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post Jan 24 2015, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 24 2015, 10:06 PM)
time to add tis into our arsenal  brows.gif  brows.gif

was told.. it like budget alternative to Hellfire on attack heli and come with ground variant also laugh.gif

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yes, fully support of this, only 60% of hellfire price, if we get Tiger, good to replace Israel made spike-er missile. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 25 2015, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 24 2015, 11:40 PM)
those wheel spg are still very much manual labor

Tracked variant are almost automatic from entering rounds and placing propellants

I hope K9 could be selected for our SPG or at least take turkey T-155 tongue.gif
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both also too heavy loh ..... think more logic one .......
newest advance SPH model also automatic load rounds and placing propellants ....
depend how your budget .....
now need to think first wheeled or tracked SPH first+ weight -->than single or complete system sph -->than ammunition cost.
than overall cost.... adjustment ....
and than Mindef please not buy tower howitzer with manual man load round anymore.

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post Jan 25 2015, 09:42 PM

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A South Korean Vessel Shells To 1 People Were Injured, Failure Occurs When Shooting Training news center

According to local media reports, 21 afternoon local time, the south Korean navy high-speed missile attack boat (PKG), a 76 mm caliber naval gun exploded, leading to a soldier seriously wounded.
South Korea’s navy has 22 released the news and said that ships in the western south Korean waters offshore zhong qing south road, taian county of shooting training, then canceled the training for naval gun is in failure, in an explosion on his way home.
It is understood that the soldier was shot in the head, he had a serious accident, have life risk. The specific reason for the bomb explosion is under investigation.
In addition, exploding shells is made in Italy, South Korea for its improvement was carried out.
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U.S. Navy vessel stuck on coral reef off Okinawa

YOKOHAMA, Japan, Jan. 23 (UPI) -- A U.S. Navy container ship remained stuck on a coral reef near Okinawa for a second day Friday.
A total of 131 people, including 38 civilian crew members, 26 Marines and 67 soldiers, were still on board the USNS Sgt. Matej Kocak, officials said, with another ship on the scene if they need to be evacuated. The vessel was leaking but the amount of water coming in is "manageable," Lt. Charles Banks, a spokesman for the 7th Fleet, said.

The 821-foot vessel struck a reef or outcropping Thursday 6 miles off the coast of Okinawa. High tide that night did not free it.

Banks said experts were headed to the area to determine what must be done to get the ship off the reef. In one case in 2013 the USS Guardian had to be taken apart to remove it from a reef in the Philippines.

Banks said the divers had not discovered yet if any live coral was damaged when the ship struck.

"The safety of the civilian crew members and the environment are our top priorities. So we're taking this situation very seriously and will continue to investigate the situation until it's resolved," Cmdr. William Marks said Thursday.


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Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2015/01/23/.../#ixzz3PqRe4jHK

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post Jan 26 2015, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Jan 26 2015, 10:54 AM)
because Sepanggar have to face the might of China.
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went china Yongshu Airbase complete,
we will more relationship with china air force, they can easy fly sabah and penisular for exercise or visit
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post Jan 26 2015, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 26 2015, 11:25 AM)
If s300 can cover brunei airspace... i think they would be more than happy..

It obvious they are relying on us for defence help also.

It been hinted also several time also
Lumut still far away.. i more concern on our air force base at kelantan. Anyway military  operation obvious is to take our their air force base 1st.. no plane basically sky dominance for enemy.

Tat time even ship are sitting ducks
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at the end maybe will get LY-80 SAM defense system . brows.gif brows.gif

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post Jan 26 2015, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 26 2015, 11:40 AM)
Well.. i would say depends..

I managed to talk to some atm buddy.. they say they would like to avoid china stuff as much as possible.. any future confrontation sure would be china.. u nak pakai benda ya mereka buat?

Baik aku beli benda russia or murica biarpun mahal. Again that  their view lah... the one tat make final decision is always our gomen.. tat why if china no tender, atm would be very happy because compared  to other system china sure will offer the cheapest..

and tis alone will get the top political leader open eyes.. get cheapest can already.. good enough no need get expensive  one
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well no so enmity to china ....
Indo/Thailand also use china defense product .... our army also use FN-6
china product some is good and cheap. reduce cost procurement and operation cost
S-300 each set cost usd 500 milion with 16 missile. S-400 expected around usd 800 million per-set,
how much we can buy? what can do with 16-32 missile.
defense missile is burn money and consumption war, unless can keep big quantity like 100~200 pcs missile, if not no make different.
we do more relationship with china, which can help more to develop the country.

