Plz punch him in the face really really hard.

My friend has told me this experience before. You don't have to take whey protein for life, just try to maintain your muscles buy regularly working out.

Knee on his nuts too (really really hard)

I second.

Hello All.. Sifu

I just start my Meal Plan, Hope to lost some fat and gain some Lean Body Muscle:
My Weight 62Kg and Height 167Cm

My Workout:
Mon = Workout
Tue = Cardio
Wed = Workout
Thur = Cardio
Fri = Workout
Sat = OFF
Sun = Off

8am (Breakfast):
1 Capsule Fish Oil EPA
Oat (5 teaspoon)+ Cereal (5 teaspoon)
1 Cup Anlene (Milk Powder)

11am (Sneak):
1 pcs Granola Bars

2pm (Lunch):
1 Capsule Fish Oil EPA
1 pcs Steam Chicken Beast
3 Boiled Egg
1 pcs Fruit

5pm (Tea Break):
2 slices Toasted Wholemeal Bread
3 Boiled Egg
1 cup Herbal Tea

6pm (Before Workout)
Whey Protein Shake

8pm (After Workout)
Whey Protein Shake
2 slices Wholemeal Bread with Tuna or Cheese or Ham (Either 1 Only)
1 pcs Fruit

11pm (Before Sleep)
1 cup Anlene (Milk Power)
1 teaspoon Honey

Am i doing it right ? Anything i miss out ?
Thank You

how long have u been eating like this? gaining any weight so far?
bfast needs more protein imo.

seems really lean man, mad props for keeping to it. try having more chicken breast for the bigger meals.seems to me you probably count calories If cardio is too tiring u might wana take it out cuz it may affect your performance on training days. if u wana lean bulk.. u can try.. but itll b longer than bulking first then cutting unless u got rly good genes n u can stik to d diet for a rly long time

Hi Bro!
I just start it around 3 week .. Weight no big increase
For Breakfast need put Protein ? Protein Shake or Egg Better ?

Actually from the 1st i having 2 Chicken Breast but i feel very full until can't finish the Egg and Fruit.
So i just take 1 Chicken Breast with the Egg and Fruit. (70% Full with water)

You suggest go bulk 1st then just diet till lean body ?

3 week ah.. by 4 week sud see some changes. are u squatting and deadlifting? whats your work out routine like?
erm any sort of protein is fine.. personally i feel shakes are best in the morning and after a workout. before a workout oso not that bad. if u have problems eating more solid food in the morning like i do, half boiled eggs are ur best fren..

snack can b bit bigger oso haha, like sandwich? or erm, pao? or even a small burger. sumtimes i have chicken rice with less rice for snack :S take ur fish oil before bed, i learnt from darklight.. hes a sifu here haha.. too full nevermind, eat more on your snacks then haha.. i always push what I cant finish to my next meal, like my meat from dinner too much I can keep for supper.

yes bulk 1st because as you bulk your muscle mass will increase, so will your bodyweight, wich part of it might be fat. but muscle helps to burn fat, even when you are not working out or doing cardio. which is why weightlifting can help burn fat. so imagine now with lesser muscle mass you try to bulk and cut, you may be at a risk of not eating enough calories, and you will not burn fat faster as you would if you have already bulked up with more muscle mass.

I bulked up from 58 to 64-65 now, its been about 7 months or so since I started, and I oso got a biiiit of tummy. planning to cut once I reach about 70-75kg while maintaining this bodyfat%

Quick question, guys.

I am doing workout in the evening after office hours.
Should I take supplements during workout day or a day after workout?
I asked the GNC salesperson and she said it should be taken during the workout day.
But my logic tells me it is best taken the day after workout, when our muscles are recovering.

You replies are most welcomed.
Thanks!

Hi Sifu,
I'm age 17,167cm,60Kg

I'm not recommended for taking any supplements for this age izit true,the supplement will damage my kidney as well?

"I'm thinking of taking Toner from GNC"

hey guys, im new to bodybuilding. wanna ask something bout whey protein or something related to it.
few days ago i went to gnc to ask about muscletech, optimum whey 100%, the salesman not recommend me to eat both of these. because of i never eat any of whey protein before, so he recommended me to take the GNC amp xxx mass, it is including creatine, because im skinny gain the mass first after that only get muscletech-nitrotech pro series.
im wondering is it true for what he told me? and that GNC amp xxx mass cost rm27x if no mistaken for 2.7kg.

HIS MAIN INTENTION IS TO CON U.

Go and search in this forum, there a bunch of decent sellers.

So as for ur reference

Mass gainer = carbs + whey protein

Whey protein powder = Whey protein

do ur own research on creatine.

And those muscletech stuff is ridiculously over price, normal whey like Optimum nutrition, EAS, Scivation, dymatize and etc are awesome and its within an affordable price range. By the way, Rm270 u can add on Rm 10 - 30 to get scivation whey 10lbs tats twice the weight of ur amp xxx mass with half the price. Dont buy protein from GNC unless u can get 50% or more discount from them.

Someone once told me GNC staff get a bigger commision if they manage to push GNC products rather than other brands. Can't confirm as I don't know anyone working there.

Yup they rite. You need extra calories to gain mass. Go for mass gainer instead of whey.
Look at the profile first and compare. Shoud have clean calories instead of loading with lot of sugar.
I recommend UN Real Gain + UN Creatine Monohydrate.
Take Creatine into your arsenal coz creatine is the effective supplement.

This post has been edited by arekey: Oct 18 2010, 10:36 AM

Most importantly, dont buy it from GNC XD

alright dude, for my weight 60kg and height 177cm, most important is im still a newbie never do any workout before and im skinny, seriously my body is hard to gain weight, my highest weight achieved was 63kg @_@, so which one suits me the best? should i go for whey protein powder, mass gainer, mass gainer+ creatine(buying separately or buy with including in the mass gainer), or whey protein with creatine/buy creatine separately? anyone pls give some comments which one fits me well.

which seller is the best so far? i went to GNC because i worry i will buy an imitation in lyn seller, i dono how to differentiate which is an ori products or imitation products(if it is existing in the market)

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Added on October 19, 2010, 9:57 pmnote taken, will do a survey bout it, thanks dude.
btw, UN stands for universal nutrition? the UN real gain + creatine will make me gain more mass only but not muscle rite? so how long does me has to take to gain the mass before i go into whey protein?

This post has been edited by hsienhsien: Oct 19 2010, 10:47 PM

Mass gainer gives u extra calories and carbohydrate, which u can simply get it by eatting brown rice, pasta, sweet potato and etc (all the complex carbs) which is not that expensive. However whey only have Whey, minimal carbs and some bcaa.

If u would have ask me, i would say go for whey, and mix it with glucose (or any simple carbs, higher the gi the better) for ur post workout and the rest of the day, just consume more protein (remember u need 1g of protein to per lbs of ur body weight). Add on healthy fat (coconut oil, oilive oil, sunflower seed, pumpkin seed and etc) on ur daily diet for extra calories for u to gain weight.

Remember, those supplement is still supplement, real food is way better than those powder

what if i buy a nitrotech pre workout and serious mass for post workout? and the nitrotech mix with glucose that u recommend to me, would it gives better result?

The result will be the same with normal whey, except u will burn a bigger hole in ur wallet.

Preworkout? brown rice plus beef or chicken, or oat and eggs.

You will gain muscle mass. Universal Real Gain use clean calories, it's minimize fat build-up compare to other that load up with simple sugar that cause you gain weight and fat in no time. For me Universal Nutrition is better in quality & price.

This post has been edited by arekey: Oct 21 2010, 11:24 AM