim or you are suspicious of the S&P lawyer or developer ? LOL |
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Oct 21 2015, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 21 2015, 03:10 PM) I'm very surprised with the new claims. it's very2 suspicious Mr. nexona88,These not claims. fakta / facts |
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Oct 21 2015, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 21 2015, 03:28 PM) You are suspicious of the claim or you are suspicious of the S&P lawyer or developer ? LOL all of the above |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 21 2015, 11:28 AM) Hey Mr.kpgkia88, I share your sentiments. I am also very surprised. I presume you are one of the purchasers as well? My friends who reluctantly signed the SPA, forced the lawyer to make a copy of the SPA. Just in case our friend tries to be funny in the future. No ler. Puchong area I only want landed. Just talking abt my previous signing. |
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QUOTE(kpgkia88 @ Oct 21 2015, 04:22 PM) No ler. Puchong area I only want landed. Just talking abt my previous signing. Your favourite puteri 12 still have a few units on sale. They have been on sale for sometime already. Including the bangalows.Go go go ! |
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QUOTE(kpgkia88 @ Oct 21 2015, 04:22 PM) No ler. Puchong area I only want landed. Just talking abt my previous signing. Oops!!! So sorry, I thought u meant O'hakoWow, you mean this actually happen before with other projects as well. If this is the case, I the lawyer/law firm is also culpable. Perhaps purchasers should report this to the Bar Council, after that see if the law firm is still willing to defend/stand by our friend. This post has been edited by dobson: Nov 1 2015, 01:39 AM |
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Oct 21 2015, 11:18 PM
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Have been enjoying my popcorn since tis morning...
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 20 2015, 10:30 AM) The discussion was outside the Sales Gallery right and this so-called big towkay was wearing a short-sleeved checked shirt, tucked out right ? This post has been edited by Shaggy11: Oct 21 2015, 11:49 PMHe also has some white hair on this head. Big sized and tall ? |
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about the signing of the SPA , right . we only sign the last page but I have all the copies with me. so I dun think I am worrie dabout it . I hav ethe full set of the SPA. SA says , the original SPA will b eready in 2 months This post has been edited by Shaggy11: Oct 21 2015, 11:50 PM |
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QUOTE(Shaggy11 @ Oct 21 2015, 11:49 PM) about the signing of the SPA , right . we only sign the last page but I have all the copies with me. so I dun think I am worrie dabout it . I hav ethe full set of the SPA. SA says , the original SPA will b eready in 2 months Assuming if you have photocopies of your unintial SPA, are you OK if our good friend made changes to it? What is going to happen? Are you gonna take legal action against him? This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 22 2015, 02:39 AM |
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Oct 22 2015, 02:26 AM
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QUOTE(Shaggy11 @ Oct 21 2015, 11:49 PM) about the signing of the SPA , right . we only sign the last page but I have all the copies with me. so I dun think I am worrie dabout it . I hav ethe full set of the SPA. SA says , the original SPA will b eready in 2 months Original SPA ready in 2 months? Has anyone heard of such thing?Then what do you call the SPA you just signed? Draft SPA? This issue just gets better by the minute. I thought when you ask customers to sign SPA & pay the balance of the downpayment, that should be the final version? Got such thing as 'Original SPA will be ready in 2 months' ? Shocking! I really got to hand it to you Mr. Shaggy11 ! No offence but its either you're a green horn at purchasing property or you are that guillible to believe every single word the SA said or you know? Try asking your parents or people around you who have bought properties what is meant by 'SPA execution' Wake up guys! Judge for yourself. This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 22 2015, 02:40 AM |
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Oct 22 2015, 07:13 AM
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Initial each page of the SPA just common practice in industry no legal right in behind.