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post Jan 26 2015, 12:35 PM

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Yongshu island ( Fiery Cross reef) reclamation land complete soon, runway and base will start construction after CNY.
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post Jan 26 2015, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Jan 26 2015, 02:56 PM)
Multi-layered Air Defence
Long Range - Over 100km
Medium Range - 40-100km
Short Range - 10-30 km
Very Short range/Point defence - 5-10km

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post Jan 26 2015, 04:28 PM

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Germany’s defence minister criticises Airbus over new A400M delays

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/23/...N0KW21U20150123

prepare our A400 also will facing some issue.
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post Jan 26 2015, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(ledtechn @ Jan 26 2015, 04:31 PM)
nothing new here. airbus aircraft is known to have many issues. i dont know if this new a400m can service longer than our c130h.
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i means later in kopitian later will have fully of people comdam RMAF/Gov, "tak boleh terbang" topic haha biggrin.gif

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post Jan 26 2015, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jan 26 2015, 04:52 PM)
Nothing new, do you know when we inked the deal in 2005 the delivery date of our first A400M is suppose to be at 2013?
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post Jan 26 2015, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(OvenBaked @ Jan 26 2015, 06:53 PM)
Terbaik LTZ, LTZ for PM!
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LTZ also Vomiting to reply macai stupid mind set laugh.gif
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post Jan 26 2015, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jan 26 2015, 07:18 PM)
Macai like that la, anything gov do always wrong. Opposing for the sake of opposing, while contributing zero to actual governance.  vmad.gif
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very lucky here in lowyat forum ......
not sure u know or not other local forum (military section)
two pro and cons macai gaduh in forum sampai make "polisi" report ....
at than all pro macai leave forum ...

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post Jan 26 2015, 10:32 PM

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anyway thanks indo for so much budget,
create arm race in asean.
maybe good side effect to Mindaf for RMK11 budget,
malaysia RMK-11 got usd 10 billions already very good. hope fully get 12-15 billion
our land much small than indo. 12-15 billion will be fine.
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post Jan 26 2015, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 26 2015, 10:21 PM)
German one was not equip with paratrooping equipments because want to meet delivery date
Now, can only do cargo lifting

I not sure how ours going to be.. airbus notorious for having problem. I not sure why we are even buying more from them. Even our ec725 does not come problem free  shakehead.gif
If u want long range mobile missile defence.. only one name very synonymous in every arms market brows.gif  brows.gif 

The russian s-series missile defence system... s300 was so successful even russian didnt expect it. That why production just stop even though it a 80s design system. Murica still fear

what best, russian will sell it to anyone without restriction if you have the money laugh.gif
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our one more like also same.
production MSN07~014 only with version 1.0 spec means OIC spec,
from MSN 15 (first UK version) until no mention is 1.5 Spec ,
no news Airbus start production A400M version 2 spec.
our MSN022 still version 1.5 spec. late this year RMAF MSN 026-027 possible getting version 2 spec.
our one include refuel module should be also not active module yet.
all A400M expected getting version 3.0 spec which full capability spec estimated 2018.
all A400M delivery before version 3 will getting re-trofit/upgrade (include software upgrade) in 2018~2020.
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post Jan 26 2015, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 26 2015, 10:21 PM)
The russian s-series missile defence system... s300 was so successful even russian didnt expect it. That why production just stop even though it a 80s design system. Murica still fear

what best, russian will sell it to anyone without restriction if you have the money laugh.gif
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our sentiment,
for time being is hard to buy missile from Russia .....
"buy missile from country which missile kill our rakyat (Mh17) .or "buy missile to kill more plane (you know).... " i dont think gov want get this blame ohmy.gif

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post Jan 26 2015, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Jan 26 2015, 11:00 PM)
Thanks to Malaysia too....for making Indonesia wakes up from slumber  rolleyes.gif
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more like there economic/GDP getting improvement,
than budget for defense budget sure getting improve a lot.
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post Jan 27 2015, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jan 27 2015, 11:11 AM)
Will why not? Buk was already in short listed candidate for medium range system

It not confirm who shot down the aircraft. Both side have buk system placed within close proximity. The western media is blaming russia but so far produce no solid evidence.

The one they say is proved is a buk with one missle missing. But anyone also can take out a missle and claimed it been fired. One way to confirm is through satellite  photo during the lauch. But russia and america should have tat capacity but both are not revealing.
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do matter who is firing, at the end BUK missile still Russia product shot down jet.
malaysian/politis will be hoo ha about this to the end of time..... even more bullet to hoo ha with mh17 (alot touching) wink.gif

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 27 2015, 11:58 AM)
I think we might go for mica-vl.
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let wait and see how Mica-vl, since gowind also possible using it.
got news update on mou LY-80?


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