First Airbus A400M airlifter for Malaysia rolled out of paintshop 23 January 2015 Friday
RMAF A400M M54-01
The first Airbus A400M new generation airlifter for the Royal Malaysian Air Force has now been painted in its new colours at the Airbus Defence and Space facility in Seville, Spain. In the coming days the aircraft, known as MSN22, will perform its first ground tests and flights before delivery. RMAF pilots, maintenance engineers and technicians are already undergoing instruction at the Airbus Defence and Space International Training Centre.
The photo above shows the aircraft in RMAF colours.
was told.. it like budget alternative to Hellfire on attack heli and come with ground variant also
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Besides the Nexter Caesar 155mm SPH the Royal Thai Army is also acquiring the Elbit ATMOS 155mm SPH. The RTA will have 2 different variant of wheeled SPH.
Tracked variant are almost automatic from entering rounds and placing propellants
I hope K9 could be selected for our SPG or at least take turkey T-155
both also too heavy loh ..... think more logic one ....... newest advance SPH model also automatic load rounds and placing propellants .... depend how your budget ..... now need to think first wheeled or tracked SPH first+ weight -->than single or complete system sph -->than ammunition cost. than overall cost.... adjustment .... and than Mindef please not buy tower howitzer with manual man load round anymore.
This post has been edited by waja2000: Jan 25 2015, 01:26 AM
------------------------------------ Germany's defense minister criticizes Airbus over new A400M delays
(Reuters) - Germany's defense minister has criticised Airbus (AIR.PA) over new delays in the delivery of A400M military transport planes, saying the company had a serious problem with product quality.
The German armed forces took delivery in December of the first of a total of 53 A400M aircraft that it has ordered, with a further five due to be handed over this year.
However, the defense ministry said last week there were signals from European defense equipment agency OCCAR, which is negotiating with Airbus on behalf of governments seeking to buy the planes, that A400M deliveries could be delayed.
"The Airbus announcement of further A400M delays hits us at the most inconvenient time," Defence Minister Ursula von der Leyen told Der Spiegel magazine in excerpts of an interview to published in Saturday's edition.
"At stake is not just the image of the company, but also Germany's reliability as an alliance partner," she added.
"Airbus seems to have a serious problem with its understanding of product quality."
The minister said she expected Airbus to make every effort to minimise the impact of the delays on the armed forces.
German military inspectors checked the first A400M plane in November and listed 875 defects, including missing insulation of electric cables and leaked hydraulic oil on the main landing gear and tires, Spiegel reported, citing internal documents.
A spokesman for Airbus said the company was in contact with its clients on the matter and declined to give further comment.
This week a company executive said Airbus' Defence and Space division will reveal a revised 2015 delivery schedule for the A400M at the end of February. In total, 170 A400Ms have been ordered by seven nations - Germany, Belgium, Britain, France, Luxembourg, Spain and Turkey. [ID:nL6N0UZ2NC]
After saying last year that Germany would take a more active role in global affairs, von der Leyen was forced to acknowledge that so much military equipment was in a state of disrepair that Germany was unable to meet its NATO commitments.
The attack leaves at least 30 civilians dead, and many injured, as the attack targets a residential area and a market at saturday in Ukraine's southeastern city of Mariupol.
The separatists' top leader declared that an offensive against Mariupol had begun — then later toned down his threats as the scale of the civilian casualties became clear.
Crazy, man. People say being under Grad rocket attack much more scarier than under usual artillery attack. A serious salvo can launch up to 100 rockets in just 10 seconds. Imagine the impact of that 100 rockets on the target.
Hi guys, just want other's opinion. What do you think of our new digital camo? This particular picture does not really give good impression, but of course it's just one picture. The tan color especially seems jarring when contrasted to high vegetation areas. Maybe it works better in urban areas?
22 Jan A South Korean Vessel Shells To 1 People Were Injured, Failure Occurs When Shooting Training news center
According to local media reports, 21 afternoon local time, the south Korean navy high-speed missile attack boat (PKG), a 76 mm caliber naval gun exploded, leading to a soldier seriously wounded. South Korea’s navy has 22 released the news and said that ships in the western south Korean waters offshore zhong qing south road, taian county of shooting training, then canceled the training for naval gun is in failure, in an explosion on his way home. It is understood that the soldier was shot in the head, he had a serious accident, have life risk. The specific reason for the bomb explosion is under investigation. In addition, exploding shells is made in Italy, South Korea for its improvement was carried out.
Hi guys, just want other's opinion. What do you think of our new digital camo? This particular picture does not really give good impression, but of course it's just one picture. The tan color especially seems jarring when contrasted to high vegetation areas. Maybe it works better in urban areas?
It designed for long range recon photo.. meaning u see from far u see pixelated picture when you zoom in.
That what digital camo are for..
This is just basic.. normally under combat or training, the crew will put vegetation onboard for added camo haha
YOKOHAMA, Japan, Jan. 23 (UPI) -- A U.S. Navy container ship remained stuck on a coral reef near Okinawa for a second day Friday. A total of 131 people, including 38 civilian crew members, 26 Marines and 67 soldiers, were still on board the USNS Sgt. Matej Kocak, officials said, with another ship on the scene if they need to be evacuated. The vessel was leaking but the amount of water coming in is "manageable," Lt. Charles Banks, a spokesman for the 7th Fleet, said.
The 821-foot vessel struck a reef or outcropping Thursday 6 miles off the coast of Okinawa. High tide that night did not free it.
Banks said experts were headed to the area to determine what must be done to get the ship off the reef. In one case in 2013 the USS Guardian had to be taken apart to remove it from a reef in the Philippines.
Banks said the divers had not discovered yet if any live coral was damaged when the ship struck.
"The safety of the civilian crew members and the environment are our top priorities. So we're taking this situation very seriously and will continue to investigate the situation until it's resolved," Cmdr. William Marks said Thursday.
More than 30 Philippine police commandos have been killed in a clash with fighters from the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) while hunting a top criminal suspect in the country's south, a local official has said.
Tahirudin Benzar Ampatuan, the mayor of Mamasapano, town told the AP news agency that dozens of police special action force members entered the village of Tukanalipao at dawn on Sunday to capture a bombing suspect.
As they entered the village, the police encountered and clashed with the MILF fighters in exchanges which lasted for 12 hours, the mayor said.
Ampatuan said some villagers entered the scene of the battle after the fighting subsided and retrieved at least five of the dead.
It was the biggest single-day combat loss for Philippine forces in many years.
The MILF, the largest rebel group in the south, accepted an autonomy offer from the government in March 2014, ending 45 years of conflict in which 120,000 people were killed and two million displaced.
Under the deal, brokered by Malaysia, the fighters were to surrender their weapons and disband after the government had set up a new autonomous government in the south and granted the Muslim minority wider economic and political power.
According to other sources 27 confirmed dead, 7 more police officers were unaccounted for and a further eight captured by MILF The death toll could reach 50 people, most of them from the police, the army sources said.
RIP..
This post has been edited by KYPMbangi: Jan 26 2015, 06:54 AM
[AJZ] According to other sources 27 confirmed dead, 7 more police officers were unaccounted for and a further eight captured by MILF The death toll could reach 50 people, most of them from the police, the army sources said.
RIP..
Byk aku curi post ko ni...... merata aku post. Suka2 aku je kan.....
we should be looking for something like medium 60-80km range SAM, i dont know what the best maybe patriot or samp/it while S300 would be to much nanti neighbor bising
According to other sources 27 confirmed dead, 7 more police officers were unaccounted for and a further eight captured by MILF The death toll could reach 50 people, most of them from the police, the army sources said.
RIP..
i dont understand why philippines dont ask US for help on this u know there alot of militant in phillipines and they claim US their best friend, maybe US not interested with phillipines internal problem but interested with middle east internal problem, u know the benefit u can get in middle east
This post has been edited by hafizushi: Jan 26 2015, 10:33 AM
we should be looking for something like medium 60-80km range SAM, i dont know what the best maybe patriot or samp/it while S300 would be to much nanti neighbor bising
S-300 can launch both long range and medium range missile from a same complex.
we should be looking for something like medium 60-80km range SAM, i dont know what the best maybe patriot or samp/it while S300 would be to much nanti neighbor bising
lol yup.. maybe only mid-range sam but certainly not s300 on sepanggar, nanti brunei mintak balik blackhawk pulak or they could get the skyguard and be done with it
Teluk Sepanggar Naval Base To Get Advanced Air Defence System - Hishammuddin
KOTA KINABALU, Jan 25 (Bernama) -- The Royal Malaysian Navy (TLDM) base in Teluk Sepanggar here will be equipped with an advanced air defence system to combat future threats and challenges.
Defence Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein said the move was in line with rapid technological developments and the needs of TLDM to handle the current scenario in South China Sea and eastern Sabah waters.
"In this context, it is aimed at ensuring our base is safe. Whatever the defence system, it will be determined later," he told reporters after visiting and inspecting the development of the Kota Kinabalu TLDM base in Teluk Sepanggar here, today.
He said the plan was one of the efforts to upgrade the base comprehensively against any threats, especially in the waters of the state.
However, he said any upgrade and additional national defence assets would depend on the country's economic capability, political situation and potential threats.
Apart from that, Hishammuddin said the Scorpene submarine refit infrastructure under construction at the base was 12 per cent completed and according to schedule.
He said the infrastructure, encompassing the construction of three main workshops for the maintenance of submarine equipment and storage, was expected to reduce the cost of maintenance of the country's two submarines, KD Tunku Abdul Rahman and KD Tun Razak.
"There will be periodic maintenance to ensure the submarines operate to the maximum duration of 35 years, which will be carried out by the government with the cooperation of Boustead DCNS Naval Corporation Sdn Bhd," he said.
The Kota Kinabalu TLDM base, built in 2001 comprises the Naval Region II headquarters and the submarine base headquarters and enjoys close cooperation with Brunei and the Philippines through annual exercises.
The base also serves a port of call for for several foreign ships from the United States, Australia, Brunei, France, Japan, Singapore and India.
Hishamuddin today concluded his three-day working visit to Sabah to look into the preparedness of security forces especially in the Eastern Sabah Security Zone (ESSZone).
advance air defense ? now im confused .. we boosting our assets in east sabah not only for pilaks izzit? all sifu here minta pencerahan please. there is ''elephant in the room'' i guess...
LTZ
china got new base very nearby... so go figures
i think essom is more like secondary obective.. the obvious china base is more pressing
QUOTE(hafizushi @ Jan 26 2015, 10:22 AM)
we should be looking for something like medium 60-80km range SAM, i dont know what the best maybe patriot or samp/it while S300 would be to much nanti neighbor bising
s300 is old system.. s400 better since s500 aleady in production
QUOTE(wanvadder @ Jan 26 2015, 10:29 AM)
nak sumpit apa dengan S-300?
I believe we should get something quality, and affordable in quantity, so that we can spam if required
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 26 2015, 06:52 AM)
Dozens of police commandos killed in Philippines
[AJZ] According to other sources 27 confirmed dead, 7 more police officers were unaccounted for and a further eight captured by MILF The death toll could reach 50 people, most of them from the police, the army sources said.
RIP..
I hear to graduate the saf course is to go on test mission, face the enemy then come back alive
lol yup.. maybe only mid-range sam but certainly not s300 on sepanggar, nanti brunei mintak balik blackhawk pulak or they could get the skyguard and be done with it
If s300 can cover brunei airspace... i think they would be more than happy..
It obvious they are relying on us for defence help also.
It been hinted also several time also
QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 26 2015, 10:50 AM)
The problem is.. sepanggar aje ke? lumut di anak tirikan.. kesian..
Lumut still far away.. i more concern on our air force base at kelantan. Anyway military operation obvious is to take our their air force base 1st.. no plane basically sky dominance for enemy.
If s300 can cover brunei airspace... i think they would be more than happy..
It obvious they are relying on us for defence help also.
It been hinted also several time also Lumut still far away.. i more concern on our air force base at kelantan. Anyway military operation obvious is to take our their air force base 1st.. no plane basically sky dominance for enemy.
Tat time even ship are sitting ducks
remember mou at the end maybe will get LY-80 SAM defense system .
This post has been edited by waja2000: Jan 26 2015, 11:34 AM
remember mou at the end maybe will get LY-80 SAM defense system .
Well.. i would say depends..
I managed to talk to some atm buddy.. they say they would like to avoid china stuff as much as possible.. any future confrontation sure would be china.. u nak pakai benda ya mereka buat?
Baik aku beli benda russia or murica biarpun mahal. Again that their view lah... the one tat make final decision is always our gomen.. tat why if china no tender, atm would be very happy because compared to other system china sure will offer the cheapest..
and tis alone will get the top political leader open eyes.. get cheapest can already.. good enough no need get expensive one
I managed to talk to some atm buddy.. they say they would like to avoid china stuff as much as possible.. any future confrontation sure would be china.. u nak pakai benda ya mereka buat?
Baik aku beli benda russia or murica biarpun mahal. Again that their view lah... the one tat make final decision is always our gomen.. tat why if china no tender, atm would be very happy because compared to other system china sure will offer the cheapest..
and tis alone will get the top political leader open eyes.. get cheapest can already.. good enough no need get expensive one
Go for korean or taiwan missile, I dunno the price but they sure be happy to do business with us
I managed to talk to some atm buddy.. they say they would like to avoid china stuff as much as possible.. any future confrontation sure would be china.. u nak pakai benda ya mereka buat?
Baik aku beli benda russia or murica biarpun mahal. Again that their view lah... the one tat make final decision is always our gomen.. tat why if china no tender, atm would be very happy because compared to other system china sure will offer the cheapest..
and tis alone will get the top political leader open eyes.. get cheapest can already.. good enough no need get expensive one
well no so enmity to china .... Indo/Thailand also use china defense product .... our army also use FN-6 china product some is good and cheap. reduce cost procurement and operation cost S-300 each set cost usd 500 milion with 16 missile. S-400 expected around usd 800 million per-set， how much we can buy? what can do with 16-32 missile. defense missile is burn money and consumption war, unless can keep big quantity like 100~200 pcs missile, if not no make different. we do more relationship with china, which can help more to develop the country.
This post has been edited by waja2000: Jan 26 2015, 12:05 PM
bcoz vietnam surrounding neighbors tak sama macam malaysia. u know la our neighbor .. baru kita bina lighthouse they want war already. when sabah sarawak join malaysia last time those two country already bising. 1 of them even serang kita.
Tu memang indo political gimmick for years
Want gain voters? Ganyang malaysia.. hidup indon.. burn malaysia flag.. throw shit to embassy.
But they know.. if they lay a hand on us, they will sure kena from others. We just a silent dog tak nak buat problem. Bising bising lah.. we just silently obliged asal tak gigit can ad. Bark all u want
Pinoy... is all bark but langsung no bite to back up
Thailand? Tat one is lalang maximun.. not to my benefit.. no neeed support
Singapore. Can say it maybe our closest ally unlike wat others always describe. Want military hardware who to benchmark? Singapore la..
QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 26 2015, 11:53 AM)
Korea yes, taiwan no Korea I think their deal usually involves "you must buy in XX quantity" style
Korea benda mahal... bukan murah pun k2 black panther my favourite is one good example. Canggih but expensive like shit satu biji plus still canot full production because mtu problem
If we buy taiwan.. i can see prc official.. one eyebrow naik already
Want gain voters? Ganyang malaysia.. hidup indon.. burn malaysia flag.. throw shit to embassy.
But they know.. if they lay a hand on us, they will sure kena from others. We just a silent dog tak nak buat problem. Bising bising lah.. we just silently obliged asal tak gigit can ad. Bark all u want
Pinoy... is all bark but langsung no bite to back up
Thailand? Tat one is lalang maximun.. not to my benefit.. no neeed support
Singapore. Can say it maybe our closest ally unlike wat others always describe. Want military hardware who to benchmark? Singapore la.. Korea benda mahal... bukan murah pun k2 black panther my favourite is one good example. Canggih but expensive like shit satu biji plus still canot full production because mtu problem
If we buy taiwan.. i can see prc official.. one eyebrow naik already
K2 is already in full production, the transmission problems already solved
KSAM is more like Vena missile system and they cost less because South Korean order them in large number already
well no so enmity to china .... Indo/Thailand also use china defense product .... our army also use FN-6 china product some is good and cheap. reduce cost procurement and operation cost S-300 each set cost usd 500 milion with 16 missile. S-400 expected around usd 800 million per-set， how much we can buy? what can do with 16-32 missile. defense missile is burn money and consumption war, unless can keep big quantity like 100~200 pcs missile, if not no make different. we do more relationship with china, which can help more to develop the country.
Small arm deal just to please china only
Our relationship with china is a complex one compared to others country..
Like singapore.. it purely economic relationship
Like vietnam and pinoy.. it purely confrontation
We pulak sit in between.. we need china economic might but we dont want china snooping around our waters
China also the same. They value our relationship but they also want expend their influence especially in sea. In vietnam and pinoy case.. it simple, just direct confrontation
In our case.. they have to account past relationship. That why both china n malaysia have not been vocal of each others but at each back side preparing a dagger to stab each others when either one made the wrong move.
K2 is already in full production, the transmission problems already solved
KSAM is more like Vena missile system and they cost less because South Korean order them in large number already
The problem was their locally made transmission system. Gears fitting and break not working properly
For now.. they buy german mtu like the one used in our pt91m for initial production. Not fully solved but rather to please the public because of the balloning cost of the K2 program. One of the most expensive tanks
In back scene.. they still want to use their own local mtu and are stilling trying the solve the problem.
Turkey cleaver.. buy their design but put german mtu inside straight. No need headache, only later delevop their own mtu
Revealed: France has deployed over 8,000 troops in Africa (apparently without nobody noticing)
French troops conducting a patrol in a town in the CAR (Central African Republic)
France has played a pivotal — and at times unilateral — role in tackling extremism and civil unrest throughout sub-Saharan Africa.
This role is aided by France’s history of colonialism in Africa. Although a painful aspect of modern French history, the often-brutal and exploitative colonial project left France with a network of major military bases across the continent that survives into the present day.