Important get the document stamping and makesure the project is under HDA protect. |
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Oct 22 2015, 08:40 AM
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mr. dobson has been working very hard to ensure every buyer/potential buyer get the right product by asking around about the correctness of s&p signing procedure
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 22 2015, 07:13 AM) Initial each page of the SPA just common practice in industry no legal right in behind. You missed an important point ( to highlight). From the point of SPA signed to the point it is stamped, they are in the hands of the SPA lawyer which are inclined to the developer. If they are not initialed on every page, then the question of tampering SPA could arise.Important get the document stamping and makesure the project is under HDA protect. That's why one buyer ask for a photo copy. Presumably he will check every word of the stamped SPA again when received. LOL. |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 22 2015, 02:26 AM) Original SPA ready in 2 months? Has anyone heard of such thing? maybe he said the stamped copy in 2 month,Then what do you call the SPA you just signed? Draft SPA? This issue just gets better by the minute. I thought when you ask customers to sign SPA & pay the balance of the downpayment, that should be the final version? Got such thing as 'Original SPA will be ready in 2 months' ? Shocking! I really got to hand it to you Mr. Shaggy11 ! No offence but its either you're a green horn at purchasing property or you are that guillible to believe every single word the SA said or you know? Try asking your parents or people around you who have bought properties what is meant by 'SPA execution' Wake up guys! Judge for yourself. after buyer sign the SPA, still need to pass to developer director to sign then only can stamp, it may take some time since those "boss" are very busy. after all SPA been sign then lawyer will take to stamping (normally will wait developer instruction when to stamp) coz the LAD count start on the date it stamped. |
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 22 2015, 08:54 AM) You missed an important point ( to highlight). From the point of SPA signed to the point it is stamped, they are in the hands of the SPA lawyer which are inclined to the developer. If they are not initialed on every page, then the question of tampering SPA could arise. Exactly!!!That's why one buyer ask for a photo copy. Presumably he will check every word of the stamped SPA again when received. LOL. Some people's view seem to have swayed the other way ever since certain incidents. Hmm... |
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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Oct 22 2015, 10:25 AM) maybe he said the stamped copy in 2 month, Pesky SAs told my friends who bought that the finalized version of the SPA will be provided later.after buyer sign the SPA, still need to pass to developer director to sign then only can stamp, it may take some time since those "boss" are very busy. after all SPA been sign then lawyer will take to stamping (normally will wait developer instruction when to stamp) coz the LAD count start on the date it stamped. Meaning to say this stupid copy that they sign is only a draft. Then sign for what??? First time I hear such things, developer ask purchaser bring balance of down payment only to sign a draft copy of SPA. Subject to changes! Else why would our good friend not allow the purchasers to initial on every page. Like I said, what game is he playing here? This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 22 2015, 10:35 AM |
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Apparently, last weekend the lawyers had no choice but to give a copy of the SPA when purchasers forced them.
Some of my friends tried asking for it this week, developer is no longer budging. Purchasers, please exercise your rights! Get your photocopied SPA ASAP! Do you smell danger? This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 22 2015, 10:45 AM |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 22 2015, 10:37 AM) Apparently, last weekend the lawyers had no choice but to give a copy of the SPA when purchasers forced them. japanies style of signing SPA,Some of my friends tried asking for it this week, developer is no longer budging. Purchasers, please exercise your rights! Get your photocopied SPA ASAP! Do you smell danger? new procedue, have to study |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 22 2015, 10:37 AM) Apparently, last weekend the lawyers had no choice but to give a copy of the SPA when purchasers forced them. boss, you have been providing each and every main cons in this forum yet so much of ur frendsss still buying.Some of my friends tried asking for it this week, developer is no longer budging. Purchasers, please exercise your rights! Get your photocopied SPA ASAP! Do you smell danger? apa macam ni... |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 22 2015, 10:37 AM) Apparently, last weekend the lawyers had no choice but to give a copy of the SPA when purchasers forced them. what's the danger? if you are scare, get your own lawyer.Some of my friends tried asking for it this week, developer is no longer budging. Purchasers, please exercise your rights! Get your photocopied SPA ASAP! Do you smell danger? |
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What legal action you can take if the developer tamper the document later even you initial each pages of the SPA my view it just go back to HDA procedure.
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 22 2015, 11:54 AM) boss, you have been providing each and every main cons in this forum yet so much of ur frendsss still buying. My friends bought it for investment.apa macam ni... Now they are abit goyang after seeing what happened to the SPA signing. |
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 22 2015, 01:02 PM) What legal action you can take if the developer tamper the document later even you initial each pages of the SPA my view it just go back to HDA procedure. Mind including punctuation marks in your sentences ?*blush* |
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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Oct 22 2015, 11:49 AM) japanies style of signing SPA, new procedue, have to study |
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 22 2015, 08:47 PM) Hmmm... Still gt story ah?lai lai 😁😁😁 |
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Just bot popcorn @ 7-Eleven
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 22 2015, 08:47 PM) Hmmm... why? got more info ah? sharing is caring |
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Hey, these are facts.
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Oct 22 2015, 11:43 PM
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Just wondering why everyone went quiettt...
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Waiting for my puchaser friend to scan the project information booklet to be shared with everyone here.
