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drummerboy
post Nov 10 2006, 12:33 AM

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I tested my usage...So far this capping thing might work for me because i m not downloading anything nowadays
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post Nov 13 2006, 09:40 PM

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When the thread starter Compare Tmnet With Australia, Why don't we compare with UK. 8 mbps without data capped and it's unlimited. Only 17 Pound a month. What I'm Going to say is i totally disagree with data capped or bandwitdth capped since not everyday i download huge file and not everyday i play online game. I use it in moderate way but 30/24/7. Fast.co.uk

And I Just Saw a torrent file that have 120 GB and above in single file. For me, I will limit my bandwitdth so i can do anything else since waiting for the file to be completed download will be boring.


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post Nov 13 2006, 10:32 PM

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Man...Streamyx is slower than a snail nowadays..what's wrong man???
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post Nov 13 2006, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(takercena @ Nov 13 2006, 09:40 PM)
When the thread starter Compare Tmnet With Australia, Why don't we compare with UK. 8 mbps without data capped and it's unlimited. Only 17 Pound a month. What I'm Going to say is i totally disagree with data capped or bandwitdth capped since not everyday i download huge file and not everyday i play online game. I use it in moderate way but 30/24/7. Fast.co.uk

And I Just Saw a torrent file that have 120 GB and above in single file. For me, I will limit my bandwitdth so i can do anything else since waiting for the file to be completed download will be boring.
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Availability of bandwidth to each country differs. e.g. It is cheaper to bring bandwidth to Japan because it is the gateway. It is more expensive to bring bandwidth to Malaysia because we are miles away from the nearest gateway, e.g. Japan.

We have to also look at the rate of increase in demand. If demand is inceasing at a faster rate, e.g. market is unsaturated, it will be harder to cope with constantly upgrading the network and vice versa.

I'm not trying to defend TM Net here. They're doing a horrible job as it is. I'm just saying sometimes the realities of the situation demand that we compromise. If in the future when we have a more stable and manageable growth in demand for bandwidth, e.g. market is saturated, perhaps we can start to consider having unlimited access again. As for now, we're far from that.

If you actually download as little as you claim yourself to be, then why are you worried in the first place? You would be the last person on earth to be affected since this only affects the most heavy downloaders.

And what kind of sick file is 120 Gigs anyway? biggrin.gif


QUOTE(drummerboy @ Nov 13 2006, 10:32 PM)
Man...Streamyx is slower than a snail nowadays..what's wrong man???
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Yeah man. It's really pissing me off too.
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post Nov 14 2006, 11:42 AM

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Now todays it's back to normal again... smile.gif
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post Nov 14 2006, 01:24 PM

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If you actually download as little as you claim yourself to be, then why are you worried in the first place? You would be the last person on earth to be affected since this only affects the most heavy downloaders.

And what kind of sick file is 120 Gigs anyway? biggrin.gif


It's not like that. I'm also heavy downloader too. But I don't think everyday You download huge file right. If Tmnet want to cap i.e 5gb a day, It would be hard for me to fulfill the cap because I pay for it.

This post has been edited by takercena: Nov 14 2006, 01:27 PM
drummerboy
post Nov 15 2006, 10:40 PM

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Thsi plan must not work
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post Nov 25 2006, 12:40 AM

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I think it is not fair to capped us. In Australia, even they capped, the speed is still acceptable and mantain at 512kpbs if yor plan is 1.5 Mbps.

But for Streamyx, they capped us until the speed of Internet reached the lower speed as dial-up connection. Streamyx has breached 256kbps miminum speed set by the MCMC (Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission) under Communications and Multimedia Act 1998 Commission Determination of the Mandatory Standards for Quality of Service.

In Sarawak is the worst state effected by the capped to the extend the web browsing to international site just stop. I was only able to chat using yahoo chatting with my friends in Kuching but unable to surf. My DU Meter shows me 5 kB of download. The newsletter (Streamyx Capped) that published in Lowyat is soo untrue stating your internet speed will be capped up to three times the modem speed. It is lower than a normal dialup account.