France currently runs operation Barkhane and Operation Sangaris. The numbers of troops involved are as below:
Also there are permanent French garrisons in these countries: Guinea Gulf: 300 troops Ivory Coast: 450 troops Djibouti: 1900 troops Gabon: 900 troops Senegal: 300 troops
- Apparently it's a 200-men operation to detain some wanted individuals from a MILF base with arrest warrant - The operation is not coordinated with other security forces, resulting in the lack of armoured transport or air support - The MILF base not expecting the SAF approach beforehand thought they were under attack - The MILF retaliates with BIFF insurgents joining the fight later, against the SAF - BIFF spokesman says they have captured around 20 SAF operatives, killing around 100 others
Go for korean or taiwan missile, I dunno the price but they sure be happy to do business with us
Taiwan also have a parallel claim to South China Sea. I think tacitly, in the matter of territorial dispute, Taiwan also support PRC since they both in theory is the same country.
- Apparently it's a 200-men operation to detain some wanted individuals from a MILF base with arrest warrant - The operation is not coordinated with other security forces, resulting in the lack of armoured transport or air support - The MILF base not expecting the SAF approach beforehand thought they were under attack - The MILF retaliates with BIFF insurgents joining the fight later, against the SAF - BIFF spokesman says they have captured around 20 SAF operatives, killing around 100 others
major fubar I'd say
Ridiculously amateurish. I wonder if Pinoy police never have heard of a device called a telephone. This would be so funny if doesn't involve lost lives.
This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jan 26 2015, 01:24 PM
- Apparently it's a 200-men operation to detain some wanted individuals from a MILF base with arrest warrant - The operation is not coordinated with other security forces, resulting in the lack of armoured transport or air support - The MILF base not expecting the SAF approach beforehand thought they were under attack - The MILF retaliates with BIFF insurgents joining the fight later, against the SAF - BIFF spokesman says they have captured around 20 SAF operatives, killing around 100 others
major fubar I'd say
So called battle hardened, most experienced and the best soldier in asean, lolwut
- Recovery operation underway under a ceasefire agreement - 49 bodies retrieved so far - 10 more SAF members were reported missing - 20 SAF members reported to survive the carnage
PNP recovers 49 bodies of slain cops
Philippine police commandos unload body bags containing the remains of their comrades killed in a clash with Muslim rebels in Maguindanao on Sunday, January 25
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MANILA, Philippines— The Philippine National Police recovered 49 bodies of slain members of the Special Action Force (SAF) in Maguindanao, according to the regional police headquarters of the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (ARMM).
In a text message sent to reporters Monday, January 26, the operations center of the PNP-ARMM said that as of 11:54 am on Monday, the “actual body count of PNP SAF [killed[ is 49.”
The report added: “The cadavers were brought to 6th ID, PA headquarters, for proper disposition,” referring to the headquarters of the Army's 6th infantry division in Cotatato City.
Military sources said that 10 more SAF members were reported missing.
American soldiers based in Cotabato under a Philippine-US defense agreement assisted Philippine troops in carrying the dead and the wounded.
The Sunday, January 25, clash tested a nearly one-year-old peace accord between the Aquino government and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front. An MILF spokesman earlier said they suffered 5 casualties.
Policemen load body bags containing the remains of their comrades killed in a clash with Muslim rebels onto a truck in the town of Mamasapano
US soldiers help their Philippine counterparts during retrieval operations on Monday, January 26, in Maguindanao
Long/Medium Range - S-400/Patriot/BUK-M2/SAMP-T Short Range - Jernas/ADATS/Pantsir(missile) Very Short range - Stinger/Starstreak/Igla Point defence - Skyshield/Pantsir (guns)
Jernas is a shorads, so can considered as point defence ( alongside manpads/AAA). for long range we have Su-30MKM and whatever is going to replace the MiGs.
Long/Medium Range - S-400/Patriot/BUK-M2/SAMP-T Short Range - Jernas/ADATS/Pantsir(missile) Very Short range - Stinger/Starstreak/Igla Point defence - Skyshield/Pantsir (guns)
one fourmmer mentioned about our actual air defence plan before our financial crisis threw the plan away. According to him, this was what they (armed force) envisioned for our national air defence system
very short range- various manpad (actually already completed) Short range - pantsir ( we are interested and wanted to join in the development. When we bought our MIGs, we were asked by russian if we are interested) Medium range - buk system ( or medium range missile on s300) long range - s300 system (could come later but idea was to equid it with medium range first and long range upgrade later on)
Iiinm vietnam also did theirs like tis.. lower initial purchase cost.. and when need to upgrade, just buy more launcher and long range missile. Actually no need launcher, just new long range missile canister
why all russian? Well before 1997 financial, if we were to ask for patriot from US. They would definitely not sell to us partially because of Mahathir also European weapon industry have not matured
This post has been edited by thpace: Jan 26 2015, 03:26 PM
Jernas is a shorads, so can considered as point defence ( alongside manpads/AAA). for long range we have Su-30MKM and whatever is going to replace the MiGs.
What we're looking for is Medium range SAM
The problem with Fighter aircraft is that, they require runway which is a big and vulnerable target, and they required like 45 minutes on average after warning to finally take off. Even a fully armed and fueled QR still require 15 minutes. SAM only take at most 5 minutes to power up their targeting radar. Fighter is good against large group of attacking aircraft as their combine radar signature is large, and the coordination of a large group of aircraft require a lot of radio communication that we can easily intercept. So we have plenty of advance warning. But for lone low level infiltrator that may pop-up suddenly close to the target, Missile is still the best option.
The problem with Fighter aircraft is that, they require runway which is a big and vulnerable target, and they required like 45 minutes on average after warning to finally take off. Even a fully armed and fueled QR still require 15 minutes. SAM only take at most 5 minutes to power up their targeting radar. Fighter is good against large group of attacking aircraft as their combine radar signature is large, and the coordination of a large group of aircraft require a lot of radio communication that we can easily intercept. So we have plenty of advance warning. But for lone low level infiltrator that may pop-up suddenly close to the target, Missile is still the best option.
I dun where you get the time figure. but it all wrong.
Revealed: France has deployed over 8,000 troops in Africa (apparently without nobody noticing)
French troops conducting a patrol in a town in the CAR (Central African Republic)
France has played a pivotal — and at times unilateral — role in tackling extremism and civil unrest throughout sub-Saharan Africa.
This role is aided by France’s history of colonialism in Africa. Although a painful aspect of modern French history, the often-brutal and exploitative colonial project left France with a network of major military bases across the continent that survives into the present day.
France currently runs operation Barkhane and Operation Sangaris. The numbers of troops involved are as below:
Also there are permanent French garrisons in these countries: Guinea Gulf: 300 troops Ivory Coast: 450 troops Djibouti: 1900 troops Gabon: 900 troops Senegal: 300 troops
french foreign legion?
QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 26 2015, 01:00 PM)
PH SAF massacre update (mostly from fb sos)
- Apparently it's a 200-men operation to detain some wanted individuals from a MILF base with arrest warrant - The operation is not coordinated with other security forces, resulting in the lack of armoured transport or air support - The MILF base not expecting the SAF approach beforehand thought they were under attack - The MILF retaliates with BIFF insurgents joining the fight later, against the SAF - BIFF spokesman says they have captured around 20 SAF operatives, killing around 100 others
I dun where you get the time figure. but it all wrong.
Unless you have a plane fueled and armed at the end of the runway, then 45 minutes is the reasonable timeframe. If you have plane fueled and armed at the end of the runway, then they may be launch as early as 5 minutes. But 15 minutes is a more reasonable time. It may take several minutes to strapped a pilot into the seat, and Fighter start up procedure will take several minutes. Unless of course you have a pilot strapped in the cockpit 24 hours a day.
Unless you have a plane fueled and armed at the end of the runway, then 45 minutes is the reasonable timeframe. If you have plane fueled and armed at the end of the runway, then they may be launch as early as 5 minutes. But 15 minutes is a more reasonable time. It may take several minutes to strapped a pilot into the seat, and Fighter start up procedure will take several minutes. Unless of course you have a pilot strapped in the cockpit 24 hours a day.
There is always few aircraft fully loaded, fueled and standby in the hangar. The rough estimation it took the aircraft on standby flying is less than 5 minutes probably within 3 minutes. The exact time is under osa anyway. There is also combat air patrol in the sky. And yes if in crisis time you will see pilot standby in the cockpit.
This post has been edited by yinchet: Jan 26 2015, 04:24 PM
one fourmmer mentioned about our actual air defence plan before our financial crisis threw the plan away. According to him, this was what they (armed force) envisioned for our national air defence system
very short range- various manpad (actually already completed) Short range - pantsir ( we are interested and wanted to join in the development. When we bought our MIGs, we were asked by russian if we are interested) Medium range - buk system ( or medium range missile on s300) long range - s300 system (could come later but idea was to equid it with medium range first and long range upgrade later on)
Iiinm vietnam also did theirs like tis.. lower initial purchase cost.. and when need to upgrade, just buy more launcher and long range missile. Actually no need launcher, just new long range missile canister
why all russian? Well before 1997 financial, if we were to ask for patriot from US. They would definitely not sell to us partially because of Mahathir also European weapon industry have not matured
other alternative if you not fond of about Chinese system
EuroSAMPT with Aster 30 or Chu SAM Type 03 with her AESA radar
Looks like a huge operation after all, 392 cops were involved in the operation initially
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PNP probes Maguindanao ‘misencounter’
The PNP says at least 392 Special Action Force cops were involved in the operation
Deputy Director General Leonardo Espina, acting PNP chief, said at least 392 SAF members were involved in the operation. The elite cops were plucked from other areas in Mindanao such as in General Santos City and other Cotabato provinces, Espina said.
Macai like that la, anything gov do always wrong. Opposing for the sake of opposing, while contributing zero to actual governance.
very lucky here in lowyat forum ...... not sure u know or not other local forum (military section) two pro and cons macai gaduh in forum sampai make "polisi" report .... at than all pro macai leave forum ...
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In short with current dollar US to Rupiah value, Indonesia government for the next five year will allocate around 37.6 Billion US dollar for procurement programme
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ANGGARAN PERTAHANAN: Menhan Ryamizard Ryacudu Usulkan Tambahan Dana Rp5,1 Triliun
Kementerian Pertahanan mengajukan tambahan Rp5,1 triliun dalam Rancangan Anggaran Pendapatan dan Belanja Negara Perubahan (RAPBN-P) 2015 dari anggaran sebelumnya Rp96,6 triliun.
Hal itu diungkap Menteri Pertahanan Ryamizard Ryacudu dalam agenda rapat dengar pendapat dengan Komisi I DPR.
"Itu penambahan anggaran untuk 2015 yang dipaparkan Pak Menteri. Adapun dalam rencana strategis , Kemhan menganggarkan Rp417 triliun dibagi dalam 5 tahun," ujar Tantowi Yahya, Wakil Ketua Komisi I DPR RI.[I]
Penambahan itu, jelas Tantowi, untuk menopang pencapaian alat utama sistem pertahanan (alutsista) sesuai dengan standar minimum essential force (MEF) atau standar minimum negara mampu melakukan tindakan pertahanan.
"Itu hanya untuk mencapai 60% minimum essential force," kata Tantowi, di Kompleks Gedung Parlemen, Senin (26/1/2015).
Sebelumnya, Letnan Jenderal TNI Ediwan Prabowo, Sekretaris Jenderal Kemhan pernah menjelaskan, dalam pemenuhan belanja alutsista itu mengacu pada MEF, alutsista Indonesia baru mencapai 38% dari yang ditargetkan MEF. Adapun MEF 40% dari ideal.
"Meski demikian, anggaran itu akan disesuaikan dengan program pemerintah dengan mengacu skala prioritas."
Untuk Alokasi belanja pegawai, tetap akan ada di TNI AD karena jumlah personel yang besar.
"Adapun untuk alat utama sistem pertahanan (alutsista), Kemhan akan mengintegrasikan mulai dari pengadaan alutsista TNI AD, TNI AL, dan TNI AU," katanya.
Dalam pengadaan alutsista itu, jelasnya, TNI AU dan TNI AL akan mendapatkan porsi anggaran yang lebih besar menyusul mahalnya peralatan yang ada dalam shopping list Kemhan.
Misalnya, TNI AL a.l. menganggarkan pembelian dua unit kapal selam dari Korea Selatan yang saat ini satu unit sudah mencapai 60%, satu lagi masih akan mulai dibangun.
"Selanjutnya, TNI AL akan difokuskan untuk pengembangan produk dalam negeri," ujarnya.
Adapun untuk TNI AU, a.l. masih akan dianggarkan peremajaan skuadron F-5 Tiger.
“Namun, belum diputuskan mau mengganti dengan pesawat jenis apa. Yang jelas, kemampuannya lebih bagus dari F-5 Tiger,” kata Ediwan.
i means later in kopitian later will have fully of people comdam RMAF/Gov, "tak boleh terbang" topic haha
German one was not equip with paratrooping equipments because want to meet delivery date Now, can only do cargo lifting
I not sure how ours going to be.. airbus notorious for having problem. I not sure why we are even buying more from them. Even our ec725 does not come problem free
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other alternative if you not fond of about Chinese system
EuroSAMPT with Aster 30 or Chu SAM Type 03 with her AESA radar
or Akash Missile System of India
If u want long range mobile missile defence.. only one name very synonymous in every arms market
The russian s-series missile defence system... s300 was so successful even russian didnt expect it. That why production just stop even though it a 80s design system. Murica still fear
what best, russian will sell it to anyone without restriction if you have the money
German one was not equip with paratrooping equipments because want to meet delivery date Now, can only do cargo lifting
I not sure how ours going to be.. airbus notorious for having problem. I not sure why we are even buying more from them. Even our ec725 does not come problem free If u want long range mobile missile defence.. only one name very synonymous in every arms market
The russian s-series missile defence system... s300 was so successful even russian didnt expect it. That why production just stop even though it a 80s design system. Murica still fear
what best, russian will sell it to anyone without restriction if you have the money
I am agree with that, S-300 is AK-47 in Long Range SAM world, but the cost is expensive two brigade will costing about 1,1 billion US dollar right now
anyway thanks indo for so much budget, create arm race in asean. maybe good side effect to Mindaf for RMK11 budget, malaysia RMK-11 got usd 10 billions already very good. hope fully get 12-15 billion our land much small than indo. 12-15 billion will be fine.
depends lar. thats purely for acquisition budget or include with overhead budget. right now i'd prefer if MAF try to close the obvious hole in our capability rather than trying to introduce new one. besides we shouldnt compare with indon anyway.
German one was not equip with paratrooping equipments because want to meet delivery date Now, can only do cargo lifting
I not sure how ours going to be.. airbus notorious for having problem. I not sure why we are even buying more from them. Even our ec725 does not come problem free If u want long range mobile missile defence.. only one name very synonymous in every arms market
The russian s-series missile defence system... s300 was so successful even russian didnt expect it. That why production just stop even though it a 80s design system. Murica still fear
what best, russian will sell it to anyone without restriction if you have the money
our one more like also same. production MSN07~014 only with version 1.0 spec means OIC spec, from MSN 15 (first UK version) until no mention is 1.5 Spec , no news Airbus start production A400M version 2 spec. our MSN022 still version 1.5 spec. late this year RMAF MSN 026-027 possible getting version 2 spec. our one include refuel module should be also not active module yet. all A400M expected getting version 3.0 spec which full capability spec estimated 2018. all A400M delivery before version 3 will getting re-trofit/upgrade (include software upgrade) in 2018~2020.
The russian s-series missile defence system... s300 was so successful even russian didnt expect it. That why production just stop even though it a 80s design system. Murica still fear
what best, russian will sell it to anyone without restriction if you have the money
our sentiment, for time being is hard to buy missile from Russia ..... "buy missile from country which missile kill our rakyat (Mh17) .or "buy missile to kill more plane (you know).... " i dont think gov want get this blame
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anyway thanks indo for so much budget, create arm race in asean. maybe good side effect to Mindaf for RMK11 budget, malaysia RMK-11 got usd 10 billions already very good. hope fully get 12-15 billion our land much small than indo. 12-15 billion will be fine.
Thanks to Malaysia too....for making Indonesia wakes up from slumber
There was unconfirmed report that TNI-AD Leopard 2RI (MBT Revolution) as seen from this scale model below currently is undergoing test trials in Germany and the 1st delivery schedule in March. Any confirmation?
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Boustead Naval Shipyard Recovers KD Perantau
By , Group Corporate Communications, Boustead Heavy Industries Corporation Berhad
LUMUT, 26 January 2015 – At approximately 1130 hours today, the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) hydrographic survey vessel, KD Perantau, was successfully transferred to the Synchrolift at Boustead Naval Shipyard Sdn Bhd (BNS) and raised above water.
With the recovery of the ship, preservation and refit work on KD Perantau has recommenced, and every effort will be made to deliver the vessel in line with the original schedule.
BHIC Managing Director, Tan Sri Ahmad Ramli Mohd Nor, said: “I am pleased the recovery efforts on KD Perantau have been completed. We are grateful for the support and collaboration of the Royal Malaysian Navy throughout this exercise.”
our sentiment, for time being is hard to buy missile from Russia ..... "buy missile from country which missile kill our rakyat (Mh17) .or "buy missile to kill more plane (you know).... " i dont think gov want get this blame
buk was already in short list for medium range air defence when this happens
even if russian purchase were to made.. i am sure it will be discreet
There was unconfirmed report that TNI-AD Leopard 2RI (MBT Revolution) as seen from this scale model below currently is undergoing test trials in Germany and the 1st delivery schedule in March. Any confirmation?
(credit to azravadila)
TNI-AD ordered 61 units Leopard RI....Kadispen TNI-AD reported that the shipment will extend to 2016....for 2016, about 58 vehicles will be shipped. So, at least TNI-AD will receive 3 Leopard RI this year.
our sentiment, for time being is hard to buy missile from Russia ..... "buy missile from country which missile kill our rakyat (Mh17) .or "buy missile to kill more plane (you know).... " i dont think gov want get this blame
Wah, like that throw away all 5.56mm ammo la, because used to kill the soldiers at Lahad Datu. Idiots....
