Eh not at all. It takes very fine ultra filtration such as in that RO (0.0001? micron) to remove dissolved minerals

I'm using Elken RO too. One group of people say RO no good because no minerals, only suitable for patient with kidney problem. Another group of people say RO is pure H2O, totally harmless, minerals from the food we eat is more than enough. What is your opinion on RO water as drinking water.

So that you means after the water treatment plant before water flow into our household, the medicine already 100% being treated? I think it does not report even if the water contain minor medicines but at last it still contain medicines inside the water.

This post has been edited by Ch33r: May 31 2017, 11:34 PM

I already told you there were 16 rivers contaminations last year but never come across any news that consumers complains about medicine contamination in syabas water. What about your area? Got medicine contamination in your service water? You better check if indeed your house service water is untreated. Normally only very ulu ulu places do not have sewerage treatment plant and water treatment plant.

As a consumers, do you know even the water contains medicines? So that if don't know how they gonna to complains? But it does not means the water does not contains even little medicines.

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Can you just name what are those little medicines ? I seriously don't know, since you knew it and you keep saying water contains some little medicines, why don't you just share it?
I'm puzzled

At first, I just asked for is it can 100% confirm that medicines will being treated after water treatment plant since it got chance for medicines to flow into river. For those unusage medicines that pack by hospital or household will throw to a place may be like rubbish collection station or what. Since after rain, it got chance to bring the medicines from the earth to the river. We also cannot 100% say that it will disappear after water treatment plant.
No need so sensitive .

This post has been edited by Ch33r: Jun 1 2017, 12:43 AM

Sis, where is the sensitive part ?
Your question has too many flaws. But allow me to explain to you with my limited knowledge in this field.
Household sewerage don't end up in the river. There is a sewerage treatment plant for this purpose.
Household service water don't come directly from river. River water has to be treated by water treatment plant first.
If you are paying water bill every month, your tap water is a treated water.
It's a very bold claim to say hospital wastes ended up in the river, hospital wastes are collected by specialized contractor and send it to a treatment plant.
And lastly you meantioned about rubbish dumpsites, I'm not sure if there is any dumpsite which is near to a water reservoir. I supposed a legal dumpsite should be far away from any water source or river. Can you name any dumpsite which is near to a river and household medicine waste contaminate the river ?
You insist that treated tap water contains "medicine", then please give a more sensible and reliable explanation, tolong.

Oh ya, talking about water contamination, do you think people from Cemeron Highland drink pesticide and herbicide contaminated water every day? I guess the river there is pretty much contaminated.

Hi, did you see my post clearly, i not say that water from household is straight come from river. I just ask how can u even government also can't make sure that there is no any pollution around the dam just like you cannot 100 % guarantee that after water treatment plant the water go to our household is 100% does not contain any medicine even a minor. Even if the medicine is dispose to other place, then when rain fall it will assimilate into sand, and there is possible of the sand will flow to the nearest river, how can we make sure that there is no any pollution from the sand that flow to the nearest river? More than that, how can we make sure that the dam that flow from many river is no polluted w medicine or other chemical things?Kindly justify whether your water filter able to filter water that mix with vitamin D as it smells bad.

Another point, since last time i see the post, the water flow to our house is contain of chlorine due to JBA water use chlorine to killed those bacteria, but when the water is stop (means no one using the pipe) the chlorine will precipitation. So how to justify that the water is totally no pollute when u first open the water filter/pipe? If the water flow from the pipe is full with bacteria, then this is the usage of the UV light help to kill all the gems and bacteria. This just clear out that the UV light still got it big usage but at last still need to depends on consumers budget and what they really want.

I am wondering any of you guys still using
Amway eSpring - Model E3411-M?

or can we still get the cartridge replacement and the UV light replacement?

Yours one is second generation like this first pic? The first pic is second generation and as i know the cartridge and the UV light will be discontinued start from August, so i think now still available but after August it will stop to produce.


Or the second pic a? The second pic one is combined with cartridge and UV light together so when replace the filter just one.