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Oct 23 2015, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 22 2015, 11:43 PM) Just wondering why everyone went quiettt... u scare everyone off liao |
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Oct 23 2015, 04:24 PM
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Facts shall always be facts Mr. lorrydriverrocks
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Oct 23 2015, 04:24 PM
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Facts shall always be facts Mr. lorrydriverrocks
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Oct 23 2015, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 23 2015, 04:24 PM) Facts shall always be facts Mr. lorrydriverrocks Where is the pop corn ? We have been waiting for "project information booklet" since morning until now .... Would you prefer to get into trouble then to run away? |
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Oct 23 2015, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 23 2015, 04:27 PM) Where is the pop corn ? We have been waiting for "project information booklet" since morning until now .... budget first to burn some times before the most important project booklet |
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Oct 23 2015, 05:01 PM
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I'm waiting for the "project information booklet"
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Oct 23 2015, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 23 2015, 04:31 PM) budget first to burn some times before the most important project booklet "Prospering the rakyat" |
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Oct 25 2015, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 22 2015, 11:54 AM) boss, you have been providing each and every main cons in this forum yet so much of ur frendsss still buying. the reason very simple...buyers know what is right and wrong.... apa macam ni... |
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Oct 25 2015, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(lorrydriverrocks @ Oct 23 2015, 08:04 AM) u scare everyone off liao scared for what...never see such a developer so honest to everyone and willing to listen opinions and comments from buyers...thus...we believe Mr John and Marimo can do the best for Ohako...his first baby in Malaysia... |
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Oct 26 2015, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Oct 25 2015, 11:33 PM) scared for what...never see such a developer so honest to everyone and willing to listen opinions and comments from buyers...thus...we believe Mr John and Marimo can do the best for Ohako...his first baby in Malaysia... Ahem |
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Oct 26 2015, 03:30 AM
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Oct 25 2015, 11:21 PM) the reason very simple...buyers know what is right and wrong.... right or wrong is very subjectivemost importantly, buyers need to know facts.nothing but facts. |
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Oct 26 2015, 01:27 PM
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Oct 26 2015, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Oct 25 2015, 11:33 PM) scared for what...never see such a developer so honest to everyone and willing to listen opinions and comments from buyers...thus...we believe Mr John and Marimo can do the best for Ohako...his first baby in Malaysia... i agree with you. first time developer will always do their best to gain good reputations. |
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Oct 26 2015, 03:24 PM
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First time i heard SPA lawyer not allow to initial every-page... interesting...
and IF they are using HDA format SPA then there is nothing to hide, so why can't get a copy? (if want to use GREEN way then can scan and email) Also interesting.... 2 month got another SPA? Maybe is the newbie SA giving the wrong info only... |
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Oct 26 2015, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(You Sir @ Oct 26 2015, 03:24 PM) First time i heard SPA lawyer not allow to initial every-page... interesting... Photocopy costs money. Scanning also costs money. The lawyer can't charge this to the developer perhaps, so both scanning and printing are not allowed.and IF they are using HDA format SPA then there is nothing to hide, so why can't get a copy? (if want to use GREEN way then can scan and email) Also interesting.... 2 month got another SPA? Maybe is the newbie SA giving the wrong info only... 2 months get another SPA is probably 2 months to get the stamped copy. My guess. |
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Oct 26 2015, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 26 2015, 03:50 PM) Photocopy costs money. Scanning also costs money. The lawyer can't charge this to the developer perhaps, so both scanning and printing are not allowed. Scanning cost money?? NVM, put there, i use my phone to snap photo。。。 2 months get another SPA is probably 2 months to get the stamped copy. My guess. This didn't seem is the the problem from the top management (since they are new in Malaysia property market) but maybe is from those so call 'experienced staff' / 'adviser' / 'professional marketing agency' ... |
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Oct 26 2015, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE(You Sir @ Oct 26 2015, 03:24 PM) First time i heard SPA lawyer not allow to initial every-page... interesting... Newbie SA?and IF they are using HDA format SPA then there is nothing to hide, so why can't get a copy? (if want to use GREEN way then can scan and email) Also interesting.... 2 month got another SPA? Maybe is the newbie SA giving the wrong info only... Try asking the rest of the SAs in the Sales Gallery. All singing the same tune. |
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Oct 26 2015, 08:56 PM
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Wonder why other buyers bodoh bodoh keep quiet and sign.