Wah, like that throw away all 5.56mm ammo la, because used to kill the soldiers at Lahad Datu. Idiots....
dont have to be tat harsh.. even if we were to purchase russian sam, i am sure it will be discreet. SAM system is not something every nation like to show around
I am agree with that, S-300 is AK-47 in Long Range SAM world, but the cost is expensive two brigade will costing about 1,1 billion US dollar right now
depending on missile package i would say
Vietnam bought medium range missile canister first then only upgrade to long range cannister
the radar was bought upgraded from Ukraine stock
i dont think it tat expensive..Past Iran now cancelled deal for five S-300 missile batteries was only $800 million.. That was without missiles package yet i guess.. but again 1.1Billion for 2 batteries is far over estimate. If that so expensive, vietnam would even be able to afford it
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depends lar. thats purely for acquisition budget or include with overhead budget. right now i'd prefer if MAF try to close the obvious hole in our capability rather than trying to introduce new one. besides we shouldnt compare with indon anyway.
It will be outside of Yearly budget in which almost all of them goes to salary, remuneration, acquisitions of expendable stuff like rifles and munitions, clothes, tactical and daily operational vehicles for officer and so on.....
Strategic budgets means that including maintenance, support logistics, building new base or store and training crew for the stuff itself. They cost a lot, more so than the toys itself.
no worries, Navy just want to added 40 Patrol Craft 60 meter class to patrolling some water in Indonesia EEZ, maybe not much shiny stuff this period, only more patrol vessels/aircraft, radar and logistic ships/aircraft
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Vietnam bought medium range missile canister first then only upgrade to long range cannister
the radar was bought upgraded from Ukraine stock
i dont think it tat expensive..Past Iran now cancelled deal for five S-300 missile batteries was only $800 million.. That was without missiles package yet i guess.. but again 1.1Billion for 2 batteries is far over estimate. If that so expensive, vietnam would even be able to afford it
I am not talking for batteries but Brigade, one Brigade comprises of several batteries. 1,1 billion for two Brigade expensive lah
Azriel, i am not an appropriate person to talking about Leopard2 procurement progress, my guess is maybe same with you. Everything based on news in media and some first hand person who know the deal
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Rafael’s SPICE (Smart, Precise Impact, Cost Effective) air-to-surface precision guided glide bomb family has been significantly reinforced recently with the addition of the new SPICE-250, reports today Israel Defense. Unlike previous models in this category, which offered a smart conversion kit for Mk-83 and Mk-84 general purpose bombs, the SPICE-250 offers a complete solution with a 250 pound (100 kg) warhead to a range of 100 km.
Rafael’s SPICE (Smart, Precise Impact, Cost Effective) air-to-surface precision guided glide bomb family has been significantly reinforced recently with the addition of the new SPICE-250, reports today Israel Defense. Unlike previous models in this category, which offered a smart conversion kit for Mk-83 and Mk-84 general purpose bombs, the SPICE-250 offers a complete solution with a 250 pound (100 kg) warhead to a range of 100 km. Rafael SPICE-250 air-to-surface precision guided glide bomb
The new bomb is offered with a range of warheads for various missions, such as destroying lightly-fortified bunkers, SSM and SAM batteries, vehicles or radar stations. The SPICE-250 will be showcased for the first time at the Aero India 2015 exhibition.
“The SPICE-250 is a new product in Rafael’s series of air-to-surface glide bombs that revolutionizes the field,” explains Yuval Miller, Rafael’s EVP and Head of the Air & C4ISR Systems Division. “The new munition brings two primary advantages to the series: the ability to handle mobile targets, and the Smart-Quad-Rack feature, which enables an aircraft to carry multiple munitions. An F-16 fighter can carry 16 munitions and an F-15 fighter can carry 28 munitions. This is an actual revolution in this field.”
The era of warfare that combines reduced defense budgets, targets with a short life cycle and a mode of combat that is mainly asymmetrical and involves multiple small targets has presented IAF with contradicting challenges. On the one hand, the number of flight hours must be reduced and new platforms must be acquired. On the other hand, the number of targets is increasing and the timeframe for engaging and killing each target is shrinking. This complexity provides the background against which the advantages of the SPICE-250 stand out. “In the past, a fighter aircraft had to cover a long distance and eventually release two munitions which did not always hit their targets. Now we have fighter aircraft that can destroy close to 30 targets in a single pass. A formation of four F-15 fighters can carry more than 100 munitions on a mission. This changes the way air power is employed. In fact, we are breaking the paradigm regarding the effectiveness of a sorties,” says Miller.
The only competitors to Rafael’s SPICE-250 are manufactured primarily by US industries, with Raytheon and Boeing developing similar munitions under the brand name Small Diameter Bomb. The people at Rafael are not overly concerned about it. “The only munitions capable of competing with ours are the models the Americans have developed. Our product does it all in a single munition. They need two models to accomplish the same,” concludes Miller.
The SPICE-250, like the other models in the series, operates using an internal navigation mechanism (INS/GPS) and homing using image matching. This capability makes it immune to GPS jamming. This independence of GPS also reduces the margin of error owing to the use of coordinates conveyed to the munition. According to the image matching method, the munition homes on to a pixel – a technology regarded as more accurate. “Owing to the capabilities of the SPICE, it is extremely difficult to jam all of the munitions carried by the aircraft. Add the munition’s accuracy and the fact that it can operate during the day and night and under extreme weather conditions, and you will end up with a highly reliable weapon,” says Miller.
The ability of the SPICE-250 to engage mobile targets is a new world of content for the SPICE series of precision-guided munitions. The targets in question are leap-frogging elements that have a very short life-cycle, on land or at sea. The people at Rafael say that the SPICE-250 is a munition capable of handling the entire target spectrum. “The client knows that he acquires a single munition capable of handling almost any type of target. If effectiveness and budget savings are a consideration, than this is the recommended direction,” explains Miller. “The ability to handle mobile targets is made possible owing to image processing algorithms developed by Rafael and the communication channel the pilot has with the airborne munition, which enables him to update the targets while the munition is in flight.”
The advantages of the SPICE-250 notwithstanding, one should bear in mind the fact that in order to succeed globally, the new munition must be adapted to an extensive range of aircraft models. Unlike air-to-air missiles, the people at Rafael explain that the adaptation of air-to-surface munitions is simpler to accomplish. While an air-to-air missile has to synchronize with the carrying aircraft’s core systems, including synchronization with the pilot’s helmet, with air-to-surface munitions it is simpler.
The people at Rafael were able to tell us that the SPICE-250 is currently undergoing adaptation to F-16 and F-15 fighters in the IAF, and orders from several overseas clients have already been received. Additionally, Rafael is also aiming for the light strike aircraft market.
MADRID (Reuters) - Ten people were killed and 13 injured when a Greek fighter plane crashed during NATO training in Spain on Monday, the defence ministry said.
The F-16 plane crashed about 3:20 p.m (1420 GMT) as it took off at a training centre in Albacete, 260 km (160 miles) southeast of the capital Madrid.
"The plane, part of the Tactical Leadership Programme of NATO was carrying out a (training) exercise when during take-off the plane lost power, crashing into the parking area for planes, crashing into various planes that were parked there," the defence ministry said in a statement.
Two pilots on board were among the dead. Other pilots and mechanics were underneath the plane in the parking area when it crashed, Spanish media reported.
"I am deeply saddened," NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said in a statement.
"This is a tragedy which affects the whole NATO family. I express my heartfelt condolences to the loved ones and the nations of those who lost their lives, and I wish a speedy recovery to the injured."
(Reporting By Inmaculada Sanz and Emma Pinedo in Madrid; additional reporting by Adrian Croft in Brussels; Writing by Sarah Morris; Editing by Sarah White)
Photos emerging on social networks seem to suggest the aircraft may have hit the flightline: two Italian Air Force AMX jets seem to be quite close to the burning wreckage of the Greek two-seater F-16D. However, more aircraft are believed to be involved, since several explosions were heard following the impact of the HAF fighter jet.
K21? Expensive and it amphibious capability below par. having problems even on sea states 2.
tulpar look gooding on price tag usd1.5mil depending on configuration. Modular design and would be nice support for our mbt. I'm not looking to much on amphibious capabilities in these.
Prefer easier intergration of western tech and ncw function with av8. Pt-91 should not be hard to add in such network capability.
If the primary aim is full integration between vehicles like installation of compatible BMS system on APC and IFV....then Tulpar is the most ideal aternative.
Other characteristics, like amphibious capability can be less prioritized. Can't get everything....need to sacrifice something
If the primary aim is full integration between vehicles like installation of compatible BMS system on APC and IFV....then Tulpar is the most ideal aternative.
Other characteristics, like amphibious capability can be less prioritized. Can't get everything....need to sacrifice something
Full amphibious capabilities ifv can wait until our military officially establish marine and procure lpd ship.
Boeing Co., Mesa, Arizona was awarded a $295,866,116 firm-fixed-price foreign military sales (Indonesia) contract for eight AH64E Apache attack helicopters.
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ARMY
Boeing Co., Mesa, Arizona was awarded a $295,866,116 firm-fixed-price foreign military sales (Indonesia) contract for eight AH64E Apache attack helicopters. Work will be performed in Mesa, Arizona with an estimated completion date of Feb. 28, 2018. One bid was solicited with one received. Fiscal 2010 other procurement funds in the amount of $295,866,116 are being obligated at the time of the award. Army Contracting Command, Redstone Arsenal, Alabama is the contracting activity (W58RGZ-15-C-0025).
If the primary aim is full integration between vehicles like installation of compatible BMS system on APC and IFV....then Tulpar is the most ideal aternative.
Other characteristics, like amphibious capability can be less prioritized. Can't get everything....need to sacrifice something
I rather we do away with amphibious capability altogether in exchange for extra protection.
I dont think we going to buy russian aa complex no? WIth their support of the rebels in ukraine partly responsible to the downing of our aircraft some more. Maybe aster gbad? Can interchange the missile with our future ships no? hohoho.
I dont think we going to buy russian aa complex no? WIth their support of the rebels in ukraine partly responsible to the downing of our aircraft some more. Maybe aster gbad? Can interchange the missile with our future ships no? hohoho.
Will why not? Buk was already in short listed candidate for medium range system
It not confirm who shot down the aircraft. Both side have buk system placed within close proximity. The western media is blaming russia but so far produce no solid evidence.
The one they say is proved is a buk with one missle missing. But anyone also can take out a missle and claimed it been fired. One way to confirm is through satellite photo during the lauch. But russia and america should have tat capacity but both are not revealing.
Will why not? Buk was already in short listed candidate for medium range system
It not confirm who shot down the aircraft. Both side have buk system placed within close proximity. The western media is blaming russia but so far produce no solid evidence.
The one they say is proved is a buk with one missle missing. But anyone also can take out a missle and claimed it been fired. One way to confirm is through satellite photo during the lauch. But russia and america should have tat capacity but both are not revealing.
I know that, but if confirmed they will be bought asap, the timing isnt good. Sure we all know it shouldnt matter but malaysian like to hoo ha about this to the end of time. Hell even the submarine issue is still played out till today, who knows got crazies try to interview the family victims later.
In order to be amphibious, vehicle weight must not exceed certain limit. This mean's limited armor and limited firepower. Lack of amphibious capability can easily be rectified with the use of mobile bridges and crossing barges. But there's no way to rectify the lack of protection. Most amphibious armored vehicle have a thin armor which can be easily pierce by a shell fragments and 50 cal bullets. They are also vulnerable to RPG.
I know that, but if confirmed they will be bought asap, the timing isnt good. Sure we all know it shouldnt matter but malaysian like to hoo ha about this to the end of time. Hell even the submarine issue is still played out till today, who knows got crazies try to interview the family victims later.
Neh.. it was shortlisted together with pantsir system..come in package or so but it have not gone trial here. Therefore decision are still not made
Even if they hoo haa wat they can do once contract signed?
The only one will bising is the macai... want spotlight on them on even minor issues
The US government has formally awarded Boeing a contract to build eight AH-64E Apache attack helicopters for Indonesia.
The Department of Defense says in a statement that the “firm-fixed-price” foreign military sales (FMS) contract is valued at $296 million. The helicopters will be built in Mesa, Arizona, and are expected to be completed by February 2018.
US defence secretary Chuck Hagel announced the sale of eight Apaches to Indonesia in August 2013. That announcement came nearly one year after a notification to Congress a year earlier of the proposed FMS sale.
At that time, the total deal was valued at $1.4 billion and included the sale of four APG-78 Longbow fire control radars, an armaments package including 120 Lockheed Martin AGM-114 Hellfire air-to-ground missiles, plus a training and crew support package.
The helicopters are expected to be used by Indonesia’s military in counterpiracy and maritime awareness roles.
Will why not? Buk was already in short listed candidate for medium range system
It not confirm who shot down the aircraft. Both side have buk system placed within close proximity. The western media is blaming russia but so far produce no solid evidence.
The one they say is proved is a buk with one missle missing. But anyone also can take out a missle and claimed it been fired. One way to confirm is through satellite photo during the lauch. But russia and america should have tat capacity but both are not revealing.
do matter who is firing, at the end BUK missile still Russia product shot down jet. malaysian/politis will be hoo ha about this to the end of time..... even more bullet to hoo ha with mh17 (alot touching)
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do matter who is firing, at the end BUK missile still Russia product shot down jet. malaysian/politis will be hoo ha about this to the end of time..... even more bullet to hoo ha with mh17 (alot touching)
In order to be amphibious, vehicle weight must not exceed certain limit. This mean's limited armor and limited firepower. Lack of amphibious capability can easily be rectified with the use of mobile bridges and crossing barges. But there's no way to rectify the lack of protection. Most amphibious armored vehicle have a thin armor which can be easily pierce by a shell fragments and 50 cal bullets. They are also vulnerable to RPG.
CMIIW, we had tested some of BMP-3F before we bought it and they can stand against 14,5 AP munitions at 100 to 200 meter range.
BMP series isn't meant to withstand RPG fires....like most IFV, it should be able to resist autocannon fire on the frontal armor. BMP-3F is amphibious vehicle, so can't add thick armor on it. Slat armor will also compromise its amphibious performance.
Even M-60 tanks can be penetrated with RPG-7; we need level of protection provided by modern MBT to resist RPG fire.
Even so, modern RPG like RPG-29 can still shatter the armor of Abrams
BMP series isn't meant to withstand RPG fires....like most IFV, it should be able to resist autocannon fire on the frontal armor. BMP-3F is amphibious vehicle, so can't add thick armor on it. Slat armor will also compromise its amphibious performance.
Even M-60 tanks can be penetrated with RPG-7; we need level of protection provided by modern MBT to resist RPG fire.
Even so, modern RPG like RPG-29 can still shatter the armor of Abrams
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That's the point. If you look at recent conflict, a lot of modern armies such as US and Israel, sacrificed the amphibious capability of their amphibious armored vehicle in order to provide extra protection. And look at Bionix AFV developed by Singapore. It doesn't even have amphibious capability due to it's steel construction, which is stronger than aluminium.
That's the point. If you look at recent conflict, a lot of modern armies such as US and Israel, sacrificed the amphibious capability of their amphibious armored vehicle in order to provide extra protection. And look at Bionix AFV developed by Singapore. It doesn't even have amphibious capability due to it's steel construction, which is stronger than aluminium.
Doctrine also play a part in combat vehicle design. Russia anticipates a lot of river crossings in Eastern Europe, as the Red army did in WW2, so nearly all of their combat vehicles are amphibious.
From my observation, US military is still set up as a Desert Storm-like army to fight in wide open spaces, so they don't have a lot of need for amphibious vehicles, later wars in Iraq and Afghanistan also didn't involve river crossings or amphibious operations (its main amphibious vehicle,the AAV-7 is designed in the 1970s), so the concept of amphibious vehicle is more or less neglected in the US military (ironically even in the US Marines, the premier amphibious unit).
Israel also doesn't have the need to do any river crossings or amphibious operations, thus no amphibious vehicles. So there's that.
Doctrine also play a part in combat vehicle design. Russia anticipates a lot of river crossings in Eastern Europe, as the Red army did in WW2, so nearly all of their combat vehicles are amphibious.
From my observation, US military is still set up as a Desert Storm-like army to fight in wide open spaces, so they don't have a lot of need for amphibious vehicles, later wars in Iraq and Afghanistan also didn't involve river crossings or amphibious operations (its main amphibious vehicle,the AAV-7 is designed in the 1970s), so the concept of amphibious vehicle is more or less neglected in the US military (ironically even in the US Marines, the premier amphibious unit).
Israel also doesn't have the need to do any river crossings or amphibious operations, thus no amphibious vehicles. So there's that.
some countries just abandon the concept of amphibious vehicle like AAV or BMP series for amphibious assault operations and largely depend on bridge connector vehicle like LCAC and LCT to bring their weaponries ashore, some mix that concept and some simply because the lack of platform they still depend on amphibious vehicle like AAV or BMP to conduct amphibious assault operations.
just can cross river.. that also calm river or lake rough river sure sink like a lead ball
#truestory
only truly amphibious is avv, bmp3, k21 etc those designed to work from ground up to work on water
BTR series like BTR-80/82A/BTR-3U is fully amphibious and can withstand rough seas at sea state 2 maximum. Although the lacking of ramp door at the back is bane for any armies who using them in large numbers.......
BTR series like BTR-80/82A/BTR-3U is fully amphibious and can withstand rough seas at sea state 2 maximum. Although the lacking of ramp door at the back is bane for any armies who using them in large numbers.......
iinm btr was designed from ground up to work on water as part of the requirements. same as bmp
most modern one have only basic water crossing capabilities
Indonesia's defence minister requests USD400m defence budget boost
Jon Grevatt, Bangkok - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly 26 January 2015
Indonesia's Defence Minister Ryamizard Ryacudu has requested IDR5.1 trillion (USD409 million) to boost the country's 2015 defence budget, according to media reports in Indonesia.
The request was tabled during a meeting between Ryacudu and the House of Representatives committee on foreign affairs and defence, which took place on 26 January. While the Ministry of Defence in Jakarta confirmed that the meeting took place, it did not confirm the budget request.
However, reports said Ryacudu has requested the additional funding to support military procurement activities and replace some of the Indonesian Armed Force's (TNI's) ageing equipment.
Should additional funding be secured by the TNI it would take Indonesia's defence budget to more than IDR100 trillion.
Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha is pushing the military to more quickly draft its spending plans for the 2016 fiscal year and submit them within the month.
Air Force commander ACM Treetod Sonjance said the Defence Ministry, the Royal Thai Armed Forces Headquarters, the Royal Thai Army, the Royal Thai Navy and the Royal Thai Air Force are expected to prepare their budgets by mid-January.
