Rapidshare limiting model
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 Oct 29 2006, 03:49 AM
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Why is TMnet making the problem worse by upgrading everyone to faster connections then? Wouldn't a slower connection put less strain on the obviously maxed out International connection?
Right now I would prefer a slower connection with good QOS. This post has been edited by morphware: Oct 29 2006, 03:49 AM |
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Oct 29 2006, 04:00 AM
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QUOTE(morphware @ Oct 29 2006, 03:49 AM) Why is TMnet making the problem worse by upgrading everyone to faster connections then? Wouldn't a slower connection put less strain on the obviously maxed out International connection? Precisely. I do not condone what TM Net is doing. They're signing up people on the assumption that their gateway upgrade will solve all these bandwidth problems. In the meantime, they throttle us. Right now I would prefer a slower connection with good QOS.   This is an act that I disagree with, but it is something that they can get away with.You're beginning to understand the concept. As it is, with our current gateway, we can either have slower speeds for unlimited downloads to maintain QoS, or we can limit how much we donwload in a day and have the full speed of what we pay for. This is what I believe. I would choose the latter option, as I have previously mentioned, since that is scalable with higher downloads speeds. |
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Oct 29 2006, 04:27 AM
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+Newbie+ , well put.
Just more evidence about my "de-prioritization theory" Keep in mind most of us are getting 160KB/s on our HTTP downloads, so in theory, our torrents can hit that speed too. But because of BT having a lower priority or less % allocation of total TM international bandwidth, our peers can't touch the full potential. Still its a big leap from totally banning International peers. Good job, TM! This is 5am, so when people start to wake up, my speeds will temporarily fall. [7:15 a.m. edit] Just making sure... This post has been edited by excit3: Oct 29 2006, 07:40 AM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Oct 29 2006, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE(excit3 @ Oct 29 2006, 04:27 AM) Keep in mind most of us are getting 160KB/s on our HTTP downloads, so in theory, our torrents can hit that speed too. agree with this. even with good local peer , BT can reach ( >120k). I am not good/ understanding at those theory or calculation very well, which you stated at 1st post. I hope there will be a good solution for this issue. may be, price quota will solve it. i hope so. I can pay more for BT ( but not too much) with 2G/day, RM88. This post has been edited by work_tgr: Oct 29 2006, 07:20 AM |
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Oct 29 2006, 08:28 AM
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For the last 8 years, I've rarely enjoyed the published transfer speed of Streamyx. So until I do, and consistently so, will I even consider anything less than unlimited transfers.
This kind of service quality is totally unacceptable in some countries but we Malaysians are a tolerent lot. Tolerence though has a limit. Now, what guarantees do we have that the service will improve? None. 11% using 80% bandwidth? I would suggest weeding out technicians on the take in exchange for uncapping, if those rumours are to be trusted. Knowing the culture, I actually find some truth in them. Bottomline, TM-Net delivers what they promised initially, then we can negotiate. At this point, its more like a "take-it-or-leave-it" thing. Do we all need to live with all this incompetency? |
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Oct 29 2006, 08:37 AM
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Oct 29 2006, 12:51 AM) I just could not imagine how developed of Malaysia's bistari school to train out such clever student --- 20 year old kid studying at Taylors Business School, Subang Jaya ?? Play nice. Anymore personal attacks from you and I'll send you out of here. |
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Oct 29 2006, 09:24 AM
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oopss... wouldn't talk much here anymore.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- off topic here .....I don't mean to "personal attack". Sorry  , if thread starter or admin think it this way.I really don't think a 20-year-old boy can be such informative/knowledgeable ( truely no harmful/ hidden meaning/ personal attack). I am 17-year-old secondary school student ( examination result always no.1 from the bottom )This post has been edited by work_tgr: Oct 29 2006, 09:37 AM |
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Oct 29 2006, 10:21 AM
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why cant a 20yr old be so informative?
with the internet boom, i feel that more kids (13-22 age group) are more knowledgeable, compared to those born during the 7x years. |
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Oct 29 2006, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(slash @ Oct 29 2006, 10:21 AM) why cant a 20yr old be so informative? don't discuss anymore about this off topic. I don't understand a 20-year-old boy thinking with my 17-year-old brain (maybe because of my stupidity). Forgive an under-aged boy talk. ok ??with the internet boom, i feel that more kids (13-22 age group) are more knowledgeable, compared to those born during the 7x years. This post has been edited by work_tgr: Oct 29 2006, 10:32 AM |
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Oct 29 2006, 12:13 PM
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I sense a good idea from threadstarter, this is what so -called "middle-way" approach, instead of demanding tmnet on expanding their international bandwidth, which in turns would transfer the costs to end user.
