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Serious Dear All : "I'm falling for my best friend.", Moral : Learn from my downfall

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post Nov 21 2010, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(sparda @ Nov 21 2010, 12:32 AM)
Personally what I do is I don't date inside my friend circle. Makes for less drama that way I find, and if I can't get the girl things are less awkward.
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Same here... so i ended up with one of my Bro's (actual Brother) Friend.

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Seen quite a few of 'in-circle-of-friends' couples and they dont look too pretty.
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post Nov 21 2010, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(peachie-momo @ Nov 21 2010, 01:06 AM)
So, Noob13 advice apply. It's just like what he write. You can see whether she/he is interested in you or not, if no, then you can act nothing happened and back to normal mode
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Why haven't people did it like in the movies?

Collaborate with friends a fake scenario where the guy's friends are approaching the girl and let the hero save the day, LOL.

Remember to ask your friends to wear masks, lest the girl can recognize them when you bring her out. laugh.gif

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post Nov 21 2010, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Nov 21 2010, 01:14 AM)
Why haven't people did it like in the movies?

Collaborate with friends a fake scenario where the guy's friends are approaching the girl and let the hero save the day, LOL.

Remember to ask your friends to wear masks, lest the girl can recognize them when you bring her out. laugh.gif
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um... because unlike in the movies, real life situations have more than one consequences...

i think its harder for guys when we fall for our friend... because girls tend to remember EVERY detail...
but again, dating friends is kinda hard... I've always wanted to, but never actually found the right 'friend'.
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post Nov 21 2010, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(peachie-momo @ Nov 21 2010, 01:06 AM)
So, Noob13 advice apply. It's just like what he write. You can see whether she/he is interested in you or not, if no, then you can act nothing happened and back to normal mode
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Hmmmm, but sometimes it's not as easy to tell as all that. Especially if one is not all that experienced. Like I used to fetch a girl back often so she thought I was interested in her and then asked my friend to pass her confession to me. Misunderstandings can happen see.

QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Nov 21 2010, 01:14 AM)
Why haven't people did it like in the movies?

Collaborate with friends a fake scenario where the guy's friends are approaching the girl and let the hero save the day, LOL.

Remember to ask your friends to wear masks, lest the girl can recognize them when you bring her out. laugh.gif
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HAHHAHAHAHAHAA I actually thought of that as well!
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post Nov 21 2010, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(sparda @ Nov 21 2010, 01:31 AM)
Hmmmm, but sometimes it's not as easy to tell as all that. Especially if one is not all that experienced. Like I used to fetch a girl back often so she thought I was interested in her and then asked my friend to pass her confession to me. Misunderstandings can happen see.
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shakehead.gif I think I misunderstand myself. The one I'm crushing did those too and I fall for him because of those acts doh.gif

This clearly shows he's just not interested in me doh.gif
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post Nov 21 2010, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(peachie-momo @ Nov 21 2010, 01:34 AM)
shakehead.gif I think I misunderstand myself. The one I'm crushing did those too and I fall for him because of those acts  doh.gif

This clearly shows he's just not interested in me  doh.gif
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you gotta differentiate. if some other guy picks you and he looks disappointed, then he likes you. if he looks relieved then sorry lo
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post Nov 21 2010, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(sparda @ Nov 21 2010, 01:51 AM)
you gotta differentiate. if some other guy picks you and he looks disappointed, then he likes you. if he looks relieved then sorry lo
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post Nov 21 2010, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(sparda @ Nov 21 2010, 01:51 AM)
you gotta differentiate. if some other guy picks you and he looks disappointed, then he likes you. if he looks relieved then sorry lo
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Ooookkkaaayyy~ There is another guy who picks me up some times, the one I'm crushing on will tease me with him doh.gif ask me to chase him sweat.gif and ask me to sharpen my driving skill so I can fetch the 'another' guy in future. wtf~

Then I just act dunno and say "Me and him IMPOSSIBLE!!!" then he'll go on asking why why why doh.gif whenever it's about that guy, he'll tease again and again grrr~

So what does this means?? Nothing right?? ridiculous right??