He said Gen Prayut, who is also head of the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO), wants to see how the armed forces and other military units prioritise their spending.
The Royal Thai Air Force has no plan to procure new fighter jets in the next budget year, ACM Treetod said. It will focus on upgrades and maintenance instead.
Preliminary plans call for upgrades to the air force's fleet of F-5 jets at the Nakhon Sawan-based Wing 4 division. The aircraft have been in service for over 30 years.
A Defence Ministry source said the proposed defence spending is likely to be a little higher than the amount approved in 2015. It is estimated to be around 193 billion to 200 billion baht.
According to the source, the National Legislative Assembly (NLA) approved a defence budget of 192 billion baht, about 550 million baht lower than the proposed 193.49 billion baht.
Of this amount, the Office of the Defence Permanent Secretary received 7.771 billion baht, the Royal Thai Armed Forces Headquarters 14.77 billion baht, the Royal Thai Army 95.48 billion baht, the Royal Thai Navy 37.52 billion baht, and the Royal Thai Air Force 35.7 billion baht.
Defence spending for the 2014 fiscal year was estimated at 184 billion baht.
According to the source, the navy is likely to propose the procurement of two to three submarines.
The navy has been vetting submarines from various countries including South Korea, China, Russia and France. South Korea's U-209 model is said to be the least expensive at 11 billion baht apiece.
Defence Minister Prawit Wongsuwon has backed the submarine purchase in principle, saying he was ready to support the navy's plan to develop its capacity if there was enough money to go around.
The source said the army is likely to propose the procurement of helicopters for general use under a budget of 2.8 billion baht. About 30 UH-1H (Huey) helicopters will be decommissioned. The US-made UH-72 (Lakota) aircraft is said to be on the army's wish list.
The army also has a plan to purchase a transporter aircraft under a budget of 1.25 billion baht. Ukraine's Antonov-30 and Spain's CN-295 are said to be at the top of the list. Meanwhile, ACM Treetod said an air force committee is working on choosing a new fleet of training aircraft to replace the L-39 model.
The air force has allocated 3.7 billion baht in the 2015 budget to procure a new fleet of training aircraft to replace the L-39 aircraft manufactured by the Czech Republic.
There are three contenders that meet the initial specifications: T-50 aircraft from South Korea, M-346 from Italy; and the Textron Airland Scorpion from the US. The South Korean aircraft is expected to come at the top of the list.
Last time plan on A319, now just think on A321LR, too big for A321LR, for as A319MPA already enough i think A319MPA (ACJ319 spec) more suitable as, more low cost for plant cost. A321LR maybe suitable for Euro country need patrol ocean. too bad Airbus military said need 20 order only will start production line. this one Yinchet also like ....
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Airbus' A321neo LR Could Be A Perfect Platform For A Future European Maritime Patrol Aircraft
Our colleagues from the French strategic and defense newsletter "TTU" published an interesting analysis of a possible military application for Airbus' latest airliner project. During a press conference held in Toulouse on January 13, Fabrice Brégier, Airbus President and CEO, announced the imminent launch of a new "Long Range" version of the A321 airliner.
Scheduled for entry into service in late 2018 and named "A321neo LR", this aircraft will be developed from the cell of the new A321neo and will have transatlantic range. It will be capable of flying 100 more nautical miles compared to the Boeing 757-200W used on the commercial segment. The aircraft will have a practical operating range of 3900 nautical miles thanks to the three additional fuel tanks increasing the range by about 500 nautical miles (compared to the standard A321neo performance).
With the new A321neo LR project, Airbus will be able to design a credible (and affordable) successor to the Atlantique (ATL 2) and P-3 Orion Maritime Patrol Aircraft currently used extensively among NATO members. Both types of MPAs fitted with turboprop engines are getting old despited several modernization and update programs. At present, there are only two types of MPAs fitted with turbofan engines: - Boeing's P-8 Poseidon which has the fuselage of a 737-800 and the wings of a 737-900 commercial aircraft (130 P-8A ordered by the US Navy to replace the P-3 Orion and 8 P-8I ordered the Indian Navy to replace Il-18 "May"). - Kawasaki's P-1 which was designed from a clean sheet for maritime patrol missions. Because of this and the relatively limited production numbers (so far, only Japan has placed orders for the type) its price is a problem for potential export. The Japanese government however is apparently trying to market the P-1 to the UK.
Computer rendering of an A319MPA in Indian Navy colors. Picture: Airbus Military
Airbus current MPAs, based on the CN235 and CN295, or Alenia's ATR 72 MPA all lack range (ocean capacities) and have limited weapons payload capacity when compared to the existing ATL2, P-3 Orion and the new generation P-8 and P-1. Ten years ago, the German branch of Airbus conducted studies on A320MPA and A319MPA for the German Navy. The A321neo LR should prove to be the most sensible basis for a future European MPA.
In addition, every systems and sub-systems suppliers already exist in Europe to turn the A321neo LR into an "ITAR free" MPA likely to interest several countries. This an opportunity and Airbus should not miss it, supported by European engine and equipment manufacturers.
Chinese SAM for RMK-11 wishlist according to Marhalim, it was an interesting development
he saying for budget constraint.. china sam would be best choice given the current malaysia economic down turn.; SAM was already long in the wishlist
there also report we was interested in the Buk-M2E and Pantsir-S1 according to Rosoboronexport press statement ahead of DSA-2014
there also MOU with local firm for HQ-16 system, which i would is very tempting including technology transfer and license production as part of the deal
There also VL-Mica for commonality if mica will be selected for Gowind class
I would say there alot of bell and whistle by exporter but it look like we are still undecided on what system to purchase. Since it for base defence, it could be just one batteries
Last time plan on A319, now just think on A321LR, too big for A321LR, for as A319MPA already enough i think A319MPA (ACJ319 spec) more suitable as, more low cost for plant cost. A321LR maybe suitable for Euro country need patrol ocean. too bad Airbus military said need 20 order only will start production line. this one Yinchet also like ....
Too expensive to my liking. For now I prefer we get atr-72 mpa or c-27j stinger2 for esscom.
I prefer propeller aircraft as mpa. cn-235 would be nice,easy on the logistic ... ....heh logistic, the hell am i talking
Cn-235 a bit small only can install 2 terminal, more like maritime surveillance aircraft ATR72 MPA or C-295 MPA （with ASW and missile, torpedo）more complete MPA solution.
Cn-235 a bit small only can install 2 terminal, more like maritime surveillance aircraft ATR72 MPA or C-295 MPA （with ASW and missile, torpedo）more complete MPA solution.
C-295 AEW would be nice.. but sadly radar dome made by isreal which already throw it out of the book ..
even so.. it airbus bound to have issues during initial production
This post has been edited by thpace: Jan 28 2015, 12:51 AM
Cn-235 a bit small only can install 2 terminal, more like maritime surveillance aircraft ATR72 MPA or C-295 MPA （with ASW and missile, torpedo）more complete MPA solution.
Yes...CN-235 MPA is a lightweight, affordable solution and ideal for countries that previously have CN-235, but don't expect to do anything except for surveillance and patrol duties.
TNI-AL gets CN-235 MPA for $27 million each, equipped with OceanMaster 400 primary radar with detection range 350km and a plethora of other features.
I prefer propeller aircraft as mpa. cn-235 would be nice,easy on the logistic ... ....heh logistic, the hell am i talking
QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Jan 28 2015, 05:43 AM)
Yes...CN-235 MPA is a lightweight, affordable solution and ideal for countries that previously have CN-235, but don't expect to do anything except for surveillance and patrol duties.
TNI-AL gets CN-235 MPA for $27 million each, equipped with OceanMaster 400 primary radar with detection range 350km and a plethora of other features.
last time after sabah standoff, news said mindef want convert few unit our CN235 to MPA, but so far now news liao.
yup, even system also use Israel system. only hope get B737 MESA, but too costly. usd 450 million now.
Anything thay staet with 7 in us arsenal.. it bound to be expensive
No need even think about it But previous report we about to buy 2 or 3 awacs most probably upgraded older e3 when the news come out and the goverment cancelled the deal after info leaked. Not sure about tis
QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jan 28 2015, 09:35 AM)
Most western designed AEW/AWACS use Israeli systems. US built systems way too expensive or not allowed for export. Hard to avoid the fact.
There china or russian.. but not too sure how well it will work..
Mainly.. not many ppl will know because they does not really market their aew unless asked
There china or russian.. but not too sure how well it will work.. Mainly.. not many ppl will know because they does not really market their aew unless asked
Russian tech, especially radars are very good, China not so sure....
Saab Erieye have the highest chances to enter into the inventory. Aircraft most likely amb145 tudm very interested with it anyway we also being offer 4 e2d + f18ash.
Chinese Coast Guard starts new year with 3rd intrusion of Japanese waters in January alone
The Japan Coast Guard says 2 Chinese patrol ships entered Japanese territorial waters off the Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea on 27th of January. A Coast Guard spokesperson says the ships sailed the waters northwest of Kuba Island for about 2 hours on Tuesday morning.
The intruding ships are now navigating in the contiguous zone just outside the territorial waters. The coast guard is continuing to monitor them.
Chinese ships also entered territorial waters off the islands on January 9th and 19th. Last year, the coast guard identified 32 separate intrusions of Japanese waters by its Chinese counterpart.
Japan currently has administrative control of the islands, known as Senkaku to the Japanese and Diaoyu to the Chinese. The Japanese government maintains the islands are a part of Japan's territory.
Saab Erieye have the highest chances to enter into the inventory. Aircraft most likely amb145 tudm very interested with it anyway we also being offer 4 e2d + f18ash.
thats good news, since i know only saab offer such offer to us before
Saab Erieye have the highest chances to enter into the inventory. Aircraft most likely amb145 tudm very interested with it anyway we also being offer 4 e2d + f18ash.
the bigger cons of EMB145 AEW is operation hours only 3.30 hrs （fly hours）due to limited fuel tank. E2D also same 4 hrs only, but worse is even E2D no toilet inside, so usually only fly 2 hrs+ than come back.
the bigger cons of EMB145 AEW is operation hours only 3.30 hrs （fly hours）due to limited fuel tank. E2D also same 4 hrs only, but worse is even E2D no toilet inside, so usually only fly 2 hrs+ than come back.
oh ok, but estimate how many must be up on the air to provide coverage since if we buy 4 is it enough or not enough?
the bigger cons of EMB145 AEW is operation hours only 3.30 hrs （fly hours）due to limited fuel tank. E2D also same 4 hrs only, but worse is even E2D no toilet inside, so usually only fly 2 hrs+ than come back.
CN-295 AEW is essentially a medium-range passenger aircraft with 7 - 8 hours endurance....but yeah....the radar...that's a problem
oh ok, but estimate how many must be up on the air to provide coverage since if we buy 4 is it enough or not enough?
depend why type AEW getting.... like B737 MESA aew can patrol 9 hrs max. so 1 day one AEW (or combine) 8 hrs on air patrol than ok already. (fuel cost need include too) ideally 4 unit for peninsular, 4 unit for sabah/sarawak.
This post has been edited by waja2000: Jan 28 2015, 11:47 AM
depend why type AEW getting.... like B737 MESA aew can patrol 9 hrs max. so 1 day one AEW (or combine) 8 hrs on air patrol than ok already. (fuel cost need include too) ideally 4 unit for peninsular, 4 unit for sabah/sarawak.
If really wan long endurance patrol can opt for g650 aircrafts platform for Erieye. though it might be expensive paying for development cost. but it can fly 13hours with ease.
But Indonesia has purchased Heron UAV through a Philippine's company.....perhaps this can be repeated by PT DI
yup, ideal for as C-295 AEW or SAAB 2000 AEW. both is turboprop engine, low cost, long endurance, daily patrol use is good. but due turboprop engine both fly speed around 4xxkm/h, is hard to assist/combine/follow with Jet fighter to do some tactical mission, Jet fighter usually patrol at 800km/h (jet engine). still AEW plant more better on turbofans engine + long range.
This post has been edited by waja2000: Jan 28 2015, 12:11 PM
Malaysia Eyes Submarine Base Expansion Near South China Sea
The country is mulling an advanced air defense system to counter growing threats.
By Prashanth Parameswaran January 28, 2015
On January 25, Malaysian defense minister Hishammuddin Hussein announced that Malaysia would look to equip its naval base close to the South China Sea with an air defense system.
Hishammuddin made the announcement during a visit to the base, known as the RMN Kota Kinabalu, as part of a three-day working trip to the country’s east to examine its military preparedness. He said that the base required an advanced air defense system to ensure its protection.
The need to enhance the base’s defenses is understandable. The RMN Kota Kinabalu is the only base with the facilities to host the Royal Malaysian Navy’s (RMN’s) two prized Scorpene-class submarines. Malaysia’s naval capabilities have also been increasingly stretched. The country, which is surrounded by strategic sea lanes and is heavily dependent on seaborne trade, faces a range of challenges to secure its interests, as Hishammuddin himself pointed out, including the South China Sea disputes, the Islamic State and the security situation in Sabah.
While he was predictably silent on the specifics of those challenges, close observers know what they are. The 2013 invasion of Sabah by Filipino militants – known as the Lahad Datu incident – followed by a series of 2014 kidnappings involving Chinese nationals there, have revealed Malaysia’s vulnerability in the east. Meanwhile, rising incursions from China into Malaysia’s exclusive economic zone in the South China Sea have exposed the country’s naval limitations. The threat of the Islamic state also looms large. Having any of these threats disrupt Malaysia’s ASEAN chairmanship year would be a disaster, particularly as it prepares to usher in the ASEAN Community with great fanfare.
While the move is clearly part of a broader effort to harden the country’s defenses against these threats, Hishammuddin was coy on specifics. He said more – including which systems might be used – would be forthcoming later. But when exactly is still not clear. That matters because it would determine where it fits within Malaysia’s spending plans over the next few years. Other issues also remain unresolved, including how much of a priority this is relative to other much-needed military upgrades which have previously been put off for various reasons.
More broadly, a key lingering question for Malaysia when such announcements are made – as it often is these days – will be whether it is able to actually follow through on it in the current political and economic environment. Hishammuddin himself said the kind of equipment to be purchased would be subject to the economy and political situation. Both of those are factors have made military modernization a challenge in Malaysia in recent years under Prime Minister Najib Razak.
At present, neither of those looks particularly good. Politically, growing dissatisfaction with the government, combined with a deep suspicion about corruption in military purchases, often makes justifying new equipment challenging. The two Scorpene submarines the base holds were themselves previously the subject of a scandal harking back to when Najib was defense minister. Economically, falling oil prices, a weakening currency, and devastating floods made Najib announce a much trimmer, revised budget earlier this month than the one he unveiled last October. Penny-pinching times may make new defense plans less palatable.
Of course, the government may be able to find ways (and room) to get systems that it truly needs. The little of Najib’s initial 2015 budget that was devoted to defense last year, for instance, still included plans to secure Malaysia’s east, including additional army battalions, upgrading runways, and sea basing. Hishammuddin announced more specifics on some of these measures during his trip as well. At the RMN Kota Kinabalu base, he also inspected the ongoing construction of three workshops for the maintenance of submarine equipment and storage, judging it to be 12 percent complete and according to schedule. Perhaps he will be back unveiling an actual advanced air defense system further down the line.
yup, ideal for as C-295 AEW or SAAB 2000 AEW. both is turboprop engine, low cost, long endurance, daily patrol use is good. but due turboprop engine both fly speed around 4xxkm/h, is hard to assist/combine/follow with Jet fighter to do some tactical mission, Jet fighter usually patrol at 800km/h (jet engine). still AEW plant more better on turbofans engine + long range.
Probably referring to high-speed fighter escorts having trouble following the slow lumbering prop AEW/C aircraft.
yup, also nowdays tactical mission usually jet fighter remaining silent (off radar) get enemy info from AEW&C via data-link， specially now-days stealth jet or Gen4 jet fighter depend a lot info from AEW&C for situational awareness. so AEW if can follow Jet speed (patrol speed)
This post has been edited by waja2000: Jan 28 2015, 03:54 PM
If really wan long endurance patrol can opt for g650 aircrafts platform for Erieye. though it might be expensive paying for development cost. but it can fly 13hours with ease.
yup, this my ideal thinking design too. more easy just get airbus A319LR than install Erieye system. support easy can out source to AA or MAS.
North korea? I dont know if got other countries still using rpg-2.
probably from vietnam, burma or cambodia..there are pics of the soldiers carry RPG-2 in border clashes 2010-2012.. or maybe old rounds from Khmer Rouge era? it's unlikely for NK to do that
The threat from a more assertive China, but you want to buy the air defence from them?
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The need to enhance the base’s defenses is understandable. The RMN Kota Kinabalu is the only base with the facilities to host the Royal Malaysian Navy’s (RMN’s) two prized Scorpene-class submarines. Malaysia’s naval capabilities have also been increasingly stretched. The country, which is surrounded by strategic sea lanes and is heavily dependent on seaborne trade, faces a range of challenges to secure its interests, as Hishammuddin himself pointed out, including the South China Sea disputes, the Islamic State and the security situation in Sabah.
While he was predictably silent on the specifics of those challenges, close observers know what they are. The 2013 invasion of Sabah by Filipino militants – known as the Lahad Datu incident – followed by a series of 2014 kidnappings involving Chinese nationals there, have revealed Malaysia’s vulnerability in the east. Meanwhile, rising incursions from China into Malaysia’s exclusive economic zone in the South China Sea have exposed the country’s naval limitations. The threat of the Islamic state also looms large. Having any of these threats disrupt Malaysia’s ASEAN chairmanship year would be a disaster, particularly as it prepares to usher in the ASEAN Community with great fanfare.
Syrian Arab army using infantry in cohort with their own Recoilles rifle team to eliminate enemies RPG/ATGM teams threats, and they have so many newly found methods in which they have learned during the conflicts. After the enemies threat has been eliminated, their own armored vehicle can march forward and swept aside against any opposition.
which is why i dun like the idea of malaysia buying china made stuff beyond tactical level(atgm, manpads, rpg rounds,etcetc). not only they tend to be inferior in quality,there is also the added risk of conflicting interest between us and them.
JAKARTA -- Eyeing China's maritime presence, Indonesia is attempting to convert growing economic clout into greater military power. For the world's defense contractors, this means there is a competition to be waged and money to be made.