In Australia, there is alot of Broadband Companies (More than 20). One company offer a 20Mbps internet speed at cheaper price for unlimited use. The customer will be capped down to 10Mbps during peak hours. If the ISP does break the law by giving slow internet speed, the company is easily been fine since there is Internet and Broadband Commision in Australia. The law are strict than in Malaysia.

Technology should be faster and cheaper but not slower and expensive. I thought our technology suppose to move foward to the future but it seems we left behind as other countries has already offer high speed internet (up to 20Mbps) with a cheaper price. In Brunei, the speed has already reached 50Mbps, whcih offered by new ISP company at a affordable price.

If Streamyx want to capped us, well just do it the right way. Learn from other countries for good sake.
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post Nov 25 2006, 12:47 AM

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Australia has new advances in Broadband services such as download DVD from internet at great speed, while your internet plan are getting cheaper. We are going more backward than ever before.
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post Dec 26 2006, 06:21 PM

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Australia have much expensive internet bandwidth because it's a island seperated from the mainland at a distance... Compare to us which is still in the mainland.

However i cant seems to find the source where i read this and it might be wrong
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post Jan 30 2007, 10:43 AM

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huh? what mean?
Lite plan - 500 MB / day (Equivalent to 100 mp3 files at 5 MB each) - RM 44 <<<<download 500MB a day cost RM44?
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post Jan 30 2007, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(dragna @ Oct 25 2006, 12:28 PM)
As for me i'd go with something like this

1500 MB / day - RM 44/month
5000 MB / day - RM 66/month
10000 MB / day - RM 88/month
25000 MB / day - RM 128/month
45000 MB / day - RM 188/month
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hey dragnar, this is actually a good plan for 4mbit, but lemme fix some things.

Done.

This makes a lot of sense because a 1 mbit line can download about 10GB~ on average. Including overhead and everything else. Note that this is still below the full bandwidth capabilities(if it were symmetrical or assymetrical. Also we're discussing 4mbit) and lets now assume that this is a bandwidth cap, not a download/upload cap. It covers both grounds.

A 45GB cap will be useful because you have added support for for overhead and you can "technically" full utilize your line. Recommended for heavy users who run ftp servers, http servers, mailer daemons/etc

For the light users they'll have something as well as long as the capping is done in a way similar to Australia's, such as 512Kbit capping. It wouldn't be too prudent as we are aiming for an IT-society. this results in 24/7 uptime(aside from maintenance downtime) and thus users are treated to availability(almost) all the time.

The only problem left is reliability...

[Note: If we wanted QoS, we could implement it on our own with routers like the wrt54gl(you don't even need ddwrt for QoS, just that its support is not that good...? Didn't use it for long anyway though I wish we could do such things with newer chipsets like the Atheros based ones, they say that the Atheros based ones are more powerful and whatnot, but lets not detract ourselves the point).]

Again, this is suitable not only for heavy downloads, but for uploaders too.
I used to run an ftp server to share multimedia assignments and the such, it was a very good implementation of things and easy to utilize.

I'd personally pay roughly RM300-400 if I can get a symmetrical 4mbit line.

Although I'd rather have more scaled... bandwidth limits...
Scaled to cater the symmetrical crew, that is.

Something like... 75-90GB/day limit? RM450/month?
Sounds interesting.

And for those saying pay RM12k or so, my reply is as such: why should I? when people in Europe are getting that much and running such services and heavily downloading and NOT EVEN SATURATING THEIR CONNECTION why can't we have the same? Its not like I'm running a business line and require 24/7 support? I'd still have to wait on them if anything goes wrong. AND EVERYONE PRETTY MUCH KNOWS WHAT A NIGHTMARE THAT IS. Talking to them on the phone, waiting on them, etc.
No offense to helpdesk workers, but seriously, wtf is wrong with theirs?

As for TM making a profit? Good for them. As for me not getting the assured quality of services I am paying for, DOWN to them.

(if anyone complaining about TM making a profit just go run a non-profit organization from your coffers. I'd subscribe to your NPO ISP as long as you provide services better than TM. Such as the one mentioned above and discussed in this thread.)


To the rest of the thread: TL;DR. Going back to sleep now. Have fun, guys

This post has been edited by PSB: Jan 30 2007, 12:48 PM

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