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Oct 27 2015, 08:01 AM
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Any further reduction in price? (between pre-launch and official launch)
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Oct 27 2015, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(You Sir @ Oct 26 2015, 03:24 PM) First time i heard SPA lawyer not allow to initial every-page... interesting... buyers are not stupid; lawyer is governed by law and regulations. not everything in public domain is true.and IF they are using HDA format SPA then there is nothing to hide, so why can't get a copy? (if want to use GREEN way then can scan and email) Also interesting.... 2 month got another SPA? Maybe is the newbie SA giving the wrong info only... |
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Oct 27 2015, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 26 2015, 08:36 PM) Newbie SA? Then maybe you can ask them the reason on this draft SPA??Try asking the rest of the SAs in the Sales Gallery. All singing the same tune. Btw, please check this SPA is under HDA protection or not. Really didn't have any reason to do another SPA in 2 month later since they already get the APDL that can sign the SPA immediately. IF they collected 10%, they have to bank in the payment (and all other payment related to SPA price) they collect to HDA account. Withdraw from HDA account have to follow T&C and the banked-in amount should tally with the report on unit they sold... plus now KPKT asking developer to send the HDA account statement on monthly basis, so they should easily to trace if the HDA account got any problem... Saw you are asking this case in property Q&A sub-forum, really do homework before shooting ah.... QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Oct 27 2015, 08:53 AM) buyers are not stupid; lawyer is governed by law and regulations. not everything in public domain is true. I even saw buyer signing blank SPA as instruct by lawyer/developer due to they didn't have any purchase property experience.... |
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Oct 27 2015, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Oct 27 2015, 08:53 AM) buyers are not stupid; lawyer is governed by law and regulations. not everything in public domain is true. QUOTE(You Sir @ Oct 27 2015, 09:55 AM) I even saw buyer signing blank SPA as instruct by lawyer/developer due to they didn't have any purchase property experience.... 不怕一万，只怕万一。小心驶得万年船。LOL. |
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Oct 27 2015, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(You Sir @ Oct 27 2015, 09:55 AM) Then maybe you can ask them the reason on this draft SPA?? I am not shooting.Btw, please check this SPA is under HDA protection or not. Really didn't have any reason to do another SPA in 2 month later since they already get the APDL that can sign the SPA immediately. IF they collected 10%, they have to bank in the payment (and all other payment related to SPA price) they collect to HDA account. Withdraw from HDA account have to follow T&C and the banked-in amount should tally with the report on unit they sold... plus now KPKT asking developer to send the HDA account statement on monthly basis, so they should easily to trace if the HDA account got any problem... Saw you are asking this case in property Q&A sub-forum, really do homework before shooting ah.... I even saw buyer signing blank SPA as instruct by lawyer/developer due to they didn't have any purchase property experience.... As always, I am only sharing what's going on with this project It is under HDA. The reason is very obvious. Think everyone! Think! Otherwise why would he suddenly ask purchasers to come and sign SPA and only to tell them that it is DRAFT, cannot initial on each page bla bla bla. Those reasons only point to one thing This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 27 2015, 08:36 PM |
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Oct 27 2015, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 27 2015, 10:06 AM) We also have reports about lawyers ran away and disappeared to don't know where. Agreed不怕一万，只怕万一。小心驶得万年船。LOL. |
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Oct 27 2015, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(eastern @ Oct 27 2015, 08:01 AM) Any further reduction in price? (between pre-launch and official launch) Do you think the price will be reduced?It will only go up, not down. Unless he is super desperate. This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 27 2015, 08:45 PM |
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Oct 27 2015, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Oct 27 2015, 08:53 AM) buyers are not stupid; lawyer is governed by law and regulations. not everything in public domain is true. Totally agree with you Mr. mroys.A lot of first time buyers apparently, thats why they bodoh2 sign as per lawyers instruction. Not knowing that they are required to initial on every single page in the SPA. The one's complaining are the seasoned purchasers or those who are buying their 2nd property. My million dollar question is this :- How come the lawyers are willing to do this even though they know this is not right? 知法犯法!!! My friends made inquiries with the Bar Council, and they were advised to report this incident. They gladly did. We shall see what happens to those two law firms (MXXXXXX XXXX X XXX and IXXX XXXXX XXX & XXX ) after this. This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 27 2015, 08:45 PM |
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Oct 27 2015, 08:47 PM
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There is actually such thing called draft SPA which requires purchasers to sign at the last page and pay the balance down payment
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Oct 27 2015, 10:12 PM
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Why need to sign DRAFT SPA ? This is unfair.
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Oct 27 2015, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 27 2015, 08:39 PM) Totally agree with you Mr. mroys. I hope action would be taken to those two law firms A lot of first time buyers apparently, thats why they bodoh2 sign as per lawyers instruction. Not knowing that they are required to initial on every single page in the SPA. The one's complaining are the seasoned purchasers or those who are buying their 2nd property. My million dollar question is this :- How come the lawyers are willing to do this even though they know this is not right? 知法犯法!!! My friends made inquiries with the Bar Council, and they were advised to report this incident. They gladly did. We shall see what happens to those two law firms (MXXXXXX XXXX X XXX and IXXX XXXXX XXX & XXX ) after this. |
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Oct 27 2015, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(accetera @ Oct 27 2015, 10:12 PM) Why need to sign DRAFT SPA ? This is unfair. Unfair is one thing, what is the real motive behind this move? Try asking his loyal supporters, see what they say. I believe they are monitoring this thread and reporting to him everyday This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 27 2015, 10:18 PM |
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Oct 27 2015, 10:20 PM
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Some "hot" selling projects may ask buyers to sign Draft SPA simply because they want to LOCK IN the sales as early as possible.