The Indonesian military celebrated its 69th anniversary in October with some muscle flexing in Surabaya, the country's second-largest city. Soldiers marched through the streets and military equipment was put through its paces. The army showed off its latest acquisition: German-made Leopard 2 tanks.
On the sidelines of the festivities, Joko Widodo, then the president-elect, met with incumbent President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono and promised to continue efforts to bolster the country's armaments.
A month later, in Jakarta, the Indo Defence 2014 military equipment expo attracted nearly 700 exhibitors from about 50 countries; more than 20,000 visitors attended.
The Eurofighter consortium made its presence felt at the biennial event. It went so far as to put up advertising billboards in the city center, hoping to generate a buzz about its Eurofighter Typhoon jet.
The consortium hopes to break the grip the U.S. and Russia hold on the Indonesian market. Since 2011, aircraft from those two countries have been equally represented in exhibition flights during Indonesia's independence day celebrations.
"We want Indonesia to switch from U.S. and Russian fighter jets," a Eurofighter consortium public relations official said. "We will propose technology transfers and joint production to make it happen."
Other European manufacturers were also on hand at Indo Defence. Airbus Helicopters announced during the show that Indonesia had ordered 11 of its AS565 MBe Panthers. Sweden's Saab unveiled a prototype unmanned surface vehicle called the Bonefish; a briefing by a Saab representative appeared to catch the interest of Gen. Moeldoko, commander of the Indonesian Armed Forces.
Indo Defense featured hardware from Japanese contractors as well, including Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and Kawasaki Heavy Industries. With the Japanese government having eased restrictions on weapons exports last year, the manufacturers are hunting for orders. They are represented in Indonesia by a company called Nippon Denki Sangyo; NDS, in turn is majority owned by Garda Persada, an Indonesian maker of military and police gear.
Hideki Iida, the president of NDS and an executive at the Indonesian parent, said the goal is to link the two nations' defense industries.
This would seem to be an opportune time to do that, given Indonesia's uneasiness about its current capabilities.
Stretched thin
Indonesia consists of a massive number of islands spanning more than 5,000km. Its position on the eastern side of the Indian Ocean makes it an increasingly important waypoint for international trade of energy and goods.
"The world's political and economic power is shifting from the West to the East," Widodo said while campaigning for the presidency. "And Indonesia is at the heart of it."
Yet the Southeast Asian country's defenses lack the scope to cover its vast land and maritime territory. It has just two submarines.
When AirAsia flight QZ8501 disappeared within Indonesia's jurisdiction late last year, Jakarta immediately asked neighboring countries to help with the search and rescue efforts. "We need foreign assistance because we don't have sufficient equipment," a high-ranking Indonesian official said.
At 95 trillion rupiah ($7.61 billion), the country's 2015 defense budget is double the figure seen five years earlier. But the government is still playing catch-up: The amount equates to less than 1% of gross domestic product. Vietnam's ratio is slightly more than 2%, while Thailand's is around 1.5%.
"We can triple our defense budget if we achieve 7% economic growth," Widodo said.
If the government succeeds, foreign contractors stand to benefit, though Widodo also wants to nurture the domestic defense equipment industry. That could mean new opportunities for companies like PAL Indonesia, a state-run shipbuilder, which on Thursday announced that it had received a $90 million order to supply two 120-meter vessels to the Philippine Department of National Defense.
It can show that we are trying to collaborate with china but also want a piece of the pie in the spratlys If we buy western sams to put in kk it sends a very negative message to china which might affect the relations that the government wants to have with china
Our relationship with china is very unique by itself
We are aware of each other intention but play it smooth on surface while preparing weapons on backside
Having a rival weapon system is like having an achiliss heel within your defence plan. They are aware of its limitation and they will know how to bypass it
QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Jan 28 2015, 06:50 PM)
which is why i dun like the idea of malaysia buying china made stuff beyond tactical level(atgm, manpads, rpg rounds,etcetc). not only they tend to be inferior in quality,there is also the added risk of conflicting interest between us and them.
Look at tank bialothon where china bring their own tanks.
Damaged, cant fire well, plus slower. All againts a soviet era t72s....
BEIRUT (Reuters) - Lebanese Hezbollah militants killed and wounded a number of Israeli soldiers in a "big operation" on Wednesday targeting an Israeli military convoy in a frontier area, a Lebanese political source said.
The attack in the Israeli-occupied Shebaa Farms area was in response to an Israeli rocket attack in Syria, the source, who is familiar with details of the operation, said.
Brunei Confirms Transfer of Blackhawks to Malaysia
Marhalim Abas January 28, 2015 Malaysia - RMAF
SHAH ALAM: BRUNEI Defence Ministry has confirmed the transfer of its S-70A Blackhawk helicopter to Malaysia, in a statement released on its website today.
The statement did not say how many helicopters will be transferred but since Brunei operates four S-70A Blackhawk helicopters it is likely that the whole fleet will be involved in the transfer as reported by Malaysian Defence previously.
Among others the statement said that both countries had a long term collaboration and defence ties through various exchanges and training and involvement in foreign missions.
“The collaboration is expected to be enhanced with the planned transfer of the S-70A Blackhawk helicopter of the Royal Brunei Air Force to the Malaysian Armed Forces.”
“The helicopter is still in service with TUDB and it is expected to be transferred at the earliest in September when the new S-70i helicopters of TUDB are fully operational. The process of transfer will be discussed further by both parties.”
“The Defence Ministry is hopeful that the transfer of the helicopter will contribute in improving the capabilities of the Malaysian Armed Forced and the efforts of both countries to protect the peace and security of the region.”
The release: KERJASAMA PERTAHANAN ANTARA NEGARA BRUNEI DARUSSALAM DAN MALAYSIA
BANDAR SERI BEGAWAN, Rabu 28 Januari 2015 – Kementerian Pertahanan sukacita memaklumkan bahawa hubungan pertahanan antara Negara Brunei Darussalam dan Malaysia semakin bertambah erat terutama dengan adanya rundingan rapat antara kedua negara; pertukaran latihan dan latihan bersama ketenteraan; pertukaran maklumat; penyertaan kedua negara dalam operasi antarabangsa seperti United Nation Interim Force In Lebanon (UNIFIL) dan International Monitoring Team (IMT); dan sebagainya.
Kerjasama ini akan dipertingkatkan lagi dengan rancangan penyerahan Helikopter Blackhawk S-70A kepunyaan Tentera Udara Diraja Brunei (TUDB) kepada Angkatan Tentera Malaysia.
Helikopter tersebut masih beroperasi dalam TUDB dan dijangka akan sedia untuk diserahkan seawalnya dalam bulan September apabila helikopter baru Blackhawk S-70i TUDB beroperasi sepenuhnya. Keterangan bagi penyerahan tersebut akan dibincangkan selanjutnya oleh kedua belah pihak.
Kementerian Pertahanan berharap penyerahan helikopter tersebut akan menyumbang kepada peningkatan keupayaan Angkatan Tentera Malaysia dan usaha kedua negara untuk menjaga keamanan dan keselamatan serantau.
The MiG-27 was on a routine sortie from the Jodhpur air base to Uttarlai base at Barmer. PTI.
A MIG-27 fighter jet crashed in Rajasthan's Barmer on Tuesday and a part of it fell on a passing motorcyclist.
Twenty-six-year-old Loon Singh was on his way to a village to distribute invitation cards of his wedding when the jet crashed around 3 pm. Singh had a miraculous escape though he suffered burns and injuries on his hand. His bike was completely burnt.
According to defence ministry spokesperson Lt. Colonel Manish Ojha, the pilot ejected safely before the crash at Mahabar village, around four km from the Barmer city. Later, helicopters were flown to the crash site for rescue operations. The MiG-27 was on a routine sortie from the Jodhpur air base to Uttarlai base at Barmer in western Rajasthan.
The Indian Air Force has ordered a court of inquiry into the incident.
Brunei mindef confirm the blackhawk transfer, tq sultan~
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KERJASAMA PERTAHANAN ANTARA NEGARA BRUNEI DARUSSALAM DAN MALAYSIA
BANDAR SERI BEGAWAN, Rabu 28 Januari 2015 - Kementerian Pertahanan sukacita memaklumkan bahawa hubungan pertahanan antara Negara Brunei Darussalam dan Malaysia semakin bertambah erat terutama dengan adanya rundingan rapat antara kedua negara; pertukaran latihan dan latihan bersama ketenteraan; pertukaran maklumat; penyertaan kedua negara dalam operasi antarabangsa seperti United Nation Interim Force In Lebanon (UNIFIL) dan International Monitoring Team (IMT); dan sebagainya.
Kerjasama ini akan dipertingkatkan lagi dengan rancangan penyerahan Helikopter Blackhawk S-70A kepunyaan Tentera Udara Diraja Brunei (TUDB) kepada Angkatan Tentera Malaysia.
Helikopter tersebut masih beroperasi dalam TUDB dan dijangka akan sedia untuk diserahkan seawalnya dalam bulan September apabila helikopter baru Blackhawk S-70i TUDB beroperasi sepenuhnya. Keterangan bagi penyerahan tersebut akan dibincangkan selanjutnya oleh kedua belah pihak.
Kementerian Pertahanan berharap penyerahan helikopter tersebut akan menyumbang kepada peningkatan keupayaan Angkatan Tentera Malaysia dan usaha kedua negara untuk menjaga keamanan dan keselamatan serantau.
BMPT or Terminator is much more feasible, you know having MBT hull as a basic platform giving more protection and less worries for the crew instead of something thin armored like M-113
Photoshopped photo of Grom module on an m113 This seems like a nice system for adnans since its remotely controlled and packs quite a lot of firepower Grom module armament: 1x 30 mm automatic cannon 1x 30 mm automatic grenade launcher 1x 7.62 mm coaxial machinegun 4x 9P135M Konkurs or Baryer AT missiles Officially promoted by ukraine's tank design bureau Maybe can deploy like 2 of this plus 4 sharpshooter adnans together in a squad for huge firepower plus manpower
FNSS ady have their own air defence version
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lol, I got wrong category.. I tot air defence one
This post has been edited by KYPMbangi: Jan 28 2015, 10:55 PM
how if get SU-50EM to replace Mig 29 in 2018? 2 year after russia/India version delivery ...
su-55EM
SU-50 would be single sitter.
neh.. russian product are also like airbus punya. Initial production sure got problems. Best to wait until it fully matured then purchase. For me, if we want to purchase SU-55, 2020 onwards would be a better target. Give a few years to sort out the problems
plus, the twin seater variant development with india is behind schedule. The picture itself say that india will get their twin seater first then only Russian own su-55 twin seater. What we want is from Russian ikurt not HAL
This post has been edited by thpace: Jan 29 2015, 10:55 AM
neh.. russian product are also like airbus punya. Initial production sure got problems. Best to wait until it fully matured then purchase. For me, if we want to purchase SU-55, 2020 onwards would be a better target. Give a few years to sort out the problems
plus, the twin seater variant development with india is behind schedule. The picture itself say that india will get their twin seater first then only Russian own su-55 twin seater. What we want is from Russian ikurt not HAL
i know, Single sitter ok too... now with new technology, many job already done by computer, Su-50EM can get first .... SU-55EM take long time, somethink like 2025 like that.
i know, Single sitter ok too... now with new technology, many job already done by computer, Su-50EM can get first .... SU-55EM take long time, somethink like 2025 like that.
our airforce love things in twin. twin engine and two seater , it like elephant in the room
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The first Airbus Defence and Space A400M new generation airlifter for the Royal Malaysian Air Force has taken another step towards its maiden flight with the start of full engine runs and taxying trials. The aircraft, known as MSN22, moved under its own power for the first time on January 26th at the Airbus Defence and Space facility in Seville, Spain.
A series of tests at increasingly high speeds will take place in the coming days leading to the first flight.
our airforce love things in twin. twin engine and two seater , it like elephant in the room
Our airforce prefer jets with good combat radius and decent weapons loads. there is a reason y Boeing decide to develop cft for f18 ash. Most of the single engine unable provides combat radius and weapons load the airforce want. single seater is great for air superiority role. wizzo come in handy provides all kind of support in differ missions.
Probably no choice, big daddy already said buy F-35, have to buy F-35.
The best they can do is delayed the procurement few years back. buy small amount and wait f35 tech to be mature. at the same time pray hard no war incoming.
The best they can do is delayed the procurement few years back. buy small amount and wait f35 tech to be mature. at the same time pray hard no war incoming.
Hahaha this is the Korean peninsula we're talking about. Hardly a month passes without Dear leader up north threatening war.
This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jan 29 2015, 12:52 PM
RBAirF Transfers 4 S-70A Blackhawks to Malaysian Armed Forces
BANDAR SERI BEGAWAN: Brunei's Ministry of Defence yesterday said it will transfer S-70A Blackhawk helicopters belonging to the Royal Brunei Air Force (RBAirF) to the Malaysian Armed Forces.
News of four S-70A Blackhawk helicopters from the RBAirF to be transferred to the Malaysian Armed Forces have been widely reported in prominent Malaysian websites since early this week and was confirmed by a statement from Brunei's Ministry of Defence on its website yesterday.
"The Ministry of Defence is pleased to inform that the defence relations between Brunei Darussalam and Malaysia continue to be strengthened especially with the close consultation between the two countries; exchanges in trainings and joint military exercises; exchange of information; participation of both countries in international operations, such as the United Nations Interim Force In Lebanon (UNIFIL) and the International Monitoring Team (IMT); and many others.
"This cooperation will be further enhanced with the transfer of the S-70A Blackhawk helicopters belonging to the Royal Brunei Air Force (RBAirF) to the Malaysian Armed Forces.
"The helicopters are still operational in the Royal Brunei Air Force and are expected to be ready for the handover as early as September when the new RBAirF S-70i Blackhawk helicopters are fully operational.
"Details of the transfer will be further discussed by both sides.
"The Ministry of Defence hopes that the transfer of these helicopters will contribute towards enhancing the Malaysian Armed Forces capability and to the efforts of both countries in preserving regional peace and security," read the statement.
Brunei's Ministry of Defence had ordered 12 S-70i Blackhawk helicopters that were contracted to Sikorsky as part of Royal Brunei Air Force's helicopter fleet modernisation.
The new fleet will enhance the Royal Brunei Air Force's rotary wing capabilities in air mobility, Search and Rescue (SAR) and enhance surveillance of Brunei's waters and borders. The first batch of the uniquely configured aircraft was delivered in early 2014.
Equipped with a suite of advanced avionics and sensors, the multirole aircraft can perform a variety of missions over land and water, including search and rescue, humanitarian relief, anti-piracy, troop transport and medical evacuation.
The contract includes ground support equipment, spares and technical training.
The Ministry of Defence has an option to order an additional 10 aircraft as part of the same contract.
Meanwhile, Malaysia will almost certainly operate the second-hand tactical / transport helicopters out of Labuan RMAF Base on an island just eight kilometres off the coast of Borneo, the land that holds Brunei, the Malaysian provinces of Sarawak and Sabah and Indonesian Kalimantan. From Labuan the choppers will likely be deployed to maintain peace in the Eastern Sabah Safety Zone (Esszone), airheadfly.com reported.
Along with attempting to make some maneuvers towards the port city of Mariupol in South East Ukraine, pro-russian separatist militias attempt a pincer movement and seal the bulge along the frontline near Debaltseve. If the separatists are successful in sealing the bulge, it may prove disastrous to Ukraine government forces, who is believed to have about 5,000 to 7,500 troops and many heavy equipment located in the area. With the main highway leading out of the area slowly coming under the range of separatist heavy artillery, any attempts at resupply or evacuation may prove dangerous.
Map of pro-Russian separatist movements, attempting to seal off the Debaltseve bulge.
Amply supplied with good winter gear and heavy equipment, the separatists are reportedly gaining good ground both in Debaltseve and near the approaches to Mariupol. Some observers view the separatists as waiting to see how each theater develops and then only deploying the bulk of their forces to either objectives, most see the separatists as having not enough numbers to obtain both objectives simultaneously.
While taking both objectives are preferable, each target has on itself, excellent strategic targets:
Mariupol can serve as a major stepping stone in forming a land bridge connecting Russia to the newly-annexed Crimean peninsular and simultaneously give the separatists an outlet to the sea, potentially opening a new supply line.
Meanwhile, the elimination of the Debaltseve salient can significantly shorten the separatist front line, create a unified frontline between the Donetsk & Luhansk provinces and potentially take out thousands of Ukrainian government troops and capturing many heavy equipment.
both suppose to be US high low mix.. highly advance f22 and lower f35 to carry out most of the dirty work
in end both have so much issues. The only reason why it still continuing is because they are in too deep to come out and forcing allies to buy those
british, canadian and Australian evaluation report all mentioned serious improvements to be made to the f35 but some how politics took over and they are buying rubbish plane for the sake of pleasing US
maybe we should lease the gripen as a stop gap measure at the very least until su-55em available. but then again it only possible will happen if RMAF interest to buy russian jet again.
maybe we should lease the gripen as a stop gap measure at the very least until su-55em available. but then again it only possible will happen if RMAF interest to buy russian jet again.
If malaysia want to join the development which russian aimed to sell to us, we can get faster or at least same time with india rather than wait because the two seater variant would likely be based on IAF just like how our MKM is based on the MKI
Other than tat, only beyond 2023, 2030 is a more realistic date
by than our MKM would seriously need a SLEP or replacement
This post has been edited by thpace: Jan 30 2015, 01:38 AM
btw can local company like ctrm do upgrade for them blackhawk? things like flir and nvg-capable cockpits.
p/s: looks like these ex rbaf blackhawks is the only ones we'll get (for free) since nz is going to get them ex austrian ones. I'd rather see more EC725 than fresh UH-60
This post has been edited by ayanami_tard: Jan 30 2015, 01:38 AM
btw can local company like ctrm do upgrade for them blackhawk? things like flir and nvg-capable cockpits.
p/s: looks like these ex rbaf blackhawks is the only ones we'll get (for free) since nz is going to get them ex austrian ones. I'd rather see more EC725 than fresh UH-60
su-55em?
the timeline was released by suhkoi itself.. a lot of comment is very unrealistic since only recently russian willing to share with india t50 technology, 5 years to develop and to full production is very short, tat is without prototype building
Chinese-made Nigerian army CH-3 UCAV crashes in Nigeria, demonstrates high level of Chinese weapons supply into Nigeria
As the brutal Boko Haram insurgency has entered its 7th year in Nigeria, the relationship between the government and China has deepened. In many ways it is a match of needs. The Nigerian military has a pressing need for counter-insurgency (COIN) equipment, such as drones, MRAP vehicles and smart bombs (many of which the US has been unwilling to provide the Nigerian government due to human rights concerns). China is seeking to be a first tier exporter of such modern military systems as well as has a massive domestic demand for oil.