This post has been edited by peachie-momo: Nov 21 2010, 02:11 AM
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post Nov 21 2010, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(peachie-momo @ Nov 21 2010, 02:07 AM)
Ooookkkaaayyy~ There is another guy who picks me up some times, the one I'm crushing on will tease me with him  doh.gif ask to chase me  sweat.gif and ask me to sharpen my driving skill so I can fetch the 'another' guy in future. wtf~

Then I just act dunno and say "Me and him IMPOSSIBLE!!!" then he'll go on asking why why why  doh.gif

So what does this means?? Nothing right?? ridiculous right??
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here got two possibilities. 1 is he just likes to kacau u only, maybe he sees that you and the guy are suited in some way. the second possiblity is that he actually likes you but is not sure whether u feel the same way back or not, like justnow the post where u said that the girl sees that i like another girl so she says these kind of things to cover up. GUYS CAN ALSO DO THE SAME THING MA!
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post Nov 21 2010, 02:17 AM

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QUOTE(sparda @ Nov 21 2010, 02:13 AM)
here got two possibilities. 1 is he just likes to kacau u only, maybe he sees that you and the guy are suited in some way. the second possiblity is that he actually likes you but is not sure whether u feel the same way back or not, like justnow the post where u said that the girl sees that i like another girl so she says these kind of things to cover up. GUYS CAN ALSO DO THE SAME THING MA!
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1st possibilities: He said that because every time something HUGE bad things happened, it's always because me and that guy. Or whenever that guy bad mood, I'm always there then will kena fire sometimes sweat.gif

2nd possibilities: That's what my best girl friend said. sweat.gif But, shakehead.gif don't really give myself much hope. And, yeah. I like him but not making any move
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post Nov 21 2010, 02:21 AM

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QUOTE(peachie-momo @ Nov 21 2010, 02:17 AM)
1st possibilities: He said that because every time something HUGE bad things happened, it's always because me and that guy. Or whenever that guy bad mood, I'm always there then will kena fire sometimes  sweat.gif

2nd possibilities: That's what my best girl friend said.  sweat.gif But,  shakehead.gif don't really give myself much hope. And, yeah. I like him but not making any move
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no you gotta make your move or you will keep thinking back "if i had made that move then maybe i might be happily with him now". the thing is you have to make your move in a smart way. if you barge in like a pickup truck and tell him you like him, might be awkward if he doesnt feel the same way, though if he does its PROFIT on the spot.

what you gotta do is to subtly hint to him like saying "hey, i wanna go ____ (insert name of occasion) but nobody to be my date. if he acts shocked you can always say its a "friend date" cos the word "date" is really ambiguous nowadays
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post Nov 21 2010, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(sparda @ Nov 21 2010, 02:21 AM)
no you gotta make your move or you will keep thinking back "if i had made that move then maybe i might be happily with him now". the thing is you have to make your move in a smart way. if you barge in like a pickup truck and tell him you like him, might be awkward if he doesnt feel the same way, though if he does its PROFIT on the spot.

what you gotta do is to subtly hint to him like saying "hey, i wanna go ____ (insert name of occasion) but nobody to be my date. if he acts shocked you can always say its a "friend date" cos the word "date" is really ambiguous nowadays
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yup !!! before confessing, test the guy by giving out some hints... but make sure that you're smart enough to let him think that you have feeling toward him...