However, all these practice is unethical and is wrong as far as legal professional code of conduct and HDA are concerned. |
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Oct 27 2015, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 27 2015, 10:17 PM) Unfair is one thing, what is the real motive behind this move? Try asking his loyal supporters, see what they say. I believe they are monitoring this thread and reporting to him everyday QUOTE(accetera @ Oct 27 2015, 10:20 PM) Some "hot" selling projects may ask buyers to sign Draft SPA simply because they want to LOCK IN the sales as early as possible. I am still quite puzzled. What is the need for draft ?However, all these practice is unethical and is wrong as far as legal professional code of conduct and HDA are concerned. Many developers just lock in the buyers by giving them the actual SPA but just delay in getting them stamped, 3 months or 6 months or whatever. Because they want to only stamp the SPA until they got enough buyers. Otherwise they will be very stressed by cash flow problem. So why draft ? Just not making sense. |
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Oct 28 2015, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(accetera @ Oct 27 2015, 10:20 PM) Some "hot" selling projects may ask buyers to sign Draft SPA simply because they want to LOCK IN the sales as early as possible. Sad to say, seems that the purchasers are bodoh enough to do such a thing.However, all these practice is unethical and is wrong as far as legal professional code of conduct and HDA are concerned. Pay so much money only to sign a piece of 'unfinalized' document. |
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Oct 28 2015, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 27 2015, 10:30 PM) I am still quite puzzled. What is the need for draft ? I can only think of a few words to describe this developer :-Many developers just lock in the buyers by giving them the actual SPA but just delay in getting them stamped, 3 months or 6 months or whatever. Because they want to only stamp the SPA until they got enough buyers. Otherwise they will be very stressed by cash flow problem. So why draft ? Just not making sense. uncertainty instability Anymore? sini goyang, sana goyang. does this even give purchasers confidence? 4 years is a very long time! This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 28 2015, 09:44 AM |
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Oct 28 2015, 09:40 AM
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Wonder if it is right to actually reveal the law firm's name here.
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Oct 28 2015, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 28 2015, 09:32 AM) I can only think of a few words to describe this developer :- Haha you can say all those but I did not. LOL.uncertainty instability Anymore? I am just saying it does not make sense because if get buyers to commit is what the objective is, there is no need to have a draft. The only real need to have a draft is that they might be amendments later. Layout plan, car park location etc etc. |
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Oct 28 2015, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 28 2015, 09:50 AM) Haha you can say all those but I did not. LOL. Actually layout plan and carpark location is ok to amend under HDA SPA (just said is under authority requirement will do)...I am just saying it does not make sense because if get buyers to commit is what the objective is, there is no need to have a draft. The only real need to have a draft is that they might be amendments later. Layout plan, car park location etc etc. And they also can delay on stamping (if they didn't want to touch payment under HDA account), so there really didn't have reason to sign such draft SPA... Normally the draft SPA is only using when need to email softcopy to buyer and let them read before signing... |
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Oct 28 2015, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 28 2015, 09:40 AM) Wonder if it is right to actually reveal the law firm's name here. Izzit the Singh and Chu law firm??Hmm |
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Oct 28 2015, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(You Sir @ Oct 28 2015, 10:28 AM) Actually layout plan and carpark location is ok to amend under HDA SPA (just said is under authority requirement will do)... They can modify the layout and they probably are thinking going to modify it, that's why they don't want you to initial on it. Because if you initial all pages and then they suddenly change the layout, then the changed copy will not have initial. If you don't initial any pages, then they are free to change. That's what I mean.And they also can delay on stamping (if they didn't want to touch payment under HDA account), so there really didn't have reason to sign such draft SPA... Normally the draft SPA is only using when need to email softcopy to buyer and let them read before signing... This post has been edited by puchongite: Oct 28 2015, 10:49 AM |
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Oct 28 2015, 10:57 AM
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First time I see this signing draft SNP.... Japan style? I won't sign it if I bought a unit there... It's not fair!
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Oct 28 2015, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 28 2015, 10:42 AM) They can modify the layout and they probably are thinking going to modify it, that's why they don't want you to initial on it. Because if you initial all pages and then they suddenly change the layout, then the changed copy will not have initial. If you don't initial any pages, then they are free to change. That's what I mean. If this happened, buyer just need to bring the brochure (with ori layout plan) then can sue the developer and law firm.I did remember there is a case like this and the buyer win in court. |
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Oct 28 2015, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 28 2015, 10:42 AM) They can modify the layout and they probably are thinking going to modify it, that's why they don't want you to initial on it. Because if you initial all pages and then they suddenly change the layout, then the changed copy will not have initial. If you don't initial any pages, then they are free to change. That's what I mean. Yes, I can understand the part on wanting to modify.If that's really the case, isn't the purchaser on the losing end? They won't know what is the developer going to change/modify/add/remove ? It is as good as signing on a blank piece of paper! |
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Oct 28 2015, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(JustNobody @ Oct 28 2015, 10:57 AM) First time I see this signing draft SNP.... Japan style? I won't sign it if I bought a unit there... It's not fair! I don't think this is how Japanese people do things.Pity those first time purchasers who dont know about this and bodoh-bodoh sign as per lawyer's instructions. |
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Oct 28 2015, 02:50 PM
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Lets wait and see what other 'pattern' will he be coming up with after this.
