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post Mar 26 2018, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Mar 26 2018, 05:14 PM)
I have seen it in Ace Hardware but pricing is not very affordable. That was few years ago, not sure still have or not.
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10" by 4.5" or other size?

Because 10" by 2.5 available, 20 by 4.5 also, but 10 by 4.5 cannot find

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post Mar 27 2018, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Mar 26 2018, 05:19 PM)
10" by 4.5" or other size?

Because 10" by 2.5 available, 20 by 4.5 also, but 10 by 4.5 cannot find
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10" x 2.5", the most common size. I hardly see 10 x 4.5 too.
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post Mar 27 2018, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Mar 26 2018, 05:01 PM)
Not selling yet, due to my supplier being super slow, but will be selling soon, since I found new supplier hope for April.

I wouldn't mind to advertise any other seller if only he had this option. I found only 10 micron no-name pleated filter on Lazada and the cost is very high.
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So what can I do at the moment? Get a cheapo one first with piping fixed? And I am still confuse what exactly this filter is. We are talking about a filter that looks like this picture right?

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QUOTE(hestati @ Mar 26 2018, 05:19 PM)
10" by 4.5" or other size?

Because 10" by 2.5 available, 20 by 4.5 also, but 10 by 4.5 cannot find
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So I assume the picture above is 10" by 2.5? And what is the main different between 10" 2.5 and 10" 4.5, does it matter? Thanks and much appreciated.
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post Mar 27 2018, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(bluesky87 @ Mar 27 2018, 06:20 PM)
So what can I do at the moment? Get a cheapo one first with piping fixed? And I am still confuse what exactly this filter is. We are talking about a filter that looks like this picture right?

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So I assume the picture above is 10" by 2.5? And what is the main different between 10" 2.5 and 10" 4.5, does it matter? Thanks and much appreciated.
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Yes, the picture is the housing for 10" x 2.5" cartridge. Very common and easy to get.
As for 10 x 4.5, the diameter is larger as it offers more surface area and last longer between cartridge replacement. But don't bother about 4.5", you can't get this size easily in the market.

Make sure you ask your plumber to instal double housing in series during the installation so that you can add on carbon cartridge in the second housing if need to. If carbon filter is unnecessary, you can put a good quality 5 micron pleated polyester in it too.
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post Mar 27 2018, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(bluesky87 @ Mar 27 2018, 06:20 PM)
So what can I do at the moment? Get a cheapo one first with piping fixed? And I am still confuse what exactly this filter is. We are talking about a filter that looks like this picture right?

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So I assume the picture above is 10" by 2.5? And what is the main different between 10" 2.5 and 10" 4.5, does it matter? Thanks and much appreciated.
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Yes, can get the cheapo for now. I will try to find one for you, today/tomorrow, available locally.

The difference between 2.5" and 4.5" is the flow. The one you showed is 2.5", it's ok for let's say under the sink or shower filter, but too small for whole house/condo.

Do you use a lot of water at the same time? Do you often have a situation where 2 people shower and one washing dishes? If your "at the same time" usage is very high, you may even need 20" by 4.5".
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post Mar 27 2018, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Mar 27 2018, 06:36 PM)
Yes, the picture is the housing for 10" x 2.5" cartridge. Very common and easy to get.
As for 10 x 4.5, the diameter is larger as it offers more surface area and last longer between cartridge replacement. But don't bother about 4.5", you can't get this size easily in the market.

Make sure you ask your plumber to instal double housing in series during the installation so that you can add on carbon cartridge in the second housing if need to. If carbon filter is unnecessary, you can put a good quality 5 micron pleated polyester in it too.
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Thanks! Install double housing once and for all so that don't have to mess with the pipping again in the future you mean? If carbon is unnecessary, does it make sense to put two of the same filter?

QUOTE(hestati @ Mar 27 2018, 06:39 PM)
Yes, can get the cheapo for now. I will try to find one for you, today/tomorrow, available locally.

