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hsyong
post Mar 12 2020, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Mar 12 2020, 07:09 AM)
Any one would do, as it is for verification.

Within PMO, you will see all the funds and their account numbers, and the total value of your portfolio of funds.
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Completed registration for PMO. Thank you!

My current funds are bought through agent. My plan for the future is to do all the transactions (top up/buy new fund/switching etc) without going through my agent. That's possible right?

This post has been edited by hsyong: Mar 12 2020, 10:14 AM
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post Mar 12 2020, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(hsyong @ Mar 12 2020, 10:13 AM)
Completed registration for PMO. Thank you!

My current funds are bought through agent. My plan for the future is to do all the transactions (top up/buy new fund/switching etc) without going through my agent. That's possible right?
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I think can do without going thru agent with PMO,....
but I am not sure if you can save the Sales charges even without going thru the agent.
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post Mar 12 2020, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 12 2020, 10:18 AM)
I think can do without going thru agent with PMO,....
but I am not sure if you can save the Sales charges even without going thru the agent.
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Thank you!

Yes, I understand about the Sales Charge. My plan is to have control of my account, that's all. In the past, everything was left to the agent and I only look at the letter/statement sent by PM every few months.

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post Mar 12 2020, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(hsyong @ Mar 12 2020, 10:40 AM)
Thank you!

Yes, I understand about the Sales Charge. My plan is to have control of my account, that's all. In the past, everything was left to the agent and I only look at the letter/statement sent by PM every few months.
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thumbup.gif it allows unitholders to make investment and transaction requests (including redemption and switching), and enquire on account balances, transactions and statements.
you are in the driver's seat... thumbsup.gif
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post Mar 12 2020, 01:09 PM

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PMO has been upgraded since 1 or 2 years ago.

It now shows the allocation of the portfolio in a pie chart, showing the proportions of equity, bond, and money-market/income funds.

The Fund Analytics tab has more info on all funds. In its fund performance chart, several funds can be selected for comparison.


If not mistaken, purchases via PMO have slightly lower service charge... very, very slightly... 5.25% for equity funds and 0.75% for bond funds.

The alternate method to get lower service charge is using EPF i-invest, if you have excess money in account 1... the service charge is 0.5% for equity funds.





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post Mar 12 2020, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Mar 12 2020, 01:09 PM)
PMO has been upgraded since 1 or 2 years ago.

It now shows the allocation of the portfolio in a pie chart, showing the proportions of equity, bond, and money-market/income funds.

The Fund Analytics tab has more info on all funds. In its fund performance chart, several funds can be selected for comparison.
If not mistaken, purchases via PMO have slightly lower service charge... very, very slightly... 5.25% for equity funds and 0.75% for bond funds.

The alternate method to get lower service charge is using EPF i-invest, if you have excess money in account 1... the service charge is 0.5% for equity funds.
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post Mar 12 2020, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(hsyong @ Mar 12 2020, 11:13 AM)
Completed registration for PMO. Thank you!

My current funds are bought through agent. My plan for the future is to do all the transactions (top up/buy new fund/switching etc) without going through my agent. That's possible right?
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Each time you buy new fund, you can select your agent in PMO. However if you select none then the 5.25% sales commission will not go to your agent. So you can decide whether or not to let your agent earn, or for some ppl maybe they get back part of the sales charges from the agent.

This post has been edited by YoungMan: Mar 12 2020, 02:09 PM
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post Mar 12 2020, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Mar 12 2020, 02:06 PM)
Each time you buy new fund, you can select your agent in PMO. However if you select none then the 5.25% sales commission will not go to your agent. So you can decide whether or not to let your agent earn, or for some ppl maybe they get back part of the sales charges from the agent.
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Oh, that's convenient. I didn't know that. Thank you.
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post Mar 12 2020, 09:54 PM

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Question.. if i sell my fund today before 2pm and its a global fund, will tonights market drop be included in calculation?
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post Mar 12 2020, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(labamba @ Mar 12 2020, 09:54 PM)
Question.. if i sell my fund today before 2pm and its a global fund, will tonights market drop be included in calculation?
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Yes. Global funds have Europe and U.S. equities. The price will reflect the closing markets later at night and early morning.