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Oct 28 2015, 08:50 PM
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Oct 28 2015, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(You Sir @ Oct 28 2015, 10:30 AM) Izzit the Singh and Chu law firm?? HahaWhat makes you think its this law firm? |
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Oct 28 2015, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 28 2015, 08:50 PM) Haha I know this is slightly out of topic but I guess would benefit the buyers on this property as well seeing how shady the process is..been following this thread closely especially about signing S&P. I'm about to buy my second property but still a bit clueless about what I should really look out for in the agreement other than a few important things such as,What makes you think its this law firm? 1. Price obviously 2. Completion time - 36 or 48 months etc. 3. Layout Plan 4. Unit number, unit layout 5. Carpark allocation 6. Facilities 7. Sinking Fund 8. Defect Liability period Anymore other things we should look out for in the agreement? Thanks to all sifus |
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Oct 28 2015, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 28 2015, 02:14 PM) I don't think this is how Japanese people do things. actually how does Japanese people do? Pity those first time purchasers who dont know about this and bodoh-bodoh sign as per lawyer's instructions. |
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Oct 28 2015, 11:41 PM
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Nvr heard of draft SPA b4
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Oct 29 2015, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(EgKev @ Oct 28 2015, 11:22 PM) I know this is slightly out of topic but I guess would benefit the buyers on this property as well seeing how shady the process is..been following this thread closely especially about signing S&P. I'm about to buy my second property but still a bit clueless about what I should really look out for in the agreement other than a few important things such as, Thanks for sharing! 1. Price obviously 2. Completion time - 36 or 48 months etc. 3. Layout Plan 4. Unit number, unit layout 5. Carpark allocation 6. Facilities 7. Sinking Fund 8. Defect Liability period Anymore other things we should look out for in the agreement? Thanks to all sifus |
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Oct 29 2015, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 28 2015, 08:50 PM) Haha That actually is part of 2 law firm name...What makes you think its this law firm? |
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Oct 29 2015, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(EgKev @ Oct 28 2015, 11:22 PM) I know this is slightly out of topic but I guess would benefit the buyers on this property as well seeing how shady the process is..been following this thread closely especially about signing S&P. I'm about to buy my second property but still a bit clueless about what I should really look out for in the agreement other than a few important things such as, You need to aware on Adjustment rate that will determine penalty by developer in case the actual built up smaller then SPA...1. Price obviously 2. Completion time - 36 or 48 months etc. 3. Layout Plan 4. Unit number, unit layout 5. Carpark allocation 6. Facilities 7. Sinking Fund 8. Defect Liability period Anymore other things we should look out for in the agreement? Thanks to all sifus Completion date actually is follow by HDA, developer can't change it unless got approval from MOH. So you should know it before buying and no point make noise upon signing since you only got option by sign or not sign... |
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Oct 29 2015, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(You Sir @ Oct 29 2015, 12:36 PM) You need to aware on Adjustment rate that will determine penalty by developer in case the actual built up smaller then SPA... Thanks for sharing, Mr. You SirCompletion date actually is follow by HDA, developer can't change it unless got approval from MOH. So you should know it before buying and no point make noise upon signing since you only got option by sign or not sign... |
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QUOTE(You Sir @ Oct 29 2015, 12:29 PM) That actually is part of 2 law firm name... Don't get you? |
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 28 2015, 11:25 PM) actually how does Japanese people do? |
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Even the SA has gone quiet
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ohayo gozaimasu
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 30 2015, 09:08 AM) ohayo gozaimasu Ohayo! 9.08am... really punctuality like Japanese start work ah... |
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Dear readers,
This will be the official mouthpiece of Marimo Land Sdn. Bhd. (MLSB) With regards to the Sales & Purchase Agreement (SPA) signing for O'hako, we will be having an Question & Answer session on the 7th & 14th of November 2015. Both Marimo Land Sdn. Bhd. (MLSB)'s solicitors Pretam, Nor & Co. & purchaser's solicitors Michael Chen & Co. and Iqbal Hakim, Sia & Voo will be present during these 2 days. During these two days, all pages of the SPA will be initialed accordingly. Purchasers will be required to sign by the 8th of November. Both MLSB & its solicitors will sign on the 9th of November. The SPA stamping process will start on the 12th of November in batches. Purchasers will receive a of the stamped SPA. MLSB's solicitors, Pretam, Nor & Co.will be present during these 2 days. Thank you. This post has been edited by ohako: Oct 30 2015, 08:22 PM |
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Oct 30 2015, 03:35 PM
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dobson has put a hard work for ohako representative to speak here.
