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 Proper Pre and Post Workout Nutrition, Very Important!!

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post Jul 12 2012, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Jul 11 2012, 02:24 PM)
hi all, could any of you recommend me a whey protein powder for building lean mass (grow muscles and maintain weight)? I dont want to bulk, just lean mass is fine.
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No need for that just proper diet and nutrition is enough
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post Jul 13 2012, 10:21 PM

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Guys. I'm real skinny and just wanted to gain lean mass and stay. It's very very difficult for me to gain any weight since my teens. Any recommendations? I'd have supplements and I wanted to know what are the suitable ones.


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post Jul 14 2012, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(Chyan @ Jul 13 2012, 10:21 PM)
Guys.  I'm real skinny and just wanted to gain lean mass and stay. It's very very difficult for me to gain any weight since my teens. Any recommendations? I'd have supplements and I wanted to know what are the suitable ones.
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It's not the supplements but the diet is far more important. You don't need a supplements, it's not magic powder.
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post Jul 17 2012, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 14 2012, 01:46 AM)
It's not the supplements but the diet is far more important. You don't need a supplements, it's not magic powder.
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true. not magic powder.

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post Jul 18 2012, 01:04 AM

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Hi Dudes,

A noob question here. If im consuming a 600cal mass gainer supplement post workout, should i be eating a whole meal still within 2hours ?. Also when do you take my vitamin E ? thanks guys rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(coolcrave @ Jul 18 2012, 01:04 AM)
Hi Dudes,

A noob question here. If im consuming a 600cal mass gainer supplement post workout, should i be eating a whole meal still within 2hours ?. Also when do you take my vitamin E ? thanks guys  rolleyes.gif
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Why do you need to eat whole food within 2 hours I might ask?
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post Jul 18 2012, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 18 2012, 01:15 AM)
Why do you need to eat whole food within 2 hours I might ask?
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Hey Alien9,

Thanks for the reply

IMO isn't that how post workout nutrition works ? when you body is in a nutrient-hunger state ?
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post Jul 18 2012, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(coolcrave @ Jul 18 2012, 01:41 AM)
Hey Alien9,

Thanks for the reply

IMO isn't that how post workout nutrition works ? when you body is in a nutrient-hunger state ?
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Or the so called anabolic window myth?
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post Jul 18 2012, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 18 2012, 01:58 AM)
Or the so called anabolic window myth?
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Yes indeed so my question is my post workout mass gainer supplement sufficient enough or do i still need to have normal meal to meet my calorie needs ? if i do need to have my regular food ? how long after my post workout protein shake would that be ? rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(coolcrave @ Jul 18 2012, 02:06 AM)
Yes indeed so my question is my post workout mass gainer supplement sufficient enough or do i still need to have normal meal to meet my calorie needs ? if i do need to have my regular food ? how long after my post workout protein shake would that be ?  rolleyes.gif
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Nobody here can answer that because we don't know your required caloric intake. And whether or not to wait before eating solid food after your shake is up to you. If you can stomach a meal after a shake, go ahead. If not, wait for a while.
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post Jul 21 2012, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 18 2012, 01:58 AM)
Or the so called anabolic window myth?
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A myth???

Are you sure.....????!


Added on July 21, 2012, 1:19 am
QUOTE(coolcrave @ Jul 18 2012, 02:06 AM)
Yes indeed so my question is my post workout mass gainer supplement sufficient enough or do i still need to have normal meal to meet my calorie needs ? if i do need to have my regular food ? how long after my post workout protein shake would that be ?  rolleyes.gif
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Are you bulking? How much weigh have you put on recently?

I'd say no not enough but that's just me. Post training should rightly be your biggest meal of the day if on a gaining cycle so should be > 1000 calories

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post Jul 21 2012, 02:44 AM

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The following two articles are very interesting

Nutritional strategies to promote postexercise recovery. Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2010 Dec;20(6):515-32
http://journals.humankinetics.com/AfcStyle...9_0165+1-17.pdf

Combined ingestion of protein and free leucine with carbohydrate increases postexercise muscle protein synthesis in vivo in male subjects. AJP - Endo April 1, 2005 vol. 288 no. 4 E645-E653
http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/288/4/E645.long

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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jul 21 2012, 01:17 AM)
A myth???

Are you sure.....????!
A yes and no answer.

On why it's a myth: http://www.scribd.com/doc/90705250/Alan-Aragon-Excellent

On the other side of the coin, we want to optimize protein synthesis.

Check out the two videos: http://www.biolayne.com/appearances/interv...orts-nutrition/

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post Jul 21 2012, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jul 21 2012, 01:17 AM)
A myth???

Are you sure.....????!
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http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_articl...nutrition_myths
*see point 4,5, and 7.

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 21 2012, 02:32 PM)
While I respect Dave Barr, after reading all that, I disagree with him.

His methods seems more geared to elite level athletes and BBers.

I especially disagree about the 24-hour elevated window for protein synthesis. While it may be true on research for Olympic athletes I doubt its true for average Joe.

Your and my workout is a pale shadow compare to what lets say Michael Phelps or a elite Olympic lifter's workout in the gym. Our genetics are also much worse than them. Hence, we can conclude that our nutritional needs and patterns should be different.
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post Jul 23 2012, 06:13 AM

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hi all, i've a question to ask,

i will usually do workout after heavy meal such as breakfast/lunch..
usually after 30 mins finished meal i started workout..and for post sometimes i take 1 glass of milk/usually only a glass of water.so, how am i doing?
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QUOTE(Grassvatore @ Jul 23 2012, 06:13 AM)
hi all, i've a question to ask,

i will usually do workout after heavy meal such as breakfast/lunch..
usually after 30 mins finished meal i started workout..and for post sometimes i take 1 glass of milk/usually only a glass of water.so, how am i doing?
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If you don't feel anything weird such as you want to vomit during your workout, then it is ok.
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post Aug 31 2012, 01:04 PM

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Currently I'm taking GNC Re-Built Mass daily, N.O Xplode as pre-workout while ON Platinum Hydro Whey as post workout. I workout once for every 2 days
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post Oct 17 2012, 10:17 PM

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Guys, i wanna try musclepharm assault as my pre-workout..before dis i tried hemorage..

Any comment?
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post Nov 12 2012, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 14 2012, 02:46 AM)
It's not the supplements but the diet is far more important. You don't need a supplements, it's not magic powder.
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After reading much articles from the web, i truly understands the actual way of getting a leaner body. A proper diet meals + cardio is way better than relying on protein supplements. Thanks man notworthy.gif

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