Dow index is about -8% tonight, I guess Global fund will drop about 7-8% when the price is updated tomorrow noon.


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post Mar 12 2020, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Mar 12 2020, 11:15 PM)
Yes. Global funds have Europe and U.S. equities. The price will reflect the closing markets later at night and early morning.

Dow index is about -8% tonight, I guess Global fund will drop about 7-8% when the price is updated tomorrow noon.
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Ouch.. thanks for the confirmation.
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post Mar 13 2020, 03:49 PM

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EPF as part of retirement portfolio.

- Dividend is paid till age 100.
- Full withdrawal can be done any time after age 55.
- Contributions made after age 55 can be withdrawn at age 60.
- No limits on withdrawal in a month/year, on both the amount and frequency
- Nomination(s) can be easily and conveniently changed upon your request.
- Withdrawal transaction is quick and easy, transferred into your bank account within 3/4 working days.
- You can place a standing instruction to withdraw the yearly dividend automatically every year.


Above is what I posted and shared in a post on Feb. 26 last year.

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My journey so far…

I started the journey blind with very little knowledge on unit trust funds. In other words, I got suckered into Public Mutual. LOL biggrin.gif

Made all the mistakes one could possibly make. At one time, the portfolio was at negative 60%. This woke me up.

My main goal was building a portfolio of unit trusts to compliment the retirement fund in EPF. Thus have to persevere and put extra efforts to achieve the goal.

So, to turn around the portfolio, I have tried this and that, push it around from one asset class to another, switch here, switch there, sometimes lucky, sometimes not.

Over the years, I have rollover (total switching in/out) RM2 million and more!

Passed a significant milestone in 2016, lost it in 2018, and regained it last year. Maybe I was becoming wiser over the years, or becoming less greedy for more, the portfolio was slowly switched to nearly 100% bond funds by the end of December, 2019.

At the moment, equity is 3% of the portfolio.

So, had I foreseen this massive market sell-off happening now?

No, lah. The asset allocation was accordingly to my internal financial plan and nothing to do with external market noise. The journey is at the last stage, and the re-balancing was done as planned.

Cheers.

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Rebalancing the asset allocation… this was posted and shared on Oct. 12, 2018, "What is the proper Asset Allocation for a Unit Trust Investor?"
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hsyong
post Mar 13 2020, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Mar 13 2020, 03:49 PM)

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Passed a significant milestone in 2016, lost it in 2018, and regained it last year. Maybe I was becoming wiser over the years, or becoming less greedy for more, the portfolio was slowly switched to nearly 100% bond funds by the end of December, 2019.

At the moment, equity is 3% of the portfolio.

So, had I foreseen this massive market sell-off happening now?

No, lah. The asset allocation was accordingly to my internal financial plan and nothing to do with external market noise. The journey is at the last stage, and the re-balancing was done as planned.

Cheers.

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I recently switched a large portion of my portfolio to a bond fund. Also, I have another big sum that I want to put in. Since I'm retiring in about 5 or 6 years, it's better to put the sum in bonds until I retire? (yes, I'm okay with lower returns, I prefer low risk and volatility).

What's your suggestion? Put in one bond fund, or separate into a couple of bond funds? Or mixed with other funds?

Thanks.
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post Mar 14 2020, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(hsyong @ Mar 13 2020, 10:41 PM)
I recently switched a large portion of my portfolio to a bond fund. Also, I have another big sum that I want to put in. Since I'm retiring in about 5 or 6 years, it's better to put the sum in bonds until I retire? (yes, I'm okay with lower returns, I prefer low risk and volatility).

What's your suggestion? Put in one bond fund, or separate into a couple of bond funds? Or mixed with other funds?

