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TShaikalraihan
post Feb 5 2015, 02:26 PM, updated 7y ago

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How to get the approval of building plans and work permits

1. Owner must finalize the design of renovation before hire someone to do a submission
2. If contractor volunteer to do the submission, ask them which architect/building draughtman they use and LAM Registered No.
3. If necessary, owner must hire an engineer to do some calculation, report and structure drawing. (depends on Local Authorities)
4. Owner must prepare some documents for submission such as cukai taksiran, S&P, existing CF etc.
5. Consultation fees :-

RM2500-RM3000 includes architecture endorsement, site survey, building plan drawing, documentation and traveling.

Owner must prepare some cash around RM1000-RM2000 for deposit, processing fees, tong RORO (construction waste bin) depends on scale of renovation. Deposit will be returned when construction is completed. But for DBKL, no deposit required. Just pay RM100 for renovation less than 1000sqft (CODE B2)

6. Approval/Work Permit usually takes about 7-30days depends on ‘Piagam Pelanggan’ from Local Authorities.

Additional Info:-

Basic building setback for terrace :-
a) front - 20' clear from wall to boundary (main gate)
b) back - can extend to end of boundary
c) side (corner lot) - 10' clear from wall to boundary
d) side (end lot) - 5' clear from wall to boundary

The different thing between architect and building draughtsman (BD) is , BD are limited to specifying area only and the fees therefore a bit cheaper than architect.

Do not pay to enforcement if they ask for ‘kawtim’. Report to Local Authorities if happen.

Do not start work before get an approval/work permit. If not, you will be fined as much as 10x depends on your processing fees.

Do not trust contractor if they can ‘kawtim’ with Local Authorities. Some of them didn’t do a submission and if caught, owner will be responsible.

Architect is the person who will be responsible for the probability of future. They knows about UBBL and buildings.

Just pay a little bit for pleasure in the future...

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This post has been edited by haikalraihan: Aug 13 2018, 10:47 AM
isma45
post Feb 5 2015, 02:29 PM

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thank u for the info, is this rules applies to condo renovation too?


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post Feb 5 2015, 03:02 PM

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borneosailor
post Feb 5 2015, 03:07 PM

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Does these rules apply for semi-detached houses?
TShaikalraihan
post Feb 6 2015, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(isma45 @ Feb 5 2015, 02:29 PM)
thank u for the info, is this rules applies to condo renovation too?
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For condo u need to get an approval from JMB first


QUOTE(shinchan99 @ Feb 5 2015, 03:02 PM)
Thumbs up for bro haikalraihan service  thumbup.gif .

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No problem bro


QUOTE(borneosailor @ Feb 5 2015, 03:07 PM)
Does these rules apply for semi-detached houses?
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Yes.if your semi-D extention less than 1000sqft.

semi-D setback (wall) :-
front - 20'
side - 10'
back - can extend max to boundary (if ur house 10' clear backlane)

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post Feb 6 2015, 10:15 AM

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it is necessary to apply if doing internal renovation like wiring, painting and plaster ceiling?


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post Feb 6 2015, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(haikalraihan @ Feb 5 2015, 02:26 PM)
How to get the approval of building plans and work permits

1. Owner must finalize the design of renovation before hire someone to do a submission
2. If contractor volunteer to do the submission, ask them which architect/building draughtman they use and LAM Registered No.
3. If necessary, owner must hire an engineer to do some calculation, report and structure drawing. (depends on Local Authorities)
4. Owner must prepare some documents for submission such as cukai taksiran, S&P, existing CF etc.
5. Consultation fees :-

RM2500-RM3000 includes Architect endorsement, site survey, building plan drawing, documentation and traveling.

Owner must prepare some cash around RM1000-RM2000 for deposit, processing fees, tong RORO (construction waste bin) depends on scale of renovation. Deposit will be returned when construction is completed. But for DBKL, no deposit required. Just pay RM100 for renovation less than 1000sqft (CODE B2)

6. Approval/Work Permit usually takes about 7-30days depends on ‘Piagam Pelanggan’ from Local Authorities.

Additional Info:-

Basic building setback for terrace :-
a) front - 20' clear from wall to boundary (main gate)
b) back - can extend to end of boundary
c) side (corner lot) - 10' clear from wall to boundary
d) side (end lot) - 5' clear from wall to boundary

The different thing between architect and building draughtsman (BD) is , BD are limited to specifying area only and the fees therefore a bit cheaper than architect.

Do not pay to enforcement if they ask for ‘kawtim’. Report to Local Authorities if happen.

Do not start work before get an approval/work permit. If not, you will be fined as much as 10x depends on your processing fees.

Do not trust contractor if they can ‘kawtim’ with Local Authorities. Some of them didn’t do a submission and if caught, owner will be responsible.

Architect is the person who will be responsible for the probability of future. They knows about UBBL and buildings.

Just pay a little bit for pleasure in the future...