This post has been edited by Ch33r: Jun 1 2017, 10:52 AM

Yes, the model i have is similar to the first image.

Do you know how much roughly for the cartridge and UV replacement?
Has been in the house for very long but not in use. So planning to move that to my new house as water filter.

This post has been edited by nonadoes: Jun 1 2017, 10:54 AM

So I think yours one is tis? This one will discontinued after August. How you gonna to change this cartridge for next year if you need to change it a?

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haha, good question. Thought maybe can prolong another few years.

1 micron alone is not sufficient to remove calcium and magnesium.

TO effectively remove minerals, you need RO system (Reverse Osmosis) which is 0.0001 micron
https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/drinking/h..._treatment.html

What he is trying to say, hospitals throw the medicine into river, river flow into water treatment plant and how do we guarantee the medicines are treated properly?

i bliv most of us have been to clinic or hospital and saw this bin before


Hospitals dont simply throw them in river, they separate them and dispose accordingly, wanna know more how malaysia dispose these waste? check this youtube video


Unless u r getting water from a private well, and there is agriculture nearby then you have to worry about all these. VIRUS are mainly from human or animal feces. Unless our syabas water after treatment is mixed with sewage water, then we have to worry about this. Other than that, virus wont be in our pipeline, unlike bacteria can grow in pipeline but not virus.

If you are using private well and there is factory/mining/plantation and etc nearby, then u have to worry all these and even AMWAY might not be good enough, you need a RO system to be safe.

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Jun 1 2017, 11:58 AM

Hi, did you see my post clearly? Yes Crystal clear.

i not say that water from household is straight come from river.
You did, see, you didn't realise there is such thing called water treatment plant at that point.
I just ask how can u even government also can't make sure that there is no any pollution around the dam I don't quite get you. But I did not guarantee any thing. Pls quote me if you come across one.

Even if the medicine is dispose to other place, then when rain fall it will assimilate into sand, and there is possible of the sand will flow to the nearest river, how can we make sure that there is no any pollution from the sand that flow to the nearest river? More than that, how can we make sure that the dam that flow from many river is no polluted w medicine or other chemical things?Kindly justify whether your water filter able to filter water that mix with vitamin D as it smells bad.
Can you accept the fact that there is a thing called Water Treatment Plant for once ? Yes, there will be all sort of pollutions at river stage but water will be treated at water treatment plant before last mile distribution. You keep looping on pollutions at pre-treatment stage. Adui...

Another point, since last time i see the post, the water flow to our house is contain of chlorine due to JBA water use chlorine to killed those bacteria, but when the water is stop (means no one using the pipe) the chlorine will precipitation. So how to justify that the water is totally no pollute when u first open the water filter/pipe? If the water flow from the pipe is full with bacteria, then this is the usage of the UV light help to kill all the gems and bacteria.
Precipitation ? Quite rare to hear this term coz Chlorine melting point is -ve 101°C, Don't tell me you are living in somewhere beyond with such extreme temperature? Sorry im not water filter seller, I have very limited knowledge but I do know chlorine EVAPORATES !! You need to expose water to the air in order to evaporate the Chlorine.
So back to your argument "when the water is stop (means no one using the pipe) the chlorine will precipitation evaporate". My opinion is unless you never turn on your water tap for long period of time and your entire Taman also never turn on the water tap for a long period of time, no fresh treated chlorinated water coming from JBA/SYABAS, then yes, the Chlorine will evaporate eventually but will take time and cooperation from the all taman neighborhood not to use water. But it's still doesn't warrant a RM4K eSpring UV filter, coz you can easily discard the stagnant water in your pipe lines by letting the water run for a few minutes. I'm not saying you can't use eSpring, it's your money and your call but don't try to deceive the forum and incite fear that our Malaysian water is so bad and not safe to drink even after filtered by a certified water filter.


add on:
Oh no wonder, you are an eSpring seller.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=84859072
So you must be retiring now ? Why work so hard here?

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Jun 1 2017, 12:41 PM