On January 25, 2015, a photo appeared on online at Beegeagle's Blog, appearing to show a CH-3 UCAV which crashed upside down near Dumge village in the Mafa District of Borno Province.
The two AR-1 anti-tank missiles on the CH-3's wings appear to be intact. Borno is the area where much of the Boko Haram violence, including the massacre of 2,000 civilians, occurred in 2015. Currently, the Nigerian military is fighting to hold onto the city of Maiduguri against a Boko Haram onslaught, so it appears likely that the CH-3 in question was flying reconnaissance and fire support missions for the Nigerians when it crashed. If so, this a significant step from using small UAVs for scouting and reconnaissance missions to operating UCAVs for direct strike missions against the Boko Haram militants.
Despite damage to the tricycle landing gear and upper forward fuselage, this CH-3 appears to have crash landed due to mechanical or control difficulties. This is in line with most other global UAV combat losses to date. As the CH-3 has a cruise altitude of 5,000m and a flight ceiling of 6,000m, it is unlikely that Boko Haram would have the necessary heavy anti-aircraft weaponry or training to do so.
Chinese-made Nigerian army CH-3 UCAV crashes in Nigeria, demonstrates high level of Chinese weapons supply into Nigeria
As the brutal Boko Haram insurgency has entered its 7th year in Nigeria, the relationship between the government and China has deepened. In many ways it is a match of needs. The Nigerian military has a pressing need for counter-insurgency (COIN) equipment, such as drones, MRAP vehicles and smart bombs (many of which the US has been unwilling to provide the Nigerian government due to human rights concerns). China is seeking to be a first tier exporter of such modern military systems as well as has a massive domestic demand for oil.
On January 25, 2015, a photo appeared on online at Beegeagle's Blog, appearing to show a CH-3 UCAV which crashed upside down near Dumge village in the Mafa District of Borno Province.
The two AR-1 anti-tank missiles on the CH-3's wings appear to be intact. Borno is the area where much of the Boko Haram violence, including the massacre of 2,000 civilians, occurred in 2015. Currently, the Nigerian military is fighting to hold onto the city of Maiduguri against a Boko Haram onslaught, so it appears likely that the CH-3 in question was flying reconnaissance and fire support missions for the Nigerians when it crashed. If so, this a significant step from using small UAVs for scouting and reconnaissance missions to operating UCAVs for direct strike missions against the Boko Haram militants.
Despite damage to the tricycle landing gear and upper forward fuselage, this CH-3 appears to have crash landed due to mechanical or control difficulties. This is in line with most other global UAV combat losses to date. As the CH-3 has a cruise altitude of 5,000m and a flight ceiling of 6,000m, it is unlikely that Boko Haram would have the necessary heavy anti-aircraft weaponry or training to do so.
above picture, did your see the bomb is mount wrong direction? one facing front and other one facing back..... hopefully we can get CH-4 too, perfect put in sabah
This post has been edited by waja2000: Jan 30 2015, 09:25 AM
above picture, did your see the bomb is mount wrong direction? other one facing front and order one facing back.....
Hahaha, didn't noticed that. Probably originally the missile fell off and was later put back on the pylon by villagers. That would explain the backwards missile.
above picture, did your see the bomb is mount wrong direction? one facing front and other one facing back..... hopefully we can get CH-4 too, perfect put in sabah
I think the propeller is at the back for this CH-3. So the bomb is mount on the correct direction.
Philippine navy to receive recently decommissioned australian navy vessels
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The Australian Government will gift two recently-decommissioned Landing Craft Heavy vessels, including a package of spare parts, to the Philippines Government, the Minister for Defense Kevin Andrews announced today.
Mr Andrews said the former Royal Australian Navy vessels HMAS Tarakan and Brunei would be gifted to the Philippine Navy after being refurbished with new safety and navigation equipment.
“I expect the vessels will be refitted and ready for hand over in May 2015,” Mr Andrews said.
The Landing Craft will be commissioned in the Philippines Navy and will provide additional intra-theatre sealift capability.
Hmm after closer scrutiny, the bomb/missile on the left is definitely different from the one on the right. Clearly the on the right is an AR-1 Laser-guided missile based on the shape of the fins (as shown below), but cannot identify the one on the left....
Chinese-made AR-1 Laser-guided missile (if you are wondering why it looks a bit weird, the seeker head is covered by the blue colored part, probably still classified to show in arms shows).
This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jan 30 2015, 02:48 PM
Hmm after closer scrutiny, the bomb/missile on the left is definitely different from the one on the right. Clearly the on the right is an AR-1 Laser-guided missile based on the shape of the fins (as shown below), but cannot identify the one on the left....
Chinese-made AR-1 Laser-guided missile (if you are wondering why it looks a bit weird, the seeker head is covered by the blue colored part, probably still classified to show in arms shows).
The shape is a bit like Maverick....not too weird...
But the colors are....look like decorations in amusement parks
I dun get it. How does these contribute to Pinoy national security?
They are island nation, so landing craft like this is vital for them to move troops and equipment around. It also help them strengthened their position in Spratly. 2/3 of the war is about logistics. Only 1/3 is about tactics. There's no sense having the best guns, the best tanks and the best everything when you don't have enough productions and transports in place to supply them.
This post has been edited by MrUbikeledek: Jan 30 2015, 09:35 PM
Pfftt...nonsense....more likely will be used to ferry stuff around the archipelago, seeing how scarce Navy ships actually are in the Pinoy Navy.
Unless they plan to ground these ships on the shoals also, they aren't exactly in any position to strengthen anything in the Spratlys.
their other option is to build a small jacked up rigs and place it there.. like sea basing but at a smaller scale. Since it shallow water, the rig do not have to be tat high
Airbus restructures A400M programme over production delays
30 January 2015
Airbus Defence and Space has announced plans to restructure the A400M Atlas aircraft programme amid increasing criticism from the European governments over production delays.
The A400M programme covers supply of 174 aircraft to seven Nato member countries, namely Belgium, Britain, France, Germany, Luxembourg, Spain, and Turkey.
Only 11 aircraft have been delivered to date, including six to France, one to Germany, while the UK and Turkey each received two airlifters, after production delays, cost overruns, and technical faults.
As part of the restructuring, Airbus has transferred A400M industrial activities to its Operations unit, which is led by Pilar Albiac-Murillo.
However, programme-related activities, such as development and customer deliveries, will continue to be overseen by Rafael Tentor-led military aircraft business unit.
The move follows the resignation of Airbus Defence and Space military aircraft division head Domingo Urena-Raso, who led the troubled A400M programme since 2009.
"Airbus will do its utmost to overcome problems with integration of military capabilities so the customers receive the aircraft they need in the shortest time possible."
The resignation comes as German politicians asked Airbus managers to justify the delays to the Parliament, which they argue have damaged the company's reputation, as reported by The New York Times.
In addition, Turkey and France are believed to have expressed concerns on the ongoing problems associated with the project.
Airbus chief executive officer Bernhard Gerwert will serve as interim head of the division until 1 March, when Fernando Alonso, who is currently the head of Airbus flight test operations, would take over the responsibility.
Gerwert said the current aircraft in service are showing good performance and have also been deployed in military operations, but conceded that the company has failed to perform at the expected level in integration of military capabilities and the industrial ramp-up.
Gerwert said: "That is unacceptable and we will fix that. We are fully conscious of how dependent the customer nations are on this new airlifter and therefore take their concerns very seriously.
"We will do our utmost to overcome them so the customers receive the aircraft they need in the shortest time possible.
"I expect that the new team will rapidly address existing shortfalls in the most efficient way."
Airbus said: "The military capabilities consisting of aerial delivery, cargo handling system, defensive aids subsystems (DASS), and air-to-air refuelling with pods will be integrated in the second half of 2015, following certification and qualification for each capability.
"Additional military capabilities will be integrated gradually up until 2018, as contractually agreed.
"We are continuing our intense and constructive discussion with OCCAR and the customer nations regarding the delivery schedule, and will communicate on this once those have been concluded."
US Army negotiating new AH-64 Apache agreement with Boeing
30 January 2015
The US Army is reportedly in talks with Boeing regarding a new multi-year agreement for the acquisition of an additional 240 AH-64 Apache attack helicopters from 2017 to 2021.
US Army Apache programme manager Colonel Jeff Hager was quoted by Reuters as saying that army acquisition chief Heidi Shyu recently signed a document for the two sides to start work on an agreement, with the aim of receiving approval from the defence secretary by March 2016.
Boeing attack helicopters business development head Mark Ballew said it could include options for foreign military sales of 100 Apaches.
The US Government has already approved Apache sales to Qatar and Indonesia, Ballew added, noting that the helicopter has also drawn interest from other countries.
According to Reuters, lawmakers generally ask military services to demonstrate significant savings compared to the cost of negotiating purchases on a year-by-year basis.
Boeing attack helicopter programmes vice-president Kim Smith said: "We at Boeing have been doing our part to leave no stone unturned."
"We at Boeing have been doing our part to leave no stone unturned."
Meanwhile, Pentagon chief arms buyer Frank Kendall reportedly told the House Armed Services Committee that he favoured multi-year agreements because they allow programme managers to focus on performance, rather than annual contract negotiations.
Powered by two GE T700-701D engines, the AH-64 Apache is primarily used for distributed operations and deep precision strikes against relocatable targets. It can also provide armed reconnaissance when required in day, night, obscured battlefield and adverse weather conditions.
It is used by US, Greece, Japan, Israel, the Netherlands and Singapore.
If I'm not mistaken there's an older Air defense system called Oerlikon 'Skyguard' right? It has 2x 35mm autocannons, a surveillance/fire control radar & a launcher for 4 Sparrow or Aspide SAM missiles. Looks very good for short/medium range air defense.
Wonder why we never got the system? We're using Oerlikon 35mm just fine.
If I'm not mistaken there's an older Air defense system called Oerlikon 'Skyguard' right? It has 2x 35mm autocannons, a surveillance/fire control radar & a launcher for 4 Sparrow or Aspide SAM missiles. Looks very good for short/medium range air defense.
Wonder why we never got the system? We're using Oerlikon 35mm just fine.
I thought according to wiki Malaysia already operates 28 Oerlikon Skyguard GDF-003 units.
This post has been edited by azriel: Jan 31 2015, 12:34 PM
2 dead as PH Air force trainer plane crashes in Nasugbu, Batangas
PAF Alenia SF-260 trainer fleet
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MANILA, Philippines—Two people were killed after a plane crashed Saturday morning into the sea off Nasugbu town in Batangas, the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP) said.
CAAP said an SF260, an Italian aircraft of the Philippine Airforce (PAF), which was on a training flight, crashed in Batangas past 9 a.m.
The PAF, meanwhile, confirmed that one of its instructor pilots and a student died after its aircraft crashed 300 meters off the shore of Nasugbu.
The PAF said recovered bodies of the pilots would be brought to the Villamor Airbase in Pasay City.
PAF added that it would not disclose the names of the fatalities until their next of kin have been informed.
saw the gun before.. but never seen the radar system for the skyguard like this below
QUOTE(azriel @ Jan 31 2015, 12:40 PM)
Or is it just the guns without the radars?
We do have the skyguard radar system
But the system itself is kinda outdated in present day warfare, only useful for low-level air defence Any cheap manpads nowadays is more superior than a battery of a skyguard..
But the system itself is kinda outdated in present day warfare, only useful for low-level air defence Any cheap manpads nowadays is more superior than a battery of a skyguard..
nvr seen the radar during exhibition, only the gun Plus, i dont think we have the missile version.. nvr see before either
well, i would say the fire control system is outdated 80s system.. i doubt it can defend against fast moving target even with the radar system But it still useful, the guns can be manually operated
Put on top, hicom 4x4 truck and shoot around
or ada budget can modernise it with better fire control system
This post has been edited by thpace: Jan 31 2015, 01:06 PM
nvr seen the radar during exhibition, only the gun Plus, i dont think we have the missile version.. nvr see before either
well, i would say the fire control system is outdated 80s system.. i doubt it can defend against fast moving target even with the radar system But it still useful, the guns can be manually operated
Put on top, hicom 4x4 truck and shoot around
or ada budget can modernise it with better fire control system
Put on top of av8, terus jadi spaag (self-propelled anti-aircraft gun)
On 25 January 2015 a Special Action Force company of the Philippine National Police entered a Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) and Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters’ (BIFF) stronghold in Mamasapano, Maguindanao to serve an arrest warrant for wanted bomb makers, Zulkifli Abdhir (a.k.a. Marwan) and Basit Usman, when they were ambushed by a large force of the militants, resulting in 44 of the policemen being killed and 12 wounded.
The massacre puts at risk a peace agreement signed between the Philippine government and the MILF. The SAF were said to be working on minimal intel without first vetting the operation through their chain of command, while the Islamic militants were accused of savagely executing the wounded officers.
The SAF claims to have killed the target Marwan, a claim which has been disputed by the MILF.
The following motion sickness inducing video was filmed by one of the militants, showing them getting into position and then opening up on government forces.
As I watched the video I took note of the weapons… an M-16, a few M1 carbines, some squad designated marksman rifles that I couldn’t identify and then I saw it… A 1918 Browning Automatic Rifle.
On 25 January 2015 a Special Action Force company of the Philippine National Police entered a Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) and Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters’ (BIFF) stronghold in Mamasapano, Maguindanao to serve an arrest warrant for wanted bomb makers, Zulkifli Abdhir (a.k.a. Marwan) and Basit Usman, when they were ambushed by a large force of the militants, resulting in 44 of the policemen being killed and 12 wounded.
The massacre puts at risk a peace agreement signed between the Philippine government and the MILF. The SAF were said to be working on minimal intel without first vetting the operation through their chain of command, while the Islamic militants were accused of savagely executing the wounded officers.
The SAF claims to have killed the target Marwan, a claim which has been disputed by the MILF.
The following motion sickness inducing video was filmed by one of the militants, showing them getting into position and then opening up on government forces.
As I watched the video I took note of the weapons… an M-16, a few M1 carbines, some squad designated marksman rifles that I couldn’t identify and then I saw it… A 1918 Browning Automatic Rifle.
I don't thing Marwan has been killed right now, it is Pinoy we are talking about, are you believe their claims? Last time our Police must kill Dul Matin and some of his colleague in West Java and Malang although Pinoy claimed has killed them in operation in Southern Mindanao
seems Our A400M success first fly yesterday..... i see some one post photo at twitter see below：
Antonio Rodriguez @antoniovillarin 13h13 hours ago Malaysian first A400M after maiden flight. Included camera equiped chasing aircraft and RAT deployed! @VadeAviones
This post has been edited by waja2000: Jan 31 2015, 03:22 PM
We do have the skyguard radar system But the system itself is kinda outdated in present day warfare, only useful for low-level air defence Any cheap manpads nowadays is more superior than a battery of a skyguard..
Not so inferior if complete system with the radar, autocannon and SAM system. The 35mm autocannon has a range of about 4km and AIM-7 Sparrow (yes, the same as the Air-to-air missile) or Aspide (basically european-made Sparrow) missiles can reach up to 30-40 km in range. Radar also has a detection range of about 50 km. So it's not too shabby for a point short/medium-range air defense system. Besides, it's used by a lot of countries already. I don't argue it's an older system and may not quite match modern systems, just curious why we never got the system in the first place.
The complete system consists of:
Skyguard Fire control radar/command unit
2 twin-barrel 35mm Oerlikon Autocannons
AIM-7 Sparrow missile quad-launcher
This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jan 31 2015, 04:15 PM
Not so inferior if complete system with the radar, autocannon and SAM system. The 35mm autocannon has a range of about 4km and AIM-7 Sparrow (yes, the same as the Air-to-air missile) or Aspide (basically european-made Sparrow) missiles can reach up to 30-40 km in range. Radar also has a detection range of about 50 km. So it's not too shabby for a point short/medium-range air defense system. Besides, it's used by a lot of countries already. I don't argue it's an older system and may not quite match modern systems, just curious why we never got the system in the first place.
The complete system consists of:
Skyguard Fire control radar/command unit
2 twin-barrel 35mm Oerlikon Autocannons
AIM-7 Sparrow missile quad-launcher
Skyguard radar have search range of max 20km, with max track range of 10-15km, and by rule of thumb any ground-launched missile version can only go to 1/3 of the max range compared to it's air-launched counterpart
Perhaps you referring to Oerlikon X-TAR3D Search Radar? it has search range up to 55km Though its for stationary installation, and not mobile
Skyguard radar have search range of max 20km, with max track range of 10-15km, and by rule of thumb any ground-launched missile version can only go to 1/3 of the max range compared to it's air-launched counterpart
Perhaps you referring to Oerlikon X-TAR3D Search Radar? it has search range up to 55km Though its for stationary installation, and not mobile
Indonesia bought the Chinese version Type 90 AA gun, we combine them with QW-1 and QW-3 Manpads and they are compatible with Radar Search Hunter we had used before for the Modernized S-60 57 mm AA gun and TD-2000 system all system come from China
Oerlikon Skyshield will be combined with Chiron Manpads from LIG-1 South Korea
Russian MoD selects AK-12 as standard firearm for Ratnik soldier modernization program
The Russian Ministry of Defence (MoD) has selected two assault rifles manufactured by Kalashnikov Concern as new standard issue firearms for the Russian Ratnik soldier modernisation programme.
"We have already made a deal and selected assault rifles from Izhmash. It won in cost to effectiveness terms. The quality is also acceptable for us," Deputy Minister of Defence Yuriy Borisov stated on Russian radio on 24 January.
Borisov stated that two assault rifles manufactured by Kalashnikov Concern were selected by the Armed Forces: the AK-12, chambered in 5.45x39 mm, and the 7.62x39 mm AK-103-4.
"We also increase the number of ordered Ratnik systems from 50,000 to 70,000", Borisov added.
According to Borisov, the AK-12 is quite similar to its predecessor, the AK-74M, and has some common parts. The Russian army is expecting the price of the AK-12 will be 25% more than the AK-74M.