Thanks.
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In my opinion just put into 1 bond fund, only when there is opportunity then take about 30% to grow it. Bond will have negative yield after a long term when market turn to opportunity due to inside the demand and supply in market. But average up still stay around Close to 5% plus a little bit.
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post Mar 14 2020, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(tkwfriend @ Mar 14 2020, 08:16 AM)
In my opinion just put into 1 bond fund, only when there is opportunity then take about 30% to grow it. Bond will have negative yield after a long term when market turn to opportunity due to inside the demand and supply in market. But average up still stay around  Close to 5% plus a little bit.
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post Mar 14 2020, 12:07 PM

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posted on wrong thread.

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post Mar 14 2020, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 14 2020, 12:07 PM)
Just moved RM 6,000.00 from Bond to China fund today. Deploying some fixed income to riskier assets to buy on dips.

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this RM6000 could just be 0.001% of your total investable money thou tongue.gif
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post Mar 14 2020, 06:16 PM

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Very insightful. May I know how old you are? I'm in my early 30's and this market really gives me the jitters and I don't like losing money. Even financial samurai doesn't like it either: https://www.financialsamurai.com/risk-toler...ult-to-measure/
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post Mar 14 2020, 09:43 PM

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[quote=j.passing.by,Mar 13 2020, 03:49 PM]
EPF as part of retirement portfolio.

- Dividend is paid till age 100.
- Full withdrawal can be done any time after age 55.
- Contributions made after age 55 can be withdrawn at age 60.
- No limits on withdrawal in a month/year, on both the amount and frequency
- Nomination(s) can be easily and conveniently changed upon your request.
- Withdrawal transaction is quick and easy, transferred into your bank account within 3/4 working days.
- You can place a standing instruction to withdraw the yearly dividend automatically every year.


Above is what I posted and shared in a post on Feb. 26 last year.

=========

My journey so far…

I started the journey blind with very little knowledge on unit trust funds. In other words, I got suckered into Public Mutual. LOL biggrin.gif

Made all the mistakes one could possibly make. At one time, the portfolio was at negative 60%. This woke me up.

My main goal was building a portfolio of unit trusts to compliment the retirement fund in EPF. Thus have to persevere and put extra efforts to achieve the goal.

So, to turn around the portfolio, I have tried this and that, push it around from one asset class to another, switch here, switch there, sometimes lucky, sometimes not.

Over the years, I have rollover (total switching in/out) RM2 million and more!

Passed a significant milestone in 2016, lost it in 2018, and regained it last year. Maybe I was becoming wiser over the years, or becoming less greedy for more, the portfolio was slowly switched to nearly 100% bond funds by the end of December, 2019.

At the moment, equity is 3% of the portfolio.

So, had I foreseen this massive market sell-off happening now?

No, lah. The asset allocation was accordingly to my internal financial plan and nothing to do with external market noise. The journey is at the last stage, and the re-balancing was done as planned.

Cheers.

=========

Rebalancing the asset allocation… this was posted and shared on Oct. 12, 2018, "What is the proper Asset Allocation for a Unit Trust Investor?"
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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For EPF... say one has 100k at age 55 but never withdraw.. then at age 56, put in another 50k... but the next month suddenly wants to withdraw all 150k.. can?

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post Mar 15 2020, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Mar 14 2020, 09:43 PM)
For EPF... say one has 100k at age 55 but never withdraw.. then at age 56, put in another 50k... but the next month suddenly wants to withdraw all 150k.. can?
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You will need to confirm this with EPF but what happens at age 55 is that:
- Account 1 and Account 2 will be combined into a new account, Account 55.
- Another account will also be created to accept contributions from members who are still working. Withdrawal from this new account is only at age 60.

The contributions from both employer and employee has tax implications. Employer's contribution - non taxable income. Employee's contribution - tax relief. There will be a tax loophole if members over age 55 are allowed to immediately withdraw the contributions done after age 55.



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