I miss something did ?? About someone said, "I don't confess but will make her fall for me"??... well, what if she already fall for you but don't know your feeling toward her??

from what I always believe in, if a girl confess and they guy say no... the relationship won't change much as the guy will think that they are still friends... but for girl (as I kena before), will change their attitude toward you 180 degree... first thing you'll get, "sorry but we are only friends, I think you have misunderstood"... then you'll get a lot of consoles from her, "don't worry David, you're a good guy and I'm sure you can find good girl who suit you"... then ultimately, you'll get this "I think we just stop contacting each other for awhile", or simply you'll start to feel that she's avoiding you...

based on the above, that's how I come out with "another girl" test... if you tell her that you just met a wonderful person... if she say, "wow !!! She must be very special right, very pretty right, got big boobs right" -----> in some sense, she's trying to encourage you to get the girl, if a girl likes you she won't just let the guy off like that...... if she replies, "wow!!! Why is she so special?? Really pretty to you ar??" ----> in some sense you can feel that she's trying to ask you to reconsider your decision... girls do that all the time and I'm sure I can't be wrong with this... wanna know a girl disagree or not when choosing a place to eat, look at her answer... if her answer is, "the food there nice, got a lot of things to eat", you can be sure that she wanna go there already... but if she say, "the food there nice meh?? got a lot things to eat meh??", you can feel that she's asking you to reconsider... so, I hope you can see the differences here...


Added on November 21, 2010, 9:51 am
QUOTE(peachie-momo @ Nov 21 2010, 02:07 AM)
Ooookkkaaayyy~ There is another guy who picks me up some times, the one I'm crushing on will tease me with him  doh.gif ask me to chase him  sweat.gif and ask me to sharpen my driving skill so I can fetch the 'another' guy in future. wtf~

Then I just act dunno and say "Me and him IMPOSSIBLE!!!" then he'll go on asking why why why  doh.gif whenever it's about that guy, he'll tease again and again grrr~

So what does this means?? Nothing right?? ridiculous right??
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for me, if a guy does that to you, he has no other intention that just be your friend... sorry girl, guess it's too straight forward... no one will give up their love to others without a proper fight... by saying this, he's encouraging you to get him...

This post has been edited by mouse_king: Nov 21 2010, 09:51 AM
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post Nov 21 2010, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(mouse_king @ Nov 21 2010, 09:49 AM)
for me, if a guy does that to you, he has no other intention that just be your friend... sorry girl, guess it's too straight forward... no one will give up their love to others without a proper fight... by saying this, he's encouraging you to get him...
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I'm not disagreeing your statements but that happened a few months ago sweat.gif but, that's what having in my mind too. Because of this, I'm reluctant to continue attracting him yawn.gif
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post Nov 22 2010, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(peachie-momo @ Nov 21 2010, 11:20 PM)
I'm not disagreeing your statements but that happened a few months ago  sweat.gif but, that's what having in my mind too. Because of this, I'm reluctant to continue attracting him  yawn.gif
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chill smile.gif... one thing that you need to understand... you don't have to change anything in order to change something... what I mean is, just be who you are toward him and at the same time do not constraint yourself with limited choices smile.gif...
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post Nov 22 2010, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(mouse_king @ Nov 22 2010, 12:59 AM)
chill smile.gif... one thing that you need to understand... you don't have to change anything in order to change something... what I mean is, just be who you are toward him and at the same time do not constraint yourself with limited choices smile.gif...
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Thank you very much. I understand what you mean and I'll follow the flows
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post Dec 24 2010, 11:16 AM

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alamak ts.. sorry for my bad words in kopitiam last night.
i donno you r serius.

ni aku nk cerita kisah aku. bukan nak amik hati ape2. betul2 ni.
i got in the same situation as you too while in secondary school.
to tell you the truth, this girl really really broke my heart. pawned all my Ex gfs.. whistling.gif

warning. karangan in the spoiler below.

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so, never ask your friend to become your gf. nak ngorat, ngorat jer. no need to become friends first.
This is my lesson.


How do i overcome this??
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i got into many relationships after that.
and about that apprentice girlfriend... i called her in 2009 and apologized for what i maki2 to her way back in 2004 i think..
5 years~.. i`m happy with my life now. my current relationship has been going on for almost 2 years. thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(altie @ Oct 23 2006, 05:57 PM)
Sigh. This is a difficult choice. But I can understand your feelings.