The difference between 2.5" and 4.5" is the flow. The one you showed is 2.5", it's ok for let's say under the sink or shower filter, but too small for whole house/condo.

Do you use a lot of water at the same time? Do you often have a situation where 2 people shower and one washing dishes? If your "at the same time" usage is very high, you may even need 20" by 4.5".
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Thanks! Available locally mostly from this website http://malaysiawaterfilter.com.my/

I also found a lot of xx brand in Jusco and they are cheap (both housing and filter), haven't got the time to visit ACE hardware yet.

Flow is important as my condo water is just so so but I also need the cartridge replacement to be widely available when I needed to replace it. I will be installing the filter at the POE, so not under sink or shower filter. Seems like 20" by 4.5" is the safe route to go, once and for all right? But cost wise will it be double?
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post Mar 27 2018, 07:32 PM

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Here is my setup at the moment from a local shop for 399.

Consist of 1 carbon block, 1 granular carbon, and 1 fibre sendiment filter.

My total cost including the diamond drill bit was about rm700 plus, including the filter head.

This will be my main drinking tap water, but will still keep to boiling for drinking.

I expect to change once a year, since the existing water in the condo is quite clean itself, aside from the chlorine.

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Here is my setup at the moment from a local shop for 399.

Consist of 1 carbon block, 1 granular carbon, and 1 fibre sendiment filter.

My total cost including the diamond drill bit was about rm700 plus, including the filter head.

This will be my main drinking tap water, but will still keep to boiling for drinking.

I expect to change once a year, since the existing water in the condo is quite clean itself, aside from the chlorine.

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Where did you buy the housings?
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post Mar 27 2018, 09:16 PM

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A filter shop in Klang, bukit tinggi. But i think any filter water shop should have something familiar. It's not far from giant. They sell mostly on water fountain and auto water dispenser
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post Mar 28 2018, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(ShenWoo @ Mar 27 2018, 07:32 PM)
Here is my setup at the moment from a local shop for 399.

Consist of 1 carbon block, 1 granular carbon, and 1 fibre sendiment filter.

My total cost including the diamond drill bit was about rm700 plus, including the filter head.

This will be my main drinking tap water, but will still keep to boiling for drinking.

I expect to change once a year, since the existing water in the condo is quite clean itself, aside from the chlorine.

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RM700 all in is a good price in my opinion. This looks like a 10" by 4.5" right? Will this be my best bet at the moment hestati?

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post Mar 28 2018, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(bluesky87 @ Mar 28 2018, 12:07 PM)
RM700 all in is a good price in my opinion. This looks like a 10" by 4.5" right? Will this be my best bet at the moment hestati?
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For PoU ? 10" x 2.5" is good enough. Cartridge also cheap and easy to get. You can diy a 3-stage filter housing for around RM100+ like mine here https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=88081533
You can go to any water filter shop and ask the shop to assemble it for you on the spot. You pay only the cost of the parts.

After you got the housing ready, you can then ask hestati where you can buy a good quality sediment filter for 1st stage, sub-micron for 2nd and Carbon for 3rd stage.

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post Mar 28 2018, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Mar 28 2018, 01:38 PM)
For PoU ? 10" x 2.5" is good enough. Cartridge also cheap and easy to get. You can diy a 3-stage filter housing for around RM100+  like mine here https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=88081533
You can go to any water filter shop and ask the shop to assemble it for you on the spot. You pay only the cost of the parts.

After you got the housing ready,  you can then ask hestati where you can buy a good quality sediment filter for 1st stage, sub-micron for 2nd and Carbon for 3rd stage.
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Mine is not for drinking. Drinking will be using other system. Mine is just to filter out initial stage, acting like a POE. Is 10" x 2.5" sufficient for the whole condo? If it is not sufficient, does it mean the consequences will be I have to change the cartridge more often only? Cause I don't think I have space for 20" x 4.5" now that I think about it.

