may need 2hp, can use online calculator and see recommendations. My room abt 380sf uses 2hp and some area cold air not reachable.

This is the Panasonic unit I mentioned in my other posts.
Installed it in my other bedroom on 2008 if I'm not wrong. Before this unit there was the Acson unit which came from the master bedroom and that unit was installed for a few months and then the Acson was replaced by this Panasonic. Like the Mr Slim at the master bedroom, the left side is so close to the wall.

This unit has Patrol Sensor and e ion thing and all those. Not inverter though

It's used everyday with 25c on High speed fan.
This unit still works nicely. Cooling is very cold even on 25. Fan noise is loud but got used to it anyway.

The only problem I have with it is the swing motor is broken. The swing motor got damaged while servicing it last year for some reason. Everytime the swing tried to move it makes a loud clack clack clack noise and swing is jammed (How to fix that)



This post has been edited by MrToper: Jul 12 2015, 01:55 PM

IF Daikin GA has R410A for the same amount of money as the Panasonic, I'll choose it. So far the Panasonic is one of the most affordable non-inverter R410A air conditioner.

If you've followed this thread you'll see I have no particular inclination towards Panasonic, despite having 3 of their air cons in my home. (One of them a National).

My suggestion is based on what's best for your use case.

Okay.. But how high are your ceiling?

Pana inverter after few wash to condition coil not as good, very poor on coil condition

My old Panasonic in the master bedroom coil also look somewhat like that. Only more worse.

Ya even no chemical also can be getting rusty

look like pana quality is getting poor...no wonder cheaper than other type.

can someone show also other brand cooling coil after services ??

Daikin Thailand still look good, but the fan blower can't be remove is an issue too..


Actually Daikin ga is much better than Pana.


The best quality of cooling coil was ME only, so far is seen.


Hitachi also much worst, just I knew how to remove by myself only.

Fujitsu inverter good also, but the drain pan can't be remove also difficult to clean on fan blower by normal service.

why other brands no copy ME liao?

I honestly cannot sleep.

My worry is that I underloaded the ACs I got for the rooms. I also worry that I will be paying more on my power bill.

17sqm
- East facing window that has tint and blackout curtains
- Cement walls all around
- 2.5m ceiling
- Top floor
- Wooden floor and ceiling
- Two wooden doors
- One person
- One desktop with LED display
-- 2.0hp LG HS-18ISM
--- EER 13.9 Kj/h.W
--- Cooling capacity of 19,438 Kj/h or 18,423 Btu/h
(Non-inverter AC would be 1.0 to 1.5hp for 17sqm)



17sqm
- East facing window that has tint and blackout curtains
- South facing window that has tint and blackout curtains
- Cement walls all around
- 2.5m ceiling
- Top floor
- Wooden floor and ceiling
- Two wooden doors
- One person
- One desktop with LED display
-- 2.0hp LG HS-18ISM
--- EER 13.9 Kj/h.W
--- Cooling capacity of 19,438 Kj/h or 18,423 Btu/h
(Non-inverter AC would be 1.0 to 1.5hp for 17sqm)

28sqm
- East facing window that has tint and blackout curtains
- South facing window that has tint and blackout curtains
- Cement walls all around
- 2.5m ceiling
- Top floor
- Wooden floor and ceiling
- Two wooden doors
- One person
- One 40-inch LCD HDTV
-- 2.5hp LG HS-24ISM
--- EER 13.78 Kj/h.W
--- Cooling capacity of 22,317 Kj/h or 21,152 Btu/h
(Non-inverter AC would be 1.5 to 2.0hp for 28sqm)

This post has been edited by dolina: Jul 13 2015, 04:15 AM

The reason who want pay more to made the same quality

Don't understand why you calculate, anyway just a room size from 3x4 or 3x5m wide, if high ceiling is no bother at all.

Operate is depend you turn on from 5hrs or 8hrs per night.

If more than 3 hrs per night should go for inverter, the best cheaper inverter just go with Daikin Ga.

Thanks kimsim.

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Since reading the 0.5hp increase allowance for inverter ACs I wondered why this was a Philippine-specific rule. I say this because I cannot find any non-Philippine reference on this. The Malaysians I asked on a forum never heard of it. India's "Consumer Voice" magazine does not mention this either.

I think this started with older or some inverter AC models that did not have a rapid cooling function like LG's "Jet Cool". This feature I have.

It's something I did not expect so I am half disappointed

I talked to the surveyor and he said 1.5hp inverter can cool 17sqm but countered the extra 0.5hp would give give me the adequate overhead when days become warmer and my power consumption would be better in the long run with the extra leg room. I hope he's right or else I just bought extra performance that i will never or rarely use.

It is also possible that is that they are compensating for poorly insulated rooms to avoid complaints from unhappy customers. To which I cannot blame them for doing so.

Or they just wanted to push models that are slow sellers or gave them a better margin per unit sold.

In future purchases I suggest those buying to read carefully the inverter ac they are eyeing for rapid cooling functionalities like LG's "Jet Cool". Other brand owners should see and share what it is named with their units.

I knew this function was present in LG ACs but under the name of "Himalayan Cool" for the South Asian market but seeming the functionality wasn't named in any PH specific product I didn't bother looking for it. Renaming the function from one market to the next may make it better understood in different cultures but it is confusing leading to wrong purchases. Bad move LG.

My contractor recommended Daikin GA;

1. What's the difference between Daikin and Daikin GA? (Confusing me)

2. Any comment on Hitachi latest Air Sleep model? The casing looks cool

Panasonic inverter aircon technical data looks very promising but now the problem here only reliability issue, hope more Pana Inverter owner share their experience

Pana, is reliability too, part also cheap, but just remember to top up extended warranty for indoor unit.

Swing motor & PCB is depend on luck only.

The rest still works fine

All air cond will end up like this(rusted) regardless of brands.
The key point is do regular maintenance, like 1 - 1.5 years have to service.
The main filter shall be cleaned once every 2 weeks, this is to prevent dust build up and causing the sides are being soaked.
Usually for the sake of misleading and cheating people that knows lesser, I'll always take photos from a new air cond that I want to praise and take old photos from the old air cond that I want to condemn.
At least with those photos, you are being fished

How long you want the AC to last now days... if it lasted 5 years good already... if it lasted 10 years wow!!! like National Brand hahaha

if it last 20 years.... er.........