"A man who has not felt his heart lost to a woman, is not a man.. yet."
-Altie <-- hehe sorry, shameless plug. But I *did* come up with that myself.

Before you begin, you must understand the "battlefield". Know what you stand to gain and lose if you proceed further. What do you stand to gain? A girlfriend and possibly a life partner. What do you stand to lose? A dear friend and respect that has been built up for possibly a few years. Are you willing to make that sacrifice for the prize?

If you are, then read on.

Firstly, you must make your feelings known to her. Giving her a portrait of her sketched by you is but a hint. A glimmer of your total message. It's a good start, but now you proceed with the utmost confidence. Do not sway, do not stutter. Your next proclamation to her must be more forceful. But not to an extreme. If you're a movie buff, and you've watched "Kate and Leopold", you'll understand what I say next more fully. (If you have not, no matter, I shall make it as clear and concise as I can).

You've got to make your intentions known as clear as possible.

This is like a battle horn. So.. what exactly do you do? You ask her out for a drink. This should be fairly easy, you've known each other for a long time. You tell her:

"There's something I'd like to tell you. We've been friends for such a long time. I've gotten to know you very well and because of this friendship we've had, I'd like to get to know you better than that. What do you feel about that?"

Pause.

"Of course, if you do not feel the same way, we can still be good friends. I'm just asking for the chance for me to prove myself to you, that I can be relied on to take care of you.

The key is NOT to rush her. We're just opening a door here. We're not here to push her through the door. If she decides she likes your proposition, congratulations. If she decides that either you're not worth it, or that she's not ready to, then my friend, you have to be ready for the fall. I won't lie to you. It won't be pretty. It will be sad, it will be depressing, but GOD DAMN IT, get over it and just be her friend. That's all she wants now. Maybe.. in the future, she may take up your offer. Which depends on whether you're still available, which by then, will be HER loss.

I hope my insanely long post does not make you feel that this is impossible. Go for it. You don't even have to use any of my suggestions. A lot of this "love" business is played by ear. You improvise as you go along. Just make sure you enjoy the ride. It's not the end that counts, it's the ride.

Good luck, dude. thumbup.gif
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Bro, I like your statement there~
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QUOTE(jackwylde @ Dec 24 2010, 11:16 AM)
alamak ts.. sorry for my bad words in kopitiam last night.
i donno you r serius. 

ni aku nk cerita kisah aku. bukan nak amik hati ape2. betul2 ni.
i got in the same situation as you too while in secondary school.
to tell you the truth, this girl really really broke my heart. pawned all my Ex gfs.. whistling.gif 

warning. karangan in the spoiler below.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


so, never ask your friend to become your gf. nak ngorat, ngorat jer. no need to become friends first.
This is my lesson.
How do i overcome this??
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


i got into many relationships after that.
and about that apprentice girlfriend... i called her in 2009 and apologized for what i maki2 to her way back in 2004 i think..
5 years~.. i`m happy with my life now. my current relationship has been going on for almost 2 years. thumbup.gif
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Yup Im serious about it. Well congrats with ya life and good for you then..
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FUUUU I just read the whole 1 - 33 page of this legendary thread!
Just because I can feel you bro sad.gif
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post Sep 26 2011, 06:08 PM

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Man, I am in the same condition now. Though I have confessed to her, just that, I said, don't say anything. I actually treasure more of the friendship rather than the new feeling of love. Shea god listener and gives nice advice. We click together.

By being a couple I am afraid that I'd loose her if something goes bad. She's open minded about this. 3 guys have confessed to her, rejected, cause she said she's not ready for love yet. I'm the closest to her; most of her friend said so.

Then again I do from time to time, tell her "I love you.". It has double meaning though, love as a friend and love as a man. She loves me too she said, as a friend for now.

I think I am comfortable to what is going on now, just that sometimes, it feel hard since the feeling of wanting to be more than friends is boiling up... I think somewhere in my heart is still want more. Damn I am greedy.

Then again, I don't think I am ready to couple. Such conflict.

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