Now days youngster....who won't wake up until 9 - 11 am.
For them are brekkie

Breakie ='Breakfast

What do u mean shop there don't really open til 9am?

i meant not many shops will be open before 9am

Then I don't hike up there, just stroll around a little bit .. catch some glimpse.

Yah, bit rush coz we only stay for 2N in Kyoto. Mainly will be in Osaka coz lots of shopping to do.

Last time in Osaka also similar situation. Being tourist, try to make full use of the timing.. getting out earlier but yet most shop still close. Even the Kuromon Market in Osaka (market man).. 8am like still sleeping.

@RegentCid, can you help to verify is this route correct from Osaka to Arima Onsen ? Is the Arima Onsen walking distance from the Arima Onsen station?

1. From Osaka JR Station take JR Line to Sannomiya JR Station
2. Then take Kobe-shieichikatetsu Line to Tanigami Station
3. Then take Kobe Dentetsu Line to Arimaguchi Station
4. Then take Shintetsu arima line to Arima Onsen
Total time 60mins


Found another route because not sure if the above route correct. Which route is easier for 1st timer?



Thanks thanks

winter time, most shops open at 10am ohh....

No no no.
Too slow too slow.....
First you need to take Hankyu Railway to Rokko Station. Then taking Rokko cable car to Mountain Rokko. At Mountain Rokko then switch to Rokko Arima Ropeway to Arima Onsen.

Anyone going to o tokyo this coming august.
Me not sure about own plan.
Thinking of follow ppl plan this time.
Hahaha :-D

@RegentCid, this one correct ? from Osaka to Rokko station (560 yen / 46 mins)

Then from Rokko Station take Kobe City Bus #16 to base station Rokko Cable (210 yen/10mins)
Take Cable Car to Mountain Rokko (590 yen /10mins) and
Take circular bus line to top station (260 yen/10mins) and from Rokko Arima Ropeway (1010 yen /12mins, 1820 yen round trip) down to Arima Onsen

Total time : 78mins / ~2630 yen

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This route 60 mins only and cheap ¥1,290. Why cannot ?
1. From Osaka JR Station take JR Line to Sannomiya JR Station
2. Then take Kobe-shieichikatetsu Line to Tanigami Station
3. Then take Kobe Dentetsu Line to Arimaguchi Station
4. Then take Shintetsu arima line to Arima Onsen

Someone here adviced me that 7am breakfast at kuramon ichiba is too late. I went there almost 6am and nothing open yet. Next day I went there at 7 something and only the grocery shop started to open. Other shop just started to bring in the fishes and other stuff. While the restaurants actually mentioned that they open later than 8am. Lucky there's family mart nearby so I can have my breakfast.

Maybe in autumn the timing is diff.

In the end, I never had the chance to visit the market when it's open. But still early morning walk during autumn is dam freaking nice.

This post has been edited by lastlovesong: Jul 2 2015, 05:02 PM

From Osaka Station just need to walk to Hankyu Umeda Station then all the way to Rokko Station.
Rokko Station to Rokko Cable Car by shuttle bus.
Take your time few hour enjoy the beauty of Mountain Rokko by walking.
Then ropeway to arima onsen.
Reach Arima also slow walk to the hotel. Enjoy the view.

Buy Kansai Thru Pass. It cover all.

This route taking longer but the view extremly beauty.

From Arima Onsen to Osaka can used normal route which is yours one. Make compare........beauty vs boring.

This post has been edited by RegentCid: Jul 2 2015, 06:03 PM

Hi all, i am planning for a 10 days trip to Japan (First timer)

Knowing that most of you have been to Japan before, i would appreciate it if you could give me some opinion on my itinerary.

I plan to land in Osaka and fly out from Tokyo, do you think it's a good idea?
My trip will basically be like this: Osaka -> Kyoto -> Tokyo. In between i might add in Nara or Nayoga perhaps.

But what i'm trying to ask is, if the whole idea of landing in Osaka and fly out from Tokyo is a wise one? Or do you think i should land and fly out from the same airport?

Please advise.
And i would appreciate it if you could suggest some of the itinerary that would be practical for my trip. Thanks in advance!

7 days trips?
Not advise. Not a wise idea.
Osaka and Kyoto this 2 city enough kill you in 7 days.

@RegentCid amazing!!! Thank you
Definitely BEAUTY and the Kansai Thru Pass u recommended nail it down!!!! Plus offers on onsen entries and others tourist spots!!! Here's the finding on the PASS, not sure if PASS allows for return tickets for Cable Car and Ropeway as didn't find the restriction on the PDF Guide.

With Kansai Thru Pass:
from Osaka to Rokko station (560 yen / 46 mins) - Covered
Then from Rokko Station take Kobe City Bus #16 to base station Rokko Cable (210 yen/10mins) - Covered
Take Cable Car to Mountain Rokko (590 yen-20% /10mins) and
Take circular bus line to top station (260 yen/10mins) - Not sure if walking will be better option with scenery
and from Rokko Arima Ropeway (1010 yen-20% /12mins, 1820 yen round trip) down to Arima Onsen
Total time : 78mins / ~1540 yen (Saving ~1000 yen vs Kansai Thru 2 days PASS 4000 yen)

This post has been edited by chlangle: Jul 3 2015, 10:47 AM

You need to decide for yourself.
First research kansai area, decide what you want to do, and evaluate how many days it takes. If everything you interested in end up need 8 days then why bother travelling to Tokyo (for example)
If you decide that you wanna cover Tokyo as well then compare the flight price difference and schedule
Then consider how you plan to travel to/from kansai/Tokyo - what cost, and time needed.
With this info then you sendiri decide does it make sense to fly open jaw or not.

FYI for first timer, generally 10 days you won't be able to cover all the major touristy stuff in both places.

what date u flying? im also flying in Osaka on Jan 2016

im also flying in Osaka n fly out Tokyo, compared tix n not much difference, as it covers more ground n more convenient. Like they said, 10D might be packed for osaka n kyoto (depending whats ur interest), adding tokyo will probably kill ur trip

im already planning for 12 days at osaka + kyoto + nearby areas ,, then slowly make my way to tokyo.

This post has been edited by AeronBabe: Jul 3 2015, 11:02 AM

I'm flying on 17th Morning..

Any recommended shop for one piece store in Tokyo? One piece cafe too if there is.