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ArchId
post Jun 1 2023, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(kayef @ May 31 2023, 08:55 PM)
How about if I use glass and metal to create the room like below? Again, the contractor said metal and glass structure don't need to submit plan to DBKL, can you help to clarify?

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Same thing …you are changing the purpose usage of that particular area … original is an open balcony as per your original sales and purchased layout and now changing the usage to gym/ new room which is basically new enclosed space with 4 corners of full height wall / glass curtain wall ….furthermore you are extending the roofing which deviate from the original S&P plan …. Still need to submit …. If You trust your contractor you can proceeed with his idea , but if let’s say suddenly got complaints from neighbour or DBKL officer suddenly hardworking enough to do some patrolling …then get ready to kaodim or pay penalty / fine…


If small works like changing old roofing to new roofing , doing fencing gate , or internal partition still need to apply permit … permit kerja kecil …. Yours consider as extension …need to submit

Hope this clarify
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post Jun 6 2023, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(ArchId @ Jun 1 2023, 09:21 AM)
Same thing …you are changing the purpose usage of that particular area … original is an open balcony as per your original sales and purchased layout and now changing the usage to gym/ new room which is basically new enclosed space with 4 corners of full height wall / glass curtain wall ….furthermore you are extending the roofing which deviate from the original S&P plan …. Still need to submit …. If You trust your contractor you can proceeed with his idea , but if let’s say suddenly got complaints from neighbour or DBKL officer suddenly hardworking enough to do some patrolling …then get ready to kaodim or pay penalty / fine…
If small works like changing old roofing to new roofing , doing fencing gate , or internal partition still need to apply permit … permit kerja kecil …. Yours consider as extension …need to submit

Hope this clarify
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Thanks for the reply, we should probably discuss further details privately so as not to spoilt this thread. Will PM you.
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post Jun 13 2023, 09:44 PM

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Anyone here doing the submission for renovation permit for MPKJ ?

Looking for one for some minor work with my home.
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post Jun 14 2023, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(OptimusStar @ Jun 13 2023, 09:44 PM)
Anyone here doing the submission for renovation permit for MPKJ ?

Looking for one for some minor work with my home.
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please clarify in terms or minor works... if it falls under item listed below can apply permit kerja kecil

1. Menukar Kemasan Lantai Dan Bumbung
* pelan lakaran hendaklah disediakan oleh pihak pemilik
2. Memasang Grill /Tukar Pintu Dan Tingkap
* pelan lakaran hendaklah disediakan oleh pihak pemilik
3. Memasang Awning

this owner can submit themself...

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post Jun 15 2023, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(ArchId @ Jun 14 2023, 12:23 AM)
please clarify in terms or minor works... if it falls under item listed below can apply permit kerja kecil

1. Menukar Kemasan Lantai Dan Bumbung
* pelan lakaran hendaklah disediakan oleh pihak pemilik
2. Memasang Grill /Tukar Pintu Dan Tingkap
* pelan lakaran hendaklah disediakan oleh pihak pemilik
3. Memasang Awning

this owner can submit themself...

cheers mate
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i have a flat surface which i want to add awning and make it like a balcony .
Would this fall under permit kerja kecil ?
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post Jun 15 2023, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(OptimusStar @ Jun 15 2023, 12:40 AM)
i have a flat surface which i want to add awning and make it like a balcony .
Would this fall under permit kerja kecil ?
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nope..that is not an awning. You adding a new roofing at 1st floor and new balcony as well as new door access to the balcony correct.. need to submit plan to MPKJ.

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post Jul 22 2023, 11:11 AM

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Side track a bit, does anyone know if we can apply for DBKL green
dustbin FOC? If got, where and how to apply?

Sorry I couldn't find relevant post on this forum, so I post it here. If anyone came across similar post, appreciate let me know

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post Jul 25 2023, 08:09 AM

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I got a permit for back extension. Wanna ask this permit only for one time use? If few years later I want to extend front porch still need to reapply permit or can use the same permit again?
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post Jul 25 2023, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(Moon@Star @ Jul 25 2023, 08:09 AM)
I got a permit for back extension. Wanna ask this permit only for one time use? If few years later I want to extend front porch still need to reapply permit or can use the same permit again?
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Permit is only valid for 1 year … if the construction still not complete within a year , a renewal permit fee will be imposed and you will have to give a very good reason to convince the OSC committee on why they should approve another renewal….

The carporch extension is included in the original approval drawing BP approval ? If not , then have to submit new submission ….