The TS' suggestion is the effective effort to solve the bandwidth scarcity problem for the time before TMnut could afford greater bandwidth. But the price per bandwidth can be negotiated and revised  btw, de-priortizing BT = throttle, as according to most LYNians definition  So between these 2 terms, it can be used interchangebly in LYNThis post has been edited by dattebayo: Oct 29 2006, 12:20 PM |
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Oct 29 2006, 12:29 PM
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actually is somehow the same,
like u get 2GB of 4MB perday.....(RM88) after finish 2gb dl speed will be back as normal........like the 88 1MB plan...just a little benefit |
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Oct 29 2006, 12:38 PM
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I notice they were prioritizing BT too cause I was downloading a 2 GB file (40% done) @ 10kb/s and when I woke up it was downloading at 100+ kb/s ! The speed fell sharply before 7am though.
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Oct 29 2006, 02:01 PM
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< 1,000 MB (200 mp3 files)
< 5,000 MB (1000 mp3 files) < 10,000 MB (2000 mp3 files) > 10,000 MB (>2000 mp3 files) Download only or DL & UP total bandwith ? Here is my daily download rate : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by Suk: Oct 29 2006, 02:09 PM |
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Oct 29 2006, 02:15 PM
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question here, do we need to pay extra to get those plan? or our account direct convert to those plan.
for an example my one 1m RM77 iz direct convert to Mid plan RM88?????? i think this issue need to concern |
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Oct 29 2006, 02:18 PM
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i think he suggest only
accept or not accept is still base on TMnut lo. If they really capped the bandwidth to 4MB i think there will be more frequent DC problem due to low/old quality phone cable plus nowaday copper is very expensive. Edit : + they need to hire programmer to create a connection rate program ( DU Meter ) Bill - Need to print out how many data download per month ( cost increase ) Server Hardware or software - to monitor every users download bandwidth. ( cost increase ) Increase the Download rate - May result to frequent DC - cause More complaints, Helpline Traffic - HIGH, Technician more job to do, problem solving may need to spend more days correct me if wrong. dont shoot me This post has been edited by Suk: Oct 29 2006, 02:35 PM |
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Oct 29 2006, 02:23 PM
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hey, Suk. can you tell me how to get that DU meter report ? R you using any software for that ? Thanks.
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Oct 29 2006, 02:31 PM
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DU Meter > TOTAL > Daily Report > Export > to excel or text file
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Oct 29 2006, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(Suk @ Oct 29 2006, 02:31 PM) DU Meter > TOTAL > Daily Report > Export > to excel or text file Is DU meter an add-on software to BT client ? |
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Oct 29 2006, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(Suk @ Oct 29 2006, 02:18 PM) i think he suggest only Well, implementation by TM Net is still a big question mark. Of course, if TM Net were to suddenly decide on such a plan, they would be obligated to provide a higher level of Quality of Service compared to previously.accept or not accept is still base on TMnut lo. If they really capped the bandwidth to 4MB i think there will be more frequent DC problem due to low/old quality phone cable plus nowaday copper is very expensive. Edit : + they need to hire programmer to create a connection rate program ( DU Meter ) Bill - Need to print out how many data download per month ( cost increase ) Server Hardware or software - to monitor every users download bandwidth. ( cost increase ) Increase the Download rate - May result to frequent DC - cause More complaints, Helpline Traffic - HIGH, Technician more job to do, problem solving may need to spend more days correct me if wrong. dont shoot me As things stand right now, you're right. We don't even know if TM Net will consider such a plan and there are obviously many things to consider for implementation. This post has been edited by +Newbie+: Oct 29 2006, 02:40 PM |
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Oct 29 2006, 02:46 PM
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Heck if they do come up with something like that, I wont mind spending a little bit more just for a steady 4Mb d/l with limited bandwidth. Plus, lets say I pause my download for the day and continue on the next day. But hey, its 4Mb download speeds.
Better than the speeds we get now.... *cough*512kb*cough* |
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