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how about a double storey house? can extend ground floor and 1st floor? thank you.
TShaikalraihan
post Feb 9 2015, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(loui @ Feb 6 2015, 10:15 AM)
it is necessary to apply if doing internal renovation like wiring, painting and plaster ceiling?
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no need to submit plan for interior works. just apply tong roro at Majlis.
Small (4 tonne) = RM200
Big (7 tonne) = Rm350


QUOTE(seong22368 @ Feb 6 2015, 04:36 PM)
how about a double storey house? can extend ground floor and 1st floor? thank you.
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yes u can. (refer my info above for building setback)
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post Feb 9 2015, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(haikalraihan @ Feb 9 2015, 09:22 AM)
no need to submit plan for interior works. just apply tong roro at Majlis.
Small (4 tonne) = RM200
Big (7 tonne) = Rm350
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what about altering the gate structure

plan to demolish the current chain gate and built a concrete one
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post Feb 9 2015, 10:47 AM

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Thumbs up bro..was about to open tered to ask bout this..

but one big Q; processes/document/payment neded by Local Authority varies between location right?

How to know what needed; let say me in SPS penang? who to meet?
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post Feb 9 2015, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(Azriefiq @ Feb 9 2015, 10:47 AM)
Thumbs up bro..was about to open tered to ask bout this..

but one big Q; processes/document/payment neded by Local Authority varies between location right?

How to know what needed; let say me in SPS penang? who to meet?
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Go to mpsp at perda. Can ask them details. Very easy no need to hire runner
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post Feb 9 2015, 04:33 PM

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yes u can. (refer my info above for building setback)
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the setback is applied to both 1st and ground floor for front and back?

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TShaikalraihan
post Feb 12 2015, 10:46 AM

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[quote=Mohdnorazman,Feb 9 2015, 10:52 AM]
Go to mpsp at perda. Can ask them details. Very easy no need to hire runner
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[quote=seong22368,Feb 9 2015, 04:33 PM]
yes u can. (refer my info above for building setback)
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the setback is applied to both 1st and ground floor for front and back?
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Yes.building setback applied for both ground & 1st floor.but roof eaves depend on which Majlis your submission.some Majlis 3' clear and some 5' clear
TShaikalraihan
post Apr 13 2015, 11:13 AM

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Sorry to not answer all your PM.quite busy lately.
There are some popular questions into my inbox.

Q : What is building setback?
A : Building setback is maximum extension allowed by the Local Authorities

Q : How long the approval will be obtained?
A : 1-2 weeks depends on Local Authorities

Q : Can house owner use their own Tong Roro?
A : Yes & No. For DBKL & MBSA area, house owner needs to use their registered contractor but MBPJ, house owner can use their own Tong

Q : How much is the penalty to be imposed if renovation started without permit / approval?
A : 10-20x from processing fees. Example; Processing fees : RM500, Penalty : RM500x20 = RM10k

Q : What are the difference between Standard Book & Architectural Plan?
A : Standard Book only for basic extension without flat roof.

Q : Internal renovation also needs approval plan?
A : Yes if there are new internal structure (brick wall / beam)

Q : Awning installation does require a permit?
A : No

Q : What is CCC?
A : CCC is Certificate of Completion and Compliance

Q : Can house owner add more floor for intermediate terrace link house?
A: Yes can

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post Apr 29 2015, 10:08 AM

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I also 1 do front extension just a balcony is it need a permit also?pls pm me more detail and total of cost location is cheras under dbkl section.

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QUOTE(haikalraihan @ Feb 6 2015, 08:32 AM)
semi-D setback (wall) :-
front - 20'
side - 10'
back - can extend max to boundary (if ur house 10' clear backlane)
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hi. what if the semi-D has no backlane, but there is a 10' ground at the back before a wall that divide the other house. Can still extend max to boundary?
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post Apr 29 2015, 10:24 AM

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Hi, got a question. I bought a sub sale house which was extended but no permit. If I submit my plans now will I still kena the penalty?
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QUOTE(Bigboyz @ Apr 29 2015, 10:24 AM)
Hi, got a question. I bought a sub sale house which was extended but no permit. If I submit my plans now will I still kena the penalty?
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I also facing this problem. I did call some architect, he said sure kena fine... I all finding other way to settle it.
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post Apr 29 2015, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(haikalraihan @ Apr 13 2015, 11:13 AM)
Sorry to not answer all your PM.quite busy lately.
There are some popular questions into my inbox.

Q : What is building setback?
A : Building setback is maximum extension allowed by the Local Authorities

Q : How long the approval will be obtained?
A : 1-2 weeks depends on Local Authorities

Q : Can house owner use their own Tong Roro?
A : Yes & No. For DBKL & MBSA area, house owner needs to use their registered contractor but MBPJ, house owner can use their own Tong

Q : How much is the penalty to be imposed if renovation started without permit / approval?
A : 10-20x from processing fees. Example; Processing fees : RM500, Penalty : RM500x20 = RM10k

Q : What are the difference between Standard Book & Architectural Plan?
A : Standard Book only for basic extension without flat roof.

Q : Internal renovation also needs approval plan?
A : Yes if there are new internal structure (brick wall / beam)

Q : Awning installation does require a permit?
A : No

Q : What is CCC?
A : CCC is Certificate of Completion and Compliance

Q : Can house owner add more floor for intermediate terrace link house?
A: Yes can

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Should include this in ur first post, imho. Edit ur first post and update it with this faq biggrin.gif
Antzfield
post Apr 29 2015, 12:16 PM

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Thank you so much for sharing and clarification.

In the midst of preparing for renovation including extension, these info surely very useful rclxms.gif

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