What he is trying to say, hospitals throw the medicine into river, river flow into water treatment plant and how do we guarantee the medicines are treated properly?

i bliv most of us have been to clinic or hospital and saw this bin before


Hospitals dont simply throw them in river, they separate them and dispose accordingly, wanna know more how malaysia dispose these waste? check this youtube video


Unless u r getting water from a private well, and there is agriculture nearby then you have to worry about all these. VIRUS are mainly from human or animal feces. Unless our syabas water after treatment is mixed with sewage water, then we have to worry about this. Other than that, virus wont be in our pipeline, unlike bacteria can grow in pipeline but not virus.

If you are using private well and there is factory/mining/plantation and etc nearby, then u have to worry all these and even AMWAY might not be good enough, you need a RO system to be safe.

What he is trying to say, hospitals throw the medicine into river, river flow into water treatment plant and how do we guarantee the medicines are treated properly?

i bliv most of us have been to clinic or hospital and saw this bin before


Hospitals dont simply throw them in river, they separate them and dispose accordingly, wanna know more how malaysia dispose these waste? check this youtube video


Unless u r getting water from a private well, and there is agriculture nearby then you have to worry about all these. VIRUS are mainly from human or animal feces. Unless our syabas water after treatment is mixed with sewage water, then we have to worry about this. Other than that, virus wont be in our pipeline, unlike bacteria can grow in pipeline but not virus.

If you are using private well and there is factory/mining/plantation and etc nearby, then u have to worry all these and even AMWAY might not be good enough, you need a RO system to be safe.

Her argument has too many flaws. Simply tembak and pluck anything from the sky for the sake of argument. Anyway, I was pretty much entertained.

Huh? I wonder why u need to keep specific Amway eSpring just because u sell other brands? Or you can prove that just your filter can do it?

It just very simple to clear that malaysian or household got possible to throw medicine to thier dusbin right. Then if the medicine is dispose to other place, then when rain fall it will assimilate into sand, and there is possible of the sand will flow to the nearest river, how can we make sure that there is no any pollution from the sand that flow to the nearest river? More than that, how can we make sure that the dam that flow from many river is no polluted w medicine or other chemical things? Or whether you can prove only your water filter able to filter water that mix with vitamin D as it smells bad. But is it true eSpring can do it.

Ya, JBA water use chlorine to killed those bacteria, but when the water is stop (means no one using the pipe) the chlorine will precipitation. So how to justify that the water is totally no pollute when u first open the water filter/pipe as you say bacteria form from the pipes? No harmful to clear out that the UV light got it big usage if comsumer does not want only RO water which also filter out all mineral that we need right? At last decison still made by them.

I bet you tell this to your customers to convince them to buy eSpring from you? This is a blatant lie, you just conveniently hide the fact that there is a water treatment plant between the water source and the end users to treat those water.
I bet you tell that to your customers too. You are such an unprofessional and dishonest eSpring sales woman. You are using scare tactic with imaginary theory just to close sales.
I already countered your unfounded claim above, go read it.

At first, just ask about the medicine info but dont know why got ppl so sensitive and so sure that it does not contain medicine since there is so many way to lead the medicine to river before water treatment plant. Weird...I believe ppl at here just want willing to share and ask about information because they need. But wonder why got some people keep say with nonsense with attack other brands? Just because they want to prove their brand is number 1? You may go ahead and prove it....Else why keep misleading? Oppss too bad

Anyway, there is no point to argue at here since at last consumers will decide by themsleves if u all really think that yours brands is the best. Just prove it. Chill......

Hi, did you see my post clearly? Yes Crystal clear.

i not say that water from household is straight come from river.
You did, see, you didn't realise there is such thing called water treatment plant at that point.
I just ask how can u even government also can't make sure that there is no any pollution around the dam I don't quite get you. But I did not guarantee any thing. Pls quote me if you come across one.

Even if the medicine is dispose to other place, then when rain fall it will assimilate into sand, and there is possible of the sand will flow to the nearest river, how can we make sure that there is no any pollution from the sand that flow to the nearest river? More than that, how can we make sure that the dam that flow from many river is no polluted w medicine or other chemical things?Kindly justify whether your water filter able to filter water that mix with vitamin D as it smells bad. 
Can you accept the fact that there is a thing called Water Treatment Plant for once ? Yes, there will be all sort of pollutions at river stage but water will be treated at water treatment plant before last mile distribution. You keep looping on pollutions at pre-treatment stage. Adui...

Another point, since last time i see the post, the water flow to our house is contain of chlorine due to JBA water use chlorine to killed those bacteria, but when the water is stop (means no one using the pipe) the chlorine will precipitation. So how to justify that the water is totally no pollute when u first open the water filter/pipe? If the water flow from the pipe is full with bacteria, then this is the usage of the UV light help to kill all the gems and bacteria.
Precipitation ? Quite rare to hear this term coz Chlorine melting point is -ve 101°C, Don't tell me you are living in somewhere beyond with such extreme temperature?   Sorry im not water filter seller, I have very limited knowledge but I do know chlorine EVAPORATES !! You need to expose water to the air in order to evaporate the Chlorine.
So back to your argument "when the water is stop (means no one using the pipe) the chlorine will precipitation evaporate". My opinion is unless you never turn on your water tap for long period of time and your entire Taman also never turn on the water tap for a long period of time, no fresh treated chlorinated water coming from JBA/SYABAS,  then yes, the Chlorine will evaporate eventually but will take time and cooperation from the all taman neighborhood not to use water. But it's still doesn't warrant a RM4K eSpring UV filter, coz you can easily discard the stagnant water in your pipe lines by letting the water run for a few minutes. I'm not saying you can't use eSpring, it's your money and your call but don't try to deceive the forum and incite fear that our Malaysian water is so bad and not safe to drink even after filtered by a certified water filter.
add on:
Oh no wonder, you are an eSpring seller.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=84859072

So you must be retiring now ? Why work so hard here?

haha, good question. Thought maybe can prolong another few years.