Last but not least, does the housing matters? As in any capalang housing will do is it? Most importantly is good quality filter correct?
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post Mar 28 2018, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(bluesky87 @ Mar 28 2018, 05:19 PM)
Mine is not for drinking. Drinking will be using other system. Mine is just to filter out initial stage, acting like a POE. Is 10" x 2.5" sufficient for the whole condo? If it is not sufficient, does it mean the consequences will be I have to change the cartridge more often only? Cause I don't think I have space for 20" x 4.5" now that I think about it.

Last but not least, does the housing matters? As in any capalang housing will do is it? Most importantly is good quality filter correct?
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Housing is VERY important for drinking water. For POE not so much. For drinking, better be NSF and from good manufacturer/country. The problem with cheap housing is plastic leaching and it could be very bad, especially since leaching increases significantly with temperature, and Malaysia is not a cold country, our water temperature is often near 30 degrees and it will be sitting in this housing, sometimes overnight! But since good POU will filter plastic, POE housing is not so critical.

Yes, you need at least 4.5" by 10" for POE. 4.5 by 20" is hard to fit.

So yes, if you find local 4.5" by 10" now, set up 2 in a row with any filters, then can change for better filters. And yes, if you do not use carbon, can do 20 micron+5 micron sediment in the future.
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post Mar 28 2018, 05:44 PM

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Why not use 20 inch by 2.5 inch. I find this common enough in the shop I when too.
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post Mar 28 2018, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Mar 28 2018, 05:28 PM)
Housing is VERY important for drinking water. For POE not so much. For drinking, better be NSF and from good manufacturer/country. The problem with cheap housing is plastic leaching and it could be very bad, especially since leaching increases significantly with temperature, and Malaysia is not a cold country, our water temperature is often near 30 degrees and it will be sitting in this housing, sometimes overnight! But since good POU will filter plastic, POE housing is not so critical.

Yes, you need at least 4.5" by 10" for POE. 4.5 by 20" is hard to fit.

So yes, if you find local 4.5" by 10" now, set up 2 in a row with any filters, then can change for better filters. And yes, if you do not use carbon, can do 20 micron+5 micron sediment in the future.
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Okay thanks again for the detailed explanation. So my mission now is to find a 4.5" by 10" housing and filter first. Then in the near future when you carry good quality filter then can get it from you correct?

On the side note, will this setup affect water pressure? If yes, will it be noticeable or barely? Thanks.
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post Mar 29 2018, 12:53 AM

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for condominium how to install POE ? even management allow to , got sufficient space ?
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QUOTE(Pain4UrsinZ @ Mar 29 2018, 12:53 AM)
for condominium how to install POE ? even management allow to , got sufficient space ?
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That's why I am installing small one only. Can install at yard area, management usually won't allow to install at main pipe room.

Anyway, yesterday went to ACE hardware and saw only this two housing available. Is this good enough?

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QUOTE(bluesky87 @ Mar 29 2018, 12:57 PM)
That's why I am installing small one only. Can install at yard area, management usually won't allow to install at main pipe room.

Anyway, yesterday went to ACE hardware and saw only this two housing available. Is this good enough?

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install at yard, the one come from yard is the main pipe ? ...need to hack the wall ? must be done by professional ?
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post Mar 29 2018, 01:42 PM

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It has pressure release button and metal inserts, good buy.
Buy two units for 2-stage filtering, put normal pp cartridge in the 1st stage and good quality 5 micron in the 2nd. If water pressure effected too much, just use one housing.
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Mar 29 2018, 01:42 PM)
It has pressure release button and metal inserts, good buy.
Buy two units for 2-stage filtering, put normal pp cartridge in the 1st stage and good quality 5 micron in the 2nd. If water pressure effected too much, just use one housing.
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What is the purpose of the metal inserts?

How can one prevent mold from growing in the housing if put it under the sun? I have seen it a lot in some houses.

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