Maybe arrest wasn't the right word to use because you're right, not paying bills isn't a criminal offense... well, not until they officially declare him a bankrupt and a fugitive of the court. So... detain, most probably.

But I wouldn't put it past Singapore to 'detain' people for 'further action', especially if a police report has been made by the creditors. I mean, this is a country that 'detains' you for not paying your TV license, downloading MP3s, piggybacking your neighbour's wifi, forgetting to pay parking fines etc. Having said that, I could just be paranoid. But then again, who would have thought, not so long ago, that you could be arrested (with handcuffs and sh1t) for simply logging on to an unsecured wifi connection in a public area?

i hv juz got a job in singapore n joining u all in the working life in singapore~~
hehe...quite excited~~
juz got room ther...
now waiting to start work n also do the other stuff..
got some problem deciding phone lines n broadband...any kind soul out ther can giv some advice??
i got bit confused wit all those plans n also value added stuff
wat are all those?

is singapore a very competitive and fast moving place ??
this is how singapore looks to me..
i never been to sg before... sorry for my noobness..

for me its ok, not really that 'fast'. i think HK is much 'faster'.

btw to any basketball kaki here... this saturday i wil join some dudes from other forum @ Tg Pagar. any1 interested ?

i'm a bball kaki
but will onli b ther dis weekend
n duno wher is tg pagar yet
hahahaha
new to singapore

Hmm Maybe i should just pay those Freaking Blood suckers... I dont think i can skip this meeting but i dont know wether i will be able to make it pass their custom. Beside the amount i owe them should be very minimal.. A few hundred bucks at most. But you know how Singaporean's are.. They have plain cloths police to monitor smokers.. They fine you for jay walking... I just dont wan to make a scene during the trip because i will be travelling with a few high level executive from my company... God damn it... how am i gonna get out of this mess

go down earlier lo c c really will kena o not kena ma pay lo then on the real trip ma pass lo

for mobile, it depends on your area.
if it's near to the town then you can choose which telco you like(singtel, starhub or m1 with the best package)
for your info starhub signal strength is poor for some area like tunnel or lift.

as for broadband, recommend you to get singtel or starhub wireless broadband(trouble free if shift to other house).
avoid m1 at all cost, their bandwith and coverage s*** big time.

you should ask all the details before signing the contract.

I don't think you can access to sg anymore before settle the debts.
it's better go down earlier to clear those problem first otherwise you might be in big trouble on the meeting day.

"detain" ? depends lah.. not paying TV licence, parking fines, do not deem for such action. TV licence, you get warning letter, than cut off if don't pay or pay penalty. As reported some lower income people didn't pay for months to few years despite warning and penalty... I kanna TV warning before before. Parking fines, all pile up unless you got traffic summon... not sure whether you get any, Sorry, I don't drive and have no licence too.
yes, logging onto someone's else line is indeed an offence as they claimed, cheaping and not paying due to who ever the due should be. Anyway, unless someone complain about you.. chances are, nothing will happen. Just that the company would want to warn all who like to ride on for free.

Downloading MP3.. yes, especially on SGTel, beware because they can trace to your line. I am using Starhub and have avoided downloading, but still occasionally download. My colleague told me, its hard for Starhub to pinpoint as its some what kind of a cluster.. I don't understand those term. Anyway, there are loop holes, you still can download including movies.... I did that before, but.. don't want to try again, except for chinese MP3 songs occasionally.

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Added on August 5, 2008, 9:24 pmHey, don't be that pessimistic lah... not as bad as you think, you may be fine, but not huge amount. Nothing much to loose afterall, you said its only mere hundres $. There is no plain cloth police, those are environmental officer going round checking on certain areas assigned, they can only issue fines, but no authority to arrest anyone, only the police can. In fact, I heard many in my days in NS in early 80s, but somehow find it strange as most of these happened to certain area. However, I am not saying it won't happen....

Hardly anyone being fine for Jay walking now (although there are, but fewer as reported), maybe you too unlucky to be caught... just too bad. . I still see people jay walking, but so far not seen any one being booked. In fact, in SG, cycling on footpath is illegal and carrys a fine by traffic police law. To date, only one person had been charged and even then, that person had complained to the press and forum, even to MP why only him and not others as there are easily many who do so. I had done so for ~9 yrs, even right in front of police car. Once, a traffic police officer stopped me even though I was cycling on footpath, but instead of booking me, he asked me to come down and walk my bicycle across the traffic light as they would advice cyclists to do. The SG of the old mindset, impose fine, fees, whatever, things work.. give free stuff, no body wants, free stuff = cheap skate... SUCHs mentality of us... but this is somewhat changing too, but then... never say never... it can still happen

This post has been edited by bbmars: Aug 5 2008, 09:31 PM

thks a lot~~
i'm staying in toa payoh..i tink is quite near to the city so meaning i can choose either of the packages lo~~
but juz to check wit u all who are there...which package best if my intention is to make calls bc to malaysia more??

I'm also a Bball kaki.. but i'll be away this weekend... Do you play every weekend? Let me know...

err, can someone tell me whether it is safe to torrent with the Singtel's BBOM or not? I download like 2 anime episodes (~500MB) every week. This is my first month la, so please tell me if it is unsafe to do so. Will it get me into trouble?

haha welcome to sg. after u settled down lets join.

actually this will b my 1st time play bball here in sg, joining a gang from another forum.

whenever got play in future i'll inform here.

you have go to SG already? or still in setapak?

Is it safe to dropoff at puduraya?

All the while i only take aeroline bus and dropoff at 1U and Sunway pyramid. But this time aeroline fully booked, so i have to take other alternative to go back malaysia.

Only concern is i will be going back at 7pm and will reach puduraya around 12 midnite, so is it advisable not to bring too much money back ?

working in Singapore is very competitive...

studying in Singapore is tiring...everybody study so hard to be the top student...

employer in singapore like to emphasize on productivity.

they also hire master degree to do degree work, and claim that they have the best talent.
that's why they need a lot of master degree ppl
and degree ppl from malaysia, usually can outperform those master degree ppl.

Firstly, there was a previous case (still ongoing) of people being prosecuted for downloading manga. Others can provide more details perhaps.

And secondly, any legal action taken for downloaded content, can ONLY occur if there is SOMEONE who (has legal standing to) complain. Therefore, any action must be initiated by the owner (media, movie/music or software company), or their biz association, distributors, dealers or agent, of that content.

Therefore, it is only safe to download IF you are downloading something that NOBODY (has legal standing to) complain about. This means find something that has no owner, distributor, dealer or agent in the country, to download.

This post has been edited by seantang: Aug 6 2008, 12:57 PM

importantly do u have transport back to ur home from puduraya?

if take taxi from puduraya in the midnight, expected kena chop (try to bargain) or lucky got meter taxi with 50% surcharge.

it's safe, but when you drop off, give your middle finger to those blood sucking taxi driver that is trying to pull your hand to sit on their car (optional, but you'll really tu9lan those f*** desperate trying to lure you into their scam)

try to walk away from the main puduraya towards the chinese maternity hospital there to take passing by taxis, those normally will kira meter 1.

about the money thing, do not act nervous or as if like you bring 10k sgd back to malaysia. actl ike normal, wear sloppy even better, slippers.