True not every people can afford expensive filters. Due to budget constraint, i bought 3m ap easy complete but later changed to aquaphor crystal eco as shown in my previous post as 3m gets clogged every few months while my new aquaphor lasted me more than 1 year without clogging. As the flow is still good, dont really want to change it yet actually. Water still taste great, i drink directly without boiling.

Dont really like those direct salesperson, if they cant sell you the product, they will keep trying to scare you and bug you. There are people trying to push me kangen, espring and other products and they are super expensive.

anyone here using the Rubine outdoor filter?

It is actually using Hollow Fibre Membrane technology similar to most of the brands in malaysia. Checked website, if u r looking for stainless steel RUF-5024B-AP  would b better as the casing is able to withstand 6 bar of pressure. Normally our pressure is 2 to 3.5 bar but some areas do have 5 bar pressure. Hence, for better durability get RUF-5024B-AP.

As per user manual, the installation will look like this
http://www.rubine.com.my/product_manual/RU...User-Manual.pdf

Note : I dont sell Rubine membrane filter, but i do have something better

Can elaborate on the better product.....so many membrane filter in the market and choosing a better one sometime is hard.

I think you dont know that i am talking about chlorine will precipitation when the water is stop (means no ppl use the water pipe like go sleep thn morning just open the pipe) but not evaporate ? Do you need google it? Please dont simply change ppl word just to prove your word?   

Since when and where you see I keep selling eSpring or keep promote it a? But another one do it for other brand.....

Anyway, too free? Oppsssss   Well being entertained..

Sis, I don't agree with your new found theory that Chlorine will "precipitate" when water in the pipe is stagnant overnight.
Assuming your customer ask you this question : Chlorine melting point is -101°C and our Malaysia climate on everage is 30°C except highlands, how is it possible for Chlorine to "precipitate"?
How would you answer your customer?

I think you want to say that chlorine will melt at 101°C which you means it will evaporate at -101°C also, since Malaysia climate average is 30°C so that it's hard to melting or evaporate?

First, precipitate （沉淀） is different from melting or evaporate. Chlorine will precipitate when the water pipe is stagnant overnight means it will not function well to killed those bacteria in our pipe.

As effective as chlorine is at killing most waterborne bacteria and viruses, some microorganisms like Cryptosporidium are resistant to this chemical, so people with compromised immune system may need to install a home water filter system certified for microbial cyst reduction even if their water supply is disinfected with chlorine. In addition, chlorine can react with naturally-occurring materials in the water to form by-products like trihalomethanes and haloacetic acid, which may pose health risks at high levels.

I mentioned Chlorine melting point is -101°C but your understanding on this was melt at 101°C and evaporate at -101°C is, I'm just speechless.

Let's focus only on your very own Ch33r "theories":
1) Chlorine don't evaporate from water, it "precipitate" when water is stagnant.
2) when chlorine "Precipitated" it will not function well to kill those bacteria in our pipe.

Yes. Precipitation（沉淀) and evaporation are different processes, we all acknowledged that.
Now the very basic question is when the water is stagnant, how is it possible for Chlorine to "presipitate" when its melting point is -ve 101°C ?
After 1st theories can be reasonably explained, only then we can proceed to your "theory" no.2.

Here are some important properties of chlorine to help you out with more sensible explaination.
Chlorine boiling point is : −34.04 °C
Physical phase : Gas.

I repeat the question again:
When the water is stagnant, how is it possible for Chlorine to "presipitate" when its melting point is -ve 101°C ?
Kindly give and simple but reasonable explanation.

First, chlorine melting point is -101°C And evaporate also at -101°C, before is a typo just like you use evarage instead of average.

There is no related between melting point to precipitate, chlorine will precipitate when it oxidized which is mixed with potasium or magnesium, not your own theory that what what what melting point that is no any related.

And last, since you said this just end but why still quarrel of it, I am speechless and it seem you really really too free or what. No idea. 
I no need keep explain to you at here since you just like keep misunderstanding or what, there is no point, ahaaa, you WIN, there is no point for quarrel, you may continue......

Another point, since last time i see the post, the water flow to our house is contain of chlorine due to JBA water use chlorine to killed those bacteria, but when the water is stop (means no one using the pipe) the chlorine will precipitation. So how to justify that the water is totally no pollute when u first open the water filter/pipe? If the water flow from the pipe is full with bacteria, then this is the usage of the UV light help to kill all the gems and bacteria. This just clear out that the UV light still got it big usage but at last still need to depends on consumers budget and what they really want.