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post Jul 25 2023, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(Moon@Star @ Jul 25 2023, 08:09 AM)
I got a permit for back extension. Wanna ask this permit only for one time use? If few years later I want to extend front porch still need to reapply permit or can use the same permit again?
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Back extension permit was applied using pelan setara or through qualified person?
If pelan setara, then valid for 1 year only and cannot be used for other works - you would need to buy separate pelan setara for the porch.
If applied through QP, the plan approval is still valid provided borang b (notice to start work) was submitted within 1 year from approval. Then if CCC has not been issued, amendment plan (to extend porch) can be submitted. The only expiry would likely be permit meletak bahan binaan.
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post Jul 26 2023, 04:33 PM

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Hi, may I know is it possible to get a runner to buy the original drawing plan of the house since current owner had lost the drawing, the place is in PJ
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post Jul 26 2023, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(GSCboy @ Jul 26 2023, 04:33 PM)
Hi, may I know is it possible to get a runner to buy the original drawing plan of the house since current owner had lost the drawing, the place is in PJ
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Yes. Can do it yourself thou.
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post Jul 27 2023, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(Phyarc @ Jul 26 2023, 11:52 PM)
Yes. Can do it yourself thou.
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Are there any documents i need to bring ? Or i just go there and tell them which area will do ? Can I pay a runner to do it for me ?

This post has been edited by GSCboy: Jul 27 2023, 02:04 AM
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post Jul 27 2023, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(GSCboy @ Jul 27 2023, 01:42 AM)
Are there any documents i need to bring ? Or i just go there and tell them which area will do ? Can I pay a runner to do it for me ?
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Refer to the attachment.
Radha not friendly type but will search. Whether same day or take days/weeks, it depends.
If not found, you can engage someone to do measured drawing.
Also can ask neighbours if they keep the same house plan.
If still want someone to help, just PM me.

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post Jul 30 2023, 07:05 AM

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Hi all. Want to get advice on my renovation works. My house is a state title intermediate terrace.

Most of the renovation is nothing major except for one item, which is an extension of my bathroom.

The original is a space for walk in wardrobe next to the bathroom. The bathroom is being extended into the wall in wardrobe space to have a new shower area.

Sewerage systems unaffected but a new drain point will need to be created as well as rerouting the water piping in that bathroom.

Does this require DBKL permit?
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QUOTE(sojurn @ Jul 30 2023, 07:05 AM)
Hi all. Want to get advice on my renovation works. My house is a state title intermediate terrace.

Most of the renovation is nothing major except for one item, which is an extension of my bathroom.

The original is a space for walk in wardrobe next to the bathroom. The bathroom is being extended into the wall in wardrobe space to have a new shower area.

Sewerage systems unaffected but a new drain point will need to be created as well as rerouting the water piping in that bathroom.

Does this require DBKL permit?
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Yes, should be able to apply for Permit Kerja Kecil.
Owner can self apply/enquire at OSC counter (Menara DBKL 2).

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post Jul 30 2023, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(sojurn @ Jul 30 2023, 07:05 AM)
Hi all. Want to get advice on my renovation works. My house is a state title intermediate terrace.

Most of the renovation is nothing major except for one item, which is an extension of my bathroom.

The original is a space for walk in wardrobe next to the bathroom. The bathroom is being extended into the wall in wardrobe space to have a new shower area.

Sewerage systems unaffected but a new drain point will need to be created as well as rerouting the water piping in that bathroom.

Does this require DBKL permit?
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Please refer to this requirements …


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post Jul 30 2023, 04:02 PM

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Thank you ArchId and Phyarc.

From the reading of the form; besides the property details and pics, it is mainly to see the commissioner of oaths and sign off. Is that right?
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post Jul 30 2023, 04:47 PM

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Hey all, am planning to do an extension of my new intermediate 22x70 residential lot backyard (for wet kitchen); extend by a further 5" width x 22" length x 12" height, fully covered with red brick wall and roof.

Looking for advice on the permit procedure under MPAJ guidelines.. if I plan to do the submissions on my own, do I need to engage a LAM draftsman to endorse my plan first then submit the endorsed plan to MPAJ for approval?

Already have a prospective contractor but not sure how the interaction between contractor and the draftsman will be like etc... contractor knows my exact plan but if i engage draftsman need to have another round of site visit and measuring by draftsman? What if draftsman has different technical advice vs contractor? Sorry total noob here and confused with different advice from multiple parties...
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post Jul 30 2023, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(sojurn @ Jul 30 2023, 04:02 PM)
Thank you ArchId and Phyarc.

From the reading of the form; besides the property details and pics, it is mainly to see the commissioner of oaths and sign off. Is that right?
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Yeap correct , and the floor plan demarcation of area on what works going to be affected …. Depending on the officer also if they ask

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