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Oct 30 2015, 04:07 PM
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fuhyoo ohako representative even have come out with statement wor
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Oct 30 2015, 04:45 PM
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Oct 30 2015, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 30 2015, 04:45 PM) *** Reserved For Future Posting *** boss, u geng ah..salute salute... |
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Oct 30 2015, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(ChuiChuiShui @ Oct 30 2015, 04:53 PM) boss, u geng ah..salute salute... This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 30 2015, 04:59 PM |
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Oct 30 2015, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(ChuiChuiShui @ Oct 30 2015, 04:53 PM) boss, u geng ah..salute salute... |
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Oct 30 2015, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 30 2015, 05:11 PM) ask dobson first before proceed to purchase. I quite look forward whether the developer side will explain what is the "draft spa". |
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Oct 30 2015, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(ChuiChuiShui @ Oct 30 2015, 05:16 PM) I quite look forward whether the developer side will explain what is the "draft spa". i am worry on dobson instead of the spa and sales. |
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Oct 30 2015, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 30 2015, 05:17 PM) i am worry on dobson instead of the spa and sales.  shud be no problem la..unless they wan to tell what dobson said is false info.i wonder after office hour, who is going to manage the developer's a/c? |
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Oct 30 2015, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(ChuiChuiShui @ Oct 30 2015, 05:23 PM) shud be no problem la..unless they wan to tell what dobson said is false info.i wonder after office hour, who is going to manage the developer's a/c? |
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Oct 30 2015, 07:50 PM
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Please do not ask me.
I am just sharing facts. You have to decide yourself. |
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Oct 30 2015, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 30 2015, 05:17 PM) i am worry on dobson instead of the spa and sales. Why worry on me?Don't get you. |
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Oct 30 2015, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE(ChuiChuiShui @ Oct 30 2015, 05:23 PM) shud be no problem la..unless they wan to tell what dobson said is false info.i wonder after office hour, who is going to manage the developer's a/c? Verify & validate the information with them. This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 30 2015, 07:53 PM |
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Oct 30 2015, 08:14 PM
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Greetings,
Marimo Land Sdn. Bhd. (MLSB)'s solicitors Pretam, Nor & Co. would like to share the following :- Generally, since the Sales and Purchase Agreement (SPA) is a standard agreement under Schedule H of the HOUSING DEVELOPMENT (CONTROL AND LICENSING) REGULATIONS 1989, many purchasers do not want to, and do not have to initial all of the pages. However, if there is a purchaser who wishes to sign all of the pages, then arrangements can be made with the purchaser's lawyers to assist him in signing all of the pages. Thank you. This post has been edited by ohako: Oct 30 2015, 08:32 PM |
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Oct 30 2015, 08:36 PM
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Great to know that it will be addressed. Sometimes people over react or hear some news then goyang.
At least this developer is responding well to all allegations. |
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Oct 30 2015, 08:43 PM
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wow again with statement from Marimo Land
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Oct 30 2015, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 30 2015, 08:43 PM) wow again with statement from Marimo Land now you all know how corporate account being manage after office hour. |
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Oct 30 2015, 08:46 PM
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Thanks mr D. Always want become hero here.
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Oct 30 2015, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 30 2015, 08:46 PM) now you all know how corporate account being manage after office hour. I wonder where have they been all tis time. Now only come to reply damage done This post has been edited by nexona88: Oct 30 2015, 08:50 PM |
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Oct 30 2015, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Oct 30 2015, 08:36 PM) Great to know that it will be addressed. Sometimes people over react or hear some news then goyang. firstly if developer explain well during the s&p signing i think outsider will not even stand a chance to 'over react'.At least this developer is responding well to all allegations. secondly developer should already be prepared with explainer onsite, or maybe developer trying to highlight they are not well understood the procedure in MY, this lead to thirdly. thirdly if developer does not understand the MY style, how are they going to do sale ? |
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Oct 30 2015, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 30 2015, 08:49 PM) I wonder where have they been all tis time. Now only come to reply sale not going well damage done |
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Oct 30 2015, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 30 2015, 08:50 PM) sale not going well u could be right |
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Oct 30 2015, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Oct 30 2015, 08:36 PM) Great to know that it will be addressed. Sometimes people over react or hear some news then goyang. Allegations? But it is a fact, on the day of the signing solicitors from both law firms did not allow purchasers to initial on every page.At least this developer is responding well to all allegations. Unless that was not true then I rest my case. |
