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post Jan 24 2015, 08:46 PM, updated 11y ago

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post Jan 26 2015, 03:20 PM

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Last-last buy mica-vl.
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post Jan 26 2015, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Jan 26 2015, 03:52 PM)
The problem with Fighter aircraft is that, they require runway which is a big and vulnerable target, and they required like 45 minutes on average after warning to finally take off. Even a fully armed and fueled QR still require 15 minutes. SAM only take at most 5 minutes to power up their targeting radar. Fighter is good against large group of attacking aircraft as their combine radar signature is large, and the coordination of a large group of aircraft require a lot of radio communication that we can easily intercept. So we have plenty of advance warning. But for lone low level infiltrator that may pop-up suddenly close to the target, Missile is still the best option.
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I dun where you get the time figure.
but it all wrong.
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post Jan 26 2015, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Jan 26 2015, 04:11 PM)
Unless you have a plane fueled and armed at the end of the runway, then 45 minutes is the reasonable timeframe. If you have plane fueled and armed at the end of the runway, then they may be launch as early as 5 minutes. But 15 minutes is a more reasonable time. It may take several minutes to strapped a pilot into the seat, and Fighter start up procedure will take several minutes. Unless of course you have a pilot strapped in the cockpit 24 hours a day.
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There is always few aircraft fully loaded, fueled and standby in the hangar. The rough estimation it took the aircraft on standby flying is less than 5 minutes probably within 3 minutes. The exact time is under osa anyway.
There is also combat air patrol in the sky.
And yes if in crisis time you will see pilot standby in the cockpit.

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post Jan 27 2015, 07:03 AM

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What do you guys think of tulpar ifv?
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post Jan 27 2015, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(trollboy @ Jan 27 2015, 07:14 AM)
Not amphibious and i think too heavy
K21 better
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K21?
Expensive and it amphibious capability below par.
having problems even on sea states 2.

tulpar look gooding on price tag usd1.5mil depending on configuration.
Modular design and would be nice support for our mbt.
I'm not looking to much on amphibious capabilities in these.
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Jan 27 2015, 07:32 AM)
Why not BMP-3  biggrin.gif

Bristling with gun, autocannon and machine guns...can fire ATGM and has great amphibious performance

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Prefer easier intergration of western tech and ncw function with av8.
Pt-91 should not be hard to add in such network capability.
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Jan 27 2015, 07:52 AM)
If the primary aim is full integration between vehicles like installation of compatible BMS system on APC and IFV....then Tulpar is the most ideal aternative.

Other characteristics, like amphibious capability can be less prioritized. Can't get everything....need to sacrifice something
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Full amphibious capabilities ifv can wait until our military officially establish marine and procure lpd ship.
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post Jan 27 2015, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Jan 27 2015, 10:53 AM)
I rather we do away with amphibious capability altogether in exchange for extra protection.
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Your reasoning?
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jan 27 2015, 11:51 AM)
do matter who is firing, at the end BUK missile still Russia product shot down jet.
malaysian/politis will be hoo ha about this to the end of time..... even more bullet to hoo ha with mh17 (alot touching)  wink.gif
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I think we might go for mica-vl.
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jan 27 2015, 01:02 PM)
let wait and see how Mica-vl, since gowind also possible using it.
got news update on mou LY-80?
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If gowind use mica vl there is very high chance we also using land based mica vl.
Anyway I would prefer we go for NASAMS
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jan 27 2015, 09:36 PM)
Last time plan on A319, now just think on A321LR, too big for A321LR, for as A319MPA already enough
i think A319MPA (ACJ319 spec) more suitable as, more low cost for plant cost. A321LR maybe suitable for Euro country need patrol ocean.
too bad Airbus military said need 20 order only will start production line.  brows.gif
this one Yinchet also like ....
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Too expensive to my liking.
For now I prefer we get atr-72 mpa or c-27j stinger2 for esscom.
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jan 27 2015, 07:48 PM)
just read airbus helicopter 2015 sales target ....
they listed malaysia "possible" in EC725 batch 2 with 6~12 unit and Tiger helicopter.
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Under rmk wishlists so yeah possible sale.
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Saab Erieye have the highest chances to enter into the inventory. Aircraft most likely amb145
tudm very interested with it
anyway we also being offer 4 e2d + f18ash.

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jan 28 2015, 11:44 AM)
depend why type AEW getting....
like B737 MESA aew can patrol 9 hrs max.  so 1 day one AEW (or combine) 8 hrs on air patrol than ok already. (fuel cost need include too)
ideally 4 unit for peninsular, 4 unit for sabah/sarawak.
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If really wan long endurance patrol can opt for g650 aircrafts platform for Erieye.
though it might be expensive paying for development cost.
but it can fly 13hours with ease.
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After the latest incident where a drone crash inside the whitehouse compound so I think the russian concepts might actually work. laugh.gif



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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 29 2015, 11:04 AM)
our airforce love things in twin. twin engine and two seater , it like elephant in the room laugh.gif
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Our airforce prefer jets with good combat radius and decent weapons loads.
there is a reason y Boeing decide to develop cft for f18 ash.
Most of the single engine unable provides combat radius and weapons load the airforce want.
single seater is great for air superiority role.
wizzo come in handy provides all kind of support in differ missions.
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jan 29 2015, 11:20 AM)
Lol, I think it sooner for ROK Air Force to get F-35s than PAK-FA haha
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Force to buy rubbish jets. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jan 29 2015, 12:34 PM)
Probably no choice, big daddy already said buy F-35, have to buy F-35. laugh.gif
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The best they can do is delayed the procurement few years back.
buy small amount and wait f35 tech to be mature.
at the same time pray hard no war incoming. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jan 29 2015, 12:47 PM)
Hahaha this is the Korean peninsula we're talking about. brows.gif
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They still have their eagle to play around. laugh.gif

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