The AK-12 is a fifth generation AK-pattern rifle, featuring several ergonomic improvements, a bolt catch, accessory rails, and a telescopic buttstock. The AK-12 is also has a lower recoil impulse than the AK-74M. Design work on the AK-12 began in August 2011 with the first prototype unveiled on 24 January 2012. The rifle is fed from 30 round AK-74 box magazines, but 60 and 95 rounds magazines are also available.
PLA D-66 artillery unit firing a WS-35 152mm fin-stabilized GPS guided howitzer shell Up close view of the WS-35 Artllery shell:
Perhaps their actual deployable versions is based on GLONASS....no use shelling a Taiwanese small island in the channel if US shuts down GPS coverage on surrounding Chinese mainland
Perhaps their actual deployable versions is based on GLONASS....no use shelling a Taiwanese small island in the channel if US shuts down GPS coverage on surrounding Chinese mainland
The WS-35 actually uses the Chinese Beidu GPS system. Indeed, I was using the term GPS as a verb,not a noun as in I'm speaking about GPS as a global positioning system, which Baidu is one of (others include the original GPS, Galileo, GLONASS and IRNSS). I was not referring to the actual US-built GPS system.
Sorry for any confusion.
This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jan 31 2015, 05:24 PM
The WS-35 actually uses the Chinese Beidu GPS system. Indeed, I was using the term GPS as a verb,not a noun as in I'm speaking about GPS as a global positioning system, which Baidu is one of (others include the original GPS, Galileo, GLONASS and IRNSS). I was not referring to the actual US-built GPS system.
Sorry for any confusion.
Yes....a country with somewhat clear intention to have conflicts with neighbors should have their own "GPS" solution....
ITAR/TASS: Pro-Russian militias closes Debaltsevo salient, trapping Ukraine government troops and Paramilitaries
Ukraine paramilitary troops conduct a patrol in the deep winter landscape
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Militias of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR), fighting under harsh winter conditions, have fully blocked a grouping of Kiev troops near the city of Debaltsevo in eastern Ukraine, a spokesman for the DPR Defense Ministry said on Friday.
Eduard Basurin said the militias had taken the city of Uglegorsk and adjoining areas under control, thus trapping about 8,000 Kiev troops.
The DPR leaders "have made a decision to preserve soldiers’ lives," and actively calling out for the government troops to surrender. Basurin said adding 11 troops had already defected the side of the militias.
Eduard Basurin earlier this week said 1,194 Ukrainian servicemen had been killed since the beginning of combat operations in eastern Ukraine.
My goodness, only Russians are crazy enough to wage war in the middle of the Russian winter season!
This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jan 31 2015, 08:20 PM
nice video of advanced super hornet my favourite candidate for mrca mindef pls buy 3 squadron and put 1 in labuan
well Marhalim Abas said this just marketing gimmick ... it still Super Hornet.
for my view it have pros and cons. and going to end production in 2016~2020, depend order ... this should be last version F-18, call F-18 ASH (F18 SH block3), went we buy it, after 15 year later (2030+) during mid life upgrade maybe we no have upgrade packages or need pay boeing for RnD for technology upgrade. will most of F18 user like US and Australia, they mostly using F18 SH (block2) they will get enhance version during 2020-2022 for mid life upgrade than use until end of life.
for as we can try to find 2nd hand from US navy F18 EF then upgrade to Block 2/3 spec so can use until 2030 like current F18D after mid life upgrade。 If still want to get F18 ASH, good to buy 8~10 unit for Butterworth AB to form a full F-18 squadron. than other squadron in Labuan AB.
This post has been edited by waja2000: Feb 1 2015, 01:02 PM
ITAR/TASS: Pro-Russian militias closes Debaltsevo salient, trapping Ukraine government troops and Paramilitaries
Ukraine paramilitary troops conduct a patrol in the deep winter landscape My goodness, only Russians are crazy enough to wage war in the middle of the Russian winter season!
Winter is the best time for Donetsk militia to gain some ground. Most likely, the Ukrainian troops hunkered down in their winter defensive position.
well Marhalim Abas said this just marketing gimmick ... it still Super Hornet.
for my view it have pros and cons. and going to end production in 2016~2020, depend order ... this should be last version F-18, call F-18 ASH (F18 SH block3), went we buy it, after 15 year later (2030+) during mid life upgrade maybe we no have upgrade packages or need pay boeing for RnD for technology upgrade. will most of F18 user like US and Australia, they mostly using F18 SH (block2) they will get enhance version during 2020-2022 for mid life upgrade than use until end of life.
for as we can try to find 2nd hand from US navy F18 EF then upgrade to Block 2/3 spec so can use until 2030 like current F18D after mid life upgrade。 If still want to get F18 ASH, good to buy 8~10 unit for Butterworth AB to form a full F-18 squadron. than other squadron in Labuan AB.
US navy will not give ya because they dun have spare. mainly they need jets and they have their hand tied with the crappy f35 they did try to buy additional sh butit is not easy. flight hour on the airframes of the us navy hornet and sh is running out fast.
still,cant beat oto melara in term of transpotability. where to find 105m gun that can be disassembled into 11 pieces and reassemble in a matter of minutes?
still,cant beat oto melara in term of transpotability. where to find 105m gun that can be disassembled into 11 pieces and reassemble in a matter of minutes? Them Skyhawks.
Yup skyhawks. rumors said those skyhawks was in terrible conditions and takes lots of money to refurbished. Anyway before we received all 88units suddenly reagents administration ban on sales thuse we received only 40units.
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South Korea launches submarine command to counter North Korea threat
SEOUL (Korea Herald/Asia News Network) - South Korea launched its submarine force command on Sunday to better cope with evolving maritime security challenges including those from North Korea, and potentially from outside the peninsula.
Incorporating its functions of underwater operations, training and education, and maintenance into the new command, the Navy seeks to conduct more integrated, efficient and stable submarine operations, Navy officials explained.
With the launch, the South has become the world's sixth country to have a submarine command. Traditional maritime powers such as the US, Japan, France, Britain and India have run submarine commands.
"The launch of the submarine force command is a clear display of our will to perfectly defend our East, West and South Seas through the enhanced quality and quantity of our submarine capabilities," the Navy said in a press release
PLA escort fleet continued European tour with visit to Rotterdam on 27-30 Jan 2015. Next stop, France.
From left-right: Chaohu, Yuncheng and Changbaishan
During 27-30 January 2015 three Chinese Naval ships visited Europe for the first time in history. One of the ports they visit is Rotterdam.
The 18th Escort fleet, consisting of Type 071 LPD Changbaishan, Fleet supply ship Chao Hu and the Type 054 FFG Yuncheng will also be visiting France, England and Germany during their tour before returning to their home port.
UK MoD claim Russian bombers patrolling near its airspace carried Nuclear weapons
RAF Typhoon fighter jets were scrambled on Wednesday after two long-range TU-95 “Bear” bombers were detected flying over the English Channel.
The incident was last night described as “yet another in a series of deliberately provocative” measures by President Vladimir Putin which confirmed that NATO’s status had moved firmly from “rival to adversary”.
Sources within the Ministry of Defence last night revealed that one of the two long-range bombers was carrying at least one air-dropped nuclear warhead-carrying missile, designed to seek and destroy a Vanguard submarine.
Both Prime Minister David Cameron and Defence Secretary Michael Fallon were alerted after cockpit conversations confirming the bomber’s nuclear payload were intercepted by a Norwegian military listening post, and shared with the Ministry of Defence.
The missile was not armed, and the aircraft's crew would have required a direct order from President Putin before making it live. The other bomber was said to have been acting in the role of “mothership”, overseeing the military exercise.
One senior RAF source said: “We downloaded conversations from the crew of one plane who used a special word which meant the would-be attack was a training exercise.
"They know that we can pick up their transmissions and it would only be of concern if the often used release weapon order was changed.
"We also knew from another source that one of the aircraft was carrying a nuclear weapon long before it came anywhere near UK airspace.”
ITAR/TASS: Pro-Russian militias closes Debaltsevo salient, trapping Ukraine government troops and Paramilitaries
Ukraine paramilitary troops conduct a patrol in the deep winter landscape My goodness, only Russians are crazy enough to wage war in the middle of the Russian winter season!
wow they looked like us armed and funded much like the pro russian militia who is funded by russia.
ITAR/TASS: Pro-Russian militias intercept supply convoys attempting to run the blockade of the besieged city of Debaltsevo
Ukraine government soldiers patrol a village near Debaltsevo city
Self-defence forces of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) on Sunday nipped an attempted breakthrough of two convoys with munitions for the Ukrainian troops trapped in Debaltsevo but let vehicles with would leave the area, a spokesman for the DPR defence ministry said.
"Early in the morning on February 1, the self-defence forces nipped an attempted breakthrough of two convoys with munitions, fuels and foods for the Ukrainian troops trapped in Debaltsevo," said Eduard Basurin.
"Three convoys with medical and cargo vehicles with wounded Ukrainian soldiers were allowed to leave Debaltsevo," he stressed. "Our units blocking the Debaltsevo-Artemovsk highway were not shelled. Although, according to reconnaissance data, one of these convoys evacuated commanders of the Ukrainian army’s Debaltsevo unit."
"Over the past night and in the first half of the day on Sunday, the Ukrainian troops were regrouping forces to prepare a breakthrough from the Debaltsevo ring," Basurin said. "Armoured vehicles and personnel are beings switched from Debaltsevo to Popasny. According to reconnaissance data, the Ukrainian command plans another breakthrough attempt here."
He said that the DPR forces were reinforcing the ring arounf Debaltsevo.
Basurin also said: "In the past 16 days, Ukraine’s army lost 136 tanks, 110 combat infantry vehicles and armoured vehicles, 80 artillery units and mortars, and 58 cars. "Personnel losses stood at 1,569 people"
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For his bravery fighting the Malayan Communist. Pawang Nong was awarded the British Empire Medal.
With his help the Homeguards bravely defended Perlok,Bukit Batu & Terbol. Another of his heroic was the successful rescue of a hostage abducted by the communists.
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Pawang Nong: The unsung Malay Witch Doctor Hero. For his bravery fighting the Malayan Communist. Pawang Nong was awarded the British Empire Medal.
Pawang Nong said he was friends with Mat Kilau. If Mat Kilau could have seen him accept the medal from the British, I wonder what Mat Kilau (the staunch Anti-British fighter that he was) would say?
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Pro-Russian separatist spokesperson Alexander Zacharchenko: We will start a voluntary mobilization. We aim to recruit 100,000 militia.
A convoy of 2S1 'Gvodzika' 122mm self-propelled guns with Pro-Russian separatist insignias moving to the front in the deep winter landscape
After the failure of the ceasefire talks scheduled to be conducted yesterdayin Minsk, Belarus, Pro-Russian separatist leader Alexander Zacharchenko has stated that the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics will start a voluntary mobilization drive in 11 days time. The drive targets the recruitment of 100,000 militia recruits. Some fear the announcement is a cover for more overt Russian involvement in the civil war.
This may raise the stakes in a rapidly deepening conflict that has erupted into large scale fighting recently. In these last months alone, separatist forces has made dangerous inroads towards the port city of Mariupol, in Southeastern Ukraine. Simultaneously, heavy fighting has emerged in the strategically important railroad junction of Debaltsevo salient, held by approximately 5,000 to 7,500 government soldiers and volunteer paramilitary troops. Separatist forces has reportedly nearly totally cut off the salient with the last major roads available coming in the range of separatist heavy artillery. Soldiers and civilians that escaped reported heavy artillery shelling the road moment they hit the road, taking out many fleeing vehicles.
It is feared that if the encirclement of Debaltsevo is completed, it will bring about a major slaughter as happened during the encirclement of Ilovaysk in August/September. It was reported that nearly 1,700 Ukraine government soldiers and voluntary paramilitary units were killed in the siege of the city and many more captured; a further estimated 800 killed or MIA as they attempted to break out of the encirclement.
LTZ already go to sea .... comeback becore cny i think .... will wiki have all sub-info if we want get Russia sub .... should be target latest Amur class 1650.
(A US Army AH-64E Apache during Garuda Shield Exercise 2014 - credit to the original uploader)
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New Apache confounded the enemy in combat, commander says
By Kyle Jahner, Staff writer 9:28 a.m. EST February 1, 2015
Lt. Col. John Davis said the enemy in Afghanistan had gotten used to the Apache AH-64D. The enemy knew roughly how long the Apache would take to get there, how long it could engage, when it would have to leave for fuel and when it might come back.
The first battalion commander to deploy the new Apache AH-64E Guardian in combat said that's why the new model managed to scare a confused enemy.
"Now the E shows up and now the enemy is literally on the ground, 'I can't move,'" Davis said. "When is this guy going to go get gas?"
Praise for the AH-64E Apache helicopter, along with updates on the Chinook CH-47F's roll-out and future plans for that program, dominated a presentation for media by Boeing and the Army at Boeing's Washington, D.C.,-area headquarters in Arlington.
Davis, commander of the 1-229th Attack Reconnaissance Battalion, praised the speed, range, loiter time and network capability of the new Apaches. His unit deployed with 24 of them to Afghanistan from March to November 2014, where they logged 11,000 combat flight hours.
"I will absolutely say this is the most lethal, versatile Apache thus far," said Davis, an Apache pilot himself. "It was a game-changer for the way we deployed its capabilities against the threats we had in Afghanistan and the way the theater was collapsing down" and forward operating bases closing.
The Army has begun discussions about a deal to buy about 240 AH-64E Apache helicopters from Boeing from 2017 to 2021. Such multi-year deals require approval of the defense secretary and Congress and generally must show significant savings, according to federal acquisition policy.
Aside from an estimated top speed (188 mph) about 20 mph faster than the AH-64D, the AH-64E can hang out longer once it reaches the battle. Given about a 15-minute trip to the field, the old model can stay in the air in a fight for about 2½ to three hours. The Guardian can fight for about three to 3½ hours.
The Army provided Boeing some feedback after the deployment including a desire for extended-range fuel tanks, which would increase even further how far the aircraft could fly and how long it could remain in battle.
The E-model can also control unmanned aircraft vehicles such as the Gray Eagle via Tactical Control Data Link, giving it a better view of the situation on the ground, including from outside of the range where enemies could hear it coming.
The Army received, trained and fielded the E model in 14 months before it first saw combat. Davis had said earlier that pilots essentially had nothing but praise for the aircraft expected by the Army to also have a longer life expectancy than the D model.
One drawback has been that the on-board data link, the TCDL of the E model, is an advanced system not universal to all the military's components; Davis said that in post-mission briefings with Boeing the Army communicated that it would like to add the older Surveillance and Control Data Link along with TCDL.
From Airbus PR: First Airbus A400M for Malaysia makes its maiden flight The first of four Airbus Defence and Space A400M new generation airlifters ordered by the Royal Malaysian Air Force has made its successful maiden flight, marking a key milestone towards delivery. The aircraft, known as MSN22, took off from Seville, Spain, on 30 January at 17:30 local time (GMT+1) and landed back on site 1 hours and 30 minutes later.
The photos show MSN22 performing its maiden flight
PARIS — French authorities have agreed to cut 20 Tiger combat helicopters and retrofit to simplify the two-model fleet to the more capable attack version, Airbus Helicopter executive vice president Dominique Maudet said on Jan. 27.
The value of the contract will remain the same despite the smaller number of units because unit cost will increase. The new feature is a conversion of the existing escort unit to the attack model, he said.
The 20-strong cut stems from the 2014-19 multiyear budget law, which slashed a planned acquisition of 80 Tigers to 60, reflecting tough budgetary constraints. The Army would have received 40 of the support and escort, and 40 in the support and attack version.
The multiyear budget law sets out a delivery of 16 new Tigers out to 2019.
The Direction Générale de l'Armement "amended the Tiger contract, which went into effect Dec. 19," a spokesman for the procurement office said. Under the amendment, there is a firm order for 24 attack and a retrofit of 36 escort units, he said.
That firm order of 24 new attack helicopters is effectively a cut of 16 from the previous contract for 40 units. Airbus Helicopters said there are also options to compensate for the reduced order, but gave no details.
Airbus Helicopter is expected to deliver the first retrofit of the escort to the attack model in 2017.
The existing fleet of escort units will be upgraded with laser-guided Hellfire II missiles and a more powerful engine.
In December, Airbus delivered the first three of the attack, or hélicoptère appui-destruction (HAD), Block 2 version. These are equipped with an improved targeting system, additional combat external fuel tanks, and are certified for Hellfire and Spike air-to-ground missile, in addition to the Mistral air-to-air weapon. The remaining new units will be shipped by the end of 2017, Maudet said.
The Army lost one of the Tigers in Afghanistan in 2011, due to bad weather conditions.
In 2012 prices, the French share of the Tiger program was €6.3 billion (US $7.1 billion), based on 80 units ordered separately by France and Germany, and 22 by Spain, a French Senate report on the draft 2013 defense budget said. The unit cost, excluding development, was then €27 million for the escort, and €35.6 million for the attack version.
Other French helicopter programs have been affected. On the NH90 transport helicopter, deliveries have been stretched out, with the French Navy to receive three units this year and then two units per year. The Navy has ordered 27 NH90s.
The Army, which is due to receive a total 68 NH90s, will receive four per year compared to a previous target of eight.
The helicopter orders are funded in the conventional procurement process and there have not been talks of acquiring them under the planned special purpose company, a new lease deal being created by the administration.
Pindad ties up with three countries for arms production
Tuesday, 03 February 2015, 14:31 WIB
REPUBLIKA.CO.ID, JAKARTA -- Indonesian state-owned arms manufacturing firm PT Pindad has invited a number of countries to cooperate in the production of equipment for the country's main weaponry system.
"The development of cooperation with Germany, Turkey and Belgium will commence this year, in addition to transfer deals," the new president director of the company, Silmy Karim, said before attending a meeting between the working committee on state capital participation with Commission XI of the House of Representatives (DPR) here on Monday.
He affirmed that Pindad would cooperate with Rheinmetall of Germany to produce tank ammunition, with FNSS of Turkey to develop medium-sized tanks, and also with Cockerill Maintenance & Ingenierie SA Defence (CMI) to produce 90mm and 105mm caliber turrets.