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Oct 30 2015, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(hornbill_78 @ Oct 30 2015, 08:46 PM) Thanks mr D. Always want become hero here. Haha Share information also wrong.Don't forget you were the one who first posted about the cemetery. Suddenly you become his member. Hmm... |
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Oct 30 2015, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Oct 30 2015, 08:50 PM) firstly if developer explain well during the s&p signing i think outsider will not even stand a chance to 'over react'. Firstly & Secondly,secondly developer should already be prepared with explainer onsite, or maybe developer trying to highlight they are not well understood the procedure in MY, this lead to thirdly. thirdly if developer does not understand the MY style, how are they going to do sale ? If during the signing of the SPA... Developer explain to the purchaser, do you think the purchaser will accept?You wanna take purchaser's money but yet only give bloody draft? Why cant you finalize everything only ask purchaser to come and sign on the dotted line? Waste of time aye? From what I know, they were chasing the purchasers to quickly come sign the SPA, of course with the 2.2% rebate CARROT. If you are purchaser, won't you be angry? You chase me like hell to come sign SPA, promise me 2.2% rebate. Then during signing, I find out its only a draft copy. Don't you feel cheated? please please please dont tell me there is no element of deceit here? definition of deceit according to google :- the action or practice of deceiving someone by concealing or misrepresenting the truth. Draft SPA is an internal matter. If its not ready, why inform purchasers the SPA is ready for execution? When you involve the purchaser, it should be a final version.one and only. When you buy a car and sign on the dotted line, is there such thing as a draft? Thirdly, I don't think this is about Malaysian style, South African style or Japonais style. This is basic common sense la. Finalize your agreements / documents then only get purchasers to sign. Not ask them to come pay, sign only to find out that it is draft! Or, at least inform them first before them come. Let them know that the copy they are signing is only a draft as developer is still finalizing. That way people feel confident and secured. Not call the whole world to quickly come sign the S&P...only to find out that they are not allowed to initial on each page. I don't think its Marimo Japan's fault. If it is, they won't have successfully completed so many projects. To me, the issue lies with Marimo Malaysia's management. No one else. This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 31 2015, 02:16 AM |
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Oct 30 2015, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(dobson @ Oct 30 2015, 09:12 PM) Allegations? But it is a fact, on the day of the signing solicitors from both law firms did not allow purchasers to initial on every page. I say allegation coz I'm just hearing from u, I don't know which is fact. U could be right, but they too could be not wrong. Maybe it's misunderstanding?Unless that was not true then I rest my case. Everything also must listen from both side then only easier to judge. But after following the update and knowing they reveal and not hide stuff, it is a very commendable move by the developer. Benefit of the doubt yo! But kudos to u for raising it up. I always like stuff like that, like we need a strong opposition then only govt can improve |
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Oct 30 2015, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(ohako @ Oct 30 2015, 03:26 PM) Dear readers, thanks for the detailed information.... This will be the official mouthpiece of Marimo Land Sdn. Bhd. (MLSB) With regards to the Sales & Purchase Agreement (SPA) signing for O'hako, we will be having an Question & Answer session on the 7th & 14th of November 2015. Both Marimo Land Sdn. Bhd. (MLSB)'s solicitors Pretam, Nor & Co. & purchaser's solicitors Michael Chen & Co. and Iqbal Hakim, Sia & Voo will be present during these 2 days. During these two days, all pages of the SPA will be initialed accordingly. Purchasers will be required to sign by the 8th of November. Both MLSB & its solicitors will sign on the 9th of November. The SPA stamping process will start on the 12th of November in batches. Purchasers will receive a of the stamped SPA. MLSB's solicitors, Pretam, Nor & Co.will be present during these 2 days. Thank you. well done Marimo Land.... |
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Oct 31 2015, 02:06 AM
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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Oct 30 2015, 11:42 PM) I say allegation coz I'm just hearing from u, I don't know which is fact. U could be right, but they too could be not wrong. Maybe it's misunderstanding? you don't have to hear it from me, there are actually purchasers in this thread who voiced out too.that reaffirms my claims or what you call 'allegations'Everything also must listen from both side then only easier to judge. But after following the update and knowing they reveal and not hide stuff, it is a very commendable move by the developer. Benefit of the doubt yo! But kudos to u for raising it up. I always like stuff like that, like we need a strong opposition then only govt can improve please read the previous posts mr. thecaterpillar they reveal and not hide ? are you joking or is my eyes playing tricks on me? you do know that they did not inform purchasers before hand that the SPA is draft copy. if this is not considered hiding, then i don't know what is. please bear in mind that, its only after all this complaints/grumblings that the developer decided to buka mulut. otherwise they just keep quiet and expect the purchasers to go along with their game. if you tell me they pre-inform the purchasers before they come to sign SPA, then itu baru kira commendable. gua respek sama lu brader! the fact is, they only ask purchasers to sign SPA by a certain date to enjoy the 2.2% special rebate. purchasers only got to know that the SPA is a draft on the day they come with the balance of the down payment. before come duno, after come only know. - spa is draft - can sign on last page but cannot initial on other pages This post has been edited by dobson: Oct 31 2015, 02:17 AM |
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Oct 31 2015, 07:39 AM
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Listening from all buyer is still 1 sided bro. That's not consider hearing from both side of the story. They can sing the same tune but as I said there's benefit of the doubt on the developer side.
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