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 TMnet confirms they are throttling P2P, CEO staff admits to P2P throttling

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post Dec 5 2006, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(ben83 @ Dec 5 2006, 01:37 PM)
Why not put a huge asterisk right after the word 'Unlimited'
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because if they did that, everyone would know "unlimited" is not really unlimited and they are trying to cheat their customers.
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post Dec 7 2006, 11:02 AM

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i just came back from aussie, and i had my tmnet installed this morning. got the 1mbps package, but my modem's reading 512kb upstream, 256kb downstream. and my p2p's crawling at 8kbps!!! 80 smth seeders and 2 leechers. omg... btw i'm in sibu, sarawak.
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post Dec 7 2006, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(jienster @ Dec 7 2006, 11:02 AM)
i just came back from aussie, and i had my tmnet installed this morning. got the 1mbps package, but my modem's reading 512kb upstream, 256kb downstream. and my p2p's crawling at 8kbps!!! 80 smth seeders and 2 leechers. omg... btw i'm in sibu, sarawak.
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your line is not configured to 1Mbs yet. all new tmnut lines are set to 512K by default. you have to call those morons at tmnut to set your port to 1Mbs. As for P2P, it has been throttled to high heaven since September. if you signed up without knowing this, then tmnut did a good job of cheating you of your hard earned money.
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post Dec 7 2006, 11:41 AM

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Thank you nutty TMNUUT do the p2p throttling ....
but still people are donwload like crazy...
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post Dec 7 2006, 04:07 PM

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my fren juz subscribe to tmnut

and i am damm surprise that he get an ADSL 2+ billion modem/router
mayb the nuts really are going to implement or upgrade to a faster line in the future for tat IPTV thingy

but i wont put too much hope on the reliability of it laugh.gif
they can even giv us decent 1mb services doh.gif
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post Dec 7 2006, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(broken_string @ Dec 7 2006, 04:07 PM)
my fren juz subscribe to tmnut

and i am damm surprise that he get an ADSL 2+ billion modem/router
mayb the nuts really are going to implement  or upgrade to a faster line in the future for tat IPTV thingy

but i wont put too much hope on the reliability of it laugh.gif
they can even giv us decent 1mb services doh.gif
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If you dont know, IPTV is also a bandwidth hog like P2P.
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post Dec 8 2006, 10:11 AM

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what the =_= ..........
my speed up is 512kb and down is 1512kb
what is that
is it 1mb or 1.5mb ?? =_=
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post Dec 8 2006, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Dec 7 2006, 08:55 PM)
If you dont know, IPTV is also a bandwidth hog like P2P.
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i know la i am in the broadband field also tongue.gif
but if they are giving out adsl 2 modem mayb there is upgrade in the future mah

hopefully the price will be cheap tongue.gif
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post Dec 8 2006, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Dec 7 2006, 08:55 PM)
If you dont know, IPTV is also a bandwidth hog like P2P.
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that 1 they gonna set up the server locally. no need use their precious international bandwith
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post Dec 8 2006, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(Oblivion @ Nov 28 2006, 09:43 PM)
As far as P2P and BB is concerned, as some of the more learned users on this forum put it, even First World (and I use the term liberally) countries have a pay-as-you-download system, so why shoudn't we? We've been damned lucky these last few years and have gotten spoilt I guess.
Being from the "so-called" #1 First World country I can assure you; "unlimited" download means exactly that (and 99% of ISP's have an "unlimited" package). And anything short will have an ISP looking at "Civil Suits" (i.e. try capping, shaping, throttling an amerikan, oh boy. monetary gains for the winner; big gains). The key is to get out of this damn first world/third world "mindset". Are you "third world"? or better yet "what is the definition of third world"?... and further WHO created the definition of "third world". Bunch of bullshyte, really. Bottom line is the network is overloaded by users (TMNut incompetance); the network will continue to be over saturated as the CEO's are buying the latest Merc's and the CallCenter workers are struggling to get rm1500 a month. Fukers are greedy laaa... Need to cut the fat back; starting at the top. Re-enforce the infrastructure and bandwidth to meet the current/future demands. Since I've been here I've found a "first world" peoples trapped by a "third world" government. You'all have all the same benefits/problems that we have back home. Now we just need to overcome the mindset and some of these folks whom continue to live mentally in the past (my Umno brothers should be ashamed of themselves... not even going to go there)...
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QUOTE(lucky206 @ Dec 8 2006, 08:28 PM)
Being from the "so-called" #1 First World country I can assure you; "unlimited" download means exactly that (and 99% of ISP's have an "unlimited" package). And anything short will have an ISP looking at "Civil Suits" (i.e. try capping, shaping, throttling an amerikan, oh boy. monetary gains for the winner; big gains). The key is to get out of this damn first world/third world "mindset". Are you "third world"? or better yet "what is the definition of third world"?... and further WHO created the definition of "third world". Bunch of bullshyte, really. Bottom line is the network is overloaded by users (TMNut incompetance); the network will continue to be over saturated as the CEO's are buying the latest Merc's and the CallCenter workers are struggling to get rm1500 a month. Fukers are greedy laaa... Need to cut the fat back; starting at the top. Re-enforce the infrastructure and bandwidth to meet the current/future demands. Since I've been here I've found a "first world" peoples trapped by a "third world" government. You'all have all the same benefits/problems that we have back home. Now we just need to overcome the mindset and some of these folks whom continue to live mentally in the past (my Umno brothers should be ashamed of themselves... not even going to go there)...
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right on bro! the key word, UPGRADE. goddamit upgrade the service la tmnut!!! rm77 for 1.2 kBps p2p is rubbish!
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post Dec 19 2006, 08:59 PM