"The cooperation is being established with countries that are known in the world for their expertise in tank and arms technologies. These ties will be flexible and can also be in the form of cooperation in products or operations, or a joint company," he pointed out.
Karim, who was inaugurated as the company's president director on December 22, 2014, stated that the cooperation was also aimed at meeting domestic demand, besides technology transfer.
"Many countries offered to establish cooperation, but we chose these countries," he remarked, adding that Pindad has sought cooperation with other countries, as well, because of its limited resources.
Moreover, to produce equipment for Indonesia's main weapon system in 2015, the company needs some Rp4.7 trillion.
"It is believed that a funding of Rp700 billion will be allocated for the venture in the 2015 national budget, while some Rp100 will be from internal coffers, and the rest, from partners," he affirmed.
Furthermore, Commission XI of the parliament and Pindad are discussing the government's plan to inject Rp700 billion in 2015 to the company to improve its production lines (Rp593.5 billion) and the development of its industrial product business to support the government's maritime axis program (Rp66.5 billion).
Rp25 billion meanwhile will be allocated to develop production and facilities for learning centers, while another Rp15 billion will be provided for human resource development.
If the government capital participation is disbursed, Pindad will set a revenue target of Rp4.035 trillion for 2019, up from Rp2.1 trillion projected for 2015, he noted.
The company's net profit in 2019 is estimated to be Rp200.7 billion, which is higher than the estimated Rp85.3 trillion for 2015.
"He affirmed that Pindad would cooperate with Rheinmetall of Germany to produce tank ammunition, with FNSS of Turkey to develop medium-sized tanks, and also with Cockerill Maintenance & Ingenierie SA Defence (CMI) to produce 90mm and 105mm caliber turrets."
Let's get this too Or the FK-3 oso not bad We need some air defence yo Put at johor see if singapore still dare intrude our airspace
HQ-9, I sincerely believe is even too much for our budget. No point getting one battery only to protect one area. We wanted to get a few batteries to cover a wider region
Make no mistake, instead of reducing intrusions i believe there will be more. Why? simple, we install they sure want to test it They know we wont shoot and to study our doctrine.
That china did, they put missile defence near taiwan and japan. US come do join practice, china quickly set up signal intelligence station near the missile defence area to gather information on US planes
just read this clause of the deal... uhhhhh no thanks
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Since natural gas produced in Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan is vital to China's development, the country is willing to sell advanced weapon systems such as the FD-2000, an export version of the HQ-9 missile, to its western neighbors as a way to get better deals. Yet there is a catch. If China successfully convinces both nations to purchase FD-2000s, they will then have to purchase Chinese radars, early warning aircrafts and even fighter jets to coordinate with the air defense system.
The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | World | Tue, February 03 2015, 4:50 PM
Indonesia and Japan will be agreeing to partnerships in the field of defense, particularly in the transfer of Japan-manufactured defense equipment to Indonesia, a top envoy has said.
“There will a memorandum of understanding [MoU] in the field of defense between Indonesia and Japan that will be signed,” Indonesian Ambassador to Japan Yusron Ihza Mahendra said as quoted by Antara news agency in Jakarta on Tuesday.
He said Indonesia’s cooperation with Japan to develop its defense capacity would bring positive impacts to other fields, one of which was the economy.
“If the MoU on defense cooperation could be signed, this would be good for the development of Indonesia’s defense and economy,” said Yusron.
“With the cooperation, Indonesia’s defense will be stronger while our economy will get a kind of a new injection of strength,” he went on.
Yusron said the defense partnerships could also increase Indonesia’s diplomatic strength both in the region and on the international level.
He refused to provide details on when the MoU on Indonesian-Japanese defense cooperation would be signed, except to say that the signing of the agreement would be conducted during upcoming President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo’s visit to Japan.
“President Jokowi will visit Japan. I expect it will be around March,” said Yusron. (ebf)(++++)
HQ-9, I sincerely believe is even too much for our budget. No point getting one battery only to protect one area. We wanted to get a few batteries to cover a wider region
Make no mistake, instead of reducing intrusions i believe there will be more. Why? simple, we install they sure want to test it They know we wont shoot and to study our doctrine.
That china did, they put missile defence near taiwan and japan. US come do join practice, china quickly set up signal intelligence station near the missile defence area to gather information on US planes
i've heard the issue in commercial chamber for weeks, the second batch of Indonesian submarine procurement to have AIP fiture and sub launched Anti Ship missile is a must and Japan showing their interest to sell their Soryu class to Indonesia
yes, after they change country Constitution low .... due to china sentiment, seem many country hard to buy directly weapon from japan, now mostly look like Japan they doing via technology transfer/cooperation. still take time to see how Japan sell weapon.
they equipment and weapon system is expensive as hell, to reduce the cost burden they now looking for export market for their weapon system
personally i am very much interested for their Soryu class submarine, Maneuver Ground Combat Vehicle and Akizuki class Escort Destroyer.
Australia want to buy the Soryu. The Abe government seems to agree, but the Japanese Navy is reluctant to let the Australian to have the sub. Apparently, some of the technologies in the sub is decades ahead of anything that Australia can some up with, and the Japanese Military don't want to share the secret.
they equipment and weapon system is expensive as hell, to reduce the cost burden they now looking for export market for their weapon system
personally i am very much interested for their Soryu class submarine, Maneuver Ground Combat Vehicle and Akizuki class Escort Destroyer.
u sure indonesia want a destroyer class? can get 2 or 3 frigate with reasonable asw and aaw with tat price tag
QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 3 2015, 07:39 PM)
yes, after they change country Constitution low .... due to china sentiment, seem many country hard to buy directly weapon from japan, now mostly look like Japan they doing via technology transfer/cooperation. still take time to see how Japan sell weapon.
not sure how.. last time korea try to get the engine and transmission used on the type 10 for their K2 development but Japan not interested to sell and Korea have to switch to German.
ya ya typo but still based on the same system just the radar and missile variant diff
but then again.. i wound prefer getting s-300 PMU2 although the cost is significantly more than china copies
now now is see we need more UCAV ASAP..... too many sea threat like ship robbery around coast mersing， than our ship need many hrs to location... u know right so slow our kedah class. if we can get Yilong UCAV, cost just usd 2 million, get 2~3 unit put in Kuantan AB , can patrol entire east peninsular coast guard, any case happen, UCAV can reach case location less 1 hrs to recon situation.
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Both Greek pilots on board ejected before crashing, but because by then the aircraft had tipped sideways, they were sent straight against the ground. Their bodies were found outside the hangar.
Australia want to buy the Soryu. The Abe government seems to agree, but the Japanese Navy is reluctant to let the Australian to have the sub. Apparently, some of the technologies in the sub is decades ahead of anything that Australia can some up with, and the Japanese Military don't want to share the secret.
Abe want the cash to drive the stagnant economy but the military dont really want to share Sound very japanese for me
But again like german, they wont offer their best and maybe an export variant like how the type 214 export from type 212
iinm German are also offering their type 214 for australia submarine deal
QUOTE(azriel @ Feb 3 2015, 07:45 PM)
Yes, even offering Australia their Soryu class submarine.
The Sukhoi Su-35S multirole fighter is due to be commissioned this year, Russian Defense Minister Gen. of the Army Sergei Shoigu said.
"The prospective multirole fighter jet, Sukhoi Su-35S, is on a trial run. It is supposed to be commissioned this year," Shoigu said at a Defense Ministry teleconference on Tuesday.
He demanded quality tests of the aircraft and its compliance with performance specifications.
"This is a primary objective of the year," the minister remarked.
The Russian Defense Ministry has described Su-35S is a profoundly modernized super-maneuverable multirole fighter jet of the 4++ generation. The use of fifth-generation technologies makes it superior to other fighters in its class. The jet boasts much better performance characteristics than similar planes, as well as improved avionics. It outdoes similar planes in many technical parameters.
The plane is powered by a thrust vectoring engine which significantly improves its maneuverability. The fighter can simultaneously engage several types of targets. It has modern control and crew life support systems
now now is see we need more UCAV ASAP..... too many sea threat like ship robbery around coast mersing， than our ship need many hrs to location... u know right so slow our kedah class. if we can get Yilong UCAV, cost just usd 2 million, get 2~3 unit put in Kuantan AB , can patrol entire east peninsular coast guard, any case happen, UCAV can reach case location less 1 hrs to recon situation.
u do know right one of their uav just crashed? minus pilot quality.. i serious doubt china product quality
u sure indonesia want a destroyer class? can get 2 or 3 frigate with reasonable asw and aaw with tat price tag not sure how.. last time korea try to get the engine and transmission used on the type 10 for their K2 development but Japan not interested to sell and Korea have to switch to German.
Japan Korea bilateral relations is much more worse than Malaysia-Indonesia though
Come on, we need something as Flagship for our armadas. To have one or two Destroyer class as the command center for the rest of fleet will give us more options on how to handle threat in near future.
u do know right one of their uav just crashed? minus pilot quality.. i serious doubt china product quality
uav definaly have higer rate of crash/shot down/system/comm error/ that first place we use uav to reduce pilot risk and hardware cost.... than u want to said quality US uav more case crash .... event get iran take over control uav... than china uav just 1/8 of US made price, so no big deal at all for the crash ...
Bang i not anti singapore or anything just that we shud not let others intrude our airspace right If singapore buy so many air defence missiles to defend against us why shouldnt we defend ourselves??
It is their rights to buy air defense to defence themselves from any possible threats. I did not say we should not buy air defences systems. but I dun think it is necessary to bring singapore into the issue.
Japan Korea bilateral relations is much more worse than Malaysia-Indonesia though Come on, we need something as Flagship for our armadas. To have one or two Destroyer class as the command center for the rest of fleet will give us more options on how to handle threat in near future.
iinm the talk on the engine and transmission was facilitated by the US as well but japan refused on ground they do not export any military related system I cant find the info again but japan instead offers on improving their (korea k2 mtu)build quality but korea just brush it off
Merajuk kot
the trend now is to get a ldp as a command ship and accompanied by full fledged asw and aaw frigate
of course a destroyer would be good as well but again with tat price tag i would get more hulls to spam anti-ship than a single expensive hull
ask US to give their Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate, a destroyer in a frigate hull
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Ucav alone is cheaps but the whole systems is really expensive. we currently do not have any satellite that capable of operating high tier uav/ucav. We also have to invest lots of money in the command and control facilities for the ucav as well.
Australia want to buy the Soryu. The Abe government seems to agree, but the Japanese Navy is reluctant to let the Australian to have the sub. Apparently, some of the technologies in the sub is decades ahead of anything that Australia can some up with, and the Japanese Military don't want to share the secret.
unless the sub can turn into a giant robot(or a high school girl),i don't think they are that much advanced. granted the RAN only have them faulty collin class SSK, but they could get less faulty ones from South Korea. cheaper and faster to build as well
Them saying that they wont gonna help Japan in the event of China Japan war that made japanese top brass to be reluctant to share strategic assets with them
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unless the sub can turn into a giant robot(or a high school girl),i don't think they are that much advanced. granted the RAN only have them faulty collin class SSK, but they could get less faulty ones from South Korea. cheaper and faster to build as well
Them saying that they wont gonna help Japan in the event of China Japan war that made japanese top brass to be reluctant to share strategic assets with them
Soryu have few advance ... - 500 meter submerge for conventional submarine..... - size 4200 tons - new with AIP with lithium-ion batteries tech .... advance can submerge for long hrs in sea in high-speed。
iinm the talk on the engine and transmission was facilitated by the US as well but japan refused on ground they do not export any military related system I cant find the info again but japan instead offers on improving their (korea k2 mtu)build quality but korea just brush it off
Merajuk kot the trend now is to get a ldp as a command ship and accompanied by full fledged asw and aaw frigate
of course a destroyer would be good as well but again with tat price tag i would get more hulls to spam anti-ship than a single expensive hull
ask US to give their Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate, a destroyer in a frigate hull
get some Oliver Hazard Perry then you made an improvement like what the Turks did with their G-Class and voila you will have a basically dedicated ASW frigate, but their Gas turbine engine same with other US made vessels is not going easy to your Navy pocket though
BTW Our LDP's especially is been tasked as part of Kolinlamil (Komando Lintas Laut) roughly to be translated in English as Strategic Sealift units, but yeah sometimes they had been used in several occasion as Command Ship because their admiralty entourage facility.
The military wanted Japan to chip in to its ongoing modernization by providing to the country assets and equipment that could be used in areas of humanitarian assistance and disaster response and maritime-domain awareness.
Defense Secretary Voltaire T. Gazmin admitted on Monday that he provided his Japanese counterpart a “military wish list” that could help the country stand up to the challenge of responding to calamities and natural disaster and increased patrol of its territorial waters.
However, the defense chief refused to disclose these types of assets, other than “everything that could address our maritime security.”
Earlier, the Navy wanted Japan to provide them with brand-new patrol boats, which it could be used in patrolling and securing the country’s territorial waters, especially in the West Philippine Sea where Chinese military and paramilitary vessels are a regular sight.
Gazmin was in Tokyo last week for the Japan-Philippines Defense Ministerial Meeting wherein he met with Japanese Defense Minister Gen Nakatani.
Japan is currently locked in a territorial dispute with China over a portion of the East China Sea, while the Philippines is battling off an aggressive China over its territory in the West Philippine Sea.
During their meeting, Gazmin and Nakatani agreed that any dispute should be settled peacefully and without the use of force or coercion, in accordance with basic principles of international law.
They also reaffirmed the importance of the freedom of navigation and overflight in the high seas as they briefed each other on the situations in the East and South China Sea.
Gazmin welcomed Japan’s efforts in actively contributing to the peace and stability, not only in the region but around the world, in partnership with the international community.
Gazmin and Nakatani highlighted the progress of bilateral cooperation and exchanges between the two countries through the high-level exchanges, vice ministerial dialogue and Japan Self Defense Force’s contribution to the relief operations during Supertyphoon Yolanda.
Soryu have few advance ... - 500 meter submerge for conventional submarine..... - size 4200 tons - new with AIP with lithium-ion batteries tech .... advance can submerge for long hrs in sea in high-speed。
german 214 is not far behind.. given it german, they will sell as long u have the money
QUOTE(madoka @ Feb 3 2015, 08:22 PM)
get some Oliver Hazard Perry then you made an improvement like what the Turks did with their G-Class and voila you will have a basically dedicated ASW frigate, but their Gas turbine engine same with other US made vessels is not going easy to your Navy pocket though
BTW Our LDP's especially is been tasked as part of Kolinlamil (Komando Lintas Laut) roughly to be translated in English as Strategic Sealift units, but yeah sometimes they had been used in several occasion as Command Ship because their admiralty entourage facility.
neh.. RMN will nvr go gas turbine again We didnt send an evaluation team but no news after tat, guess that the gas turbine was a turn off. Can be replace with diesal but given its limited useful age and cost, just not worth it
german 214 is not far behind.. given it german, they will sell as long u have the money
or if youre Israel , you could always play the guilt card and ask them fancy stuff for free...(and ask them to throw in a couple more stuff while youre at it)
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Feb 3 2015, 08:34 PM)
or if youre Israel , you could always play the guilt card and ask them fancy stuff for free...(and ask them to throw in a couple more stuff while youre at it)
heh, I remember you post a countryball satire about this long ago? repost it pls
or if youre Israel , you could always play the guilt card and ask them fancy stuff for free...(and ask them to throw in a couple more stuff while youre at it)
shhhh... bangsa heaven tu...
literally ask german to sponsor their entire submarine fleet (dolphin-class), now want to get offshore patrol vessels well below market rate or possible sponsored again No wonder german reluctant untill they play the guilt card again
I don't know what in the Pinoy military brass and DoD heads, surely their budget is not too small compared with other ASEAN countries but somehow their military budget is wasted without any traces and they never had any significant procurement programme for a long years maybe decades.
Even Indonesia in the peak of 98 Asia crisis still managed to get some patrol ships and MPA aircraft indigenously
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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 3 2015, 08:44 PM)
shhhh... bangsa heaven tu...
literally ask german to sponsor their entire submarine fleet (dolphin-class), now want to get offshore patrol vessels well below market rate or possible sponsored again No wonder german reluctant untill they play the guilt card again
german 214 is not far behind.. given it german, they will sell as long u have the money neh.. RMN will nvr go gas turbine again We didnt send an evaluation team but no news after tat, guess that the gas turbine was a turn off. Can be replace with diesal but given its limited useful age and cost, just not worth it
German 214 too small, then they come out Type 216 4000 tons design than propose to OZ .... but it still just a paper spec .... however Soryu already use in Japan Self defense navy, mature and proven.
RMN navy no mater how they need/face to use gas turbine if buy big ship like over 6000 tons. unless they still keep small ship. gas turbine can provide a lot more power to ship.
German 214 too small, then they come out Type 216 4000 tons design than propose to OZ .... but it still just a paper spec .... however Soryu already use in Japan Self defense navy, mature and proven.
RMN navy no mater how they need/face to use gas turbine if buy big ship like over 6000 tons. unless they still keep small ship. gas turbine can provide a lot more power to ship.
The French also have a large conventional submarine design on the drawing board, the SMX Ocean. The problem is, this large SSK is quite expensive. Almost as expensive as the nuc. Small country will not be able to afford it, while rich country will most likely choose nuclear sub.
German 214 too small, then they come out Type 216 4000 tons design than propose to OZ .... but it still just a paper spec .... however Soryu already use in Japan Self defense navy, mature and proven.
RMN navy no mater how they need/face to use gas turbine if buy big ship like over 6000 tons. unless they still keep small ship. gas turbine can provide a lot more power to ship.
216 would be like the extended dolphin class tat jews rob from german
got news also tat it will be like dolphin 2
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The French also have a large conventional submarine design on the drawing board, the SMX Ocean. The problem is, this large SSK is quite expensive. Almost as expensive as the nuc. Small country will not be able to afford it, while rich country will most likely choose nuclear sub.
not only that big submarine need deep and big sea to help them hide... than our water just very Shallow water like at South china sea and selat melaka
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Quite an impressive showcase of Japan Aonohara garrison anniversary event training exhibition to the Japanese public, really an eye opener how things are done in Japan.
Quite an impressive showcase of Japan Aonohara garrison anniversary event training exhibition to the Japanese public, really an eye opener how things are done in Japan.
Didn't know they still have the Type 74 in their active inventory
I thought phased out with the new Type 10 and Type 90 already
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