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tm net just bought another new throttling device ? After i finally found a way to bypass throttling....now my dl speed drop dead again

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post Dec 20 2006, 09:57 AM

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Anyone notice the top half of the full page ad Streamyx put out in yesterday's (18/12/2006) edition of Computimes in the New Straits Times? Looks like they're basically announcing that they are really throttling high-bandwidth connections. No real new information for anyone on this thread in that ad, but the funny thing is they said that they're not punishing people who use high bandwidth.

I've scanned the advert I mentioned and it is here: http://tinyurl.com/yamzsl
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post Dec 20 2006, 10:09 AM

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REally sakit hati read that article
although it is not that clear
if dont want user to dl unlimited
dont advertised
in the news by putting unlimited usage
that mean tipu
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post Dec 20 2006, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(littlefox @ Dec 20 2006, 09:57 AM)
Anyone notice the top half of the full page ad Streamyx put out in yesterday's (18/12/2006) edition of Computimes in the New Straits Times? Looks like they're basically announcing that they are really throttling high-bandwidth connections. No real new information for anyone on this thread in that ad, but the funny thing is they said that they're not punishing people who use high bandwidth.

I've scanned the advert I mentioned and it is here: http://tinyurl.com/yamzsl
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i don't buy NST so i didn't see the tmnut advert, but from your scan, i see they admit that they are throttling. they should have annouced this sooner and on their websites and on all newspapers, not just NST. they also contradicted themselves with this article when they sold us their so called "unlimited" packages. i wonder if they are opening themselves to countless lawsuits by admitting they are throttling our lines?
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post Dec 20 2006, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(littlefox @ Dec 20 2006, 09:57 AM)
Anyone notice the top half of the full page ad Streamyx put out in yesterday's (18/12/2006) edition of Computimes in the New Straits Times? Looks like they're basically announcing that they are really throttling high-bandwidth connections. No real new information for anyone on this thread in that ad, but the funny thing is they said that they're not punishing people who use high bandwidth.

I've scanned the advert I mentioned and it is here: http://tinyurl.com/yamzsl
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too blur that i can't read blush.gif
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zzz...fair usage?

gah, why don't they just admit that they don't even have enough bandwidth for their customer dry.gif
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QUOTE(nwk @ Dec 20 2006, 10:51 AM)
i don't buy NST so i didn't see the tmnut advert, but from your scan, i see they admit that they are throttling. they should have annouced this sooner and on their websites and on all newspapers, not just NST. they also contradicted themselves with this article when they sold us their so called "unlimited" packages. i wonder if they are opening themselves to countless lawsuits by admitting they are throttling our lines?
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I don't think they are. After all, they're basically announcing that throttling is considered their "best effort" to maximise bandwidth availability as opposed to, you know, admitting that the network can't handle Internet applications that is beyond "normal Internet usage" - some of which are applications that they themselves have been promoting with their advertising emphasis on high-speed multimedia on broadband - and getting more bandwidth or reworking the network to cope. That "best effort" clause is their biggest trump card; it basically allows them to say that anything they do is good enough and should be accepted, even if there are better alternatives that would actually solve the problem instead of shoving it under the carpet.
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post Jan 4 2007, 11:27 PM

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Honestly, TMnet wanted to and has monopolized broadband internet in Malaysia yet they provide us with the shittiest service ever. When I subscribed for Streamyx the instant it came out they told me it was already available in my area, so I stopped by ISDN connection. Right after that they called me and said I had to wait 2 months. When I finally got it, service had problems in 3 days or so.

They blame the users (that pay their salary) for consuming all their bandwidth. With the 'unlimited bandwidth' slogan and a monopoly on the business, I would assume they'd have quite a large amount of funding for extra international links. Even if they don't at least be frank with us from the beginning and not lie to us about the condition of things. 'Best effort' basis? Yeah right. I used to believe 20KB/s was the max I could pull out of my line till I got introduced to Mass Downloader + Telstra proxies (160KB/s now). I think they've had a messed up network infrastructure from the start. I ping less with friends in Singapore compared to the Streamyx DNS servers themselves.
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post Jan 22 2007, 11:46 PM

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MY BT is not moving at all again!!!!!! AAARGHHH TMNuT!!!!!! Really fed up man...sigh...so called "buatan malaysia" level of service.....depressing.

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